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CHEEZgr8trH8tr
03-19-2011, 05:11 PM
introduce myself! I have been lurking on these forums for nearly a year now, and only now decided to register after finally putting together what I hope will become a decent wet shave set.

I have always used cartridges and electrics. In fact I bought an electric panasonic and returned it without even opening it after I tried my first wetshave!

What I ended up with was:

Merkur 38C
proraso pre/post shave cream
proraso soap (white tub, for ultra sensetive)
proraso balm.

I wanted to get a nice nice brush, but I am alas a broke college student. So I got a badger brush but definitely on the low end, a 20 something dollar parker "pure badger" grade brush. It works, and it's better than my dad's old synthetic I tried.

I have to say, I NEVER got a close shave with my sensor excel. It was close, but it looked like I had a 5 oclock shadow... all the time. My beard decently tough, and grows like a maniac. Shaving every morning is MANDATORY for me. Another thing that made wet shaving difficult was my grain. My beard is thick... but splotchy. No... coherent patterns to the grain. Think... hay stack instead of rows of corn lol.

It's still hard to get curvature right, especially over my chin. I do love the HD though, the weight helps. I find it really hard to break my old habits, but I've only shaved twice so far. It's hard not to press the blade, and not to pivot your wrist. Also, shaving ATG with this thing is ... tough. I have never been able to on my face, only on my neck.

I am using the standard murker blade, but I got like 120 for 35 bucks from amazon, a sampler pack.

Anyhow, the after - shaving feeling was phenomenal. Definitely closer, not as close as I would like though ( but I am positive that's my technique faltering), no burning or irritation though. Proraso is awesome.

Some people say switching to DE shaving is life changing, others say it's over rated. I think a lot depends on how satisfied you are with your current shaving situation, and how bad of a situation you have accommodated. Ripping my hair out with sensors, quattros, mach 3's, every morning and having a DRY TIGHT ITCHY face afterwards sucks for a decade. Can't wait for my face to adjust and my technique to improve!

Some questions:

On my chin, I can't get it flat! And I'm afraid I'm doing to many passes across it because well on each stroke it only takes off a narrow strip of hair!

Also, can I leave the blade in rubbing alchohol when it's not being used? I rinsed and air dried with rubbing alchohol after the first use, but I noticed a significant reduction in sharpness with the Merkur blade after the first use (which was about 3 passes n some touchups). Granted, I let me beard grow out for like 12 days to see how well it could cut through it. But 12 days of my beard growth is like 3 or 4 weeks of non hairy monster man face growth.

Also, touching up is hard because I have very fair skin even though I'm not white, but my facial hair is black hole black and patches show like a sore spot.

Any advice, opinions, comments or helpful anythings?

This forum rules.

My face shall never burn at 7AM again.:thumbup1:

The first shave I enjoyed a nice long prep. A hot shower, a hot towel, the proraso pre, and then the lather, and when I took that first stroke I wasn't sure if it was cutting or not because I couldn't feel ANYTHING. It was amazing. Second day I was rushed for time. So a warm face wash/exfoliating, the pre, and the usual. It was more nicks and cuts, but I think that's because.... I was really enthusiastic and even though it was the next morning it had been less than 24 hours since my previous shave so I was... trying to shave hairs that had not arrived yet ! But.. I understand now why people say they look FORWARD to shaving now. It's refreshing, and your face feels great!

CSL
03-19-2011, 05:22 PM
On my chin, I can't get it flat! And I'm afraid I'm doing to many passes across it because well on each stroke it only takes off a narrow strip of hair!

Don't worry, the narrow strip thing/multiple strokes thing is normal. I do two things to get that area clean;

1, press your lips together, push air into the pocket under your bottom lip so it puffs out & becomes round. Hit that area from a few different angles until you find what works.

2, Stretch out the chin skin by making a tight smile/grimace type face. This will make the hair stand out on the lower part of your chin. Again, hit it from a few different angles until you find what works best.

Of course, keep the pressure as light as possible.

mblakele
03-19-2011, 05:22 PM
Welcome to B&B!

Greyfox
03-19-2011, 06:07 PM
Welcome to B&B. Glad you joined. Enjoy yourself.:001_smile

Zephyr
03-19-2011, 06:10 PM
Welcome to B&B!

dpmtherrien
03-19-2011, 06:15 PM
Welcome to the B. Good to have you with us. :001_rolle :thumbup1:

katz
03-19-2011, 06:26 PM
Welcome aboard! :001_smile

Eric V
03-19-2011, 10:34 PM
Welcome to the B.

