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Freehand
01-01-2011, 08:29 PM
I've read that the proper speed for a buffer to use greaseless buffing compound is about 1700 RPMs.

My buffer is one speed, about 3450 RPMs, and I'm not planning on buying another buffer.

Is there any real harm that will occur if I apply all grits at 3400? Especially the 80 and 120?

Any special suggestions as how to apply the compound at twice the recommended RPMs?

Thanks
Freehand

johnmrson
01-02-2011, 12:58 AM
I just had a look at mine and it's listed as 2850 rpm and I run all the greaseless compound with no dramas.

BillEllis
01-02-2011, 02:37 AM
I truly hope the both of you stay as lucky as you have been. A 1725 rpm buffer is bad enough and covets the title of the most dangerous tool in the shop. It has the ability to embed a blade in your thigh if it gets snagged by the wheel just right. A 3450 will take the leg off! Gone! Bye bye! Not only that, but the 3450 generates a tremendous amount of heat and can cause a loss of temper if you are not careful. Please don't think I'm scolding you guys or anything. You are gonna do what you're gonna do and I know that. Some folks just love living in the fast lane. :001_smile

But for anyone who hasn't picked up a buffer yet, do not get anything over 1725 rpms. It would also be cheaper to get a new buffer than to purchase the controller that could reduce the speed of either of these buffers mentioned here.

honed
01-02-2011, 03:39 AM
I truly hope the both of you stay as lucky as you have been. A 1725 rpm buffer is bad enough and covets the title of the most dangerous tool in the shop. It has the ability to embed a blade in your thigh if it gets snagged by the wheel just right. A 3450 will take the leg off! Gone! Bye bye! Not only that, but the 3450 generates a tremendous amount of heat and can cause a loss of temper if you are not careful. Please don't think I'm scolding you guys or anything. You are gonna do what you're gonna do and I know that. Some folks just love living in the fast lane. :001_smile

But for anyone who hasn't picked up a buffer yet, do not get anything over 1725 rpms. It would also be cheaper to get a new buffer than to purchase the controller that could reduce the speed of either of these buffers mentioned here.
Listen to Bob here. Oh, sorry, Bill :biggrin1:
The buffer is an evil tool!
A good friend of mine worked at a slaughter-house for many years & he has seen a couple of guys getting severe slashes from flying knifes.
Their standard sharpening routine for the knifes were a low grit wheel, high grit wheel & final buffing on CrOx wheel.
When they had cut up the right amount of pigs for the day, they could go home, so naturally everyone was doing things as fast as possible.
Also cranking up the speed on the wheels as fast as possible...

The worst injury he's seen was a guy who was buffing a fillet-knife when it caught in the wheel, flung right thru his heavy leather apron & went straight thru the inside of his thigh, the point of the knife sticking out on the back of the leg...

So beware guys, if nothing else; wear a jockstrap :w00t:

johnmrson
01-02-2011, 03:55 AM
Hey Phoned, real men buff fast.

:thumbup:

honed
01-02-2011, 05:50 AM
Hey Phoned, real men buff fast.

:thumbup:
Sorry MrJason, I forgot you were Aussie.
You are a bit tougher then most of us sissy Europeans.
After all, your national sport encourages people to step on each other with aluminum-spiked shoes :biggrin1:

Zephyr
01-02-2011, 05:57 AM
Stupid question maybe, but what is a buffer?

honed
01-02-2011, 06:06 AM
Stupid question maybe, but what is a buffer?


http://www.anvilfire.com/FAQs/images/wheels/motor_buffer_512.jpg
Basically a bench grinder (bänkslipmaskin) but with cotton/felt wheels instead.
The nicer ones has variable speed.
You apply either the "greaseless" which is abrasives & glue mixed or a buffing compound that is available in various coarseness.

BillEllis
01-02-2011, 03:13 PM
Here's mine...

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=115618&d=1280381209

Joe Edson
01-02-2011, 06:05 PM
I'll echo what others have said here that a buffer is the most dangerous equipment used for restoration. I bought a variable speed bench grinder (1725-3450 rpms) and the lowest setting is more than plenty and still scary at that.

If you go this route though, make sure to buy some extra long shaft extenders (I got mine from caswell plating) to keep the razor away from the motor so you can work comfortably in the safety zone of the buffer wheel.

