Noodler's Bullet Proof Ink

[The Knize]

Well, okay, especially for all of those folks advocating that the B&B special Noodler's ink be bullet proof:001_smile, does anyone have any ideas for getting a dried spot of Noodler's bullet proof ink off the cuff of a dress shirt?

Have been able to get such ink out of shirt fabric if I got to it before it dried, but somehow I overlooked this one. No idea how it got there, of course.

Bullet proof inks supposedly bind chemically with paper. I assume and am afraid the same might be true of cotton fabirc.

I think this is Zhivago, if that helps.

[Isaac]

I would just wash it as usual. I have had bullet proof ink hit clothing and it usually washes off.

[DunEdinRanger]

I think we should hope Craig87C sees this and replies. *cough* *cough* I hear he has gotten quite good at removing ink stains. *cough* *cough* :001_smile

[Jim]

That would never happen with the B&B ink...too refined.

[craig87c]

I know nothing. At this point, I just accept that anytime I touch a FP, I'm solidifying my position as "B&B's most Ink-stained" :lol:

[Groat]

Bullet proof inks supposedly bind chemically with paper. I assume and am afraid the same might be true of cotton fabirc.

Specifically, the bulletproof inks react chemically with the cellulose in paper. Cotton contains cellulose as well, so I suspect that you won't be able to get it out. You might try some things, but I wouldn't count on it ever coming out.

[brianw]

I think we should hope Craig87C sees this and replies. *cough* *cough* I hear he has gotten quite good at removing ink stains. *cough* *cough* :001_smile

As well as you Lou...I know of a bathroom rug that got a heavy dose !!!!

[brianw]

Robbie...was that a white shirt.... I have found that white out covers it pretty well !!!!!!

That is the only thing I can suggest

[Jim]

Some of my best work...underappreciated again..

[brianw]

Not at all Jim....you just are tooooooo Refined for this crew

[The Knize]

Robbie...was that a white shirt.... I have found that white out covers it pretty well !!!!!!

That is the only thing I can suggest

Cuffs are light blue, unfortunately. I'm thinking of bleaching it out carefully and then trying to re-dye. It is more or less on the inside of the cuff, so is probably more or less still wearable and would be even after some botched attempts to fix it!

<I would just wash it as usual. I have had bullet proof ink hit clothing and it usually washes off. >

If I had hit it before it fully dried completely, I might have been okay. I think I have done that in the past.

Far as I can tell, if I am going to fool around with fountain pens at all, and I sure am going to continue to do so, ink-stained hands, at the least, are part of the deal!

There is stuff for cleaning fp ink off of hands, though, that is incredible.

I really really try to make sure that the container I am filling a pen from is fully secured!

[rickboone1]

Is Zhivago bullet proof? Wish they'd get the B&B ink going!

[instpasr]

Some of my best work...underappreciated again..

I feel you Jim

[craig87c]

As well as you Lou...I know of a bathroom rug that got a heavy dose !!!!

+1000000. It's always good to remind him of this. :w00t:

[Viseguy]

Is Zhivago bullet proof? Wish they'd get the B&B ink going!

Zhivago is classified as "near bulletproof", I think. It's a mixture of bulletproof Black and dark green. If the writing is exposed to water, solvents, etc., the green dye will wash out, but the bulletproof black will remain.

[Rudy Vey]

Cuffs are light blue, unfortunately. I'm thinking of bleaching it out carefully and then trying to re-dye. It is more or less on the inside of the cuff, so is probably more or less still wearable and would be even after some botched attempts to fix it!

<I would just wash it as usual. I have had bullet proof ink hit clothing and it usually washes off. >

If I had hit it before it fully dried completely, I might have been okay. I think I have done that in the past.

Far as I can tell, if I am going to fool around with fountain pens at all, and I sure am going to continue to do so, ink-stained hands, at the least, are part of the deal!

There is stuff for cleaning fp ink off of hands, though, that is incredible.

I really really try to make sure that the container I am filling a pen from is fully secured!

Channing, why not taking the shirt to a tailor and have it made into a short sleeve dress shirt.......:lol:

[ROBBI52A]

Well, okay, especially for all of those folks advocating that the B&B special Noodler's ink be bullet proof:001_smile, does anyone have any ideas for getting a dried spot of Noodler's bullet proof ink off the cuff of a dress shirt?

Have been able to get such ink out of shirt fabric if I got to it before it dried, but somehow I overlooked this one. No idea how it got there, of course.

Bullet proof inks supposedly bind chemically with paper. I assume and am afraid the same might be true of cotton fabirc.

I think this is Zhivago, if that helps.

Hi my experience with Noodles Bullet proff inks especially Legal Lapis , stains on shirts dont come out despite all administrations. Best solution is avoidance or a pocket guard (sigh ) That being said I have found these inks to be among the best inks that I have used. Zhivago is a nice black ink .

