View Full Version : Too much "conversation" in FS/FT forum
mjsorkin
05-07-2007, 10:41 AM
Gentlemen,
It seems to me that the only appropriate replies for a FS/FT post should fall into one of two categories. The post should express serious interest in the item. A question may be asked about the item. A lot of people are posting replies that have nothing to do with the above two. People post in the FS/FT topics just as if they are normal discussion topics. It is clogging up the forum with extra posts, and makes it more effort to check if an item has sold.
-----Michael
chop-chop
05-07-2007, 11:08 AM
While this is a reasonable request, monitoring would require constant attention, despite the sticky at the top of the B/S/T Forum page. Please keep in mind that our moderators are volunteering their time, for our benefit.
As a courtesy to other members, a "PM Sent" post is appropriate... as is a reply from the seller, if the PM did not result in the sale of said item(s). Many items are sold the minutes from the time that they are listed. A "Sold" post does help to limit activity, as well.
Additionally, we have to give new members the opportunity to learn the ropes. With a growth rate of roughly 50 new members per week... on average... that tends to complicate things even more.
If you have a concrete solution to handle this, I'm sure that the moderator team would be willing to consider your thoughts. Since "Ouch" is the moderator for the B/S/T Forum, sending a PM to him is the appropriate chain of command to follow.
Tchau,
chop-chop
android
05-07-2007, 12:37 PM
Respectfully, I disagree (irony now ensues, as this is now a conversation thread).
I like the conversation. That's why I hang out on B&B. And often the conversations in FS are very helpful for future buying choices. I'm of the school that too much freedom is better than not enough.
"Conversation" comes in many forms, as does one's perception of its usefullness.
Members will tend to comment on anything they find interesting. They may point out a price that is way out of whack (or, for that matter, particularly appealing), or offer encouragement to a seller whose item seems to be languishing in limbo. I don't think that comments such as "boy, that Maestro sure is purdy" or "wish that 195 wasn't out of my league" detract from the nature of the forum too much.
Remember, we're not ebay. The shave mall is just a place for likeminded individuals to get together and see what they can hammer out amongst themselves. It's for the enjoyment of all our members, including those who just want to participate vicariously.
All things considered, I think things go remarkably well there- how many complaints do you hear of? That's a testament to the character of the folks involved.
moses
05-10-2007, 09:30 AM
Well, the final word is Jay's, and he's had it, so I don't know what I'm doing here. Proving the point that we just plain WILL chat, I guess. But I'd just like to say I find the discussions that take place from time to time in the buy/sell/trade forum pretty harmless, and generally entertaining. Yes, it may take a couple of moments to determine if something you are interested in has sold. But I'll trade that for and interesting conversation any day. And generally Sellers are kind enough to mark SOLD prominently in the original post, anyway, which solves any downside.
-Mo
BrianP
05-10-2007, 10:13 AM
Is it possible to edit the subject line that appears on the thread page to reflect "sold"?
eg.
Original thread: FS/T Foo
Edited thread: FS/T Foo - *SOLD*
Saves from bumping a thread to close a transaction at the expense of open/active transactions.
My apologies if this has been raised in the past.
b.
Jodanster
05-10-2007, 02:27 PM
"Conversation" comes in many forms, as does one's perception of its usefullness.
Members will tend to comment on anything they find interesting. They may point out a price that is way out of whack (or, for that matter, particularly appealing), or offer encouragement to a seller whose item seems to be languishing in limbo. I don't think that comments such as "boy, that Maestro sure is purdy" or "wish that 195 wasn't out of my league" detract from the nature of the forum too much.
Remember, we're not ebay. The shave mall is just a place for likeminded individuals to get together and see what they can hammer out amongst themselves. It's for the enjoyment of all our members, including those who just want to participate vicariously.
All things considered, I think things go remarkably well there- how many complaints do you hear of? That's a testament to the character of the folks involved.
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Well, the final word is Jay's, and he's had it,
-Mo
Hate to disagree, Mo, but the final word is yours.
If I thought (or became convinced) that the members wanted things run in a specific manner, I'd want them to get their way. The forum is for the members, and nobody knows better than they do. I certainly don't.
In this instance, I see more people adding commentary than complaining of same, at this time, at least.
jazzman
05-10-2007, 05:57 PM
Hate to disagree, Mo, but the final word is yours.
If I thought (or became convinced) that the members wanted things run in a specific manner, I'd want them to get their way. The forum is for the members, and nobody knows better than they do. I certainly don't.
In this instance, I see more people adding commentary than complaining of same, at this time, at least.
You'll never be promoted to dictator with that kind of attitude.
I would think there might be room to dis agree!
DoubleE
05-10-2007, 06:11 PM
Is it possible to edit the subject line that appears on the thread page to reflect "sold"?
eg.
Original thread: FS/T Foo
Edited thread: FS/T Foo - *SOLD*
Saves from bumping a thread to close a transaction at the expense of open/active transactions.
My apologies if this has been raised in the past.
b.