While it makes the job on the razor go by much more swiftly than hand sanding, it is undoubtedly the most dangerous tool. That said, I think it is safer than trying to do the same job with a dremel.

azmark
01-02-2011, 06:19 PM
Here's mine...

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=115618&d=1280381209

That is a beautiful buffer. Baldor?

I agree with Bill, 1725 is the highest I'd recommend on buffers. If you know what you're doing you'll be fine but when you get to rouges IMO the lower RPM's the better, especially crox on flannel cotton wheels.

Also, I love buffing and polishing but the only tool I actually have fear of is the darn buffer. I've had razors shoot out of my hand greaseless fly over and under my glasses and even cut myself on the razor because I was concentrating so much on it that I didn't realize my hand was on the edge. I'd rather cut 1x1 wedges on my band saw that use those wheels.

I also suggest a very thick apron:thumbup1:

Brownbear
01-02-2011, 07:10 PM
I have a couple take out motors from copiers that run at 1750 or thereabouts and have arbors from Caswells to hold the wheels. I don't use greaseless compounds and I don't take off much metal with the buffers as I don't like the orange peel look that often leaves behind, so I use mine mostly to remove light rust and polish up brush handles and razors.

My motors don't have a lot of torque but even so I've had them grab brush handles or razors out of my hands and fling them at high speed across the room. Lost a nice catalin handle that way, and broke a nice pair of razor scales, but no damage to me.

Clearly a tool that requires caution and vigilance. You could slow the wheel surface velocity down a bit by using smaller diameter wheels I suppose, but that comes at a cost.

honed
01-03-2011, 12:48 AM
Here's mine...

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=115618&d=1280381209
Now that is a buffing station worth it's name :w00t:

global_dev
01-03-2011, 05:23 AM
i was at harbor freight the other day and was thinking about using their 6" buffer (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html) with a router controller (http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html).

* Works with any universal AC/DC brush-type motor, 15 amps and under
* 3-way rocker switch: Full/Variable/Off
* Dial controls the variable speed (high, medium or low)
* 6 ft. cord

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1025.jpg

this looks like it might work... any thoughts?

DogHair
01-03-2011, 09:58 AM
i was at harbor freight the other day and was thinking about using their 6" buffer (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html) with a router controller (http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html).

* Works with any universal AC/DC brush-type motor, 15 amps and under
* 3-way rocker switch: Full/Variable/Off
* Dial controls the variable speed (high, medium or low)
* 6 ft. cord

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1025.jpg

this looks like it might work... any thoughts?

I tried one. It's kind of weird. The buffer runs at normal speed but lacks power so as soon as you touch something to the wheel it slows down. I'm not a big fan of the buffer so I can't really comment on any long term or extensive use.

azmark
01-03-2011, 10:01 AM
i was at harbor freight the other day and was thinking about using their 6" buffer (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html) with a router controller (http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html).

* Works with any universal AC/DC brush-type motor, 15 amps and under
* 3-way rocker switch: Full/Variable/Off
* Dial controls the variable speed (high, medium or low)
* 6 ft. cord

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1025.jpg

this looks like it might work... any thoughts?

That's interesting. I like the idea since I have a buffer from Harbor Freight but I'm pretty use to it and know my limitations.

I wonder if there would be a way to know the RPM's it can go down to?

azmark
01-03-2011, 10:02 AM
That is a beautiful buffer. Baldor?

I agree with Bill, 1725 is the highest I'd recommend on buffers. If you know what you're doing you'll be fine but when you get to rouges IMO the lower RPM's the better, especially crox on flannel cotton wheels.

Also, I love buffing and polishing but the only tool I actually have fear of is the darn buffer. I've had razors shoot out of my hand greaseless fly over and under my glasses and even cut myself on the razor because I was concentrating so much on it that I didn't realize my hand was on the edge. I'd rather cut 1x1 wedges on my band saw that use those wheels.

I also suggest a very thick apron:thumbup1:

I just noticed but how the heck is your wall so clean. I have a disaster:lol:

DavyRay
01-03-2011, 10:08 AM
I just noticed but how the heck is your wall so clean. I have a disaster:lol:

That was the first thing I noticed. I was going to ask "Have you actually used this buffer?".