Rob

[emolient]

Bullet proof inks supposedly bind chemically with paper. I assume and am afraid the same might be true of cotton fabirc

The ink bonds with cellulose whether it's in paper or textile.

[Sullybob]

Unfortunately I have have managed to get a drop or two of bullet proof ink on my clothes. If you can rinse it out before it dries then it isn't a big deal.

I have never been able to completely get a spot out if it dries. I have been able to minimize the ink stains once they dry by doing a heavy routine of pre-soaking the spot(s) in laundry detergent, oxy-clean stain stick, basically what ever I have in the laundry room. I try to keep the ink spots wet with soap and let it soak, scrub by hand and rinse. Repeat as necessary. Do not put the shirt in the dryer until you are happy with the appearance of the stain. It seems that once it goes into the drier, the stain is even harder to remove.

At this point I don't use bulletproof ink in my pens unless they have proven that they don't leak/drip etc. Actually I don't use any of my pens that drip or leak, when I get a new pen I don't ink it up with bullet proof ink until it's proven itself, I learned that lesson the hard way. I also closely monitor the ink level because it seems that even great pens have a tendency to sometimes drip when the ink level gets very low.

Ink stained hands seem to be part of the deal, at least for me. :blush:

[The Nid Hog]

I'm sorry that the space to post this question was created by the unfortunate spot on The Knize's shirt! Reading the name of the thread made me wonder if the B&B ink is actually in the works. Anybody know? I'm OK until the end of the summer, but I'm going to need to replenish my supplies sometime before September. I'd hate to give up on the B&B buy...

[Jim]

I'm sorry that the space to post this question was created by the unfortunate spot on The Knize's shirt! Reading the name of the thread made me wonder if the B&B ink is actually in the works. Anybody know? I'm OK until the end of the summer, but I'm going to need to replenish my supplies sometime before September. I'd hate to give up on the B&B buy...

Chris the B&B ink is more than alive!
I am happy to say that I have a sample and it is very pleasant to use.
We anticipate that we will be having an announcement very soon.

[The Knize]

Channing, why not taking the shirt to a tailor and have it made into a short sleeve dress shirt.......:lol:

Great idea! Maybe I can even keep double cuffs!:001_smile

Actually, I wonder if a tailr could not simply make the inside of the double cuff the outside and thus hide the ink spot on the inside. Not a bad idea perhaps.

[instpasr]

I'm sorry that the space to post this question was created by the unfortunate spot on The Knize's shirt! Reading the name of the thread made me wonder if the B&B ink is actually in the works. Anybody know? I'm OK until the end of the summer, but I'm going to need to replenish my supplies sometime before September. I'd hate to give up on the B&B buy...


Chris the B&B ink is more than alive!
I am happy to say that I have a sample and it is very pleasant to use.
We anticipate that we will be having an announcement very soon.

Ink tease :lol:

[The Knize]

I'm sorry that the space to post this question was created by the unfortunate spot on The Knize's shirt! Reading the name of the thread made me wonder if the B&B ink is actually in the works. Anybody know? I'm OK until the end of the summer, but I'm going to need to replenish my supplies sometime before September. I'd hate to give up on the B&B buy...

<but I'm going to need to replenish my supplies sometime before September. >

Really! Just as is true as to scents, I cannot imagine, given the stock I have of them, ever running out of fp ink!

I guess I can imagine running out of my favorites.

[Doc4]

I guess you can take solace in the fact that it's a cheap dress shirt. :001_rolle On the plus side, maybe all that polyester can help make the ink slightly less bulletproof?

[DunEdinRanger]

As well as you Lou...I know of a bathroom rug that got a heavy dose !!!!

of Polar Brown, but it washed out!

[The Knize]

I guess you can take solace in the fact that it's a cheap dress shirt. :001_rolle On the plus side, maybe all that polyester can help make the ink slightly less bulletproof?

There is no polyester in any dress shirt I own!

And would that this was a "cheap dress" shirt. This would never happen if I were wearing a shirt from Costco or even an old well-worn shirt, I had gotten my use out of, right?

This one was fairly new of more or less middle range in price. Thanks goodness it was not one of my Thomas Pink shirts, or even one of my Brooks Brothers shirts.

I suppose if I am going to have anything to do with a fountain pen on a particular day, I should be wearing Costco! I cannot see wearing a polyester dress shirt no matter what!

[The Nid Hog]

Chris the B&B ink is more than alive!
I am happy to say that I have a sample and it is very pleasant to use.
We anticipate that we will be having an announcement very soon.

Thanks Jim! That's great news--I'll definitely hold off.


<but I'm going to need to replenish my supplies sometime before September. >

Really! Just as is true as to scents, I cannot imagine, given the stock I have of them, ever running out of fp ink!

