View Full Version : I love this guy's minimalist approach to shaving!
JCinPA
07-02-2011, 06:01 PM
I got into this about two months ago and love it. But along the way, I got two scuttles (I live in two different places with a stocked shave den in each), three razors, a boat load of blades, several brushes, a cream or two, and various and sundry accessories.
I'm settling back down now, to two or three soaps, finding my one blade, getting my technique and process settled down.
Then I find this wonderful gent! No fancy nonsense, no overthinking it, you get in the bathroom, you grab your gear, you shave, quickly I might add, and you get on about your day!
The entire procedure, start to finish, including narration along the way? Under five minutes! I found this very refreshing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLbbQjeZAgk
treebeard
07-02-2011, 06:18 PM
Right to the point, no doubt. It just goes to show that this whole thing need not be overly complicated.
On another note, I would be curious to know if others are using a cologne, a moisturizing cream and an aftershave (all 3) as part of their post-shave?
Dennard
07-02-2011, 06:24 PM
Right to the point, no doubt. It just goes to show that this whole thing need not be overly complicated.
On another note, I would be curious to know if others are using a cologne, a moisturizing cream and an aftershave (all 3) as part of their post-shave?
+1 that this hobby need not be complicated. I enjoy my shaves, but don't have tons of choices. To answer your question, I use aftershave and cologne, but not moisturizing cream.
TallyShave
07-02-2011, 06:43 PM
I can not go cheek to neck in one stroke like that. He also does not subscribe to the "no pressure" theory of shaving either.
Greggy_D
07-02-2011, 06:53 PM
The guy has peach fuzz for a beard. It's not that easy for guys with thick wiry beards.
I really enjoyed this, thanks for posting it. He made me fee silly, perhaps gluttonous, especially since I have three new acquisitions sitting next to me.
In the end, it's really about the K.I.S.S. principle.
BrianK
07-02-2011, 07:28 PM
I don't think I'd enjoy that. Heck, it takes me longer than that to do my face prep (face lather). Well almost. :-)
spindlecone
07-02-2011, 07:38 PM
The entire shave thing at times do's seem somewhat ludicris,at least to me,but it is the Journey that is fun.
Oft times I have wondered what a total hoot it would be if someone started a tooth brushing forum.
Vintage tooth brushes,custom mades,pastes,powders,techniques,it would no question be a success:)
KM-instructor
07-02-2011, 07:41 PM
Thats not that minimalistic really he used three more products than I use.
KM-instructor
07-02-2011, 07:43 PM
I have wondered what a total hoot it would be if someone started a tooth brushing forum.
Vintage tooth brushes,custom mades,pastes,powders,techniques,it would no question be a success:)
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS237US237&q=toothbrush+forum
DaveNJ74
07-02-2011, 07:55 PM
The guy has peach fuzz for a beard. It's not that easy for guys with thick wiry beards.
I agree, when you see a lot of these youtube videos, these guys have barely any growth whatsoever. You can also argue that they have such close shaves because of the DE/SE. I did come across a video once where he had a 3 or 4 day growth and shaved with a SE.
Balcmeg
07-02-2011, 08:11 PM
On another note, I would be curious to know if others are using a cologne, a moisturizing cream and an aftershave (all 3) as part of their post-shave?
AS, Moisturiser and Cologne for me - with the occasional addition of a Stypic pencil or Alum:001_unsur
kentclark
07-02-2011, 08:13 PM
Technical things aside, he was having fun and enjoying his shave. Good man.
DFSDAILY
07-02-2011, 09:02 PM
I've never heard of putting cologne on your face like that. I always spray my edt on my chest last, and first put on the balm, then the after shave. Also I'd get some serious irritation if I used that dry and thin coating of lather.
I've never heard of putting cologne on your face like that.
It looked to me like he was calling aftershave splash cologne.
bjave
07-03-2011, 01:45 AM
There's an argument for simplicity for newbies too - less variables means you can improve your technique knowing the effects of the changes you are making
BrianK
07-03-2011, 06:58 AM
Oft times I have wondered what a total hoot it would be if someone started a tooth brushing forum.
Vintage tooth brushes,custom mades,pastes,powders,techniques,it would no question be a success:)
The b/s/t on that forum would be great too! I can see it now, "Toothbrush, gently used by only 2 owners.".
kingfisher
07-03-2011, 07:19 AM
It looked like he was using a fairly steep angle. It was an angle that, if I used it, I would have tons of irritation and lots of scrapes/red spots, etc., yet his skin looked fine.
He was moving so fast, though, that maybe it was hard to see the angle he was using.
Obviously a very experienced DE shaver, though. It's like the DE was a natural extension of his hand.
kinglaiho
07-03-2011, 07:36 AM
i think he saves a bunch of time not shaving his chin and upper lip. did he soak his brush at all?
InHotWater
07-03-2011, 07:38 AM
He obviously has been using a safety for quite a while, looked like a U.K. tech razor, different knurling pattern on handle-great razors!
Obi Wan
07-03-2011, 07:42 AM
That was fun to watch, you can tell he is enjoying DE shaving after lord knows how many years of carts. More power to him!
KM-instructor
07-03-2011, 07:47 AM
The b/s/t on that forum would be great too! I can see it now, "Toothbrush, gently used by only 2 owners.".
Now that is nastier than nasty.
Jim Raynor
07-03-2011, 08:08 AM
Just looking at that video just hurts. I could never shave like that and get an acceptable shave.
Chris Thompson
07-03-2011, 09:47 AM
Warning, I'm still a rank newb. Actually, I aspire to rank newb as I'm still shaving electric while trying to figure all of this out before I make some purchases so I can switch.
I'm a bit confused by his order of operations, and at least part of it might be UK terminology?
He puts on "cologne" which he says closes the pores, then puts on moisturizer. Isn't the whole point of moisturizing to get into the skin? Wouldn't moisturizing with "open pores" be more useful?
Also, Cologne has a smell, after shave has a smell, and he's mixing them?
Chris Thompson
07-03-2011, 09:50 AM
Whoops, sorry. My subscription settings were wrong and I need another post to get this thread subscribed. Mea Culpa.
Sledgehammer39
07-03-2011, 09:52 AM
Cool Video.
Putting aside this gentleman's (imo bad) technique; I have a few comments about this video.
JCinPA, I don't understand how you consider this minimalist. The guy uses a brush, soap, and after he shaves he uses three products on his face! His shaving time is so short because he does not shave half of his face; arguably the more difficult sections to shave.
Now, let me address some other things. At 1:12 he claims that the propellant in canned shaving foam is alcohol. That is false. Perhaps alcohol is an ingredient, but it most certainly is not the propellant. Gaseous hydrocarbon propellants such as mixtures of pentane, propane, butane and isobutane are commonly used. You could say I'm nitpicking, but misinformation is misinformation. At 3:44, "buff" your face with a towel?? At 4:05, he claims that cologne closes pores. As anyone who has been a member of B&B for more than a month cannot help but learn, pores do not open and close. At 4:29 he rubs moisturizing cream into his eyes! What is that all about? I'm not even going to touch his technique. I wouldn't listen to anything this guy has to say.
oldspiceboy
07-03-2011, 10:37 AM
Putting aside this gentleman's (imo bad) technique; I have a few comments about this video.
Now, let me address some other things. At 1:12 he claims that the propellant in canned shaving foam is alcohol.
Yea I was wondering the same thing. Weird that he would say that. But he seems like a nice Gent anyway. Anyone know a vendor that stocks Arko products beyond shave sticks?
He's having fun, enjoying his shave, and not filling a landfill with plastic carts and cans.
Doesn't that cover just about every reason people join this sites like this? Props to the gent and here's to many more enjoyable shaves!
He's having fun, enjoying his shave, and not filling a landfill with plastic carts and cans.
Doesn't that cover just about every reason people join this sites like this? Props to the gent and here's to many more enjoyable shaves!
It doesn't really cover talking out of one's ass in an instructional video on YouTube.
jsj_297
07-03-2011, 11:37 AM
+1 on the peach fuzz growth....and yes, I am envious.
Viseguy
07-03-2011, 12:18 PM
Here's the same guy again, with some visible growth this time. I don't think his technique is that bad. He's a little cavalier with touching up without relathering (and getting some redness as a result), but he's not cutting himself up or anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egKaCO_I5-s&NR=1
:shocked:
Is that what I think it is?
JCinPA
07-03-2011, 02:27 PM
^^^^^^^
:scared:
Yes, he is not 'minimalist' in that he does use a lot of AS products, but I was just entertained by his matter of fact, 'this ain't rocket science, folks' approach to shaving. I just found him fun to watch.
He's not nearly as informative or helpful as Mantic or Geofatboy for new shavers.
:shocked:
Is that what I think it is?
If you're going to take a close up shot of your soap for YouTube, make sure to get the pubes out first.
Fairchild86
07-03-2011, 06:08 PM
This guy Steve has been making videos on shaving for some time now. All his videos are pretty similar to this one where he will just talk about things and give shave tips while shaving. I love watching his videos, and too admire his minimalist approach to this hobby. Shaving does not have to take 20-30 minutes like most of you argue. Sure he may shave over the same place without lather or doesn't have the thickets facial hair, but who really cares. He is doing something he enjoys and takes the time to put videos out. I applaud him for this.
spindlecone
07-03-2011, 06:11 PM
If you get a DFS,makes no diff how you get there.
Go West Young Man
07-04-2011, 10:37 AM
The lesson for newbs here is to follow the rules slavishly until but only until you get comfortable with the razor, and then feel free to adapt and modify your routine to what works best for you.
DFSDAILY
07-04-2011, 11:38 AM
Yea I was wondering the same thing. Weird that he would say that. But he seems like a nice Gent anyway. Anyone know a vendor that stocks Arko products beyond shave sticks?
Shave a Buck has all of the Arko products, pretty cheap too.
stevefaragher
09-14-2011, 02:29 PM
:shocked:
Is that what i think it is?
its a dog hair...i have a black cocker spaniel
noahpictures
09-14-2011, 02:37 PM
The guy has peach fuzz for a beard. It's not that easy for guys with thick wiry beards.
+1
I know it'll never be that easy for me. He doesn't have a coarse beard.
hoskins1100
09-14-2011, 03:16 PM
shoebox shaveshop they carry arko shave sticks arko shave cream arko aftershave cream and balm,
Augustiner
09-14-2011, 04:03 PM
The guy has peach fuzz for a beard. It's not that easy for guys with thick wiry beards.
Exactly.