Look closely. There are clear acrylic panels screwed to the wall in line with the wheels. Only a compulsive tool-head would wipe those down, but it appears that is exactly what Bill does. :thumbup:

Utopian
01-03-2011, 10:09 AM
The buffer rpm rating is not as relevant as the linear speed of the wheel. If you have a high rpm buffer, then you will want to stick with 4" wheels to bring the speed down to a more safe level.

Be very mindful of the safe and unsafe (kill you) zones of the wheel.

Wear eye protection.

Wear a good respirator.

BillEllis
01-03-2011, 10:12 AM
i was at harbor freight the other day and was thinking about using their 6" buffer (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-buffer-94393.html) with a router controller (http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html).

* Works with any universal AC/DC brush-type motor, 15 amps and under
* 3-way rocker switch: Full/Variable/Off
* Dial controls the variable speed (high, medium or low)
* 6 ft. cord

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1025.jpg

this looks like it might work... any thoughts?
It's always been my understanding that the controller you illustrate won't work. It may burn up your motor. That's what I have been told, anyway. I could be wrong. I'd like to be wrong on this one because the controllers that do work for sure start at $1,000.

The buffer, at $45, looks like a steal, but it's also only 1/2 horse. You'd be able to stop that one from spinning with any kind of force against the wheel at all. It might be ok if you go lightly and slowly. Anyone who has one should chime in.

My Baldor is a 3/4 horse and I can bog it down a bit at times, but it has enough power most of the time. One like mine will run you right at $500. Google around... maybe somebody can find a 115v/60h on the cheap and let us know. It's very helpful to have the long spindles. I also put a tapered spindle attachment on the left side of mine for quick-change capability of buffs

Pete_T
01-04-2011, 11:47 PM
It's always been my understanding that the controller you illustrate won't work. It may burn up your motor. That's what I have been told, anyway. I could be wrong. I'd like to be wrong on this one because the controllers that do work for sure start at $1,000.

The buffer, at $45, looks like a steal, but it's also only 1/2 horse. You'd be able to stop that one from spinning with any kind of force against the wheel at all. It might be ok if you go lightly and slowly. Anyone who has one should chime in.

My Baldor is a 3/4 horse and I can bog it down a bit at times, but it has enough power most of the time. One like mine will run you right at $500. Google around... maybe somebody can find a 115v/60h on the cheap and let us know. It's very helpful to have the long spindles. I also put a tapered spindle attachment on the left side of mine for quick-change capability of buffs


Yeah, I've read that those controllers will burn out buffer motors as well. I dont remember type of motor that a buffer has, but it isn't supposed to play nice with a speed controller like that.

I actually just got one of those harbor freight buffers, it seems to work fine. Having owned it about two weeks, I'm definitely not an expert, but I really havent had any problems with it slowing down b/c of pressure. As a matter of fact, I tried to bog the wheel down with greaseless to try to get it to stick better and had some trouble doing it. I may have gotten lucky though, I think harbor freight tools are hit or miss. The motor does seem to get really hot, though. Don't know if thats normal or not.

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If you keep an eye out you can prolly get that harbor freight buffer for even less. I got mine for about 36$. Harbor Freight has coupons everywhere. If you do a google search for a store near you you might get a "20% off any item in store" coupon through google offers. Thats what I got.

amcardon
01-05-2011, 02:46 PM
I was wondering if it was just me doing something wrong because icant keep greaseless compound on my wheels to save my life, guess I'm just trying to run a buffer faster than I should be... I guess I'll have to set something aside and try to pickup a slower machine.

Any tips to apply compound for those of us running too fast? Or are we pretty much SOL and need to change to a different buffer?

azmark
01-05-2011, 03:16 PM
I was wondering if it was just me doing something wrong because icant keep greaseless compound on my wheels to save my life, guess I'm just trying to run a buffer faster than I should be... I guess I'll have to set something aside and try to pickup a slower machine.

Any tips to apply compound for those of us running too fast? Or are we pretty much SOL and need to change to a different buffer?

There is some paste that is sold to help keep it on more but I think it's worthless YMMV. Let me ask you this; how long are you waiting after you apply the compound before you use it?

