Has there been a New Jersey Get Together?

[dannymayo]

I did a search and didn't see anything resulting in NJ get togethers. I know there have been a bunch of NYC meetups and North Jersey is basically the 6th borough but I'd love to see a NJ meetup. Any interest in a meeting? Anyone interested from the surrounding areas; PA, NY, DE ?

[Rudy Vey]

I did a search and didn't see anything resulting in NJ get togethers. I know there have been a bunch of NYC meetups and North Jersey is basically the 6th borough but I'd love to see a NJ meetup. Any interest in a meeting? Anyone interested from the surrounding areas; PA, NY, DE ?

We had a couple meets at Rutt's Hut last year. And when Scott was visiting from Kansas, we met here in South Plainfield in August. If you want to organize something, please go ahead. There are a number of NJ guys here on B&B.

[DaveNJ74]

I was just recently thinking of that. We can have a meeting down the shore. It should be nice now that summer is over, Tiki Bar or something like that inside.

[brianw]

Meetup......did I hear Meetup ????

[BigFoot]

How much is this one going to cost me?

[pianoboy]

I'm in Central NJ - would love to go to a NJ meetup if possible!

[dannymayo]

I'm glad to hear about the interest, I was thinking about a NJ meetup for a while. I'm going to gauge interest in the next week or so. I was thinking about Rutt's too but I think I'll look into a different venue since it's been done. I try to get to Rutt's Hut every two weeks or so, 2 rippers, cremated fries with gravy, and a miller high life.

[dpm802]

There are a bunch of us in SOUTH Jersey that would like to attend. Let's look for a location that's easy for all Garden Staters to get to.

Atlantic City might be a good spot, especially off-season. Trenton area would work, too. Princeton is about an hour's drive for me, but has a lot of classy venues that would host an event like this in grand style.

[DaveNJ74]

There are a bunch of us in SOUTH Jersey that would like to attend. Let's look for a location that's easy for all Garden Staters to get to.

Atlantic City might be a good spot, especially off-season. Trenton area would work, too. Princeton is about an hour's drive for me, but has a lot of classy venues that would host an event like this in grand style.

Princeton wouldnt be a bad spot. Its pretty much central NJ and easy to get to from all over.

[craig87c]

There might even be an NYC guy or two that would be interested on going!

[Jim]

I propose Star Tavern in Orange! Or Martinos.

[dpm802]

I-195 roughly bi-sects the state ... perhaps we should look around there to find a site. That's assuming we have equal numbers coming from North and South. We should take a casual head count.

Of all the suggestions so far, I like Princeton best. Let's try and schedule it for a time when "A Little Taste of Cuba" (http://www.cubacigar.com/) is open, so some of us can kill two birds with one stone on this trip.

[DaveNJ74]

I-195 roughly bi-sects the state ... perhaps we should look around there to find a site. That's assuming we have equal numbers coming from North and South. We should take a casual head count.

Of all the suggestions so far, I like Princeton best. Let's try and schedule it for a time when "A Little Taste of Cuba" (http://www.cubacigar.com/) is open, so some of us can kill two birds with one stone on this trip.

Princeton is fine with me, its off of 195, US 1, 95 and the rest.

[Jim]

Could Little Cuba host us?

[alex2363]

I did a search and didn't see anything resulting in NJ get togethers. I know there have been a bunch of NYC meetups and North Jersey is basically the 6th borough but I'd love to see a NJ meetup. Any interest in a meeting? Anyone interested from the surrounding areas; PA, NY, DE ?
I would.....

We had a couple meets at Rutt's Hut last year. And when Scott was visiting from Kansas, we met here in South Plainfield in August. If you want to organize something, please go ahead. There are a number of NJ guys here on B&B.
Including me:wink2:

I was just recently thinking of that. We can have a meeting down the shore. It should be nice now that summer is over, Tiki Bar or something like that inside.that sounds cool.


Meetup......did I hear Meetup ????:001_tt1:


I'm in Central NJ - would love to go to a NJ meetup if possible!


I'm glad to hear about the interest, I was thinking about a NJ meetup for a while. I'm going to gauge interest in the next week or so. I was thinking about Rutt's too but I think I'll look into a different venue since it's been done. I try to get to Rutt's Hut every two weeks or so, 2 rippers, cremated fries with gravy, and a miller high life.I'm in.....


There are a bunch of us in SOUTH Jersey that would like to attend. Let's look for a location that's easy for all Garden Staters to get to.

Atlantic City might be a good spot, especially off-season. Trenton area would work, too. Princeton is about an hour's drive for me, but has a lot of classy venues that would host an event like this in grand style.I vote for Atlantic city too...


Princeton wouldnt be a bad spot. Its pretty much central NJ and easy to get to from all over.A.C may be more known, I think.


I propose Star Tavern in Orange! Or Martinos.Martinos? in South Jersey?


I-195 roughly bi-sects the state ... perhaps we should look around there to find a site. That's assuming we have equal numbers coming from North and South. We should take a casual head count.

Of all the suggestions so far, I like Princeton best. Let's try and schedule it for a time when "A Little Taste of Cuba" (http://www.cubacigar.com/) is open, so some of us can kill two birds with one stone on this trip.Little Cuba in Atlatic City sounds good.


Could Little Cuba host us?Sure why not. I go there to club out all the time.:wink2:

[dpm802]

Little Cuba in Atlatic City sounds good.A Little Taste of Cuba (http://www.surfcanyon.com/search?f=sl&q=A%20Little%20Taste%20of%20Cuba&partner=afa) is in PRINCETON, not Atlantic City. They have a second location in New Hope, PA.

Looking at a map, Atlantic City seems a lot farther south than I thought it was. Still, it would be easily accessible to anyone coming from anywhere in the state.

I still like Princeton. It is more centrally located, and if members want to come in from NE PA it would be easier to reach than AC.

[dpm802]

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/images/styles/UndergroundStyle/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jim http://badgerandblade.com/vb/images/styles/UndergroundStyle/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?p=3490265#post3490265) Could Little Cuba host us?



I don't know if you ever been there, but A Little Taste of Cuba is one of the finest cigar stores I've ever been to. While I haven't been there in 10 years or more, I doubt its changed much.

It has a small seating area for smokers. Perhaps a half-dozen overstuffed lounge chairs.