1) He saves a bunch of time by not having to shave his upper lip and chin
2) I'm sick of watching online shaving videos because most guys in them have a peach fuzz beard that you can't even see. All they have to do is like 2 swipes and their whole beard is gone. They make it look deceptively easy. Anyone with a thick course beard, myself included, has a tougher time then that.
With that said, he does step up to the plate and knock it out like it's nothing. I like that.
SpikeDurden
09-14-2011, 04:57 PM
lol @ people complaining he doesn't have a thick course facial hair as if that's a prerequisite for teaching people how to shave. Sounds like jealousy that shaving comes easier for some people and doesn't take 30 minutes. I just started shaving with a straight razor, I've done it only a handful of times and I'm already getting nearly bbs because my facial hair is not dense and thick but it's definitely there. Some of you are definitely being nitpickers but I'm sure you know that about yourselves. It's NOT the rocket science some of you treat it like. Sure, I did a bunch of research and this board and many youtube videos were very helpful, but in the end, you'll find your own way and technique and this works for him. He's obviously comfortable with his DE, proficient with it and gets a close shave with it. Who cares about his technique when his results are equal to yours? It's like saying someone swings the baseball bat wrong even though they hit a home run every at bat.
Plus, he's obviously a member here as he just posted a reply so I think a couple of you are being ungentlemanly about the way you're speaking about him. You probably didn't know he was a member but still...
JCinPA
09-14-2011, 05:07 PM
its a dog hair...i have a black cocker spaniel
Hey folks, the man himself is here!
I love your videos, Steve. I get so tired of folks playing Bill Nye the Science Guy with the shaving chore. Your videos are delightful!
Welcome!
John
orchestrion
09-14-2011, 05:10 PM
I've never understood the point of bashing people because of something they can't control (in this case, thickness of facial hair). It's a great video. Give him some credit.
JCinPA
09-14-2011, 05:14 PM
Steve, don't mind the knuckleheads around here, there are not many of them! By the way, it's obvious you shave every day, but I hear the razor singing in your vids. I shave every day, too. I have a pretty tough beard, but you wouldn't know it to look at me because I never let it grow.
Anyway, I do enjoy your vids, glad you are here.
Arturius
09-14-2011, 05:28 PM
The man comes from Liverpool! The home of the Beatles!! Welcome Steve
Kevan
09-14-2011, 05:30 PM
Steve's a great guy. He posts a lot of videos, gives a sort of local color commentary, uses a cool minimalist approach, and actually appreciates comments and advice (I was the one who told him about the Lord 1822L, which he actually bought and uses now). When I come into this thread and see folks bash him for something out of his control (or other nitpicky things when he's obviously doing something that works for him), it kind of makes me understand why other shaving forums bash B&B.
FL shaver
09-14-2011, 05:34 PM
Enjoyed your videos, thanks to JCinPA! Nice to see a 5 minute shaver for a change.
demaro
09-14-2011, 05:41 PM
Great to see Steve here !! He is a great guy who truly enjoys shaving and helping anyone with a question. Simple no frills set up , a razor , brush , and a bowl of Arko . I really enjoy watching his videos. Great commentary as well !!
Hey, I take every shaving video for what its worth and not as gospel. Kudos to anyone that goes through the trouble of shaving on camera as a potential way to help others.
ShavingApprentice
09-14-2011, 06:52 PM
Steve's a great guy and I've been enjoying his videos for a while now. He's a perfect example of learning the basics before finding your own shaving groove. Some folk can do one pass against the grain and get a BBS, others can get perfect shaves using a Mach3 and a can of gel. Go with what works for you I say, even if it does go against convential wisdom.
Drubbing
09-14-2011, 11:03 PM
His attitude and approach is good, but instruction-wise it's not ideal. Anyone who cares about getting a good result knows lather is very important - he barely gives it a chance to get anywhere near good - but that's clearly not a problem for him. So it that sense I don't think his vids are liable to help newbs that much, as a good lather can help protect against poor technique in the early days.
Once you know what you're doing you can break any 'rules' you like, if it works for you. That's doesn't mean it's a good way to teach people something.
As for 30+ minute shaves and minimalism, I can't fathom how anyone, even a newb, would take so long. The time consuming bit is prep and lathering, the actual shave doesn't take that much longer than a cart. Throw out most of the prep (as I do, I found the warm towel/lather palaver an overrated waste of time) and make a decent lather in a couple of minutes, and you've got a 10 minute shave.
DE_Dude
09-15-2011, 09:22 AM
He doesn't re-lather for touch ups at the end. Does anybody else do that?
I've done it a little bit for an individual hair that sticks out, but not big passes like he does. I haven't done that since the pre-B&B days. I'm tempted to try it with a DE now.
Edit: Hey, there are 2 more pages in this thread! I didn't see that until after I posted. Thanks for the video, Steve.
FL shaver
09-15-2011, 12:01 PM
After pass 2 I reach back into the scuttle for some lather for touchups.
lancj1
09-15-2011, 12:17 PM
I have it down to seven minutes, with one razor, one brush and one stick. Still got loads of blades but know what "the one" is.
I have a routine that's sees me do three lathers but multiple, short, fairly quick passes and I do pass over areas more than once when the lather has gone. I use my cart technique really. It works a treat, though I have no aspirations to become a YouTube star.
Senetsomed
09-15-2011, 07:26 PM
I am old enough not follow any advice (even in youtube form) as gospel, but I am sure grateful for all the advice given (even in youtube form), thank you for your videos hombre.
oc_in_fw
09-15-2011, 07:44 PM
a boat load of blades
Okay, I think I just realized something. Down here in Texas, a lot of people say "butt load". I always wondered where that came from. It is a mis-pronunciation of "boat load", and over time it just stuck.
stevefaragher
09-15-2011, 10:28 PM
Hello all I've been a member of B&B for a while but had'nt contributed and only realised the vids had been sparking debate after tracing back from one of the youtube vids. Its interesting to see and listen to the debate, and I want to say a few things about why and what its all about as I feel some people havent got it, and some people have.
Firstly its not meant to be too technical, I dont know the jargon, or practice certain stroke techniques, etc. like mantic (who is great) Second its more about doing it everyday and how if it is every day then even questionable lathering techniques like mine start to have an effect on skin, irritations and other stuff, I started the daily routine in 2007 and have managed to keep it up this far and feel unkempt if I miss only one day's shave, the skin is vastly improved and although it looks and feels better I think the daily shave has toughened the skin (I always contradict myself), I rub the moisturiser into the eyes to help the saggy bags too, and that seems to be working too.
Thirdly sometimes I shave and video the shave even when I havent really got the time, (sub 4 mins) still making sure its a close one and nick free, because that's the real world, you can fanny round all you want on a Saturday or Sunday shave, getting the lather just right, prep, hot towels etc etc but most days, I'm n a rush but that can never be n excuse not to shave. No one was more shocked than me when people started asking me questions and sharing problems, and even greater was the shock when people started copying and telling me how well it was working for them, I am a bit tight with money so as well as being anti cartridge I am a bit anti expensive real shaving soaps etc, when there's always good old, cheap, cheap effective Arko, a million Turkish barbers cant be wrong. Lastly the order of dressing at the end is based directly on the best Turkish shaves I've had in that country, they always do the cologne, the cheaper the better (I'm currently using bog standard Turkish lemon) or Arko again, I also ahve this stuff form there that is 70 proof and smells like rot gut vodka then the cream again Arko is thick and takes great effort to work into the skin (face massage is a side effect of this) finally after shave jsut for smell. All three of these are hand rubbed. I sort of see the effect and then try to analyse and work out why it works.
PS I do liek collecting stuff to so this testing all sorts of razors and blades is of interest and again some viewers have bought stuff on the strngth of me trying stuff out, Im honest about what I feel about somethin and dont mind suffering for your pleasure ha ha. I also realised I couldnt keep on talking about shaving would soon dry up and realised I needed to talk about life as a 55 yr old bloke in Liverpool and try and say what is in my head at that moment including the weather (I am british afterall) the place I live, I am a proud scouser and kensington resident, my Jobs, the community radio station I run, my relationship bust up, (although I havent cried on camera yet, just wait and see) and finally when the hell am I going to get the hole in the ceiling fixed.
Good luck to everyone, carry on watching carry on shaving. Peace Love and Much Merkur Steve Faragher
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Arturius
09-15-2011, 10:36 PM
Hello all I've been a member of B&B for a while but had'nt contributed and only realised the vids had been sparking debate after tracing back from one of the youtube vids. Its interesting to see and listen to the debate, and I want to say a few things about why and what its all about as I feel some people havent got it, and some people have.
Firstly its not meant to be too technical, I dont know the jargon, or practice certain stroke techniques, etc. like mantic (who is great) Second its more about doing it everyday and how if it is every day then even questionable lathering techniques like mine start to have an effect on skin, irritations and other stuff, I started the daily routine in 2007 and have managed to keep it up this far and feel unkempt if I miss only one day's shave, the skin is vastly improved and although it looks and feels better I think the daily shave has toughened the skin (I always contradict myself), I rub the moisturiser into the eyes to help the saggy bags too, and that seems to be working too.
Thirdly sometimes I shave and video the shave even when I havent really got the time, (sub 4 mins) still making sure its a close one and nick free, because that's the real world, you can fanny round all you want on a Saturday or Sunday shave, getting the lather just right, prep, hot towels etc etc but most days, I'm n a rush but that can never be n excuse not to shave. No one was more shocked than me when people started asking me questions and sharing problems, and even greater was the shock when people started copying and telling me how well it was working for them, I am a bit tight with money so as well as being anti cartridge I am a bit anti expensive real shaving soaps etc, when there's always good old, cheap, cheap effective Arko, a million Turkish barbers cant be wrong. Lastly the order of dressing at the end is based directly on the best Turkish shaves I've had in that country, they always do the cologne, the cheaper the better (I'm currently using bog standard Turkish lemon) or Arko again, I also ahve this stuff form there that is 70 proof and smells like rot gut vodka then the cream again Arko is thick and takes great effort to work into the skin (face massage is a side effect of this) finally after shave jsut for smell. All three of these are hand rubbed. I sort of see the effect and then try to analyse and work out why it works.
PS I do liek collecting stuff to so this testing all sorts of razors and blades is of interest and again some viewers have bought stuff on the strngth of me trying stuff out, Im honest about what I feel about somethin and dont mind suffering for your pleasure ha ha. I also realised I couldnt keep on talking about shaving would soon dry up and realised I needed to talk about life as a 55 yr old bloke in Liverpool and try and say what is in my head at that moment including the weather (I am british afterall) the place I live, I am a proud scouser and kensington resident, my Jobs, the community radio station I run, my relationship bust up, (although I havent cried on camera yet, just wait and see) and finally when the hell am I going to get the hole in the ceiling fixed.
Good luck to everyone, carry on watching carry on shaving. Peace Love and Much Merkur Steve Faragher
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Hey Steve, nice post...love to hear the weather in Liverpool..rain..LOL Shave on and enjoy!!
stevefaragher
09-15-2011, 10:45 PM
Oh yeah I actually do have a coarse(ish) beard but the daily routine seems to have had an effect on that too, if I could bear to grow it a bit I may do, I can rarely go past three days growth these days without it driving me mad.........
Oscroft
09-15-2011, 11:11 PM
Hi Steve. Nice vids, and welcome from a fellow Scouser. I think the key point you've hit on here is that you should do it the way it works for you, and that there's no "one size fits all" set of rules.
Cheers,
Bigsurprise
09-16-2011, 12:02 AM
Great to hear from you Steve. I like your videos, and your accent! Although I personally follow a different technique, I find your shaves and speech relax me quite a bit. I try and watch one of your videos every day!
Darko
09-16-2011, 12:59 AM
Very refreshing vid , being new to all this I seem to be in the bathroom for a good 20 mins , don't get me wrong I really enjoy my man time !! Lol shaving but it's refreshing to see it does not need to be a expedition to the and Andes
Puerco
09-16-2011, 02:36 AM
Steve I really liked your videos and your no nonsense approach to it. Like you I also love the arko soap and I also use the arko aftershave cologne and the arko fat cream after shaving, great products for a very low price. After watching your video I did mash a arko stick into a bowl cause your way looks easier than rubbing the stick on my face.
JCinPA
09-16-2011, 04:05 AM
Hey, Steve, I started this post (in a complimentary way), and really enjoy your videos. Like you, shaving has become part of the 'real world' routine for me, I'm not as quick as you at it, but I'm not as slow as when I started, either. I was drawn to your videos because they scream, "This is not rocket science, people!"
I cringe sometimes at the 7-page threads in our Shave Clinic. Sometimes. There is very good advice there, too, but generally speaking about half the folks here overthink this thing to the point I believe they can't see the forest for the trees. About a quarter offer no advice and just post comments like,
"Wet brush, swirl on the puck, lather on your face."
The rest offer sensible, simple but understandable--and helpful, advice. You strike that balance, and I don't get the sense you're trying to hold class, either. So I see Mantic offering a great service (his and Geofatboy's vids got me starting painlessly) and your vids are demonstrative of, "See how easy this is? Once you do this for several months you can quit thinking about it so damn much and just shave!'
I don't know what your intention is and I don't mean to attribute your motives to you, but that's what I get out of them. And I enjoy them immensely.
I'm also glad you told us about your dog. :wink2: :lol:
Wil Dorenbos
09-16-2011, 04:12 AM
I would be curious to know if others are using a cologne, a moisturizing cream and an aftershave (all 3) as part of their post-shave?
Yes, I do.
Mischka
09-16-2011, 05:37 AM
Count me too, as a fan of your videos, Steve.
I don't wet shave in pursuit of some type of out-of-body, nirvana experience - I shave because I want to remove the hair that grows on my face each day. You videos are akin to the fable "The Emperor Has No Clothes", meaning that that it doesn't take over-hyped/overpriced/latest fad shaving gear to get the job done right.
Kudos to you for creating and posting them.
Foyle
09-16-2011, 07:08 AM
Hey Steve, I've enjoyed your vids too. Glad to see you're part of the forum.
saliavin
09-16-2011, 10:53 AM
Steve, great vids. I'm an Arko man as well. Hard to justify the expensive, though I will admit better smelling, soaps when Arko performs equally well.
To everyone else: All we have here is varity. From what I understand de shaving can range from The Method Shave with Kyle's Prep to The Steve Faragher Shave. I'll be honest the vids I showed to my brother about de shaving were Steve's. Mantics are great! I learned alot from them. But if I had seen some of the other vids, or read that it would take me 30 minutes to shave my face let alone my dome, I doubt I would have bought my de, and given it a go.
iain147
09-16-2011, 01:04 PM
Just shows how anal and ignorant some of you yank wet shavers are.Of course you can have a good wet shave in approx 5 mins.As steve says,who has 20-30mins
in the morning to shave?And as for this 'canned goo' expression that mantic seemed to have invented,if any of you had any chemistry knowledge you'ld realise that
the aerosol formulation is virtually the same formulation as the solid cream or soap,just conveniently pre-prepared by the manufacturer for ease of use.And there is
no alcohol in an aerosol can.The only real criticism i would have of steves regime is the order of addition of post shaves.Moisturiser(with an s!) should be added first
to damp skin,as it will seal in the water as it film forms,which is really what you are looking to achieve by using moisturiser.Only other criticism is that steve isn't
an arsenal fan!
rajagra
09-16-2011, 02:02 PM
Steve, you make better conversation on your own than I do with company!
Be proud of your vids.
YetiDave
09-16-2011, 02:06 PM
Makes me want to try arko!
stevefaragher
09-16-2011, 02:44 PM
Just shows how anal and ignorant some of you yank wet shavers are.Of course you can have a good wet shave in approx 5 mins.As steve says,who has 20-30mins
in the morning to shave?And as for this 'canned goo' expression that mantic seemed to have invented,if any of you had any chemistry knowledge you'ld realise that
the aerosol formulation is virtually the same formulation as the solid cream or soap,just conveniently pre-prepared by the manufacturer for ease of use.And there is
no alcohol in an aerosol can.The only real criticism i would have of steves regime is the order of addition of post shaves.Moisturiser(with an s!) should be added first
to damp skin,as it will seal in the water as it film forms,which is really what you are looking to achieve by using moisturiser.Only other criticism is that steve isn't
an arsenal fan!
I was right with you there till you mentioned the A word....
oc_in_fw
09-16-2011, 02:49 PM
Just shows how anal and ignorant some of you yank wet shavers are.Of course you can have a good wet shave in approx 5 mins.As steve says,who has 20-30mins
in the morning to shave?And as for this 'canned goo' expression that mantic seemed to have invented,if any of you had any chemistry knowledge you'ld realise that
the aerosol formulation is virtually the same formulation as the solid cream or soap,just conveniently pre-prepared by the manufacturer for ease of use.And there is
no alcohol in an aerosol can.The only real criticism i would have of steves regime is the order of addition of post shaves.Moisturiser(with an s!) should be added first
to damp skin,as it will seal in the water as it film forms,which is really what you are looking to achieve by using moisturiser.Only other criticism is that steve isn't
an arsenal fan!
So right off the bat, you come in calling the members ignorant? Stay classy, Red Coat.
YetiDave
09-16-2011, 02:54 PM
If you're going to take the the high ground, probably best not to use the term redcoat :D
I happen to agree with both of you though. Many here do grossly overcomplicate things and it's not exactly nice to join up and immediately insult other members
Harvy
09-16-2011, 02:58 PM
...and finally when the hell am I going to get the hole in the ceiling fixed.
...wondered about that!
Love the videos and the chat - please keep it going...
rajagra
09-16-2011, 03:00 PM
I was right with you there till you mentioned the A word....
Haha. :lol:
(I know which one you meant.)
Go West Young Man
09-16-2011, 03:05 PM
+1
I know it'll never be that easy for me. He doesn't have a coarse beard.
Don't mistake 'light colored' for 'light'. Lot of guys doing shaving videos have fair colored beards that don't show up on camera as well as us guys with dark hair, but that doesn't mean it's any thinner or softer.
Cagliostro
09-16-2011, 03:09 PM
Guy looks almost EXACTLY like my dad lol, kinda cool. I like his vid style as well, it is good to know how to shave fast and do it right as well as relax and take your time and do it right as well. Best of both worlds, I subscribed to his channel lol.
james7604
09-16-2011, 03:27 PM
Like the man says, there's no need for fannying about, it's just removing hair from your face. If it works for you, it works for you. If it doesn't, try something different.
HaroldingPatrick
09-16-2011, 04:49 PM
I like his video's - he went to town with a Feather loaded Slant today. The fact that he whips the Feather/Slant combo around like the Wilkinson/Tech combo in the referenced video tells me this may not be his first rodeo :-).
Happy Shaving,
Patrick
stevefaragher
09-17-2011, 07:19 AM
I have transparent coarse hair a bit like a polar bear.
ahoiberg
09-17-2011, 09:40 AM
this reminds me of my wife DE shaving her legs. no fussing, right to the point, done in a flash.
stevefaragher
09-17-2011, 10:03 AM
any chance of a video of this then? lol
stevefaragher
09-17-2011, 10:04 AM
well yeehar...yippie tyahay or whatver whats his face says in Die Hard
Darko
09-17-2011, 11:29 AM
Love it, when I shave the amount of prep that goes into it makes it feel like a rodeo
Mischka
09-17-2011, 11:53 AM
well yeehar...yippie tyahay or whatver whats his face says in Die Hard
Yank pronunciation is "yippee ki-yay" ,but it probably sounds pretty cool with a Brit accent, too. :wink2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvEkQgwGDVw
stevefaragher
09-17-2011, 12:57 PM
Brilliant yeah Bruce Willis, thats the bloke, missed the end off the phrase though lets jsut say mo fo eh, spelt that right didnt I, I must mention this tomorrow on the video Mischka
Go West Young Man
09-18-2011, 09:24 AM
"Yippee Ki-Yay, Mr. Falcon", as the edited for TV version says.
doug1066
09-18-2011, 10:03 AM
Hmmm, I have always had a minimalist approach to shaving. Shower, whip up some lather, shave, splash on some sort of AS and go. All the rest seems to be fluff and flummery to me.
oc_in_fw
09-18-2011, 11:44 AM
Hmmm, I have always had a minimalist approach to shaving. Shower, whip up some lather, shave, splash on some sort of AS and go. All the rest seems to be fluff and flummery to me.
to a lot of us, it is time where we can relax and have some quiet time- something too many people don't get these days. I respect your point, I just wanted to show another equal point.
doug1066
09-18-2011, 01:11 PM
to a lot of us, it is time where we can relax and have some quiet time- something too many people don't get these days. I respect your point, I just wanted to show another equal point.