If you're doing it soon after, there's your problem. I load mine the day before and with moist weather it may take a little longer so just keep it in a dry location like a tub. It's going to come off but shouldn't be splattering. Always keep wheels loaded with different grits and compounds so you're ready to go.

rambus007
01-05-2011, 09:06 PM
This is my Paige buffer which I bought used from a friend of a late jewelry maker. It doesn't have a speed rating so that's why I posted it in the hopes that someone can tell me what the rpm rating is on these jeweler buffers. It's got a work light, a strong ventilation system and space for a filter at back. I love this buffer and use it indoors in a bedroom that I've converted over to my workshop. I do have to cover the floor with newspaper but other than that I don't see any reason why I can't use it indoors. So far I've been really careful and haven't had anything hurt me; however I have had two blades get snatched out of my hands and flung towards the back of the metal casing. It's relatively easy for me to change wheels because I can just twist the wheels on without any tools.

Pete_T
01-05-2011, 09:13 PM
I was wondering if it was just me doing something wrong because icant keep greaseless compound on my wheels to save my life, guess I'm just trying to run a buffer faster than I should be... I guess I'll have to set something aside and try to pickup a slower machine.

Any tips to apply compound for those of us running too fast? Or are we pretty much SOL and need to change to a different buffer?

If you google it you'll find some.

The two I found that work for me are--

1- Turn the buffer off then jam the compound into the wheel. You'll need to do it a few times to get a good coat, and wait a few seconds between so the compound will dry enough not to fly off

2- Jam the compound into the wheel and turn the buffer on, using the compound to bog the wheel down and stopping the RPMs from getting too high. Then you cut off the buffer before taking the compound stick off the wheel. You dont want it to get up to speed with the fresh compound cause it'll fling it off.

With both you still need to wait about 15 min for it to dry completely. The second method may be damaging to the buffer motor and cause it to burn out faster, so use it at your own risk. I try to stick to 1, usually.

honed
01-05-2011, 10:30 PM
This is my Paige buffer which I bought used from a friend of a late jewelry maker. It doesn't have a speed rating so that's why I posted it in the hopes that someone can tell me what the rpm rating is on these jeweler buffers. It's got a work light, a strong ventilation system and space for a filter at back. I love this buffer and use it indoors in a bedroom that I've converted over to my workshop. I do have to cover the floor with newspaper but other than that I don't see any reason why I can't use it indoors. So far I've been really careful and haven't had anything hurt me; however I have had two blades get snatched out of my hands and flung towards the back of the metal casing. It's relatively easy for me to change wheels because I can just twist the wheels on without any tools.
Sweet machine!

2 hits on google gives 3450rpm for Paige jewelry buffers.
However, that isn't your exact machine
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/paige-dayton-professional-lapidary-79576802
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/paige-4-inch-high-speed-jewelry-buffer

Somewhat similar machine, also 3450rpm
http://www.covington-engineering.com/jewelry_buffers.htm

check around some more here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=jewelry+buffer

rambus007
01-05-2011, 11:00 PM
Sweet machine!

2 hits on google gives 3450rpm for Paige jewelry buffers.
However, that isn't your exact machine
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/paige-dayton-professional-lapidary-79576802
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/paige-4-inch-high-speed-jewelry-buffer

Somewhat similar machine, also 3450rpm
http://www.covington-engineering.com/jewelry_buffers.htm

check around some more here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=jewelry+buffer

I think the one from covington is the updated version of what I have. Sigh it's too fast. Oh well I'll just use it very carefully. I know it's awefully fast but I can't do my buffing in the house rather than in my garage hehe. Not bad I guess for $100 eh?

amcardon
01-05-2011, 11:24 PM
Thanks for the replies - I am waiting till it's completely dry but, like mentioned, it is rotating so fast it just flings it off and leaves very little behind...

Pete T - I'm going to give #1 a go! Thanks for the tips!

rambus007
01-06-2011, 01:52 AM
Thanks for the replies - I am waiting till it's completely dry but, like mentioned, it is rotating so fast it just flings it off and leaves very little behind...

Pete T - I'm going to give #1 a go! Thanks for the tips!

I do #1 as well but I never thought about letting it dry so long. Will have to try that next time.