I guess I can imagine running out of my favorites.

For me, it depends on how much writing I'm doing and what I'm writing with. Often I don't travel with fountain pens: under unfavorable conditions, I'll write with a pencil or maybe some kind of specialized pens. This summer I decided to go with just fountain pens, so I'm burning through a lot of ink. I'll also be doing a lot of writing when I get home.

Honestly fountain pens are not one of my things that I collect. I see them in a more utilitarian light--they're tools. But, like a good watch, I want them to be effective, reliable and pleasant to use. I also have a bit of a superstition too. When I'm working on a project, I don't like to change color or what I'm writing on. So what I start with, I want to finish with. If I can have a nice supply of B&B ink to do that, that'll be great.

[LuckyR]

It is pretty easy to get Noodlers Bulletproof stains off of cotton/linen shirts. First get a pair of scissors...

[The Nid Hog]

I meant to post this before but, at my haberdasher's suggestion, I picked up a couple of shirts for traveling that he insists won't stain. They're also no iron, something that I don't actually care for in a shirt. However, he said that high temperature cleaning will damage the fabric treatment that makes them stain resistant in the first place. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the company is "Andrew J." The selection he had came in a number of conservative colors and maybe a pattern--I didn't look that far. I just got two white with French cuffs. As I recall, they were $85. I don't have them with me or I'd check, but I want to say that--apartment from the resin that they're treated with--they're 100% cotton. He's normally a very quiet, Southern gentleman and the only other time I've seen him get excited is when he shows me a new tie or handkerchief that features Carolina blue in it. But he was very enthusiastic about these shirts, saying that several of his customers have told him stories about easily removing jam, wine and...(the point of my story)...ink! I haven't spilled anything on them yet, but the white has remained sharp after a number of washings.

[The Knize]

I meant to post this before but, at my haberdasher's suggestion, I picked up a couple of shirts for traveling that he insists won't stain. They're also no iron, something that I don't actually care for in a shirt. However, he said that high temperature cleaning will damage the fabric treatment that makes them stain resistant in the first place. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the company is "Andrew J." The selection he had came in a number of conservative colors and maybe a pattern--I didn't look that far. I just got two white with French cuffs. As I recall, they were $85. I don't have them with me or I'd check, but I want to say that--apartment from the resin that they're treated with--they're 100% cotton. He's normally a very quiet, Southern gentleman and the only other time I've seen him get excited is when he shows me a new tie or handkerchief that features Carolina blue in it. But he was very enthusiastic about these shirts, saying that several of his customers have told him stories about easily removing jam, wine and...(the point of my story)...ink! I haven't spilled anything on them yet, but the white has remained sharp after a number of washings.

Given my general clumsiness, sounds like something I should be looking into!

The white staying sharp after a number of washings is a plus, too. Does anyone else find that professionally laundered white shirts, as most of mine are, never seem again as sparkling white as they were when they came out of the original package brand new?

One thing I like about the all cotton non-iron shirts (well the ones that have good non-iron properties which varies hugely from brand to brand) is that I can add "bluing" to the rinse cycle. Seems to make a big difference is how white the white looks!

[The Knize]

Thanks Jim! That's great news--I'll definitely hold off.



For me, it depends on how much writing I'm doing and what I'm writing with. Often I don't travel with fountain pens: under unfavorable conditions, I'll write with a pencil or maybe some kind of specialized pens. This summer I decided to go with just fountain pens, so I'm burning through a lot of ink. I'll also be doing a lot of writing when I get home.

Honestly fountain pens are not one of my things that I collect. I see them in a more utilitarian light--they're tools. But, like a good watch, I want them to be effective, reliable and pleasant to use. I also have a bit of a superstition too. When I'm working on a project, I don't like to change color or what I'm writing on. So what I start with, I want to finish with. If I can have a nice supply of B&B ink to do that, that'll be great.

Wow, ever think about getting one of those computer things with what they call "word processing" software? I hear they even make them sort of portable these days! :001_smile:001_smile Might save some arthritis in one's hands for one thing. That is a lot of writing. It has been decades since I wrote very much at all in my own hand rather than on a computer.

<Honestly fountain pens are not one of my things that I collect. I see them in a more utilitarian light--they're tools. But, like a good watch, I want them to be effective, reliable and pleasant to use.>

Me, too. Although I find that the better pens have less trouble with leakage, start up each time more consistently, do not skip, and that type of things. I do not like light fps, and the less expensive good branded pens seem to be very light.

I do like the amazingly inexpensive, good-looking, heavy Chinese fps in a broad nib. They are far from reliable, have some leakage problems I guess, can skip sometimes, and rarely startup again well after they have been put away even for a day. But I think they write pretty nicely when they do not skip, and the feel good in my hand. But I really do not feel the urge to collect fps for their looks or anything much like that, either.