Short strokes may make for easier shaving on your chin. Eliminate the ATG. Your technic will improve more rapidly with WTG XTHG XTG

12 days of growth! Yikes. I'd have a beard in that time!

Rawmax
03-19-2011, 10:49 PM
Welcome to B&B! Good to have you here!

rm71
03-20-2011, 01:57 AM
Welcome mate!

franstjohn
03-20-2011, 03:41 AM
Welcome!

ackvil
03-20-2011, 05:16 AM
Welcome to B&B. Glad you finally "de-lurked."

Optometrist
03-20-2011, 05:24 AM
Welcome to B&B!:thumbup1:

HyperCamper
03-20-2011, 05:34 AM
Welcome to B&B! Have fun! :)

NickCutlip
03-20-2011, 06:15 AM
Welcome to B&B !!

mretzloff
03-20-2011, 06:16 AM
Welcome to Badger & Blade!

btuer60
03-20-2011, 06:29 AM
Welcome!!!!

Chopping down 12 days worth of growth is tough - I am actually impressed that you got a good shave while trying to remove that much beard - especially since it was your first shave.

I'm not surprised your blade was getting dull after removing that much - you will probably be able to get more than one shave out of a razor if you are shaving more regularly. Blade life varies a lot from person to person with the average probably being around 3-4 shaves (some replace a blade every shave, others can get a week or more out of one). IMO there is no need to do anything special to 'store' your blade after use. A good rinse and let it air dry in the razor.

Sledgehammer39
03-20-2011, 06:38 AM
Welcome Aboard..

CHEEZgr8trH8tr
03-24-2011, 01:08 AM
Hey guys. I appreciate all the welcomes. It's been about a week since I started, or about 5 shaves. So far so good. I'm still learning the contours of my face better, how to improve my technique to avoid curves, etc. Bad habits are breaking as well (SHORT STROKES! SHORT!!), and I'm trying to learn this ambidextrously from the beginning. It's had to shave the left side with the right hand without flapping your wrist around. I've actually gone from shaving daily to shaving every other day because my shave is so smooth my 24 hour growth is minimal. My first blade I used was the murker that came with my new 38c. It definitely dulled out over the week, but it ate up a wicked bear on it's first time out! It lasted about 18-20 passes over 5 shaves, but I definitely felt some pulling and skipping on my ATG pass today. I have a sample pack and will pick a blade at random to try next week and use the Merkur blade as my baseline for a week long shave. I think I'm going to try either the derby's or astras.

2 quick questions:

The wiki says that when the blade bevels/edges are shiny the blade is 'used'. Is this true? Why is this?

My next question is about my skin. It seems the first few days were harshest. I used proraso liquid creme aftershave and it is AMAZING. Keeps my face moisturized, and after a week of DE shaving my face looks brighter and healthier. Is this because of the shaving? After the first day or two I had tight dry patches, flaking skin, blemishes, razor bumps, etc. But over the course of the next few shaves it seems as if my face actually got smoother, while I still have some bumps and blemishes it seems like my skin is getting healthier from the frequent close shaving - less discoloration, softer, no dry / need to be exfoliated patches etc. I just kept to the same routine and applied the proraso balm periodically (even when not shaving) to keep the skin nice and moisturized. Is my experience unique and/or have nothing to do with the shaving, or is this part of the process , like my face getting used to it or something and responding better to the higher quality products I'm putting on my face more frequently (who knew shaving would go from being a chore to a hobby I look forward to!).

Anyhow, I can see how practice makes perfect. My progress after a week has been great. Barely any cuts or nicks the 5th time around, a nice almost BBS (still working on how to most efficiently tackle certain problem areas) shave after a standard 3-4 pass shave, and I can shave ATG now, albeit slowly (I think that has some to do with my merkur blade getting dull). None the less it's an improvement - I couldn't shave ATG at all before! I'm looking forward to seeing what my face looks and feels like after a month!

I know I'm bumping them a lot, but for those other newbies who have sensitive or not-so-healthy skin right now, the proraso products are heaven on your face! Maybe a year from now I'll buy that 39c... in the mean time I need to annex a nice scuttle and a bigger brush... mmm money pit!

franz
03-24-2011, 01:27 AM
Sounds like you are making serious progress. Good to hear!