I respect that viewpoint too. For instance, Sunday is the day that I break out the cream instead of the soap and mug and face lather with my oldest and best broken in brush. I just believe that there are a lot of people out there that believe that every little detail needs to be perfect and that wet shaving will cause angels to come down and magically remove their facial hair. I believe that if you over think something to the point that it becomes another cause of stress, it is time to simplify.
iain147
09-18-2011, 01:14 PM
So,are you a red or a toffee steve?Palmolive sticks give a great shave,and aren't full of potassium or sodium hydroxide which you get in the creams,which are
highly alkaline and irritate the skin badly.
stevefaragher
09-18-2011, 02:38 PM
red unfortunately after today
oc_in_fw
09-18-2011, 04:48 PM
I respect that viewpoint too. For instance, Sunday is the day that I break out the cream instead of the soap and mug and face lather with my oldest and best broken in brush. I just believe that there are a lot of people out there that believe that every little detail needs to be perfect and that wet shaving will cause angels to come down and magically remove their facial hair. I believe that if you over think something to the point that it becomes another cause of stress, it is time to simplify.
I am not that bad, but I am sure some are. I rotate my soaps randomly with two rules- Arlington on weekends, and if I don't quickly pick a soap on the other days it is Speick stick. Takes any stress out of it. I do, however, usually know what I want to use when I wake up.
Antique Hoosier
09-19-2011, 01:37 PM
I enjoy Steve's videos and pop onto YouTube to check them out every now and again. He inspired me to repurchase an Arko soap stick (still awaiting arrival)... And.... As of today, a Merkur 39C Sledgehammer Slant. Keep up the good work Steve. My ancestors were from Liverpool so we have a bit of a kinship!
tchudson
09-19-2011, 03:07 PM
His shaving routine (minus some of the products) is similar to mine, as I have a goatee and, even after a weekend without shaving, not much growth. I can get done in less than 5 minutes if I have to, but I usually take closer to 15.
1. Soak the brush, water on soap to soften while I shower.
2. Lather.
3. First pass WTG.
4. Lather.
5. Second pass CTG.
6. Lather.
7. Third pass ATG.
8. Rinse.
9. Aftershave.
stevefaragher
09-20-2011, 09:04 AM
When did your folks move to the states then? You'll lover the Arko
Antique Hoosier
09-20-2011, 09:56 AM
When did your folks move to the states then? You'll lover the Arko
Steve, my Great Great Grandfather George Rook left Liverpool in 1858 and settled in New Amsterdam, Indiana USA. Shown below is the Wade & Butcher straight razor he brought with him from Old Blighty. It is now in my shave den.
http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae175/Mefisher1961/4bf947bc.jpg
stevefaragher
09-22-2011, 02:37 PM
Very Very Impressed
Angry__Panda
09-22-2011, 03:01 PM
I respect that viewpoint too. For instance, Sunday is the day that I break out the cream instead of the soap and mug and face lather with my oldest and best broken in brush. I just believe that there are a lot of people out there that believe that every little detail needs to be perfect and that wet shaving will cause angels to come down and magically remove their facial hair. I believe that if you over think something to the point that it becomes another cause of stress, it is time to simplify.
That is the beauty of it, some of us might take much longer and have a couple more steps, but it doesn't add stress (for the most part). Before my shower I go and select the products I want to use, then;
shower
soak brush
face lather
hang out for a couple minutes (I stopped doing the hot towel, though if it cools down I might go back to it)
WTG
XTG
ATG
rinse with hot water
rinse with cold water
clean my stuff while I let my face drip
AS
air dry
If I were in a hurry I can still bang that out in probably under ten minutes. Sometimes I don't do three passes, sometimes I bowl lather, sometimes I change things here and there. The beauty of it is that it starts my day off on the right foot. So I do want things to be perfect but not to the point where it destroys what shaving has become for me.
Either way I did want to pop my head in this thread and thank you Steve. I started doing my WTG and XTG passes with more of a 45 degree angle like you do and have been getting much closer shaves on my cheeks and chin. Also ended up doing an AS splash and an AS balm yesterday after my shave to try it out, can't wait till it cools down here so I can use that method more often :) . Please keep up the good work and posting the awesome videos :) .
tom66
09-22-2011, 03:26 PM
great videos, man! it was good to see another shaving mug/tub as worn and battered as mine! keep the videos coming!
Antique Hoosier
09-22-2011, 04:34 PM
Very Very Impressed
Thank you Sir, I'm quite fortunate to have it.
By the way, I'm two days in with the Merkur 39C Slant and Feather blade combo. Very enjoyable!
jsj_297
09-22-2011, 05:17 PM
^^^that 39c/feather combi is quite the set up!!! I might need to revisit that setup again......hmmmmmm
Do u have blade alignment problems with yours? Mine took forever to align, thats why i got rid of her.
echotron
09-22-2011, 06:13 PM
I can not go cheek to neck in one stroke like that.
Me neither ...
It maybe be time efficient but it sure didn't look relaxing or enjoyable ... personally, I don't like "Quickies"! :wink2:
spremino
09-23-2011, 02:42 PM
Right to the point, no doubt. It just goes to show that this whole thing need not be overly complicated.
+1. A shave can be just a shave. Such videos could be showed to infidels who think a wet shave is a long process.
I agree, when you see a lot of these youtube videos, these guys have barely any growth whatsoever. You can also argue that they have such close shaves because of the DE/SE. I did come across a video once where he had a 3 or 4 day growth and shaved with a SE.
+1. What I like the most about Geofatboy's videos on Youtube I've watched is that he always shaved what in a comment to a video of those I've called "some real beard".
Airborne
09-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Steve, I applaud your delivery on YOUTUBE. I have shared with close friends (KJ4RKB, for example), your videos and he has since bought Arko for himself and shared 6 sticks with me. We both enjoy your videos and you are right--if you talk about sharing all the time you would end your series pretty quickly. As for cheap, and on a personal note, I despised shaving in the military. I did it because I had to. I was also short money and for over 19 years (1990-2009), I grabbed a bar of bath soap, a 3-5 blade cartrige razor and did the deed. I used no creams, balms, talcs. I would add cologne or aftershave and be done with the non-sense. It wasn't till 2009 that I began to research what wet shaving ws on youtube and started actually enjoying a shave with great and much needed/wanted stuff (razors, brushes, creams, etc...). I watch geofatboy, mantic59, and more to include your channel this year. Keep up the videos. Many of us enjoy the time you spend sharing your daily life and your hole in the ceiling. Cheers KTBLOOZ
stevefaragher
09-24-2011, 02:11 AM
didnt have any problems with mine but it still looks a weird thing doesnt it, jsut done shave 10 on the same blade I'm going to razor pit it and see if that revives it in any way, jsut got five different soaps off ebay so I will be talking about them later on today in the BiG Shave latest video
Airborne
09-24-2011, 02:49 AM
I look forward to it! I just bought a Futur, 2 Arko aftershaves, Arko cream, Turkish Lavender aftershave and can't wait to try them out. Also, tonight I did a straight razor shave (no cuts thank God), put on some Florida water and some cream. I feel spectacular! :)
spremino
09-24-2011, 06:58 AM
On another note, I would be curious to know if others are using a cologne, a moisturizing cream and an aftershave (all 3) as part of their post-shave?
I don't know whether someone else has pointed it out already, but he is not using a regular cologne, but an "after shave cologne" instead, if such a thing exists (of course it does, but I've never heard about it). An "after shave cologne" could very much be just a regular aftershave.
Sunburst
09-24-2011, 09:08 AM
Here's a bit of background on Turkish kolonya:
http://www.turkishculture.org/lifestyles/turkish-culture-portal/eau-de-cologne-208.htm?type=1
And a review of some Arko aftershave cologne:
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=150949&title=-arko-aqua-after-shave-cologne-&cat=42
Can't wait for the latest installment, Steve. I can't believe you're going to get 10 shaves out of a Feather in a slant.
stevefaragher
09-27-2011, 10:31 AM
you can use th Arko cologne as a body splash too its very invigorating
Mr. Styptic
09-27-2011, 12:31 PM
Lastly the order of dressing at the end is based directly on the best Turkish shaves I've had in that country, they always do the cologne, the cheaper the better (I'm currently using bog standard Turkish lemon) or Arko again, I also ahve this stuff form there that is 70 proof and smells like rot gut vodka then the cream again Arko is thick and takes great effort to work into the skin (face massage is a side effect of this) finally after shave jsut for smell.
Hi, Steve. Enjoyed your video and took the major points, but I gotta' disagree with the cologne/moisturizer/aftershave closing. It's wrong in so many ways, no matter what the Turkish barbers say! 1) Few colognes, cheap or expensive, could be splashed on in such quantities without making the wearer offensive to polite society, at least indoors. 2) Putting cologne and moisturizer on before the AS places barriers between the skin and the AS. You're preventing the AS from doing its job. 3) Aftershave is not used just for smell, and in many cases not for the scent at all. Aftershaves have other purposes and are, as a general rule, short-lived scents that allow for cologne to be worn without clashing. 4) If you weren't splashing so much alcohol from cologne and aftershave on your face, you'd have less need for the moisturizer.
Still, I agree with your general idea that the morning shave needn't be a 30-minute ritual that requires burning incense and chanting before the gods for protection from evil DEmons.
Mark_M
09-27-2011, 02:31 PM
I wish my face was as easy to shave as his!!! I mean the amount of "roundness" to his face (if I can use that word) compared to the "squareness" of mine is like night and day! First off I *have* a jawline! Second I have a dimple on my chin (not a Peter Griffin chin, but close). Third I have an Adam's apple. Maneuvering around those three obstacles take the majority of my time shaving. If I could whip around my face like he does, I would be done in record time. Given those three things, I only get time for two passes and most of the time get a DFS! So there!
alex2363
09-28-2011, 07:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLbbQjeZAgk here it is
joshuasethcomposer
09-28-2011, 07:21 AM
That's not minimalist. Just fast.
salisburyyates
09-28-2011, 07:48 AM
Excellent videos Steve. The way you discuss the tools and the speed and efficiency of the shave is great, but I also enjoy the non-shaving related commentary. Keep it up :thumbup:
Bigsurprise
09-30-2011, 03:32 PM
My usual routine after my shave is Alum Block -> Cream/Aftershave balm. The last two days I decided to try your method Steve, and I like it. I usually fear putting alcohol on my face when it is so vulnerable, especially one loaded with fragrances. However, my skin took to it quite well. :w00t: I don't know how strong it was to others around me, but I noticed the scent until I went to bed.
I'm going to stick to my method, but use yours on special occasions or when I want to spice things up.
stevefaragher
10-01-2011, 02:23 PM
Just used trumpers almond for teh last two shaves and a personna barber blade in three different razors over three shaves....interesting I love the trumpers although it blocked the holes on the wilkinson classic today tooo rich and luxurious !
DOLLARBILL
10-01-2011, 03:43 PM
Not quite what I expected but better than the last two I looked at !
salisburyyates
10-01-2011, 06:04 PM
Just used trumpers almond for teh last two shaves and a personna barber blade in three different razors over three shaves....interesting I love the trumpers although it blocked the holes on the wilkinson classic today tooo rich and luxurious !
You need a good heavy razor for a rich quality cream like that. A Futur/slant/fatboy would be a good choice. Save the value brand razors for value brand soaps (Arko).
El-a-Menthol
10-01-2011, 07:34 PM
Some good points been made.
Even if you don't like a video you don't have to attack someone personal.
There probably was some misinformation in it, probably honest mistakes (I think he mixed up cologne with aftershave, and did applied AS first but called it cologne, and applied cologne after and called it AS).
Mixed feelings about this video. Would not call it a great video, but didn't mind watching it.
Haven't tried Arko sticks, but a Million Turkish barbers probably are not wrong.
I love Proraso so I believe it's good stuff.
JCinPA
10-01-2011, 07:38 PM
Hey, Steve, I'm more interested in what you thought of the Barbers than the cream. One of my favorite blades, plenty sharp and very comfy for me. What did you think?
ryanjewell
10-01-2011, 09:42 PM
anyone have a link to the fb page?
thanks!
Sunburst
10-02-2011, 05:03 AM
Here (https://www.facebook.com/groups/153523774734235/) ya go.
IridiumMourner
10-02-2011, 08:07 AM
I think Steve's videos are fantastic!
stevefaragher
10-02-2011, 08:24 AM
Some good points been made.
Even if you don't like a video you don't have to attack someone personal.
There probably was some misinformation in it, probably honest mistakes (I think he mixed up cologne with aftershave, and did applied AS first but called it cologne, and applied cologne after and called it AS).
Mixed feelings about this video. Would not call it a great video, but didn't mind watching it.
Haven't tried Arko sticks, but a Million Turkish barbers probably are not wrong.
I love Proraso so I believe it's good stuff.
Well impressed with the Personna barbers hvent been able to get them on ebay yet but still looking ordered pesonna platinum chrome (100 for £6) to see what thye're like try the arko I'm sort of missing its reliability its like an old cheap friend lol
stevefaragher
10-02-2011, 08:25 AM
Cheers IridiumMourner I keep on trying warts and all
Angry__Panda
10-02-2011, 09:04 AM
You need a good heavy razor for a rich quality cream like that. A Futur/slant/fatboy would be a good choice. Save the value brand razors for value brand soaps (Arko)
.
I don't think you need a heavy razor, just one that doesn't get clogged ;) . Some of the cheaper ones have blade gaps that get easily clogged...I would think even a Fatboy on 1 might, my Slim Aristocrat does when I have my thick lather. I just rinse it more if I am on that setting (which sometimes I do a clean up ATG pass with it there).
Anyways I thought I would chime in and just say, one thing I have found that I think makes your videos really nice...You are genuine, you aren't full of BS, you aren't trying to get YouTube hits or likes, you are just doing your thing, enjoying your shave, it is kind of like a radio in the morning for me, I pop your newest video on and just kick back, eat breakfast and enjoy my coffee and enjoy the things you are talking about. It took me a couple weeks to really figure out what I liked about watching your videos. I also appreciate that you are willing to try so many products. I think Geofatboy does this, but some of his is more for advertising a certain product on his site (not a bad thing, just not easy to separate something personal from something work related when you work with the stuff you are using lol...I also think he is honest so again, not a bad thing).
So keep up the good work, I am sorry I stay WAY away from Facebook so I can't partake in that, but I will definitely be hanging out on your YouTube channel :) .
Crawford Montizano
10-02-2011, 10:28 AM
A great video without complication
Not a flagellator of terms that cause frustration
So forget about "Gloss finish"
This guy is British.
I can't wait to see his next creation.
Airborne
10-05-2011, 07:34 AM
With the narrowness of that razor, it is difficult to get a close shave with such a thick lather. I find the same with my Trumpers and a narrow width razor.
Airborne
10-05-2011, 07:36 AM
Just used trumpers almond for teh last two shaves and a personna barber blade in three different razors over three shaves....interesting I love the trumpers although it blocked the holes on the wilkinson classic today tooo rich and luxurious !
Yes, that razor's favorite cream is very thin. The Slant would be better suited?
Airborne
10-05-2011, 07:37 AM
A great video without complication
Not a flagellator of terms that cause frustration
So forget about "Gloss finish"
This guy is British.
I can't wait to see his next creation.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
You shave for you
Steve Shaves for few
Airborne
10-05-2011, 07:42 AM
Roses are red
Violets are blue
You shave for you
Steve Shaves for few
This is supposed to be a forum with top-notch class. If it works for x then it works for x. If it doesn't work for you, then don't do it. We all have to live and learn about shaving...that is what the forum is all about. Learning from each other--not bashing for differences. It is an art and not a science since everyone's skin, pocketbooks, access to equipment it different. Please be kind to others. It goes a long way. Thanks. PS Steve is growing a weeks beard to prove to you that he does have one. You have hurt his feelings and this forum is designed to support the craft and art of learning to shave and enjoying it along the way and sharing that information with others.
Please do not post links to outside content that duplicates the B&B forum content- Thank you.
stevefaragher
10-05-2011, 08:23 AM
thank you airborne I'm suffering for my art lol four days growth and counting, the thought in my head can be summed up in four words "the Horror the Horror" a quote from Col Sanders in "Apuckerlips Now Reshave"
IridiumMourner
10-05-2011, 08:26 AM
Hang in there Steve! I enjoyed today's "Zen Shave"!
stevefaragher
10-05-2011, 08:48 AM
ha ha thought it might amuse
Angry__Panda
10-05-2011, 09:50 AM
This is supposed to be a forum with top-notch class. If it works for x then it works for x. If it doesn't work for you, then don't do it. We all have to live and learn about shaving...that is what the forum is all about. Learning from each other--not bashing for differences. It is an art and not a science since everyone's skin, pocketbooks, access to equipment it different. Please be kind to others. It goes a long way. Thanks. PS Steve is growing a weeks beard to prove to you that he does have one. You have hurt his feelings and this forum is designed to support the craft and art of learning to shave and enjoying it along the way and sharing that information with others.
Did you just quote yourself and say you hurt Steve's feelings? I am confused. I don't think anyone here hurt his feelings. Everything I have read here is just talking about how great his videos are and recommendations to try some other products.
Anyways, back on topic I would say that the video for today was amazing. I think you missed your BBS though ;) . Nice work Steve seriously, I needed a good little laugh.
Tillerman7
10-05-2011, 09:57 AM
He does make it look simple. However, I agree that if you have a beard of any thickness or toughness, it is not quite that easy! Cool video.
Angry__Panda
10-05-2011, 10:39 AM
He does make it look simple. However, I agree that if you have a beard of any thickness or toughness, it is not quite that easy! Cool video.
I respectfully disagree heh. I think it is just that easy. Notice our friend Steve mapped his beard (in his most recent Zen of Shaving video he mentioned going with the grain for the first pass ;) ), he uses little to no pressure, he has the perfect angle (for his face...Personally I have to go much more shallow with the slant on my face) and it is no fuss, no muss. Honestly I have been watching his videos for a bit and just naturally tried some different stuff after watching his videos and I have been getting better shaves. Just watch his videos while thinking about how you shave and then think about where your trouble spots are and then combine the two thoughts. That is what I did :) .
It is funny, every now and then we see a topic pop up about how too many of us make this more of a big deal than it should be. Steve is the very definition of how easy and enjoyable this hobby can be without getting super complicated. Don't over think your shave and you will be very happy with it :) .
splice42
10-05-2011, 01:53 PM
I guess I just don't understand how it's possible for Steve to shave while using little to no pressure and yet I see the razor presses the skin in significantly in spots. I wouldn't be able to press my skin in like that without some pressure (and not just light pressure). Maybe I just haven't been paying attention to how much the skin moves around though. Or maybe Steve knows his face well enough to know where he can be fast & furious and where he must pay more attention. The pressure points seemed mostly to be on the cheeks/above the jawline, so that may be it.
I appreciate Steve's approach and his general point. It'd be nice if one day I can shave that quickly. What I really don't appreciate is reading (from Iain147) that I'm anal and ignorant just because I can't whip my razor around my face in 5 minutes and be done. I'd suggest that anyone who spouts such idiocy be at least temporarily banned from the forum, but I'm not a moderator, so I guess there isn't much I can do about that.
stevefaragher
10-05-2011, 03:52 PM
I'm not saying everyone should shave so quickly, in fact until all this debate started (is it a mass debate?) i genuinely didnt realise I shaved quickly at all, its just a strategy to shave before I go to work, I think doing it daily is the trick, its all to do with internalising the process (bit like driving) and making it second nature, practice and the right tools and products, nothing else, which works for me, if I shave more slowly I dont actually get any better results, figure that one, I certainly cant.
I paid for a deluxe shave at a barbers in Liverpool as a treat, the guy used five towels at various stages, It felt great, then I felt my neck ont eh way out, and it occurred to me my normal daily shave was slicker, so the conclusion I came to was I knew where to shave because I had worked out how and where and most guys who got a shave there would be comparing the deluxe shave with their own faulty electric or cartridge one adn think it was better than usual.
The answer is in our hands fellow shavers, quite literally, I look at it as though its driving a route, when I shave my face I am like a taxi driver who knows the shortcuts and the quickest most efficient way from A to B, I could take the scenic route but I need to get to work on time.
I also want us men to teach our sons, nephews etc how to shave, was anyone taught to shave by their dad's, I wasnt but I bet you all stood as a child fascinated by your dad's shaving, but the old man never bothered to give you the gift of how to. The question I always ask is "Has anyone ever taught you how to shave?" only had one "yes" to this and that was someone who was taught in the Army (a chargeable offence) but even then he hadnt been taught well (one pass etc etc). Spread the word spread the love.
Peace and love, free speech, break the slavery of crap shaving, idiotic expensive cartridges so shave away, I love you all
Steve Faragher, Liverpool
Fairchild86
10-05-2011, 03:58 PM
Excellent videos Steve, I enjoy watching your "Big Shave" when you post them. Keep up the great work!
stevefaragher
10-05-2011, 04:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSmRjlY8rdA
Blade Boy
10-05-2011, 04:05 PM
:001_smileI take the minimalist approach also, got to have a minimum of 25 razors, and 25 soaps/creams, etc.
stevefaragher
10-07-2011, 09:18 AM
minimal is as minimum does, I'm just waiting for three razors from Turkey think they are knock offs and I also have just got a feather razor which looks interesting, instructions in Japanese though.....RAD writ large
stevefaragher
10-07-2011, 10:09 AM
Well folks its less than 18 hours before the end of the 7 days without a shave...and boy do I need one, I have grown my own badger bristles, black and grey and will be selling them on Ebay later on tomorrow......keep up all the good work and debate
Shavingly yours
Steve Faragher
IridiumMourner
10-07-2011, 12:20 PM
minimal is as minimum does, I'm just waiting for three razors from Turkey think they are knock offs and I also have just got a feather razor which looks interesting, instructions in Japanese though.....RAD writ large
Which Feather Razor did you get Steve?
stevefaragher
10-07-2011, 03:05 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280740770752?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_500wt_1158
DE_Dude
10-07-2011, 03:22 PM
Steve, the fire during the Turkish shave video is awesome! I've never seen that one before.
stevefaragher
10-08-2011, 03:40 AM
I'm still singed mate, its a bit scary when they first do it, they trim your eyebrows with dental floss which is just plain weird
stevefaragher
10-08-2011, 03:41 AM
Human Kebab!
JCinPA
10-08-2011, 05:10 AM
I'm not saying everyone should shave so quickly, in fact until all this debate started (is it a mass debate?)
Oh boy! Steve, the things that can start a mass debate here are, well ... just hang around some more, you will be AMAZED! :scared:
:lol:
stevefaragher
10-08-2011, 05:13 PM
we love debating in a mass environment
stevefaragher
10-08-2011, 05:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHPXmtV3C2k
man00ver
10-08-2011, 06:29 PM
Well done, Steve! I know how nice it felt to whisk off 42-hours' worth this afternoon... I can only imagine how wonderful it felt to zap away that underbrush of yours. I'm sure the "mystery woman" will appreciate the effort. Congratulations also on your dearth of riots. :001_smile
Coda_
10-09-2011, 12:44 PM
..."the world dont move to the beat of just one drum, what might be right for you, might not be right for some"...different strokes...thats what I get from his videos. No ones grain is the same, shaving is incredibly personal...that said, I could listen to him for hours...he could be reading the dictionary, and that accent would make it interesting...
I love your videos, Steve and you have a great outlook on things.
Bolder
10-10-2011, 08:51 AM
Dude has no jawline and a goatee.
Of course he can shave fast.
stevefaragher
10-10-2011, 11:59 AM
A is for Aaardvark etc cheers mate
stevefaragher
10-10-2011, 12:47 PM
"Dude Where's My Jawline?" great movie....think I was in it lol
You'll be saying I'm old grey and bald next, three things I've never noticed before.
Isnt that a bit "Jawist"
mftoms59
10-10-2011, 11:17 PM
I've been following this thread for the past week and noticed many members can't wrap their Head around someone getting a Great Shave when the Technique used is different from their own. You've got to understand many long-time shavers know the right; stroke, pressure & blade angle that works on their own Face, my Blade angle may Differ from Steve's, but I can appreciate his enjoyment & love for the Actual Shave. I know my Lather is a bit wetter than his, but I'd say his looked very protective and rich which is what he enjoys, You've got to remember one thing... it's about what works for each individual, no matter how different, but the only goal is a Close, Comfortable & Enjoyable Shave!
I enjoyed Steve's videos & the Big Shave Video shows how he can adapt his technique depending on the length and thickness of his whiskers, again proving Style or Technique is determined by one's whiskers. Steve, thanks for sharing your love of The Wet Shave & keep up the entertaining Videos.
I just got caught up on the episodes. The "zen shave" was brilliant!
It is amazing how the way we think we look has such an impact on the way we think others see us.
Nice to see you back to normal!
Bolder
10-11-2011, 03:50 AM
I believe the phrase is "mandibully challenged." Or maybe "mandibularly challenged." I think I was feeling a bit of envy -- it takes me 5 minutes alone to maneuver around my jaw/upper neck areas.
"Dude Where's My Jawline?" great movie....think I was in it lol
You'll be saying I'm old grey and bald next, three things I've never noticed before.
Isnt that a bit "Jawist"
oc_in_fw
10-11-2011, 12:20 PM
I believe the phrase is "mandibully challenged." Or maybe "mandibularly challenged." I think I was feeling a bit of envy -- it takes me 5 minutes alone to maneuver around my jaw/upper neck areas.
Don't forget the chin
stevefaragher
10-12-2011, 04:23 PM
Jaw Envy
Xslim
10-12-2011, 05:04 PM
Nice link. Thanks
oc_in_fw
10-12-2011, 10:04 PM
Jaw Envy
prominent jaws (and chins) are enviable, until you have to shave them.
stevefaragher
10-18-2011, 01:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT63RJJbtTM
Goats Milk soap from Suds Law Merseyside great soap
JCinPA
10-18-2011, 05:19 AM
Goats milk, eh? "Smell that!"
I'd like to, sounds interesting. Nice job, as usual, Steve!
Sunburst
10-18-2011, 07:04 PM
If I were closer, I'd have given it a sniff by now. Someday, I will make the trek to Liverpool. Just not anytime immediately soon, baby's due in about 6 weeks. I am super stoked for that though.
Kevan
10-18-2011, 07:07 PM
I have skin reactions to MANY artisan made soaps, but that sounds interesting (sandalwood/nutmeg.....mmmmmm!). On a related note, Queen Charlotte Soaps makes quite possibly the finest artisan shaving soap on the planet. I don't know if they ship to England but it's worth looking into, Steve.
Sunburst
10-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Their mysore sandalwood is on my birthday list. It's a shortlist and every item has sandalwood in its name, lol. Two out of the three things are QCS products too.
Coda_
10-18-2011, 07:45 PM
...my whole philosophy to shaving: "Different strokes for different folks"...I enjoy the videos because they are less about how to shave, and more about a man sharing with the world a hobby and passion that many of us here have. They are beautiful expressions. They are informative, and they are entertaining. But if your looking for a how to series, Mantic59 is your guy. This is just a guy shaving, and talking about the world. Thats my favorite part. He talks about whats going on in his life. Great videos, keep it up.
Sunburst
10-18-2011, 09:34 PM
...my whole philosophy to shaving: "Different strokes for different folks"...I enjoy the videos because they are less about how to shave, and more about a man sharing with the world a hobby and passion that many of us here have. They are beautiful expressions. They are informative, and they are entertaining. But if your looking for a how to series, Mantic59 is your guy. This is just a guy shaving, and talking about the world. Thats my favorite part. He talks about whats going on in his life. Great videos, keep it up.
I'd not reply and hit the 'Like' button if I could. It's what I'm aspiring to with my videos too. I think that's what Steve's FB group is all about. Gentlemen with a common interest talking about life. It's the Barber Shop, but on YT. We aren't trying to fill the same role as B&B, nor do we want to. We still talk about shaving, but it's more implied than anything else.
I still love both environments. Here for the shaves, there for BS and shaving.
Cheers to you all.
Oscroft
10-19-2011, 06:32 AM
Goats Milk soap from Suds Law Merseyside great soap
Interesting - I'd seen Suds Law soaps on eBay, but I tend to be wary of smaller artisan makers as a lot of them don't seem to know how a shaving soap is supposed to work. Might give them a try, especially as they're local, which I didn't know.
Coda_
10-19-2011, 06:46 AM
I'd not reply and hit the 'Like' button if I could. It's what I'm aspiring to with my videos too. I think that's what Steve's FB group is all about. Gentlemen with a common interest talking about life. It's the Barber Shop, but on YT. We aren't trying to fill the same role as B&B, nor do we want to. We still talk about shaving, but it's more implied than anything else.
I still love both environments. Here for the shaves, there for BS and shaving.
Cheers to you all.
Ive been trying to find the facebook group for over a week. No matter what I search for, I just cant find it...
rockviper
10-19-2011, 06:50 AM
Here' (https://www.facebook.com/groups/153523774734235/)s the Facebook group.
Steve's "Good morning" has grown on me and his morning shave is now part of my daily "must watch TV" :001_smile
Coda_
10-19-2011, 06:53 AM
Here' (https://www.facebook.com/groups/153523774734235/)s the Facebook group.
Steve's "Good morning" has grown on me and his morning shave is now part of my daily "must watch TV" :001_smile
Thanks. I spent a week watching all of his videos...to get caught up. And when I finally did get caught up, I was hooked.
infotech
10-19-2011, 07:01 AM
Then I find this wonderful gent! No fancy nonsense, no overthinking it, you get in the bathroom, you grab your gear, you shave, quickly I might add, and you get on about your day!
The entire procedure, start to finish, including narration along the way? Under five minutes! I found this very refreshing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLbbQjeZAgk
I never got into the whole "zen" aspect of shaving. I used to take a long time shaving because I was learning. Now, I shave in 10 minutes. I was glad once I started getting back into the simple routine of in and out shaving. Shave stick, brush, two passes and done.
miatapaul
10-19-2011, 08:55 AM
The b/s/t on that forum would be great too! I can see it now, "Toothbrush, gently used by only 2 owners.".
Now that is nastier than nasty.
Naw, a little scrubbing bubbles, and some barbersol and you are set! ;-)
stevefaragher
10-20-2011, 08:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0O5pGSymR0
CHINESE GILLETTE IMPERSONATOR WHATEVER YOU DO DONT USE THE BLADE SUPPLIED ITS NASTY NASTY
Oscroft
10-20-2011, 08:40 AM
Hi Steve, thanks for the mention!
Yes, I'm in Liverpool - just the other side of Newsham Park from you, in Tuebrook.
Cheers,
mftoms59
10-20-2011, 09:36 PM
Like Alan, Thanks for the mention, I enjoyed the last two videos & reviews of the new products as you completed your Daily Shave, keep up the Good Work & thanks for bringing a smile to the Many Faces on B&B.
Angry__Panda
10-21-2011, 07:13 AM
Like Alan, Thanks for the mention, I enjoyed the last two videos & reviews of the new products as you completed your Daily Shave, keep up the Good Work & thanks for bringing a smile to the Many Faces on B&B.
I laughed at your reaction to that Chinese blade heh. I have done that with a blade before, only foolishly I kept trying instead of just taking it out and going with a go to blade. I am enjoyed thinking about who I would love to shave as well heh. Keep up the great work :) .
Mischka
10-21-2011, 07:23 AM
"Oufff! Didn't like that. Did you hear that?!? OW OW OW OW OW OW OW No, that's not happening. That's not happening for me, folks."
It's comforting to know that the Chinese haven't been able to manufacture a decent razor blade. They've already flooded the world market with cheap knock-offs of just about everything else.
Foyle
10-21-2011, 07:40 AM
Wow! That was one nasty sounding blade!
Mischka
10-21-2011, 07:43 AM
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Reminded me of this scene from Home Alone! :w00t:
rajagra
10-21-2011, 07:59 AM
Reminded me of this scene from Home Alone! :w00t:
Haha. After using that Flying Eagle blade, I think Munch's The Scream is more appropriate! :lol:
196171http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=196169&d=1319208005
stevefaragher
10-21-2011, 11:38 AM
Hi Steve, thanks for the mention!
Yes, I'm in Liverpool - just the other side of Newsham Park from you, in Tuebrook.
Cheers, do you go to the L& village Market for the Arko stuff then
stevefaragher
10-21-2011, 11:41 AM
ha ha I love it both lookey likey pictures are brilliant chinese blade has been put in the bin
Oscroft
10-21-2011, 12:32 PM
do you go to the L& village Market for the Arko stuff then
No, I don't think I know that - I was meaning to ask you where you get your stuff (I've only used an Arko stick I got mail order, and they're great)
duotone
10-21-2011, 03:36 PM
He seems to shave very close to his eyes doesn't he?
I enjoyed that though, will go back and watch some of his other videos, cheers!
mftoms59
10-21-2011, 06:18 PM
"Oufff! Didn't like that. Did you hear that?!? OW OW OW OW OW OW OW No, that's not happening. That's not happening for me, folks."
It's comforting to know that the Chinese haven't been able to manufacture a decent razor blade. They've already flooded the world market with cheap knock-offs of just about everything else.
The Injector Blades they make are real Good.
stevefaragher
10-22-2011, 05:12 AM
I hate seeing people wit little missed whiskers people miss near the top of their cheeks.... its a man thing
stevefaragher
10-22-2011, 05:13 AM
No, I don't think I know that - I was meaning to ask you where you get your stuff (I've only used an Arko stick I got mail order, and they're great)
its where the ALDI used to be on Prescot Road...its great full of turkish goodies including Arko and a range of colognes......
stevefaragher
10-22-2011, 05:14 AM
No, I don't think I know that - I was meaning to ask you where you get your stuff (I've only used an Arko stick I got mail order, and they're great)
should be L7 Village Market
Chevyguy
10-22-2011, 05:41 AM
I never got into the whole "zen" aspect of shaving. I used to take a long time shaving because I was learning. Now, I shave in 10 minutes. I was glad once I started getting back into the simple routine of in and out shaving. Shave stick, brush, two passes and done.
I'm with you on this James, and since I started face lathering I've cut my shaving time in half. Takes me about twelve minutes. I have one of the new R41's on the way and I'm curious as to how close and fast it will shave once I become accustomed to it.
Clayton
FL shaver
10-22-2011, 05:49 AM
I hate seeing people wit little missed whiskers people miss near the top of their cheeks.... its a man thing
I have whiskers up high on my cheeks, too.
Oscroft
10-22-2011, 06:56 AM
should be L7 Village Market
Ah, should have guessed, sorry - 7/& same key. Still didn't know it, but I've found it now - must have been past loads of times without noticing it :001_smile
I see they're open Sunday - might take a stroll over there tomorrow.
(Edit: Ah, looks like it's the old Aldi!)
Cheers,
stevefaragher
10-22-2011, 08:25 AM
I'm going there in about 10 mins for food this time try the turkish bread freshly baked on the premises and also the meat is very tasty and butchered in house, the Butchers name is Erdan and he's a lovely bloke, I practice my Turkish conversation on him he laughs......
dengar
10-22-2011, 09:25 AM
My beard is like coarse sandpaper. There is no way I can use that technique on my face.
SteveLL
10-22-2011, 09:38 PM
If I shaved like that my wife would have to call EMS. I wonder if there was a blade in the razor?
Oscroft
10-22-2011, 11:47 PM
I'm going there in about 10 mins for food this time try the turkish bread freshly baked on the premises and also the meat is very tasty and butchered in house, the Butchers name is Erdan and he's a lovely bloke, I practice my Turkish conversation on him he laughs......
I've looked over their web site and it looks like a great place - mmm, baklava!
stevefaragher
10-23-2011, 03:16 AM
the baklava is gorgeous but the bread is absolutely fantastic, all freshly baked and the staff and owners are lovely...also there are about a million varieties and types of olives.
lister
10-23-2011, 05:07 AM
I fear even my one day growth would laugh if I tried that on. Would be nice to have that simple a job to do :)
Three passes and touch up to BBS for me I'm afraid.
stevefaragher
10-23-2011, 02:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAgCCatpTG8
Oscroft
10-24-2011, 04:51 AM
the baklava is gorgeous but the bread is absolutely fantastic, all freshly baked and the staff and owners are lovely...also there are about a million varieties and types of olives.
It's a great shop - I popped in to just have a look, and came out with several bags full of stuff! I got some very nice-looking diced lamb, which will go in a curry later, some cooked meats, good live yoghurt, an assortment of baklava (which is great) and some Asian things (including some Singha beer). And yes, they seem like nice friendly people, and prices are good - I'm certainly going to be going back there.
And to get back on topic, I got a tube of Arko cream and a bottle of the Arko "After shave cologne" - I've tried both and I like them. The cream is as good as you'd expect if you've tried the Arko sticks, and the aftershave is light and fresh.
stevefaragher
10-25-2011, 12:05 AM
It's a great shop - I popped in to just have a look, and came out with several bags full of stuff! I got some very nice-looking diced lamb, which will go in a curry later, some cooked meats, good live yoghurt, an assortment of baklava (which is great) and some Asian things (including some Singha beer). And yes, they seem like nice friendly people, and prices are good - I'm certainly going to be going back there.
And to get back on topic, I got a tube of Arko cream and a bottle of the Arko "After shave cologne" - I've tried both and I like them. The cream is as good as you'd expect if you've tried the Arko sticks, and the aftershave is light and fresh.
The Lamb is great, the chicken is really good too, I made a decision a couple of months ago to only shop there with the exception of a fortnightly bacon shop at the LIDL, I get everything else at the market and shop on a two day cycle, never stocking up more than I can carry in one basket. The bread is terrific. I keep trying to get them to restock the Arko sticks and the Arko skin cream. They also sell Derby blades and the cheap and much maligned but functional YUMA razors for about £1.50, they also sell Indian shave soap "flavoured" with Coriander, still mulling over that one as it s £2.50 for a smallish tube.....another review coming up I think. The prices are good, shopping there saves on petrol and time (no long drives and boring super markets) and I get to practice my holiday Turkish on them which they find highly amusing...."You crack me up" as Anna always says in a scouse/turkish accent which cracks me up in turn.
Saturn
10-25-2011, 02:34 AM
whenever i see a guy who has a mustache, beard, or goatee shaving, i always secretly hope he'll shave ALL of it off.
nice vids, though. simple, as shaving should be.
mftoms59
10-25-2011, 05:12 AM
Enjoyed the Sunday Shave immensely, thought the discussion afterward was interesting and humorous. I don't know if I'd want to Shave with Someone, but I wouldn't mind having a Beer or three with Old Abe or General Patton.
totalshave
10-25-2011, 05:33 AM
Really enjoyable video thanks for sharing! Of course you could apply the same technique using oil as well which does not dry out your skin! :)
Angry__Panda
10-25-2011, 06:18 AM
Enjoyed the Sunday Shave immensely, thought the discussion afterward was interesting and humorous. I don't know if I'd want to Shave with Someone, but I wouldn't mind having a Beer or three with Old Abe or General Patton.
It isn't someone to shave with, it is someone that you would shave.
I answered on one of the videos in the comments section, but I guess I could answer here too...
I said I would shave Maynard James Keenan. He is the lead singer of a band called Tool (which I am sure a lot of you have heard of). As of late though I haven't seen much to do with his bands and most of his focus seems to be on making wine. Interestingly enough he makes wines in Arizona (which is where I live). I have talked to him briefly (during a wine bottle signing) and he seems like he would be amazingly interesting to talk to on the subject of wine (I love his music as well, but he seems almost more passionate about wine).
Althought Steve, you could switch up the question just a little and make it, "Who would you like to have taught you how to shave?" you mentioned in your video about people not having anyone to teach them to shave in younger generations, and I am one of those people. I think it would have been interesting to learn from my grandfather on my father's side who I didn't know as well as I wished I had. It was interesting when you brought it up because I remember being in high school and knowing that I should shave, but waiting to be taught how. It never happened :( (dad was traveling a lot for work). This ended up leading me to cart razors instead of the adjustable Schick injector that my grandfather gave to my dad (which I always secretly wished my dad had then given to me heh).
Anyways always a pleasure to watch you videos, I could probably talk on about the stuff you talk about for a good 10 hours but I should probably be getting ready for work instead lol. Looking forward to the next video.
Oscroft
10-25-2011, 07:21 AM
The Lamb is great, the chicken is really good too, I made a decision a couple of months ago to only shop there with the exception of a fortnightly bacon shop at the LIDL, I get everything else at the market and shop on a two day cycle, never stocking up more than I can carry in one basket. The bread is terrific. I keep trying to get them to restock the Arko sticks and the Arko skin cream. They also sell Derby blades and the cheap and much maligned but functional YUMA razors for about £1.50, they also sell Indian shave soap "flavoured" with Coriander, still mulling over that one as it s £2.50 for a smallish tube.....another review coming up I think. The prices are good, shopping there saves on petrol and time (no long drives and boring super markets) and I get to practice my holiday Turkish on them which they find highly amusing...."You crack me up" as Anna always says in a scouse/turkish accent which cracks me up in turn.
I try to do all my shopping in local shops and independents - I don't like the "Tesco everywhere" takeover - though I do use Aldi and Lidl for some things. L7 Village is now one of my favourites - the lamb was the best I've had for some time!
I didn't see that Indian coriander shave soap - but I did see some shelves of various Indian things including henna, so maybe it was amongst them. Not sure I like the sound of it, but if I see it I expect I'll try it once. Didn't see Yuma razors either - I'd probably try one at that price.
And I suspect I know which one is Anna - "I sing while I serve" :001_smile
mftoms59
10-25-2011, 10:25 AM
It isn't someone to shave with, it is someone that you would shave...