[Rudy Vey]

Great idea! Maybe I can even keep double cuffs!:001_smile

Actually, I wonder if a tailr could not simply make the inside of the double cuff the outside and thus hide the ink spot on the inside. Not a bad idea perhaps.

...maybe even French Cuffs.....imagine these on a short sleeve shirt with some nice bling cuff links:001_tt2:

[The Nid Hog]

Wow, ever think about getting one of those computer things with what they call "word processing" software? I hear they even make them sort of portable these days! :001_smile:001_smile Might save some arthritis in one's hands for one thing. That is a lot of writing. It has been decades since I wrote very much at all in my own hand rather than on a computer.

I vary a lot on how I do things. But I always have to make notes while I'm working, and I haven't found any electronic gear that will work to my satisfaction. So far, the notebook seems to work best. Then I transcribe all my notes to my laptop in the evening. If I'm writing something long, I tend to go back and forth between my laptop and a legal pad.

[The Knize]

<does anyone have any ideas for getting a dried spot of Noodler's bullet proof ink off the cuff of a dress shirt?

Have been able to get such ink out of shirt fabric if I got to it before it dried, but somehow I overlooked this one. No idea how it got there, of course.>

Wanted to report back that I cannot blame Noodler's bullet proof inks for this one. The black impenetrible inkl like stain on two of my shirts turned up to be the black latex-type rubber part of the dropper in my EO bottle of scent from Nancy Boy, which had tipped over in the console of my car, so that that rubber was liquified by the EO (who would have thought!) and made the worst, stickiest, most staining substance I have ever come across. The worst is that it was invisible in the flat black console interrior. And, "no," I was never able to get it out of my shirts.

I am going to try some acetone though, if I can find any around the house. I suppose fingernail polish remover is ofter mostly acetone! This stuff was truly the worst.

[ouch]

So I joined fountain pen network- anyone here a member?

[Sullybob]

So I joined fountain pen network- anyone here a member?

I am. I have about 11 posts over there. I've been a member since 09 :lol::lol:

[instpasr]

I'm a member I have exactly 0 posts, I just haven't had the time to spend over there, I much prefer B&B

[Jim]

2-3 posts maybe, why bother, we have Brian here.

[instpasr]

2-3 posts maybe, why bother, we have Brian here.

Thank you thank you very much (insert Elvis impersonation here)

[The Knize]

So I joined fountain pen network- anyone here a member?

I am a member, too. I do not know if I have ever posted and I do not hang around that forum much. I am glad it is there, though.

It is the first place I looked, over the weekend,to figure out how to replacement an ink sac in an Esterbrook.

[craig87c]

I'm a member I have exactly 0 posts, I just haven't had the time to spend over there, I much prefer B&B

For reasons I won't name here, I only go on FPN to search the few things I can't find about FPs on here.


2-3 posts maybe, why bother, we have Brian here.

Only on B&B is this a good thing :lol:

[brianw]

yup....but not there that much

[bassopotamus]

So I joined fountain pen network- anyone here a member?

Yes, under the same user name. don't go there much anymore though. It is really repetitive.

[Jaybh1974]

I'm a member of FPN, with a whopping 12 posts. I dont post much over there becuase I dont have much to add. I use FPN as a reference guide for choosing my pens.

[ouch]

For reasons I won't name here, I only go on FPN to search the few things I can't find about FPs on here.

Ah ha! So you're the guy who started all of those ink wars.

[Sueto]

I have had some luck getting ink stains out with Oxyclean. It didn't seem to have any harsh affects on the fabric at all. I soaked the stained portion in plain water for a bit. Then I added the oxyclean to make a concentrated solution to soak the stain in. I let it soak over night, rinsed and washed.

[DavyRay]

I joined FPN a couple of years ago. I wanted a decent fountain pen or two, cheap. I vacuumed up all the information I needed, bought a small number of pens off ebay, and ended up with two good, working pens, and several good candidates for replacement sacs. I, like Nid, don't really collect these. I may repair one or two of the others, eventually. For now though, I am set. I have not bought more pens for a long time.

[craig87c]

Ah ha! So you're the guy who started all of those ink wars.

I have the stained hands and shirts to prove it. Lou and Brian will attest to this :laugh:

[txinsk]

I like Noodler's ink. Yes, it binds cellulose which means it will not leave cotton, however, if the shirt is synthetic then try some more. At one time the maker of Noodler's ink, Nathan Tardiff, offered a prize, $1,000 I think, if you could remove it. It turns out that you can remove the bulletproof dyes, if you have an infrared laser. (A common household appliance if there ever was one.) This is why he came out with his warden series of inks. All that being said, buying some new shirts will likely be cheaper than the infrared laser...

Rick

[csmorris]

So I joined fountain pen network- anyone here a member?

I joined there before I joined here, but far less involved there.

Same name as well.