"Aggresive" category in reviews

[jimk2000]

I am not sure this is where this comment should be posted. In the review section one of the ratings is for "aggressiveness". 1 being the least aggressive and 10 being the most aggressive. However, I think this skews the rating because a less agressive razor is not necessarily a bad thing but will get a low score. Some people like me prefer a mild razor and has nothing to do with how the razor performs. But giving this category a low rating will reduce the overall score. What do you think?

[ratcheer]

I think you are right. Aggressiveness is not a positive or negative trait, it means different things to different people.

Very insightful! :thumbup1:

Tim

[Slant-Fan]

I think you are right. Aggressiveness is not a positive or negative trait, it means different things to different people.

Very insightful! :thumbup1:

Tim

+1

[Jim]

Excellent observation and I will bring it to the master of all things VB.

Thanks,

[mozart]

Likewise, the category "Scent" could be removed from the reviews on soaps, creams, lotions, etc, because scent is such an individual aspect that has little to do with the more objective attributes that are really important. Reviewers should still describe the scent, though, so that others can get an idea what it is. Best - MM

[ratcheer]

Likewise, the category "Scent" could be removed from the reviews on soaps, creams, lotions, etc, because scent is such an individual aspect that has little to do with the more objective attributes that are really important. Reviewers should still describe the scent, though, so that others can get an idea what it is. Best - MM

But, a rating on scent can be a +/- continuum, from 10 (I love it) to 0 (I hate it). It doesn't matter why you like it or dislike it, you can still assign a good or bad rating to it.

Tim

[joel]

Here's the thing.... the review forum, and the reviews are setup not to be a "1 second look at the overall %" but rather a way in which to look at averages, and a large group of individuals feelings/opinions on razors. Now, a higher % is not ALWAYS necessarily a good thing, case in point the aggressiveness. It is up to the reader to look at the %'s of each review, and or the overall %'s/#'s and read the topic title/category. For instance, when reading the review - if you read the catergory aggressiveness, you can weigh its importance based on how aggressive (or lack their of) you wish your razor to be, however I find one of the biggest questions, or rather the most discussed question RE: Razors is their level of aggressiveness. Unfortunatly, there is no way we can take the %'s off of the total in that category, without getting rid of the category all together, which I am not sure is the best of things to do, as to a certain extent, most fellas are looking for an aggressive razor, as they typically impart the best/closest shaves, and even the most aggressive razor, on the most sensitive skin can be successful if the end user takes the time (and potential pain :wink: ) to master the razor.

It certainly is a flaw, and there are a few others like that in the review system, but I'm not sure how we can remedy it, without greatly diminishing the quality and usefullness of the reviews.

I know when I am looking at a razor, the first thing I am interested in is its level of aggression.... leaving it up to the individual to merely write about in the review will not guarantee as much feedback (as it would with a required numerical response) nor would it allow individuals to quickly get the information they are looking for - without having to read through all the reviews/responses.

Again, if there is a way we can get around it, I am on board! :biggrin:

[scoopster]

I agree there is a flaw in averaging aggressiveness into the overall score. If you can fix it great. I generally don't ponder the the numeric rating the products are getting too much. I'm more interested what the reviewers actually said about the product, especially from the more prolific reviewers that I'm familiar with and have been in alignment with.

[TimmyBoston]

I'm fine with it, because I really don't look at the overall score as the definitive statement of what is being reviewed. You have to read the reviews and look at each individual score. Some people like very soft almost floppy brushes, other like them ramrod straight? So now should be remove the "stiffness" designation from the Shaving Brushes Review? Of course not.

The Reviews section is not perfect, nor is it possible to be, but if one reads the reviews they definately convey the proper message.

[SilkySmooth]

I think you are right. Aggressiveness is not a positive or negative trait, it means different things to different people.

Very insightful! :thumbup1:

Tim

+1
I think that's why I don't write more reviews.


==Tom

[guenron]

...SNIP...
I think that's why I don't write more reviews.


==Tom

I agree wholeheartedly Tom. If anyone wishes to really examine the review system, while the numbers are fun, they really are somewhat meaningless. Look at PRICE. High priced for something of good quality or excellent value is reasonable. Low priced for something of poor quality or ow value is ??? Your guess is as good as mine. I think the entire category of price could probably be best replaced with VALUE or some such measure of merit.

[Kyle]

I'm fine with it, because I really don't look at the overall score as the definitive statement of what is being reviewed. You have to read the reviews...

The Reviews section is not perfect, nor is it possible to be, but if one reads the reviews they definately convey the proper message.

Exactly. :thumbsup:

[SilkySmooth]

I always read the reviews, but I also look to see how each person rated the product. So it is of some value.


==Tom

[Doc4]

My brother used to be a devotee of Siskel and Ebert. At first, he just wanted to see the "thumb up" score ... then as he got older he was interested in whose thumb was up, since Siskel and Ebert had different tastes ... and at last he became interested in why each thumb was up or down.

Rating aggressiveness on a 1-10 scale is like rating hotness in chili sauces (not Hollywood starlets) because some people like hot, some like medium and some like mild, and so forth. But you need a good indication of where other people thing it fits on the scale. So that particular #score isn't the same as some others where we all mean "1 = sucks and 10 = super". It's still a useful number, you just need to know how to read it.

[TimmyBoston]

My brother used to be a devotee of Siskel and Ebert. At first, he just wanted to see the "thumb up" score ... then as he got older he was interested in whose thumb was up, since Siskel and Ebert had different tastes ... and at last he became interested in why each thumb was up or down.

Rating aggressiveness on a 1-10 scale is like rating hotness in chili sauces (not Hollywood starlets) because some people like hot, some like medium and some like mild, and so forth. But you need a good indication of where other people thing it fits on the scale. So that particular #score isn't the same as some others where we all mean "1 = sucks and 10 = super". It's still a useful number, you just need to know how to read it.

Very well put, Ian. :thumbup1:

The review system is not perfect, nor is it every capable of being, but if you read the reviews it is a remarkable feature of B&B and extremely helpful to new and old shavers alike.

[Jack Bauer]

I agree wholeheartedly Tom. If anyone wishes to really examine the review system, while the numbers are fun, they really are somewhat meaningless. Look at PRICE. High priced for something of good quality or excellent value is reasonable. Low priced for something of poor quality or ow value is ??? Your guess is as good as mine. I think the entire category of price could probably be best replaced with VALUE or some such measure of merit.

+1

[bjrn]

The numbers only say so much, and the total/average can be quite misleading. Besides the the "agressive" score in DE razors where different people can have different preferences, there's also it's the softness and stiffness of tips and density in brushes, where you might want different things as well.