I don't think it would be a good place for us shave-geeks to meet to talk about shaving. Its too small to host more than 2 or 3 of us at a time, and its focus is on tobacco, not soaps and creams and blades and brushes.

I just wanted to have a little side-trip there to pick up some cigars either before or after our gathering.

There are numerous restaurants, bistros, eateries, etc. in the immediate area, along with upscale shopping for other interests such as clothes, books, home furnishings, kitchen gadgets, etc.

No matter where we meet, the side-trips are secondary. But whenever I think of Princeton, the Cuba store immediately comes to mind.

[dannymayo]

Princeton seems like a good location, centrally located. Atlantic city seems far for the northern crowd, close to 3 hours. Rutt's seems a far for the southern crowd although I LOVE RUTT'S HUT. I enjoy a good cigar so a side trip to Little Cuba sounds like fun, I'll bring some cigars to pass around.

We still need a date. Does a weekend in November sound good?

[Rudy Vey]

Princeton seems like a good location, centrally located. Atlantic city seems far for the northern crowd, close to 3 hours. Rutt's seems a far for the southern crowd although I LOVE RUTT'S HUT. I enjoy a good cigar so a side trip to Little Cuba sounds like fun, I'll bring some cigars to pass around.

We still need a date. Does a weekend in November sound good?

Princeton sounds good to me, an early November Saturday or Sunday would work for me.

[DaveNJ74]

Sounds good to me.

[dpm802]

Here is a link to the Zagat page for Downtown Princeton ... they list 46 restaurants that may fit our needs.

http://www.zagat.com/search?text=&where%5Bname%5D=princeton%2C+nj&where%5Bid%5D=&where%5Blat%5D=40.3487181&where%5Blon%5D=-74.6590472&where%5Blocale%5D=New+Jersey&where%5Bradius%5D=0#/?s=open&yp=1&where%5Bname%5D=princeton%2C+nj&where%5Blat%5D=40.3487181&where%5Blocale%5D=New+Jersey&where%5Blon%5D=-74.6590472&pp=10&where%5Bradius%5D=0.4&o%5Bd%5D=fri&o%5Bh%5D=20&sort=location

Each of these locations should be within easy walking distance of "A Little Taste of Cuba" at 70 Witherspoon Street.

I also sent this to my brother, who lived there for many years, and knows the area as a local. I'll see if he has any recommendations on one place or another, and pass along whatever he comes up with.

[dannymayo]

I just looked through the Zagat page, thanks. The steak/seafood place and Triumph Brewing looked good. I almost booked my engagement party at Triumph a few years ago but decided on something closer. I like Indian but many don't, just trying to find out what will work for everyone. Is there any cuisine that anyone isn't fond of?

I'm starting to get excited.

[dpm802]

I just looked through the Zagat page, thanks. The steak/seafood place and Triumph Brewing looked good. I almost booked my engagement party at Triumph a few years ago but decided on something closer. I like Indian but many don't, just trying to find out what will work for everyone. Is there any cuisine that anyone isn't fond of?

I'm starting to get excited.I'm getting excited, too.

I looked at the Triumph page, and I'm glad to see they have Private Rooms available ... I'm not sure if we'll need one, but it would be nice for us to hold our swap-meet/get-together in a place where our shave-geekiness won't disturb other patrons, and vice-versa.

I'll eat just about any type of cuisine. Indian is something I don't get very often, so that might be nice. I'm a big fan of Sushi and other Japanese food, but find it too expensive to enjoy more than once a year or so. Then again, since this is going to be a special occasion, I'm not going to be too concerned about the budget, so if we pick a place that is a tad on the pricey side, I think I can cope with it.

[dpm802]

How many people are we expecting to attend?

I see 9 members so far that have expressed interest and are in range. I know there are more members that will jump in once the word gets out and the details are settled upon.

dpm802
dannymayo
Jim
RudyVey
brianW
DaveNJ74
pianoboy
alex2363
craigh87c

Did I miss anyone on the list? If so, copy and paste and add yourself in a new post.

[Rudy Vey]

How many people are we expecting to attend?

I see 9 members so far that have expressed interest and are in range. I know there are more members that will jump in once the word gets out and the details are settled upon.

dpm802
dannymayo
Jim
RudyVey
brianW
DaveNJ74
pianoboy
alex2363
craigh87c

Did I miss anyone on the list? If so, copy and paste and add yourself in a new post.

I think you can also add:
Dunedinranger
NJPaddy

[dpm802]

So here's what my brother suggested ...
Winberie J B Restaurant & Bar
Yankee Doodle Tap Room
Triumph Brewing Co.
Mediterra
Witherspoon Grill

Those would all be good. They are all a 3 minute or less walk from Little Cuba.

[dpm802]

dpm802
dannymayo
Jim
RudyVey
brianW
DaveNJ74
pianoboy
alex2363
craigh87c
DunEdinRanger
NJPaddy

List updated ... thanks, Rudy.

rmrdaddy is somewhere in SNJ, I'm not sure he even knows this thread is going on. Then there's that guy that runs Shave-a-Buck somewhere down the Jersey Shore, I think. More Garden Staters will be crawling out of the woodwork as the word gets out.

[Rudy Vey]

dpm802
dannymayo
Jim
RudyVey
brianW
DaveNJ74
pianoboy
alex2363
craigh87c
DunEdinRanger
NJPaddy

List updated ... thanks, Rudy.

rmrdaddy is somewhere in SNJ, I'm not sure he even knows this thread is going on. Then there's that guy that runs Shave-a-Buck somewhere down the Jersey Shore, I think. More Garden Staters will be crawling out of the woodwork as the word gets out.

The "guy" that runs Shave-a-buck, is "gman41098 here" - can be found in the vendor section. Send him a pm...

[Shave A Buck]

Atlantic City is directly accross from Cherry Hill and Philly if anyone is uncertain, mile 38 on the Parkway, a bit too south to be fair to all. Princeton is just about dead center and with the downtown should be the setting you seek. If things mesh with work count me in.

[dpm802]

OK, so everyone seems to agree that Princeton has the right geography for us ... now we need to decide on a date and a place to eat.

I think that holding it on a Sunday might be better to get more people out. Also, I think that Sunday would mean less crowds at whatever establishment we decide on. (A Little Taste of Cuba is open 12pm~4pm on Sundays.)

