Scuttle or shaving bowl for use with large brushes

[Badgerhound]

I've been bowl lathering for the past few weeks (in place face latering, as I've been doing a lot of uberlathering) and have been using a smooth bowl.
Pics of various scuttles and ceramic shaving bowls look appealing due to the ridges, which I would assume be better than a smooth-sided bowl.

My main brushes are a Simpson Chubby 2 Best, Polo 8 Super 2-band and a Thater Plexi 4 (32mm knot, 58mm loft).

Is a scuttle like a Dirty Bird 1.5 or Georgetown G5 large enough for these brushes?

[brucered]

the DB 1.5 is big enough for ANY brush. not sure on the G5, as i don't own that one.

and yes, the lather ridges work wonders for making lather.

[Prof. Moriarty]

I can't answer from first hand experience, but the Dirty Bird 1.5 looks big enough from the measurements. Have you looked at this site by the way?
http://robertsfeatsofclay.com/cscuttles.html

He makes some nice scuttles from what I have seen (from the pictures people have posted on B&B)

[turtle]

G5 is a small scuttle.

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010455.jpg

[dpmtherrien]

The DB 1.5 is the best all around scuttle IMHO.

Any size brush will work well in it. :thumbup1:

[Badgerhound]

The fudge marble scuttle (robertsfeatsofclay) looks nice. Significantly less than the dirtybird, though I believe in getting what I pay for (how many times did I end up getting the more expensive xxxxxx
after first buying and being dissatisfied with the cheaper option).

Does anyone have pics of their robertsfeatsofclay scuttles? Hard to imagine what other colors look like.

[leonidas]

...i have a robert becker large scuttle........ see the photo in my profile........

......here is his site........ click on the 'CLICK HERE' and it will give you the full array of his color selections...

http://robertsfeatsofclay.com/cscuttles.html

[chrissss]

I use chubby 2 super 2 bands in DB 1.5 scuttle, easy ;)

[BenjamanBarker]

I have no problem using my 32mm knot, 58mm loft brushes in my G5 and it's not a space hog in the den!

[turtle]

Does anyone have pics of their robertsfeatsofclay scuttles? Hard to imagine what other colors look like.


I have no problem using my 32mm knot, 58mm loft brushes in my G5 and it's not a space hog in the den!

Here is a pic of the G5 and my 001 (large) Robert Becker.

The G5 is 3 1/2" across by 2 1/4" deep. Holds 3/4 cup of water
The Becker 001 (large) is 5 1/2" across by 2 1/2" deep. Holds 4 cups water
The world market is 3 1/8" across by 3 1/8" deep. Holds 3/4 cup water

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010454.jpg

[dieselfuel79]

G5 is a small scuttle.

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010455.jpg



Weird. I have this in Hamada (G5 as well) and just measured mine. It's 4 inches across in the same method that you measured, but the exact depth as your's. The website says the inner bowl is supposed to be 4.5 inches. In both cases mine and your's is significantly smaller than their specs on the website.

[turtle]

Weird. I have this in Hamada (G5 as well) and just measured mine. It's 4 inches across in the same method that you measured, but the exact depth as your's. The website says the inner bowl is supposed to be 4.5 inches. In both cases mine and your's is significantly smaller than their specs on the website.

I know... I was totally shocked to find that the one I got was almost a full inch narrower than what they said it was.

The Becker I have is too big at 5 1/2 across so thought I had it right with a G5 at 4 3/4. Was feeling like I found what I was looking for. But then it is UNDER 3 1/2

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/G5_2-4-2012.gif

SO....... I am still looking for a scuttle after buying several :cursing: :letterk1: :taz:

[BenjamanBarker]

I'll have to go home and mesure mine. Also remember there is the lip at the top of the opening. I wonder if the spec messurments are from the top or bottom of that lip?

[turtle]

I'll have to go home and mesure mine. Also remember there is the lip at the top of the opening. I wonder if the spec messurments are from the top or bottom of that lip?

I understand that these are hand made and not going to all be identical, but there should not be over an inch variation between them.

[BenjamanBarker]

I understand that these are hand made and not going to all be identical, but there should not be over an inch variation between them.

oh i agree over and inch seems WAY to much!

[brucered]

I understand that these are hand made and not going to all be identical, but there should not be over an inch variation between them.

almost looks like the dimensions of the Ambrose Brush Scuttle from GT

[dieselfuel79]

I think what we have here is a scuttle foul gentlemen.

[BenjamanBarker]

i just measured mine and as well it's give or take an 1" off so i sent them an email to see where they take the dimensions. will post what they have to say once i hear back

[brucered]

I think what we have here is a scuttle foul gentlemen.

my DB1.5 is a bit of an oddity as well. it's got the depth of the original and width of the 1.5 .....OR SO I THOUGHT!

when i 1st got it, i thought the ORIGINAL was 3.5" x 2" opening and the 1.5 was 4.5" x 3" opening....but now i see on the DB site, they are both 2" depth. was it always that way, as i could have sworn the DB original and DB 1.5 had different bowl depths

here are few shots of mine
218366218367

[ackvil]

My Robert Becker scuttle is perfect for making Uberlather. It is just the right size, IMO. 218370

[VerbaVolant]

I was just about to buy a G5 and... I think I will look somewhere else. I will not say what I think about this "handmade variation" excuse that always goes one way.
Thanks for posting.

[jwilock]

Weird. I have this in Hamada (G5 as well) and just measured mine. It's 4 inches across in the same method that you measured, but the exact depth as your's. The website says the inner bowl is supposed to be 4.5 inches. In both cases mine and your's is significantly smaller than their specs on the website.