Ah, I didn't have the sound too loud, didn't want to wake anyone up, makes a bit more sense. I guess shaving Abe would be a Challenge, as for Patton, I wouldn't want to P*ss Him off, I'm allergic to Lead!
Sunburst
10-25-2011, 05:52 PM
I still haven't figured out who I'd shave and I've been thinking about it since he posted that video. I'm still leaning towards Frank Whittle or maybe Mark Twain.
Oblique Human
10-26-2011, 02:58 AM
Thanks for sharing this, this guy really knows and enjoys His shave.
stevefaragher
10-26-2011, 11:02 AM
what did MT say, "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" that would be cool avoiding his moustache too erll in Tim
stevefaragher
11-02-2011, 05:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEtE6b3rv4
stevefaragher
11-02-2011, 05:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0vyLezZ5c
I get up early just so I can get my alone time. I am a loner at heart, but with work, family, and 2 dogs the only alone time I get is driving to/from work and shit/shower/shave time. I love it, even though the dogs will bump the door if I stay in too long.
Viseguy
11-03-2011, 09:00 PM
Hey, Steve! Good to see you here on B&B. I enjoy your videos. I have drawer full of Arko sticks thanks to you! :thumbup:
Le Buzz
11-06-2011, 11:03 AM
Guys like these are very lucky. They have the trifecta:
1) Light colored hair. In this case, as light as it gets. You can have spots that are not BBS and it won't show too much. I, OTOH, have black hair/light skin. I can't shave this fast and have a few spots not be BBS or my face will look sloppy.
2) They have tough skin. I usually can't glide my razor across that fast. Granted, I don't have the skin of a newborn either, but I do have to be more careful.
3) They wear a goatee and have minimal jawline. He doesn't have to shave any difficult areas, being the chin, upper lip, the jawline, or right below the lower lip.
I am not discounting his shaving skills, they obviously are great and they work for him. But there are a lot of us that aren't as fortunate and we have to take a different approach.
Nevertheless, it looks like he enjoys shaving and has got his routine down, and the videos are very well done and he's very charismatic.
Angry__Panda
11-06-2011, 11:10 AM
Guys like these are very lucky. They have the trifecta:
1) Light colored hair. In this case, as light as it gets. You can have spots that are not BBS and it won't show too much. I, OTOH, have black hair/light skin. I can't shave this fast and have a few spots not be BBS or my face will look sloppy.
2) They have tough skin. I usually can't glide my razor across that fast. Granted, I don't have the skin of a newborn either, but I do have to be more careful.
3) They wear a goatee and have minimal jawline. He doesn't have to shave any difficult areas, being the chin, upper lip, the jawline, or right below the lower lip.
I am not discounting his shaving skills, they obviously are great and they work for him. But there are a lot of us that aren't as fortunate and we have to take a different approach.
Nevertheless, it looks like he enjoys shaving and has got his routine down, and the videos are very well done and he's very charismatic.
I disagree with the first point. I have several people I work with that have lighter hair. I notice when they don't shave or when they do a poor job at it. Now this could be me due to the fact I enjoy shaving and think about those kinds of things. I mean I do get what you are saying though as well, certainly sloppy shaving for those of us with dark hair is not good lol. I don't think Steve is sloppy though, plenty of passes plus a touch-up pass where he uses his hand to feel any missed spots.
I also think that not so much the toughness of his skin, but more the actual shape of his face. He could go straight down from his sideburns to the bottom of his neck and not have to change angle very much at all. My jaw sticks out and has a harder edge to it so to get my jaw line I tend to have to change to multiple angle and be careful to not nick myself. I am jealous of how easy Steve makes it look ;) .
And I HAVE to agree that all you guys with beards, mustaches, and goatees have it way easy ;) .
Le Buzz
11-06-2011, 11:30 AM
I don't think Steve is sloppy though, plenty of passes plus a touch-up pass where he uses his hand to feel any missed spots.
Not at all! He's got good technique... and he's obviously using the touch test, so I didn't mean to discount his technique whatsoever. I do think that if I had lighter hair I maybe could get away with a few DFS spots here and there, but I guess I'll have to wait a few decades to find out!
stevefaragher
11-09-2011, 01:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC7ylxTaKw0
mftoms59
11-11-2011, 08:33 PM
Steve, your Tuesday shave was amazingly quick & looked effortless, Great Job. BTW you made me laugh, at the end of the video you did what I'm sometimes tempted to do... Taste a good smelling lather. :thumbup: :lol:
Fairchild86
11-12-2011, 12:29 AM
I always enjoy your videos Steve, keep up the great work.
Bearsfan
11-12-2011, 07:33 AM
Wow do I rinse my razor a LOT. I never knew that before watching your videos Steve.
Man I'm always rinsing. I'm going to cut down on my rinsing and see if I can cut a little time off.
stevefaragher
11-12-2011, 02:57 PM
The rinsing depends on the razor's gap and the thickness of the shave, the thing being razors like the wilkinson classic clog like crazy and work better with watery mix or oil (ugh oil) with the merkur futur set to stun (6) then it rarely clogs and I usualy rinse jsut to make the head a little easier to see,
Thanks to you and everyone for the great feedback and responses, I sometimes feel like stopping then I get three messages like this and I think right its time for another one. Hope everyone can understand the accent. The shave foam tasted good actually.......
singerman
11-12-2011, 03:28 PM
steve, please dont take this the wrong way cos i love your vids & what you're doing to promote de shaving...
but i absolutely hate beards ( its why i shave in the 1st place!) i could quite easily just shave my forehead.....
so why oh why mate do you not shave off your chin & moustache areas, the very parts where most of us find it difficult to shave? the very parts my wifey insists i get rid of!
i could never produce a nice interesting video like yours, but the truth is, if i was only ever gonna shave my cheeks, i could do that in the dark, standing on the other hand, after 25 pints of lager, :)
mftoms59
11-12-2011, 09:39 PM
..i could never produce a nice interesting video like yours, but the truth is, if i was only ever gonna shave my cheeks, i could do that in the dark, standing on the other hand, after 25 pints of lager, :)
Like We say here... No Photos, it didn't happen :wink2:
reaperkit
11-13-2011, 12:50 AM
Well I decided to give it a go and copy his style (well fairly closely) and I have to admit it did a perfectly decent shave. I had been wanting to try out my portable shaving kit again anyway (which contains a tech) so it was a good excuse. I have to admit, whilst its nice to have a really leisurely shave from time to time, there are occasions where having practiced being quick is an asset!
Kit
mftoms59
11-13-2011, 04:02 AM
Well I decided to give it a go and copy his style (well fairly closely) and I have to admit it did a perfectly decent shave. I had been wanting to try out my portable shaving kit again anyway (which contains a tech) so it was a good excuse. I have to admit, whilst its nice to have a really leisurely shave from time to time, there are occasions where having practiced being quick is an asset!
Kit
Getting quicker will happen naturally with plenty of repetition using the same Razor, Brush and Cream or Soap.
singerman
11-13-2011, 04:35 AM
Like We say here... No Photos, it didn't happen :wink2:
ok sussed, i did exaggerate a bit :) hope that steve does shave off his beard sometime though, will make a great video too :) his easy-speaking liverpudlian accent is very relaxing, i gotta say :)
milamber
11-13-2011, 05:49 AM
ok sussed, i did exaggerate a bit :) hope that steve does shave off his beard sometime though, will make a great video too :) his easy-speaking liverpudlian accent is very relaxing, i gotta say :)
I think he did offer to cut it off once for charity. The closest to clean-shaven i've seen him was in the episode where he bought an electric beard trimmer and set it too high if I recall correctly. :biggrin1: Yes, I am a subscriber and a fan.
sir-nix-alot
11-13-2011, 06:54 AM
Thanks to you and everyone for the great feedback and responses, I sometimes feel like stopping then I get three messages like this and I think right its time for another one.
Keep it up!
Considering how personal and unique this hobby is; it is amazing to read all of the naysayers about form, technique, etc. The only person that has to be happy with your shave is you. There is no "proper" way - the sooner you figure this out; the sooner you will reach shaving nirvana.
stevefaragher
11-13-2011, 11:40 AM
steve, please dont take this the wrong way cos i love your vids & what you're doing to promote de shaving...
but i absolutely hate beards ( its why i shave in the 1st place!) i could quite easily just shave my forehead.....
so why oh why mate do you not shave off your chin & moustache areas, the very parts where most of us find it difficult to shave? the very parts my wifey insists i get rid of!
i could never produce a nice interesting video like yours, but the truth is, if i was only ever gonna shave my cheeks, i could do that in the dark, standing on the other hand, after 25 pints of lager, :)
I need something to stroke when I am pondering but I do shave my neck and underneath too lol and like you the missus like a bit of rough...
stevefaragher
11-13-2011, 11:43 AM
ok sussed, i did exaggerate a bit :) hope that steve does shave off his beard sometime though, will make a great video too :) his easy-speaking liverpudlian accent is very relaxing, i gotta say :)
I have threatened to shave off the beard as a charity thing , but onyl a couple of takers, and some turkish guy on youtube kept asking nay pleading with me to get shut of the beard, might do it over chrimbo though...
stevefaragher
11-13-2011, 11:44 AM
I think he did offer to cut it off once for charity. The closest to clean-shaven i've seen him was in the episode where he bought an electric beard trimmer and set it too high if I recall correctly. :biggrin1: Yes, I am a subscriber and a fan.
Well Watched...... I'm glad some people are paying attention...
stevefaragher
11-13-2011, 11:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZh3bOeYc9E
Vicco video very nice turmeric based Indian shaving foam....great stuff
Oscroft
11-13-2011, 02:17 PM
Hi Steve, did you get that Vicco at the L7 place? I was in there recently and I didn't see it - not on the shelf where the Arko cream is, and not on that shelf behind the checkout where they keep the Yuma razors and the blades.
YetiDave
11-13-2011, 02:29 PM
I've never heard a Liverpudlian accent described as relaxing before.. But then again I am a dirty 'orrible Manc' :wink2:
stevefaragher
11-14-2011, 09:25 AM
its by all the Indian stuff near the checkout bit befoer you get to the Yuma razors and wine
stevefaragher
11-14-2011, 09:26 AM
let's not go there.....we are all lubbly jibbly northwestonians....he said in a relxing scouse accent........
Oscroft
11-14-2011, 11:12 AM
its by all the Indian stuff near the checkout bit befoer you get to the Yuma razors and wine
Great, thanks
n.solo88
11-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Steve Faragher is the man!
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