My brother's suggestions come from the perspective of a local, but we're by no means bound to just these five restaurants.

Winberie J B Restaurant & Bar
Yankee Doodle Tap Room
Triumph Brewing Co.
Mediterra
Witherspoon Grill

Those would all be good. They are all a 3 minute or less walk from Little Cuba.


Anybody have any preferences for dates and/or places?

[Shave A Buck]

Is'nt Sunday a Football day here in America. What do you think the crowds will be like in a bar and how many guys will miss a game they want to see. Sunday works for me as I am not that big a football fan that I can't miss a day on the couch but the crowds in a bar might be a little heavier than you think.

[dannymayo]

^^^^^^^ I was thinking the same thing, Saturday during the day would be good. Sundays by me, the bars are usually busier do to Football.

[dpm802]

I never thought about Sunday football ... but you're right.

I work on Saturday, but I can put in a vacation day with enough advance notice.

[onefallinghope]

this is interesting. Never done a shave GTG (plenty of car GTG's, Im a VW guy) It's a bit of a haul for me being in eastern CT (princeton is a little over 3.5 hrs for me) but I may actually come out for this - I havent seen or heard of any GTG's near my area.

[dpm802]

this is interesting. Never done a shave GTG (plenty of car GTG's, Im a VW guy) It's a bit of a haul for me being in eastern CT (princeton is a little over 3.5 hrs for me) but I may actually come out for this - I havent seen or heard of any GTG's near my area.There have been a few GTGs in the NYC area, as well as Northern NJ.

This one is centered on Princeton to make it accessible to ALL New Jersey wet-shavers, as well as those in Philadelphia and NYC areas.

As a CT resident, you're more than welcome to attend. In fact, if we had someone show up from Australia or South Africa or Europe, we'll let them in, too.

A 3.5 hour drive is more than I'd put in to go to a meet-up like this, but its up to you. Suggest you look into public transport like AmTrak, or maybe car-pooling with some of the guys coming from NYC.

And/Or you could put together your own GTG in Eastern CT ... you could draw in people from NYC to Boston and beyond. There used to be a Google Map which showed the location of all members that chose to be listed. I'm not sure what happened to that map, it seems to have fallen by the way-side during the recent forum software upgrade.

[Mslatfly]

Hi Folks,
I'm new to the forum, but am an old NJ guy now living in Western MD. I'd be interested in coming, but a Sunday would be hard for me, unless I take off Monday. But don't base your decisions on me.

[DaveNJ74]

I just sent gman41098 a PM, dont know if anyone did yet.

[dpm802]

Hi Folks,
I'm new to the forum, but am an old NJ guy now living in Western MD. I'd be interested in coming, but a Sunday would be hard for me, unless I take off Monday. But don't base your decisions on me.I'm an old Maryland guy (Native Balti-Moron) now living in NJ, because that's where my job is. I'd love to move back to Charm City, but that will have to wait until I retire in 2014.

If I were in your location, a drive to Princeton would be too far for me ... but if you decide to come, you're more than welcome to join us.

[steelwindmachine]

a NJ meet, awesome! :P

I'm in Eatontown (Monmouth County) and think it'd be cool to meet some fellow members. Unfortunately, I'm booked every weekend until after Thanksgiving. Either way, maybe there are some people within the few counties that might be interested in a local county-ish meeting?

Who's starting the Tri-State League of Gentlemanly Pursuits Association? ;)

[dannymayo]

I was thinking the second Saturday in November, the 12th would be good. I figure the 12th leaves the weekends before and after Thanksgiving open in case anyone has family or friends around for the holiday weekends. How about it?

[dpm802]

I was thinking the second Saturday in November, the 12th would be good. I figure the 12th leaves the weekends before and after Thanksgiving open in case anyone has family or friends around for the holiday weekends. How about it?Sounds good to me. That gives us a little over a month to coordinate all the other details. I was thinking the last weekend in October or the first in November, but that may be rushing it a bit.

We still need to pick a place. Maybe we need to make a reservation, if we want to get a room to ourselves. (Triumph, for one, has private rooms available, but I doubt we'd be able to get one on a walk-in basis.)

And we need to spread the word. I've sent out a few PMs to other NJers that haven't seen this thread, but haven't heard back yet.

[steelwindmachine]

anyone else from Monmouth, Middlesex or Ocean counties? I don't think I'll be able to make it on a Saturday until December.

[juban62]

I'm in North Jersey. This sounds great. Princeton would work for me, but I vote for Star Tavern =)

[dannymayo]

Still waiting on some feedback on November 12th. Once we agree on a date we can book a place and that's it! I was in Princeton this weekend checking out the art museum, nice area.

[Shave A Buck]

I'm from Brick..exit 98 on the Monmouth border.

I will count on the 12th being the date. I will check my work and let you know. Either way I will send some items over I'm sure Rudy would not mind helping.

[steelwindmachine]

Hey Joe,

I work in Lakewood and frequent Brick.

[dpm802]

I'll endorse the 12 Nov date ... should we set the time around 12noon?

Still need to pick a place ... Triumph has been brought up by several members, plus we can get a room to ourselves if we want one.

[DaveNJ74]

Bumping the thread for NJ members

[ouch]

There's a NJ get together almost every day. Usually it just involves me.

[DaveNJ74]

there's a nj get together almost every day. Usually it just involves me.

lol....

[juban62]

Hi guys,
I tried to go to the group page and start a NJ group, but apparently, I don't have enough seniority here to do so. I was gonna call it 'Double Edged New Jersey'. If some of you think it might be a good idea, perhaps we could start one. Jeez- Oz and Cali are showing us up!!

[craig87c]

There's a NJ get together almost every day. Usually it just involves me.

They don't tend to let many visitors into the padded rooms :laugh:

[dpm802]

Hi guys,
I tried to go to the group page and start a NJ group, but apparently, I don't have enough seniority here to do so. I was gonna call it 'Double Edged New Jersey'. If some of you think it might be a good idea, perhaps we could start one. Jeez- Oz and Cali are showing us up!!

We used to have a group called Garden State Shavers, but it was deleted by the Mod when it went dormant for too long.

Somebody can start another one ... I'm not sure how to do it.

[dpm802]

I just tried a dry run at booking a reservation at Triumph ... using their on-line "Open-Table" interface ... there are NO tables available to accomodate a party of our size in the next 8 weeks.