At some point in your learning curve, you may push too hard and end up with "that" shave: weepers, nicks, lots of irritation. If and when you have a setback, the important thing is to pay attention to the different aspects of your shave (prep, blade angle, lather quality, etc.) and learn from your mistakes. DE shaving gives lots of feedback that way -- sometimes too much! :w00t:

And yes, it's a money pit. :biggrin1:

rambooze
03-24-2011, 02:20 AM
[QUOTE=CHEEZgr8trH8tr;2946511]
On my chin, I can't get it flat! And I'm afraid I'm doing to many passes across it because well on each stroke it only takes off a narrow strip of hair!

[QUOTE]
welcome to the battle zone, thats also my biggest enemy:biggrin1:


[QUOTE=CHEEZgr8trH8tr;2946511]

This forum rules.
My face shall never burn at 7AM again.:thumbup1:

[QUOTE]

welcome to b&b:thumbup1:

The Count of Merkur Cristo
03-25-2011, 10:48 AM
CHEEZgr8trH8tr:
Ah-ha...Mmm-hmm!!!. So that's were you've been hiding for over a year...lurking have you now? But that's OK because you're with us now (another one comes out from the mist). :lol1:

Anyway, welcome to the B & B (besides being enrolled in the fictional, sacred and utopian Order of Shavedom). Please feel free to come up to the sun deck 'sit-a-spell' and thank you for dis-engaging you're 'lurking device'.

Glad you pulled the 'trigger' :2guns:and took the plunge (good riddance to those crappy carts/disposables..."Away with them I say...Away!!!"), and yes...this Forum has the knowledge, ideas, and alround 'know-how' to assist in your Wet-Shaving experience. In a nut-shell...your 'gonna' love it here.

It is very wise and 'sage' advice to get a Razor Blade Sampler to see what blade is a good fit (mild, moderate & aggressive, ect...), for your face and Razor. By the way, I happen to like Feathers, Kai's, Treets, Trig, Shark Chrome, Derby's and Gillette 7 O'clock just to name a few with my DE Merkur's 23C & 38C razors.

"Merkur; Solingen quality, Time-tested Tradition with Modern Design".

When you receive (should you decide to do so), your blade Sampler, my advice is to try 2,3,4 or 5 blades (however which amount per blade brand), before moving on to the next blade.

Also, when I received my DE Sampler, I started a Thread entitled "In what Order should I test these Sampler Razor Blades?", and the best advice was from member Optometrist a.k.a David who stated;

"I say jump straight in with the feathers. Yes, they are sharp, but you learn very quickly to let the weight of the razor do the work for you. If you can get the feather right, then it's plain sailing with the others. A few nicks and cuts early on are nothing to worry about and stand you in good stead. Start with a lesser blade and it's a continual learning process as you step up the level of sharpness". :yesnod:

Also, member Npsarros stated, "Keep a spreadsheet with every shave [you], have taken, rating each blade as [you], go along". My spread data ratings reads in columns as thus (PM me and I will send you my workable spread sheet example to your e-mail address.);

Razor Blade / Country / Type - Sharpness? (Aggressive [Very Sharp], Moderate Sharpness or Mild Sharpness), - Closeness of Shave? - Smoothness/Roughness of Shave? - Comfort of Shave? - Overall Rating? (awesome, passable or unpleasant), and Compatible with your Razor(s)?

Enclose below is my Thread and member Posted Replies "In what Order should I test these Sampler Razor Blades?", which may be of some interest and help to you.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=180210&highlight=order

The "Wet Shaving Instructions and Tutorials"

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=71700

Although, you may not be additted yet (I think I'm holding up fairly well...with a few exceptions), because we all suffer (gladly and are doomed perhaps :laugh:), from this shaving complusion (and other Acquisition Disorders), because at times..."Resistance is futile". http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-alien003.gif

Please don't forget once you get time....please tell all of us a little about yourself in the Hall of Fame sub-forum.

Christopher http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh206/SerraTijn/smileys/smiley_shaving.gif "Life is [like] a razor, you are always in hot water or a scrape" Anonymous

Attached Image...a.k.a. The Lurking Device

mandoman
03-25-2011, 10:50 AM
Welcome to B&B :thumbup:

Edward 1689er
03-28-2011, 07:44 PM
Welcome!