Brian:
I wish you could but currently you can not, only the forum moderator can.
Mottern Man
05-10-2007, 06:30 PM
Brian:
I wish you could but currently you can not, only the forum moderator can.
Well you need to keep Mr. Ouch employed. :biggrin1:
Well you need to keep Mr. Ouch employed. :biggrin1:
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/image.php?u=259&dateline=1177443210 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pV2c4OmOqI) He's Busy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pV2c4OmOqI)
When have I ever refused an accommodation?
moses
05-10-2007, 07:28 PM
When have I ever refused an accommodation?
Fuhgetaboutit...
-Mo
Capo Supremo
Well, the final word is Jay's, and he's had it, so I don't know what I'm doing here. Proving the point that we just plain WILL chat, I guess. But I'd just like to say I find the discussions that take place from time to time in the buy/sell/trade forum pretty harmless, and generally entertaining. Yes, it may take a couple of moments to determine if something you are interested in has sold. But I'll trade that for and interesting conversation any day. And generally Sellers are kind enough to mark SOLD prominently in the original post, anyway, which solves any downside.
-Mo
x2
guenron
05-12-2007, 03:05 PM
Gentlemen,
It seems to me that the only appropriate replies for a FS/FT post should fall into one of two categories. The post should express serious interest in the item. A question may be asked about the item. A lot of people are posting replies that have nothing to do with the above two. People post in the FS/FT topics just as if they are normal discussion topics. It is clogging up the forum with extra posts, and makes it more effort to check if an item has sold.
-----Michael
Michael,
While I agree that the "BS" detracts from the principle purpose of the for sale/trade forum, remember this is about feel good. You see a great deal of this all over B&B, many feel good posts that provide nothing more than that feel good feeling. Though these posts really detract from the information value of many of the threads, the camaraderie they promote has some value too.
The best thing is when the sellers edit the first post with a prominent
SOLD when something has actually sold. Or we could have a massive make-work project for Ouch and he can move all the threads to a new forum once the items in the threads are sold. :scared: Methinks not.
vincentl
05-13-2007, 04:47 PM
... we could have a massive make-work project for Ouch and he can move all the threads to a new forum once the items in the threads are sold. :scared: Methinks not.
+1
He spends way too much time watching family guy and not enough time on B&B :001_tt2: :biggrin:
Michael,
While I agree that the "BS" detracts from the principle purpose of the for sale/trade forum, remember this is about feel good. You see a great deal of this all over B&B, many feel good posts that provide nothing more than that feel good feeling. Though these posts really detract from the information value of many of the threads, the camaraderie they promote has some value too.
Thank you comrade, I feel good!
guenron
05-13-2007, 10:24 PM
Thank you comrade, I feel good!
Ah! You must be the commissar of cameraderie!:laugh:
TimmyBoston
05-15-2007, 03:05 AM
I think there's far too much conversation in this thread.
:biggrin:
paydepst
05-15-2007, 03:31 AM
Brian:
I wish you could but currently you can not, only the forum moderator can.
Wait..wait Jerry! I have it! I have it!! Is there a lightbulb above my head? Is there?!?
Make us all MODERATORS!!
No applause please just throw money, cased 195s, and Le Essor Supremes! Thank you, thank you!!
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Ah! You must be the commissar of cameraderie!:laugh:
Ahhh Commiseration
I think there's far too much conversation in this thread.
:biggrin:
Why do you feel that way Tim?
Antique Hoosier
05-15-2007, 08:28 AM
Why do you feel that way Tim?
We could be here awhile.....
Stoop reepreesing your FEElings,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg/178px-Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg)
rtaylor61
05-15-2007, 11:04 PM
"It's all fun and games until someone gets an eye put out."
Let's not take ourselves too seriously here. This is a forum about shaving. It is about sharing ideas, products and having fun. There is going to be a certain amount of b.s. going on in any forum and in any thread. And yes, I know I am a culprit. But if we can't have fun...there is not point in being here. Yes, sometimes the banter gets in the way, but imagine the forum without ANY of the conversation. We would not be Badger & Blade. We would be Funk & Wagnalls.
Randy
"It's all fun and games until someone gets an eye put out."
Let's not take ourselves too seriously here. This is a forum about shaving. It is about sharing ideas, products and having fun. There is going to be a certain amount of b.s. going on in any forum and in any thread. And yes, I know I am a culprit. But if we can't have fun...there is not point in being here. Yes, sometimes the banter gets in the way, but imagine the forum without ANY of the conversation. We would not be Badger & Blade. We would be Funk & Wagnalls.
Randy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg/178px-Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg)Have YOu haad theese feeling Loong?
rtaylor61
05-15-2007, 11:23 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg/178px-Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg)Have YOu haad theese feeling Loong?
Yep! Otherwise, I would have been gone a long time ago!
Randy
Yep! Otherwise, I would have been gone a long time ago!
Randy
Ahhh...I seeee
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg/178px-Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sigmund_Freud-loc.jpg)
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