I used the date of Saturday, 12 November, and tried various time-slots between 12:00 and 15:00 ... the system has a built-in window that will look 2.5 hours before and after your requested time, as well.

I tried to guess at the number that would actually show up. I started with 18, lowered it to 11, finally plugged in a value of 9 ... all were unavailable.

Of course, this is just my first attempt, but we should be thinking about this while discussing logistics of the meet ... a direct phone-call or trying a different restaurant or day of the week might yield better results, but I don't have the time to plug in all the variables.

And let's not even think we're going to get a table in Princeton on a Saturday for a group our size on a walk-in basis. We need to call ahead first and get reservations.

I'm not sure how other group meets solved this, but we need to be sure that if we decide on a time, the place is going to be available to us as well.

[juban62]

I will try to call them later to see if phone results are any better- Saturday November 12th @12pm. I will post results later.

[Rudy Vey]

Alternatively, we always could meet in the City as well. There are some nice shops to go to:
Cambridge Chemists and two Pasteur locations - they carry a lot of shaving stuff.
Then there is also Art Browns.....pens, inks, paper.

[Jim]

Alternatively, we always could meet in the City as well. There are some nice shops to go to:
Cambridge Chemists and two Pasteur locations - they carry a lot of shaving stuff.
Then there is also Art Browns.....pens, inks, paper.

And Haggis!

[juban62]

I called and left a message for the booking manager this pm. At this point, I expect I would be hearing from him tomorrow.

[dannymayo]

I definitely want to make this a proper "Jersey Get-Together". I like the city a lot but if we can't get something for our size group in Princeton I'd still like to keep it in New Jersey. I'm going to look at some places in/around Princeton again to see what else may work.

Cheers,

[dpm802]

I definitely want to make this a proper "Jersey Get-Together". I like the city a lot but if we can't get something for our size group in Princeton I'd still like to keep it in New Jersey. I'm going to look at some places in/around Princeton again to see what else may work.

Cheers,We may need to change our strategy and work this backwards ... pick a day of the week (Saturday) and a time in the early afternoon, then choose a restaurant, and call to make a reservation. The restaurant can easily tell us what is the first date available, even if its a couple of months in advance.

[brianw]

A little bit further north.... Martino's in Somerville... Best Cuban food in Jersey....BYOB tho

[Rudy Vey]

A little bit further north.... Martino's in Somerville... Best Cuban food in Jersey....BYOB tho

Brian, what a great idea!!! Still in NJ, in the center of the state, perfect place to meet!!

[dpm802]

A little bit further north.... Martino's in Somerville... Best Cuban food in Jersey....BYOB tho

Sounds like a good alternate suggestion.

well ..., I had been wanting to get in "A Little Taste of Cuba" while we meet. It never occurred to me that Cuban food was a way to do it.

I hope they have a smoking section out on the patio or something ... it would be a shame if those of us that love The Brown Leaf can't follow a good meal (of any type) without a good smoke. I just stocked up on Chateau Fuente and Macanudo Court, so I'm down for whatever.

I'll have to google Martino's and set my GPS to talk me in. No biggie.

[Jim]

Martino's is great! They make an excellent Ox tail.

[dpm802]

While we're still working out the logistics ... is anybody bringing along any shave gear for Show and Tell or Swap and Trade?

I may be bringing a NIB bottle of Bigelow #1200 ASB that is looking for a new home.

[brianw]

I'll bring a few thing as well as some Fountain Pens !!!!

[juban62]

Hi all-
I heard back from the Marketing Mgr. at Triumph. He indicated they would have no trouble allocating space for us and accomodating a party of @20. It would not be a private room, but it would be a space in the main room where we would have plenty of room all together. BUT- I happen to think the Somerville Cuban food suggestion is fabulous and am voting for that idea, actually. Will that still be a mid-day gathering on the 12th?
I will be bringing some DE's along I need help in ID'ing, as well as some for sale/trade... I'll come up with a list well before we meet.

[dpm802]

I'll endorse the Cuban food @ Martino's in Somerville ... those of us that are interested can stop by the Cigar store in Princeton either before or after.

[dannymayo]

Martino's looks great, I'm all about some delicious pork! It's still centrally located which should work. It seems a few of us have been there, will they be able to accomodate us? How's the parking? The parking around Triumph can be a hassle.

Yes, I'll be bringing a few things to swap/PIF.

[craig87c]

I should still be able to make it as long as I can figure out how to get there using public transportation.

Oh, and I'll certainly be bringing things to share!

[Jim]

Inky- if I can go you have a ride.

[onefallinghope]

I'm still trying to decide if I should drive from CT. Maybe I can try to put one together in my area?

Off topic, Jim.. who is that in your profile picture; I see that several members have the same photo currently - but I don't know who it is.

[craig87c]

Reason #691942 why B&B is awesome. Thanks Jim!

[Rudy Vey]

I'm still trying to decide if I should drive from CT. Maybe I can try to put one together in my area?

Off topic, Jim.. who is that in your profile picture; I see that several members have the same photo currently - but I don't know who it is.

This is Sue Moore, the woman we are honoring right now with a huge auction in her name to raise funds for the Susan G Komen foundation. Sue was a great woman and a good friend!

[Rudy Vey]

Reason #691942 why B&B is awesome. Thanks Jim!

If Jim cannot take you, you can take a train into Somerville, Metuchen or Fanwood and I can pick you up.

[pianoboy]

Blast it, I'm going to have to be away on 11/12. Have a great time. fellas.

[brianw]

Any straight shavers coming ??

[Shave A Buck]

What's the final plan with this
..where and when
.

[Shave A Buck]

Cricket ....cricket...Hello...

[Rudy Vey]

Cricket ....cricket...Hello...

I think it is Martino's in Somerville on the 12th, but I have no idea what time.

[Shave A Buck]

Should we appoint someone to be in charge or let many cooks spoil the soup.

[dpm802]

Should we appoint someone to be in charge or let many cooks spoil the soup.Up until now, we've been doing OK with allowing different people to take initiative and act on their own ... I'm OK with keeping it that way, but if things change and we want a Head Honcho to pull together all the logistics, that's fine with me.

Just to re-cap what (I think) we've decided on so far ...

Martino's in Somerville, NJ
Saturday, Nov 12 ... exact time is still open.
Approximate attendance will be about a dozen of us.
Most people will be bringing something for Show&Tell.
A side trip to a Cigar Store, either before or after.

