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Magnaminous_G
12-29-2011, 12:55 AM
How do you make slick, goopy, yoghurty lather?

I use a shaving bowl to make lather, and I use TOBS Lavender cream. I like my lather alright, and it's not a problem area of my shave... but I think I would like to try the goopy, runny, slick lather I've seen in some peoples' videos and pictures.

Problem is, I can't make it. if I use less water, I just get thicker, denser lather. If I use more water, I just get foamier, airier lather. It's never thick and runny. Is it something to do with my product (TOBS cream)? My brush (Vulfix 2234 - big, moderately "floppy" brush)? Is there a technique to it?

Thanks,

Mag

TheVez2
12-29-2011, 01:04 AM
I'm no expert at getting that kind of lather either, but I'm pretty sure people who get than kind of lather and not stingy on the amount of product they use. More product, more water, and a good couple minutes or more of swirling to prioduce that kind of lather.

rajagra
12-29-2011, 01:15 AM
Try adding water very slowly - a few drops at a time - after making your normal lather.
Also use a slower, stirring motion rather than whipping like crazy.

Gref
12-29-2011, 01:35 AM
sometimes you have to go at it for a while to get the desired lather. it takes me a few minutes to work up a respectable lather in a bowl, much long than what other people may claim.

Arthur
12-29-2011, 02:00 AM
I like the "yogurt-lather" a lot. For me, I just start off with more water than you might usually. It starts off looking thin and bubbly but as the bubbles work their way out it thickens up just a bit and leaves me with a super-slick, slightly cushiony, creamy lather.

Comet
12-29-2011, 02:01 AM
Try a few strokes on a bar of glycerine soap before you hit the cream. Then lather vigorously for a couple of minutes.

TheVez2
12-29-2011, 02:11 AM
Mag,

Look at the thread below, post #2, Look at the pics for Vitos Red Extra Super. In the second picture, look at how much water he is starting with. That's much more than I use, and that is a lot more lather than waht I get, probably close to what you are looking for.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/265242-Lather-snobs-unite!

Magnaminous_G
12-29-2011, 04:28 AM
Got it. More water, added slowly by a few drops at a time, more product, slower mixing. I'll try it tonight! And yes, that "lather snob" thread is excellent. Thank you for sharing; I read with great interest. :001_tt1:

kingfisher
12-29-2011, 06:14 AM
Try adding water very slowly - a few drops at a time - after making your normal lather.
Also use a slower, stirring motion rather than whipping like crazy.
+1. Adding water should not make your lather airy unless you either added too much or whipped it too aggressively. Imagine that you want to "incorporate" the small additions of water into the lather rather than beat them into submission.

takeshi
12-29-2011, 06:25 AM
Is there a technique to it?

I don't use creams much but more product, gradually add water and don't whip it. Try face lathering. I find it much easier to tweak the lather precisely.

turtle
12-29-2011, 06:44 AM
Read and follow Uberlather in the wiki:

http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/Uberlather

I get enough lather to shave 4 grown men using this method.

The lather has more volume, is thicker, and smoother than any single product available

You still need to have the proper ratio of product and water but the results are easier to achieve

Once you Uber you will never go back to using just (insert anything here)

Go West Young Man
12-29-2011, 07:54 AM
Double the amount of product you start out with....

pdillon
12-29-2011, 12:58 PM
Look at the thread below, post #2, Look at the pics for Vitos Red Extra Super. In the second picture, look at how much water he is starting with. That's much more than I use, and that is a lot more lather than waht I get, probably close to what you are looking for.

I saw that picture posted in Marco's Cella lathering thread (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/199887-My-lathering-technique-with-Italian-soft-soaps/page13). I was blown away. I'm a long way off from that kind of lather.

I too was struck by the amount of water used. Is that water poured off the top of the soap? It looks soapy. I have never tried starting with that great of an amount of water in my bowl.

Must keep practicing!

D.Jackson
12-29-2011, 04:03 PM
I made my first true uberlather the other morning. Proraso white soap, omega cream, and about 3-4 drops of glycerine. I kept adding water in small amounts while mixing. I kept adding more water because I wanted to see how far I could go with it. I probably added 2-3 times the amount of water I would normally use when face lathering. I ended up with a whole bowl full of really slippery goopy lather. I mean this stuff was the slickest creamy stuff I've ever experienced. So yeah, try the uber lather instructions. That will get you what your looking for.

EL Alamein
12-29-2011, 04:37 PM
Remove the variable of water hardness by using distilled water. Water quality has a huge effect on lather. From there follow the advice given to add the water slowly. Your choice of brush and cream are top notch and should have no problems creating the kind of lather you desire. Good luck.

Chris

cxg231
12-29-2011, 08:01 PM
I unintentionally got "yoghurt lather" the last two times I shaved. Mama Bear soap (which contains a fair amount of glycerin) and apparently I was working the brush a bit too slowly according to the "how-to lather" videos on youtube. I had a respectable lather for the first two passes, and between the second and third pass the lather had turned to "yoghurt", I bet I couldn't do it again if I tried! :wink1: