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neostyles
01-25-2011, 03:01 PM
See this paper (http://nvl.nist.gov/pub/nistpubs/jres/105/6/j56nbr.pdf) from the national institute of standards and technology (look at page 924-925.) This seems a little like something from a science fiction flick, but it could become reality faster than you think. Frankl, I think it would be awesome to only have to shave every few weeks.

Would you shave this way if all you had to do was run a laser of some sort over your face for a few mintute?

BBrad
01-25-2011, 03:12 PM
Uh . . . . . No sir, I don't like it! :closedeye

tvldatsi
01-25-2011, 03:16 PM
no.

damooshki
01-25-2011, 03:20 PM
NO SHAVING FOR WEEKS!?!?!?:confused1:mad3: I just shaved this morning, and I'm already looking forward to tomorrow's shave! I actually enjoy shaving now. This might be nice for those who see shaving as a chore.

BladeRunner001
01-25-2011, 03:21 PM
Worse idea in the history of bad ideas :mad3:.

I enjoy shaving too much...Rather be dead than voluntarily choose not to shave for weeks

The Count of Merkur Cristo
01-25-2011, 03:22 PM
Not me...because it would take away all the fun and joy of being a Wet-Shaver and a B & B member. :lol:

Christopher http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh206/SerraTijn/smileys/smiley_shaving.gif

franstjohn
01-25-2011, 03:30 PM
Progress...Isn't this how we got cartridge shaving?

onadraw
01-25-2011, 03:31 PM
Worse idea in the history of bad ideas :mad3:.

I enjoy shaving too much...Rather be dead than voluntarily choose not to shave for weeks

That seems a little harsh. I get what you're saying but I think I could go without shaving if the alternative was a Dirt-Nap.

hometownhero
01-25-2011, 03:34 PM
Put me down for a NO as well.

Hawkeyeted
01-25-2011, 03:47 PM
Frankl, [sic] I think it would be awesome to only have to shave every few weeks.

BLASPHEMY! :mad3:

ShavinBacon
01-25-2011, 04:15 PM
B & L just doesn't roll off the tongue like B & B!

I love the end of the article where it says a publication with Gillette will be result. How would Gillette make a profit if you didn't have to shave for weeks. Replaceable laser heads?

Or maybe sharks with lasers attached to their heads...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh5Lh-tTSZQ

jkingrph
01-25-2011, 04:21 PM
Negative.

I want nothing to to with that high energy electromagnetic energy directed on my face every couple of months.

Too much sunlight can cause cancer, what about that?? Super melanoma!!

rm71
01-25-2011, 04:23 PM
No thank you!

jgkeegan
01-25-2011, 04:24 PM
See this paper (http://nvl.nist.gov/pub/nistpubs/jres/105/6/j56nbr.pdf) from the national institute of standards and technology (look at page 924-925.) This seems a little like something from a science fiction flick, but it could become reality faster than you think. Frankl, I think it would be awesome to only have to shave every few weeks.

Would you shave this way if all you had to do was run a laser of some sort over your face for a few mintute?


ugh. disgusting.

--james

Mr. Scruffy
01-25-2011, 04:31 PM
Don't sweat it, fellas.

The NIST is conducting this study in collaboration with Gillette.

Do you really think Gillette will promote a technology that could reduce cartridge sales by as much as 95%? Not hardly.

Dustinl
01-25-2011, 04:41 PM
This isn't anything to lose sleep over anytime soon. First of all, look at the influx of new converts joining Badger & Blade. People are finding out about traditional wet shaving.
Secondly as Mr. Scruffy said, why would Gillette be interested in hurting their sales?

DL

California Cajun
01-25-2011, 04:43 PM
You'd think with all this technology they'd learn how to move the hair from places it isn't wanted to places where it is wanted. :wheelchair:

Dustinl
01-25-2011, 04:47 PM
You'd think with all this technology they'd learn how to move the hair from places it isn't wanted to places where it is wanted. :wheelchair:

I could definately use some of that action!!!!:lol:

In all seriousness, I think the future of shaving lies with traditional wet shaving.


DL

Spytaco
01-25-2011, 04:49 PM
Frankly, I think it would be awesome to only have to shave every few weeks.

Good Gracious. Why would you only want to shave every few weeks? :confused1:blink::scared::frown2:

That goes against what Badger and Blade is all about,

the pampered gentleman. :thumbup::badger::ladysman::euro:

umm_bacon
01-25-2011, 04:50 PM
Many people would jump on that; Gillette LRasers (if they chose that name in 20 years, I want royalties) with batteries that last for a single "shave" that cost $15 or so. If the technology got to where they could sell those for less than $20, of course folks would say yes. Probably not many on here. That is like asking members of SADD or MADD, "who wants to go drive around and drink?" No self-respecting wet shaver would ever admit to giving up for this, but I think that even the uber health conscious and techno-phobes aside, Gillette would have a huge market to sell to. Most people hate shaving. A product that is sold by the new "Young Guns" which means you only have to save once or twice a month, heck yeah! I just wish I could hitch my bandwagon to that gravy train. I would probably never use it, but I would gladly watch it fly off the shelves.

mmack66
01-25-2011, 04:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f16kR-dtO7o

Elecid
01-25-2011, 04:54 PM
Sounds expensive, painful, and probably dangerous because it wouldn't go through the long-term testing necessary to ascertain its effects.

gil3591
01-25-2011, 04:54 PM
shaving is fun, why limit it? once a day is bad enough

kg4ghn
01-25-2011, 05:20 PM
I'll keep using my straights, thank you very much.

Bruce Wayne
01-25-2011, 05:48 PM
Superman already shaves this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwNqVNmqQfY&feature=player_detailpage

tvldatsi
01-25-2011, 05:58 PM
it didn't take much to convert me, and I've spread the good word to two friends who are currently developing baby ADs. I also see a lot of people on here too that switched just because they wanted to, I probably never would've made it this far if I got great shaves from carts, but it's cool that people just want to do it




This isn't anything to lose sleep over anytime soon. First of all, look at the influx of new converts joining Badger & Blade. People are finding out about traditional wet shaving.

binowatch
01-25-2011, 06:12 PM
what is ironic here is the use of low power laser to stimulate hair growth. I think the real danger is the ever increasing number of metrosexual, hypogonadal, useless, styleless, clueless males in the US. I am an old fart! Just an old fart's cynical mood observation.

davros
01-25-2011, 06:16 PM
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, isn't this the kind of research that companies like Gillette sponsor so that they own and hence can suppress the technology? a la the apocryphal but plausible stories about longer-lasting lightbulbs and record player needles that never saw the light of day.

Hawkeyeted
01-25-2011, 06:22 PM
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, isn't this the kind of research that companies like Gillette sponsor so that they own and hence can suppress the technology? a la the apocryphal but plausible stories about longer-lasting lightbulbs and record player needles that never saw the light of day.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's called "Planned Obsolescence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence)".

Mercer
01-25-2011, 07:02 PM
I'll wait till the vibrating 6-laser model.

ZJ68
01-25-2011, 07:07 PM
a la the apocryphal but plausible stories about longer-lasting lightbulbs and record player needles that never saw the light of day.
Both of those things did see the light of day. CFL and LED light bulbs (fluorescent lights that last much longer than incandescent have been around forever) were developed and marketed. Compact discs and digital music eliminated the record player needle.

Crawford Montizano
01-25-2011, 07:41 PM
Still using straights in the 24th century. No need to worry folks.



http://lifeandstartrek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/shave.jpg

GFreg
01-25-2011, 08:45 PM
In December, I would have loved to use a laser to turn shaving into a monthly task but now that I have found B&B and the world of traditional wet shaving I am loving every shave.

instpasr
01-25-2011, 08:55 PM
You can already go to the plastic surgeon and get your beard lasered off, I don't think the FDA will ever license a home use product.

nrdoty
01-25-2011, 10:03 PM
Burning all your stubble off every morning would smell horrendous! :ohmy:

canoesota
01-26-2011, 12:08 AM
Only if I still get to put on my Clubman A/S everyday!:tongue_sm

Kvarten
01-26-2011, 12:16 AM
Bad bad idea. I love shaving now. I would never put a lazer to my face.

sovex
01-26-2011, 07:18 AM
I guess I'm going against the grain here (hah), but I see nothing NOT awesome about the idea of shaving with a laser.

Assuming it's guaranteed to be safe, of course.

If it was affordable, safe, and effective, I'd be all over this.

mmack66
01-26-2011, 08:24 AM
You can already go to the plastic surgeon and get your beard lasered off...

+1. Laser hair removal is what this article is referring to, not some futuristic razor.

rajagra
01-26-2011, 08:50 AM
Sounds expensive, painful, and probably dangerous because it wouldn't go through the long-term testing necessary to ascertain its effects.

But on the plus side you could fix your shortsightedness while you shave. :lol:

ZJ68
01-26-2011, 08:54 AM
I guess I'm going against the grain here (hah), but I see nothing NOT awesome about the idea of shaving with a laser.
For wet shaving enthusiasts, it removes the self indulgence of shaving experience. That's a deal killer.

Monkeydad
01-26-2011, 08:57 AM
Laser hair removal...NEVER...at least not on my face. :laugh:

I enjoy shaving (my face) too much to give that up.

inspiringK
01-26-2011, 09:12 AM
I'm sure it will work great. I like my weekend stubble and enjoy my shaves. Cutting my facial hair sounds okay, killing facial hair sounds harmful. :ohmy:

SiBurning
01-26-2011, 09:18 AM
The future is here.

Only $99 (http://www.vervelaserhairremoval.com/) and 3 years of free touch ups. Not a bad deal. And they'll trim your nails while you wait. :wink2:

If you want to be pampered, you can go to a spa (http://www.romeojuliettelaserhairremoval.com/) but you'll pay a lot more.

Or get the Tria (http://www.triabeauty.com/tria-laser-hair-removal-system) and DIY at home.

Palomar (http://www.palmed.com/resources/clinical-studies/hair-removal.aspx) seems to be the unnamed private company in that article.

Drewser
01-26-2011, 09:43 AM
It's not a conspiracy theory. It's called "Planned Obsolescence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence)".

I don't think it falls under planned obsolescence, as that implies a product with an intentionally limited lifetime. Here, it's possible that Gillette would apply for patents on the techniques, intellectual property, and/or core subsystems of a "LRazor", then never build one. Actually, they could conceivably patent the application of "using a laser for temporary suppression of men's facial hair growth to replace daily shaving" or something similar. Patenting applications is actually a pretty commonplace thing in industry to corner a market, especially by Japanese firms. That way it would ensure the market for their razors for at least the duration of the patent or until the next best thing comes along...

Hawkeyeted
01-26-2011, 10:24 AM
I don't think it falls under planned obsolescence, as that implies a product with an intentionally limited lifetime. Here, it's possible that Gillette would apply for patents on the techniques, intellectual property, and/or core subsystems of a "LRazor", then never build one. Actually, they could conceivably patent the application of "using a laser for temporary suppression of men's facial hair growth to replace daily shaving" or something similar. Patenting applications is actually a pretty commonplace thing in industry to corner a market, especially by Japanese firms. That way it would ensure the market for their razors for at least the duration of the patent or until the next best thing comes along...

I was using it to describe "davros" comment toward light-bulbs. Perhaps I should have been a little clearer. :blush:

oc_in_fw
01-26-2011, 11:12 AM
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, isn't this the kind of research that companies like Gillette sponsor so that they own and hence can suppress the technology? a la the apocryphal but plausible stories about longer-lasting lightbulbs and record player needles that never saw the light of day.

yep. And the corn industry is running commercials claiming HFCS is not bad for you, pointing at a study paid for- take a guess- the corn industry.

oc_in_fw
01-26-2011, 11:14 AM
You can already go to the plastic surgeon and get your beard lasered off, I don't think the FDA will ever license a home use product.

If gillette pays the FDA and Congress enough money it will happen. Business writes legislation, DC is nothing but a Potemkin Village.

mandoman
01-26-2011, 11:16 AM
NEVER :mad3:

ramon
01-26-2011, 11:18 AM
no no no ...no

Sapian
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
I like my morning shaving routine! I don't like this. Not one bit.
I don't think that this is going to happen anytime soon though anyways. What would the multiblade razor companies do? I think that a 10 blade razor cartridge is going to happen before lasers do.

flat_tire
01-26-2011, 12:38 PM
For those that think Gillette would never promote technology that replaces cartriges, it actually makes complete sense.

As a few others have pointed out, Gillette most likely does not consider themselves a "cartrige" company. They want to be a "Men's Grooming" company which will ensure the company doesn't go the way of the dinosaurs when cartriges do. Therefore they should be researching and developing products & technologies that will affect their target markets. This includes various forms of facial hair removal.

Personally, I think it is very reasonable that Gillette is spending money and resources on emerging technologies to ensure they have the competitive advantage should these products disrupt current offerings.

Of course, they could just keep the patents locked down and sustain the cartrige market for a few more years or they could use the patent and technology to create an all new market for which they have a significant advantage.

Having said all that, I am enjoying my archaic method of shaving and don't see it dissappearing in my lifetime. :thumbup1:

-CZ

Drewser
01-26-2011, 03:15 PM
yep. And the corn industry is running commercials claiming HFCS is not bad for you, pointing at a study paid for- take a guess- the corn industry.

Hey- watch it- it's no longer "HFCS", it's officially corn sugar :cursing:

And yes, according to the people who produce it, it's no different than cane sugar. Then again, there's the Princeton University study that found rats fed an HFCS supplement gained more weight than rats fed a cane sugar supplement of the same calories... :a41:

Perkus
01-26-2011, 03:50 PM
I'm with the wetshaving community. Laser is not my cup of tea.

Slivovitz
01-26-2011, 03:53 PM
Of course this is technically interesting. If it can be made affordable and safe, then plenty of people would go for it. Why shouldn't they? For many, shaving is no more than a necessary chore.

I'd rather stick with my already old-fashioned implements and shaving methods, but then, I'm eccentric.

neostyles
01-26-2011, 04:08 PM
If this technology becomes standard, I really doubt gillette would be the only company that sells it... Because yeah, as it was said im sure they would find some way to put an obscenely high price tag on it.

I would buy it. Of course, I would still use classic wet shaving, but when I was short on time, this would be perfect.

Also, regarding gillette, does anyone else think that they might realize that classic shaving is making a come back and I don't know.. bring in some new products?

raccoonandbrush
01-26-2011, 04:11 PM
Too many words!