I already have the date approved for vacation from work ... so it will be hard to re-arrange my schedule if the date changes. I agree with whoever said that we should try and get this in well before Thanksgiving, because if we don't do it by then, everyone will be much too busy until after the holidays. (I myself won't be available from Black Friday through first week in February. I'm in the retail industry, and first we have the Xmas season, and then annual inventory following that.)

[Shave A Buck]

So then who's going to make the call if no one is in charge or makes a decision. How much longer are you O.K with this then, until the 11th?

[Rudy Vey]

OK, who is all coming??
What time??
Here is Martino's information:
Martino's Cuban Restaurant
212 W Main Street, Somerville, NJ 08876
Phone: (908) 722 8602

Open Saturdays from 11 am to 10 pm

They have an extra room for up to 35 people.

[Shave A Buck]

Im off, finishing up midnights at 7am that day so I will come but may not stay too late depending on what kind of nap I can get in before hand.

Now what is the time.

[Rudy Vey]

Im off, finishing up midnights at 7am that day so I will come but may not stay too late depending on what kind of nap I can get in before hand.

Now what is the time.

I would propose 3 pm, and I hope the others will chime in. I am open for any time, but not too late.

[dannymayo]

I was away all weekend, just got in. I'm off tomorrow so I'll give them a call.

[dannymayo]

Scratch the above comment, they're closed Monday. I just called, Martinos said 2 pm would be an ideal time. I asked if they could make the a reservation for about 15 people and they said they'd list the reservation for 20 for now. I told them I'd call them about a week before with a more exact number.

NJ B&B get-Together
Martinos in Somerville, BYOB
2:00 pm

How does this jive with the everyone?

[Jim]

Sounds promising, will get it on the calender.

[dpm802]

NJ B&B get-Together
Martinos in Somerville, BYOB
2:00 pm

How does this jive with the everyone?sounds like all the logistics are done and settled, right? No more details to work out.

I'm in.

[juban62]

Sounds great!
I'll be there.

[Shave A Buck]

2pm it is....see you there....should we have some name tags with our names and board names perhaps if the crowd gets larger.

[DaveNJ74]

BYOB... Bring your own brush...

[DaveNJ74]

I can do pickups at Edison, Metuchen and MetroPark if anyone needs a lift.

[dannymayo]

I'm in North Jersey, Bloomfield/Montclair area if someone needs transport to Somerville.

[DunEdinRanger]

If you guys are going to a Cuban restaurant you'll need to know how to order things in Cuban

Examples.

English - I'd like a coffee, Miss. Spanish - Un cafesito con siete azucars mi bonbonsita.
English - The special looks amazing! Spanish - Coño! El especial es tremendo!
English - I do believe the chef made this a tad too spicy! Spanish - Coño! Se le fue la mano en el picante al cocinero
English - I just need a few more minutes to order. Spanish - No me jodas tanto, Coño! Necesito unos minutos mas.

So yes, I will be there.

[craig87c]

How to order from a Cuban restaurant:

1. Point at what you want on the menu
2. "Hey Lou, order this for me, will ya?"

[brianw]

How to order from a Cuban restaurant:

1. Point at what you want on the menu
2. "Hey Lou, order this for me, will ya?"

That's what I'm going to do....

lets get a head count

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger

??

Remember I will run a taxi service from the train station in Somerville or wherever !!!

[dpm802]

lets get a head count

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802

??

I was just upstairs making chili and thinking "We need to bump up the NJG2G thread and get a head count."

You beat me to it.

BTW, the chili will be ready at 7:00pm if anybody wants some.

[DunEdinRanger]

How to order from a Cuban restaurant:

1. Point at what you want on the menu
2. "Hey Lou, order this for me, will ya?"

EEnky quiere Ropa Vieja.

[dannymayo]

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802
dannymayo
...

[craig87c]

EEnky quiere Ropa Vieja.

Donde esta la bibliotheca?

just got word from SWMBO, I'm officially in! Btw, I'm thinking about buying a case of Arko sticks from Amazon. Would any of you guys like to split a case that would be hand-delivered to the meetup? It'd be cheaper for all of us! 15.sticks per box.

[dpm802]

Donde esta la bibliotheca?

just got word from SWMBO, I'm officially in! Btw, I'm thinking about buying a case of Arko sticks from Amazon. Would any of you guys like to split a case that would be hand-delivered to the meetup? It'd be cheaper for all of us! 15.sticks per box.I might go in for a couple of sticks ...

thanks for reminding me about Arko ... I want to bring along the stick that came with my RV-LE'11 and see if Rudy will autograph it for me.

[brianw]

Check with Gman (shavabuck)... I think he is coming to the meet....might save some shipping, and maybe a great deal

[DunEdinRanger]

Donde esta la bibliotheca?

just got word from SWMBO, I'm officially in! Btw, I'm thinking about buying a case of Arko sticks from Amazon. Would any of you guys like to split a case that would be hand-delivered to the meetup? It'd be cheaper for all of us! 15.sticks per box.

Despues de tres cervezas, vas a pensar de Don Quixote - Molino! Molino!

[DaveNJ74]

¿dónde está mi cerveza?

[Jim]

Tendré que los rabos de buey y una corona fría mi buen hombre.

[brianw]

en la tienda de licores ... ¿El presidente?

[Jim]

en la tienda de licores ... ¿El presidente?

Nada de eso jefe.

[DunEdinRanger]

Si quieres cerveza cubana, tienes que pedir Hatuey.

[Jim]

Si quieres cerveza cubana, tienes que pedir Hatuey.

Prefiero preguntar Diego Velázquez.

[DunEdinRanger]

A little bit further north.... Martino's in Somerville... Best Cuban food in Jersey....BYOB tho

Bring Your Own Badger? Blade? Here's the address: 212 W Main St Somerville, NJ 08876 It does not appear to be too far from the Somerville Train Station.


Martino's is great! They make an excellent Ox tail.

Rabo Encendido


Any straight shavers coming ??

Why are you asking about orientation?

[DunEdinRanger]

FENCE??? No Fence...

Yuca Con Mojo
Pernil Asado Congri
Flan
Materva
Cafe

[dannymayo]

Beer/Cerveza
Pork/Puerco
Coffee/Cafe

[DaveNJ74]

Badgers.... we dont need no stinking badgers..... just boars.