Mine, given to me as a present this past xmas, is also just short of 4 inches across. Wait.

OK. Just went back and re-measured. Mine is not completely round. To make sure I measured across the diameter, the first time I measured I went from spout to handle. I just noticed as I'm writing this that the picture measures it at 90 degrees to the spot where I measured. So I did that measurement and it's a bit smaller. In other words it's ever so slightly oval shaped with it being just a wee bit bigger from spout to handle than in the other direction.

[turtle]

This is my 001 (large) Becker scuttle (with a tape in it)

It is big enough to handle the largest brush I own (H6 Harvard)

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010384.jpg

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010387.jpg

[http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/FS/P1010544.jpg

[BenjamanBarker]

Here is the email I just got from Georegtowne Pottery....

"Hello Jeff,

You are absolutely right. The inside bowl is 3 3/4" and the measurement on line is a typo. I will have our web guy fix it.

Lori"

So the web site was wrong and our scuttled are the correct size

[shanman]

my DB1.5 is a bit of an oddity as well. it's got the depth of the original and width of the 1.5 .....OR SO I THOUGHT!

when i 1st got it, i thought the ORIGINAL was 3.5" x 2" opening and the 1.5 was 4.5" x 3" opening....but now i see on the DB site, they are both 2" depth. was it always that way, as i could have sworn the DB original and DB 1.5 had different bowl depths

here are few shots of mine
218366218367

Your DB1.5 is an earlier one without the newer lather lip that she has now incorporated, maybe that is why your width numbers don't jive with current specs??

[dieselfuel79]

Here is the email I just got from Georegtowne Pottery....

"Hello Jeff,

You are absolutely right. The inside bowl is 3 3/4" and the measurement on line is a typo. I will have our web guy fix it.

Lori"

So the web site was wrong and our scuttled are the correct size

I have one concern with this. It's obviously misleading. If you're looking for a certain size based on the brush that you use, you end up buying based on what you find on the site. Then you get your item and it's even smaller that you thought. So, my scuttle is smidge bigger that the actual specs, and smaller than what I had hoped for. I was also moping earlier that the stopper in my G5 does not fit properly. Because of the inside part of the spout, and the angle in which it sit, the stopper will not fit/ stay in. As I shave, it actually just sits loose on top of the scuttle. I was trying my hardest to twist & push the stopper in, and it pops right back out. "I am a disappoint" as my Italian mother in law would say. Does it affect the performance? Not really. Does the stopper fly off the scuttle every shave? Yes.

[heybatter]

Here is the email I just got from Georegtowne Pottery....

"Hello Jeff,

You are absolutely right. The inside bowl is 3 3/4" and the measurement on line is a typo. I will have our web guy fix it.

Lori"

So the web site was wrong and our scuttled are the correct size

Nice work, thanks for coming back and posting. I have a G5 and I love it, use it practically every day.

[global_dev]

the scuttle i own is a large moss which i think is 3.5 (to 3.75 or so) and the large brushes just fit inside which is PERFECT for a face latherer as you don't have too much open surface and the knot will be kept nice and warm.. i don't really use it to make latherer, but it can be used to refresh a brush with some water and a twirl/pump or two.

[turtle]

I have one concern with this. It's obviously misleading. If you're looking for a certain size based on the brush that you use, you end up buying based on what you find on the site. Then you get your item and it's even smaller that you thought. So, my scuttle is smidge bigger that the actual specs, and smaller than what I had hoped for.

To say I am disappointed would be a gross understatement. I purchassed based on what I thought I would get. NOW I am still looking to spend money for something that was mis-described, mis-leading, erroneous (pick what ever you want but I call it B*!# S()!+)

My bad does not cut it when so many have been "hornswoggled (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hornswoggle)" I mean... come on... What are they selling.... snake oil?

One size fits all is not an appropriate measurement.



I was also moping earlier that the stopper in my G5 does not fit properly. Because of the inside part of the spout, and the angle in which it sit, the stopper will not fit/ stay in. As I shave, it actually just sits loose on top of the scuttle. I was trying my hardest to twist & push the stopper in, and it pops right back out. "I am a disappoint" as my Italian mother in law would say. Does it affect the performance? Not really. Does the stopper fly off the scuttle every shave? Yes.

I use a wine bottle cork and it works a LOT better than the rubber plug. Cork seems to stick and not want to "pop out" like a tapered rubber cork does.

If you do not have an endless supply of wine bottle corks (like us winos do) you can get a cork from a lab supply house.

http://www.lcmlab.com/Cork_s/133.htm

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010477.jpg

[shanman]

Those plastic flip down compression "corks" that are widely available work well here. No twisting.

[brucered]

the DB BILL BOWL also works with large brushes...see post HERE (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/266572-Shaving-Pottery-Reference-Thread-(Scuttles-Bowls-amp-Mugs)-ADD-YOUR-PIC!!!?p=3826459#post3826459), got delivered today

julie @ DB truly is an :a4:

it's my 2nd DB item and there is another on it's way next week.

[dieselfuel79]

You need to get that "baby bird" ™ as I have called it. I am tempted to get one but don't know if it will house the Colonel or 1250. Pics pics pics!

[brucered]

You need to get that "baby bird" ™ as I have called it. I am tempted to get one but don't know if it will house the Colonel or 1250. Pics pics pics!

the travel scuttle is en route to winnipeg next week. julie is tied up with a few "grandma duties" this week, as she said, but said it would be shipped early next week.

pics will follow with my brushes for you.