[dpm802]

Bump ... 11 days and counting down ...

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802
dannymayo
...
...
...
???

[craig87c]

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802
dannymayo
craig87c

[juban62]

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802
dannymayo
craig87c
juban62

[ORGANIC MAN]

fairly certain Ill be there...
Martino's Cuban Restaurant
212 W Main Street, Somerville, NJ 08876
Phone: (908) 722 8602

[DaveNJ74]

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802
dannymayo
craig87c
juban62
DaveNJ74

[dpm802]

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802
dannymayo
craig87c
juban62
ORGANIC MAN
DaveNJ74


FTFY, ORGANIC MAN ... anyone else?

[njpaddy]

I'm in.

[Rudy Vey]

I think gman.... is also coming.

[brianw]

I'll have some Fountain Pens and a few straights... as well as some Simpson brushs ( I want to sell) and some other things....

[Rudy Vey]

I'll have some Fountain Pens and a few straights... as well as some Simpson brushs ( I want to sell) and some other things....

I may bring some brush handles and some soaps I do not use.

[Jim]

I an at 85% that I canmake it, I have a shopping bag of stuff, should I drag it along?

[dpm802]

Updated list

Brianw
Rudy Vey
Dunedinranger
dpm802
dannymayo
craig87c
juban62
ORGANIC MAN
DaveNJ74
njpaddy
gman (?)
Jim

[DaveNJ74]

If anyone is coming from Manhattan and wants a lift, I am going to be in Staten Island that day and can meet at the SI Ferry on the SI side.

[dannymayo]

I'll be calling Martino's on Tuesday to give them a more accurate number of guests. If anyone hasn't RSVP'd yet please do so. I look forward to seeing you all on the 12th.

[brianw]

I'll bring a case of Presidente

[dpm802]

Is anyone coming from South Jersey (Cherry Hill, 08034)?

I can carry one passenger in my car (no back seat) but I'd prefer to ride with someone else.

[Shave A Buck]

I will be there. I have some items Free for the taking as well.

[dpm802]

I hope at least one of us is bringing a digital camera ... It will be nice to have some visual memories of the event ... and for people in Arizona and whatnot who might be interested in what we (and our geek-gear) look like.

[craig87c]

I'm bringing a Saddleback briefcase full of stuff that I'm not taking back with me. You guys better be prepared to take everything!

[brianw]

A word of advice... don't sit tooooo close to Craig, he earned his nickname of inky and his custom title !!!!!!!

[craig87c]

I am innocent of all charges leveled against me!

[Jim]

The evidence is still in my laundry room.:letterk2:

[dpm802]

Here's my partial list of what I'm bringing for BST purposes:

1 bottle of Bigelow #1200 ASB @ 100%
Futur razor, with box and instructions, leather travel case, 2 packs of Iridium blades.
C&E Pure Travel Brush
1917(?) Gillette razor, cased, with 2 blade dispensers. All pieces are silver-plated.

A couple of my grandfather's straights ... maybe one of you straight-razor experts can clue me on the history and what-not.
My active rotation of brushes. Currently numbered at 6. And that doesn't even include the collectables like LEs and Customs.

[Rudy Vey]

I am innocent of all charges leveled against me!

Still remember that inkcident last January in the restaurant where we had a coffee - they had warned me beforehand why they call you Inky.....the waiter was quite helpful with a few extra napkins...Gotta love InkNix (Brian just had bought a tub at Art B's).

[Jim]

I have a cubic yard of stuff to bring- all proceeds to fight cancer!

[DunEdinRanger]

For BST purposes, I will bring a Simpson Eagle G3 brush, A Gillette Red Tip, and maybe a few nice GEM SE's...

[dannymayo]

Gentlemen,

I'll be calling Martinos later today to confirm we're a party of 12. If I'm missing anyone let me know.

1.Brianw
2.Rudy Vey
3.Dunedinranger
4.dpm802
5.dannymayo
6.craig87c
7.juban62
8.ORGANIC MAN
9.DaveNJ74
10.njpaddy
11.gman
12.Jim

4 days and counting!

[dannymayo]

I just called Martinos and finalized our reservation. Jim suggested that we have a table for our gear, it's done. Hopefully we won't get any food or drink on us or our gear. The reservation is under, Badger and Blade.

[brianw]

I just called Martinos and finalized our reservation. Jim suggested that we have a table for our gear, it's done. Hopefully we won't get any food or drink on us or our gear. The reservation is under, Badger and Blade.
as to the ink part....suggestion is we get a 3rd table and put Inky over there !!!!

[Jim]

as to the ink part....suggestion is we get a 3rd table and put Inky over there !!!!

Brian you job is to bring the Nix!

[craig87c]

Ink nix doesn't work on me :crying:

[brianw]

I'll bring the pumice stone...we can remove a few levels of skin....that should to the job...:001_tt2::001_tt2:

[Shave A Buck]

How the hell are we going to clean out our own stuff if we just switch it for someone elses..lol

[dannymayo]

We'll be doing a drawing for some Captain's Choice products thanks to Scott at Captain's Choice!

1st, 4 oz. Captain's Choice Bay Rum AS
2nd, Sample vial of Captain's Choice AS
3rd, Captain's Choice soap

It's getting better and better.

http://www.captainschoicestore.com/

[DunEdinRanger]

as to the ink part....suggestion is we get a 3rd table and put Inky over there !!!!

With a big plastic bib and tablecloth. And a warning sign for other customers. lol

[Jim]

Ink nix doesn't work on me :crying:
Its for us, not you!
Hahaha..

[DunEdinRanger]

Its for us, not you!
Hahaha..

How much will we need?

[DaveNJ74]

I hope at least one of us is bringing a digital camera ... It will be nice to have some visual memories of the event ... and for people in Arizona and whatnot who might be interested in what we (and our geek-gear) look like.

Since it's NJ you might not want to post pics, witness protection...LOL
:2guns:

[DunEdinRanger]

Since it's NJ you might not want to post pics, witness protection...LOL
:2guns:

Do not sit with your back to the door or a window.

[DaveNJ74]

Do not sit with your back to the door or a window.

Thats right.

[brianw]

Less then 2 days... the brushes I bring will be for sale....all proceeds to go to B&B team at Movember

[dannymayo]

I'm looking for a red insert for a Dovo shavette if anyone has one they'd sell/trade.

[dpm802]

Less then 2 days... the brushes I bring will be for sale....all proceeds to go to B&B team at Movember2011 has been my year for SBAD ... what are you bringing?

[brianw]

Simfix's... Milkchurn2, Harvard 4, "56", case, and a classic1

Great time to pick up a brush with the proceeds going to Movember...a win win !!!

Also will have a few for you to drool over !!!!

[Jim]

Simfix's... Milkchurn2, Harvard 4, "56", case, and a classic1

Great time to pick up a brush with the proceeds going to Movember...a win win !!!

Also will have a few for you to drool over !!!!

You better leave that Ivory and horn one home so we don't have a big drama at Martinos. There is not much room for wrestling around.

[juban62]

Anybody bringing a horsie? I've been seriously thinking about pulling the trigger on a Vie-Long....

[DunEdinRanger]

Hey are we meeting tomorrow??

[DaveNJ74]

Hey are we meeting tomorrow??

I hope so.... If it falls through lets all go out and watch the Rutgers game somewhere.

[dannymayo]

Tomorrow

NJ B&B Get-Together
Martinos in Somerville
2:00 pm

212 W. Main Street
Somerville, NJ 08876
(908) 722-8602

[Jim]

Wooo!

[DunEdinRanger]

A quick lesson in the proper pronunciation and correct usage of Cuban idioms and terms, in case I am delayed.

If the waiter asks you for the order and you would like a few more minutes, please say the following:

Cone-Yo No Meh Hoe-Dahs

Suppose the food arrives and it is a bit salty? Simply say

Cone-Yo Seh Leh Fweh la mahno en la sahl

Or suppose you want some coffee after the meal?

Me BoneBoneSeeTah, oon cafehseetoh cone see-ehteh azoocars.

[dpm802]

How do you say in Spanish ... "We need about a dozen small bowls and pitchers of water so we can practice making lather, Por Favor?"

[brianw]

Lou....you better not be delayed or you must sit with Inky !!!!

[DunEdinRanger]

How do you say in Spanish ... "We need about a dozen small bowls and pitchers of water so we can practice making lather, Por Favor?"

Por favor, Eenky nehsayseetah oona doe-sehna deh plahtoes own-doze.

[Rudy Vey]

We all had a great time!!!!

[njpaddy]

We had a good group and a lot of stuff was there for purchase, PIF or display. It was fun.

[juban62]

Like any good jersey gathering, now we have to figure out what to do with the bodies.

[Jim]

What a great bunch of guys! A good time indeed. Thank goodness Lou was there to confuse the waitress.

[brianw]

A good time was had by all..... How is it I came home with more stuff then I went with ??

[craig87c]

A good time was had by all..... How is it I came home with more stuff then I went with ??

How did we ALL manage that?

[njpaddy]

I intentionally didn't bring much money so I wouldn't buy anything and still managed to come home with another Simpson brush I didn't need.

[Shave A Buck]

Thanks for having me, good time had by all. Jersey shave mafia is in da house, the Situation ain't got nuttin on us.

[DunEdinRanger]

I shouldn't have sat next to Inky...

[DunEdinRanger]

Here are photos of the MOvember Table of Goodness.

Yes, Cricket Hill Fall Festivus, for the rest of us, was had.

[dannymayo]

Great company and great food. I forgot to do the drawing for the Captian's Choice products! I'm home now and I just pulled the names from my hat...

1.Juban62
2.DunEdinRanger
3.NJPaddy

I'll PM Captain Pre Capsize with the results so he can get your winnings in the mail.

[Jim]

Thanks again Dan for pulling this together.

[Mvcrash]

Sorry I missed this one but I've been absent from here for a while. If you do another I would love to attend. Yesterday would not have been a good day for me anyway.

[dpm802]

I had a BLAST yesterday ...

I had to take a vacation day from work in order to attend, but it was Soooooo Worth It. This iis the first real vacation-vacation I've had in a long time, as opposed to just staying home and watching TV.

It was great meeting all the famous and infamous B&B'ers face-to-face ... some people looked like I thought they did, others were a total surprise. (No, I won't say which ones.)

Everyone had their own areas of expertise to bring, and I learned some new stuff about brushes and other gear that I never knew before. It was also a first-time for me (and many others, I suppose) to be able to examine such legendary products as a Bill Ellis straight, Floris ASL, Castle Forbes cream, and a Semogue Caravella(sp?) brush.

Special thanks go out to Brian for his analysis of my Grandfather's Straight-razors, and I also sat at the FP table and learned more than a few things about pens and ink ... but it will be a while before I indulge deeper into either of those two areas.

And Special-Special Double Lauditory Applause and Honors go out to Lou, who translated the menu and made suggestions for which dishes to consume. Most of us (myself included) went for the Roast Pork Cuban Style, with Cafe-con-Leche y Flan for dessert. MMmmmm ... Good!



Sorry I missed this one but I've been absent from here for a while. If you do another I would love to attend. Yesterday would not have been a good day for me anyway.

Yes, we talked briefly about having another meeting on the way out the door. Nothing was settled, but it will happen again. I won't be available until early February, but if you guys want to go ahead and meet again before that, more power to you.

[dannymayo]

Happy to help organize the get-together. Many hands make little work.

[DunEdinRanger]

Wow, I won something!

Thanks, Dan & The Captain!

[DunEdinRanger]

And Special-Special Double Lauditory Applause and Honors go out to Lou, who translated the menu and made suggestions for which dishes to consume. Most of us (myself included) went for the Roast Pork Cuban Style, with Cafe-con-Leche y Flan for dessert. MMmmmm ... Good!



Thanks. My pleasure to do so.

It was great to finally meet the "spendthrift" :) who only uses a blade twice. My frugal soul still recoils at the thought.

And if you think I'm good in a Cuban Restaurant, you should be with me in a Polish one. PIWO!!! :)

[dpm802]

Thanks. My pleasure to do so.

And if you think I'm good in a Cuban Restaurant, you should be with me in a Polish one. PIWO!!! :)I should know more about Polish cooking,
my mother's side of the family are all from a small shtetl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtetl) that is hard to pronounce and even worse to spell.

When she was growing up over there,
it was a tiny and tight knit community.
She learned to speak, and cook, in Yiddish,
and she carried those traditions to America when she came over in 1930.

[Jim]

Hey Gents, did someone pick up a bottle of ink labeled "Sample#2" Give me a shout.

[DunEdinRanger]

Hey Gents, did someone pick up a bottle of ink labeled "Sample#2" Give me a shout.

I know who the culprit is, and already sent Jim a PM!

[Jim]

Ah ha!

[DunEdinRanger]

Ah ha!

That sound you just heard was the culprit being thrown under the bus!

[dannymayo]

Captain Pre Capsize said he'll get out the Captain's Choice products tomorrow. Juban62 will get a 4 oz AS and the other winners will get an AS sample vial and a soap sample.

I shaved today with a bunch of stuff from the meet-up. Bea shave stick, Ever Ready brush w/ TGN knot, Schick Injector, Schick injector blade. The Schick was too mild so a only did one pass with it and then did the next two passes with my Gillette long comb NEW.

I'll add the Schick razor to all the left-over stuff for future charity or PIF purposes.

[DunEdinRanger]

I know who the culprit is, and already sent Jim a PM!


Ah ha!


That sound you just heard was the culprit being thrown under the bus!

In defense of the culprit, I distinctly remember said individual being told to "keep it" by BrianW, and that Brian would "take care" of another person...

Of course, my memory could be playing tricks on me as by that time I was in a Hops Induced Haze and forced to buy fountain pens...

[Jim]

Well at least that part of the plan worked.

[juban62]

I hope we find the time and motivation to get together again soon guys. I enjoyed meeting all of you, and look forward to future gatherings.
A big "Thank You" to Captain Pre-Capsize for the donations for the drawing- can't believe I won!! I look forward to trying the after shave.

[dpm802]

I hope we find the time and motivation to get together again soon guys. I enjoyed meeting all of you, and look forward to future gatherings.
A big "Thank You" to Captain Pre-Capsize for the donations for the drawing- can't believe I won!! I look forward to trying the after shave.I'm looking forward to the next meet-up also ...

I won't be available much until early February, we're sliding into the BUSY SEASON at work.
I'm in the Retail Industry, so we've got Black Friday and Xmas Sales coming up and January is Inventory Month.

But if you guys want to pull something together before that, go right ahead.
I'll just enjoy the meet-up vicariously through the postings and messages.

(Note to self: At the next meet-up, sit someplace other than the FP table.)

[alex2363]

Wow, this must have been fun, I wish I could've made it but my sick aunt had me busy all month. Maybe next time, let me know Jim D.

[steelwindmachine]

anyone want to setup a Middlesex/Monmouth/Ocean county meet? :)

[Jim]

anyone want to setup a Middlesex/Monmouth/Ocean county meet? :)

You may have more luck with a new thread for this get together.

[dannymayo]

Thanks to whomever put the Hero 616 and ink on the free table. I cleaned it out, put some fresh ink in it and have been using it for the last two days. In the future, when someone asks me how I started using fountain pens I can tell them the exact date and circumstances. I foresee another AD.

[Jim]

Save your pennies Dan!

[craig87c]

Thanks to whomever put the Hero 616 and ink on the free table. I cleaned it out, put some fresh ink in it and have been using it for the last two days. In the future, when someone asks me how I started using fountain pens I can tell them the exact date and circumstances. I foresee another AD.

Excellent...glad someone ended up with it! I think the ink that was left was Five O'Clock Shadow, but I'm not really sure. What color is it? And how do you like the brush?

[dannymayo]

Might be five o'clock shadow, put a little on a towel and you could see a bright green halo.

The brush is treating me very well. I've wanted to try TGN finest for a while. I face lathered with a BEA stick two days a row with very good results. I'll give the Cade I got from Rudy a go for the next two days but I'll be using my Caravela.

[dpm802]

Remember that MWF I showed around that had the crystalline stucture on it? I thought that crystal had developed over the course of a year or so, because that's how long the bowl sat undisturbed before I opened it again, and I decided to just leave it that way and covered it with Saran Wrap to protect it.

But I decided to start using the soap again, and guess what? That crystalline lather reappeared the very next day! And it looks even better than it did before ... I'm more of a cream guy, so I don't know that much about soaps, but I've never seen any other brand do that besides MWF.

I don't think its the Tallow, because my other Tallow soaps don't crystallize like that ... so what is it? Could it be the Lanolin that's in MWF?

[Jim]

Remember that MWF I showed around that had the crystalline stucture on it? I thought that crystal had developed over the course of a year or so, because that's how long the bowl sat undisturbed before I opened it again, and I decided to just leave it that way and covered it with Saran Wrap to protect it.

But I decided to start using the soap again, and guess what? That crystalline lather reappeared the very next day! And it looks even better than it did before ... I'm more of a cream guy, so I don't know that much about soaps, but I've never seen any other brand do that besides MWF.

I don't think its the Tallow, because my other Tallow soaps don't crystallize like that ... so what is it? Could it be the Lanolin that's in MWF?

Well soap is salt so thats what you may be looking at I would guess. I missed that show and tell.

[Jim]

Might be five o'clock shadow, put a little on a towel and you could see a bright green halo.

The brush is treating me very well. I've wanted to try TGN finest for a while. I face lathered with a BEA stick two days a row with very good results. I'll give the Cade I got from Rudy a go for the next two days but I'll be using my Caravela.


That BEA stick is a real sleeper- blows arko out of the water, I was very impressed with it.

[juban62]

Well, I received the Captain's package today, WAY sooner than I expected. It has a really pleasing aroma, and I look forward to using it regularly.
Thank you all again for a great day!! Let's make it happen again soon.

[MoeTrain]

So I have been poking around for a while and found this. Seeing that there hasn't been a post on here since late last year I'm proposing another meetup!

Strange request: I am actually moving to the Orange area (from the midwest) in about a month and would look forward to being shown around to the local shoppes and possibly a pub or eatery.

[Jim]

What Town Moe?

[MoeTrain]

Orange. Wife will be going to seton hall in the fall

[craig87c]

I was thinking about planning another NY/NJ meetup soon. Great minds think alike, I guess! I'd be in for another NJ. Get together as long as the food's as good as last time :drool:

[dannymayo]

Another NJ meetup sounds good to me.

[Jim]

Tally ho!

[Shave A Buck]

Better start a new thread perhaps