Joe Edson
01-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Thanks for the replies - I am waiting till it's completely dry but, like mentioned, it is rotating so fast it just flings it off and leaves very little behind...

Pete T - I'm going to give #1 a go! Thanks for the tips!

What are your wheels made of? I use spiral sewn cotton and have no problems with material staying on. I can apply and leave the buffer spinning and nothing spins off.

I did buy some sisal wheels to try to use black emory on them and for the life of me nothing will stick to them. I just stick with the spiral sewn cotton wheels for both my greaseless compounds and rogues.

azmark
01-06-2011, 06:25 PM
I leave mine overnight, not that it may matter but I've never had issues with it.

amcardon
01-06-2011, 10:53 PM
What are your wheels made of? I use spiral sewn cotton and have no problems with material staying on. I can apply and leave the buffer spinning and nothing spins off.

I did buy some sisal wheels to try to use black emory on them and for the life of me nothing will stick to them. I just stick with the spiral sewn cotton wheels for both my greaseless compounds and rogues.


I've tried it on loose and spiral sewn cotton... For all I know I'm using the wrong greaseless compound, I'm using stuff I got from Eastwood...

Nerdman
01-07-2011, 12:43 PM
My buffer is from Caswell, i use thier greaseless as well. It runs in the 3400 rpm range also. I have one of those harbor frieght controlers, while it does slow it down, it loses all its torque.
To load the wheels, i first hit them real quick with a wheel rake, the. I take the greasless and lightly press it on the wheel for about 2 seconds, movi g from left to right. I wait a mi ute and coat again from right to left. I wait about 3-5 minutes and use it. I usually do not reaplly for a couple of razors. But it all depends how bad of shape its in.

Joe Edson
01-07-2011, 12:48 PM
My buffer is from Caswell, i use thier greaseless as well. It runs in the 3400 rpm range also. I have one of those harbor frieght controlers, while it does slow it down, it loses all its torque.
To load the wheels, i first hit them real quick with a wheel rake, the. I take the greasless and lightly press it on the wheel for about 2 seconds, movi g from left to right. I wait a mi ute and coat again from right to left. I wait about 3-5 minutes and use it. I usually do not reaplly for a couple of razors. But it all depends how bad of shape its in.

Amazing that you can do a couple razors on one wheel. I find when I start on the spine and tang that the material comes off rather quick and I always have to reload for another razor though.

Never an issue as I only do one razor at a time up through the greaseless and rogues so the wheels are plenty dry for the next razor by the time I get to it.

Nerdman
01-07-2011, 09:35 PM
Amazing that you can do a couple razors on one wheel. I find when I start on the spine and tang that the material comes off rather quick and I always have to reload for another razor though.

Never an issue as I only do one razor at a time up through the greaseless and rogues so the wheels are plenty dry for the next razor by the time I get to it.

I use most of the greaseless on the blade first and i always try todo the spine and tang last. It cleans off the material and leaves a nice surface for new greasless to stick to!
Sometimes i do 5 or more blades at once. Especially when I have a lot to get done, ill run all the blades thru each grit together so then i can clean up and not make a mess over and over again.

Munxcub
01-10-2011, 11:46 AM
The only variable speed grinders/buffers I am seeing locally available only go down to 2000RPM... is that close enough or still too fast?

Also, with a choice between 6" and 8", would the 8" be the one? Or will 6" be big enough?

azmark
01-10-2011, 12:13 PM
The only variable speed grinders/buffers I am seeing locally available only go down to 2000RPM... is that close enough or still too fast?
You could do it with a higher one (to a point) but just takes a more cautious approach.


Also, with a choice between 6" and 8", would the 8" be the one? Or will 6" be big enough?

I think this is one of those cases where size doesn't matter.

Munxcub
01-10-2011, 12:17 PM
You could do it with a higher one (to a point) but just takes a more cautious approach.


I think this is one of those cases where size doesn't matter.

So dialing it down to 2k would be better than 3600, but not as safe as 1750. That about the jist?

Would a bigger wheel help delay overheating, due to more surface area. Kind of like a bandsaw blade over a scroll saw blade?

azmark
01-10-2011, 12:20 PM
So dialing it down to 2k would be better than 3600, but not as safe as 1750. That about the jist?



Yes.

Would a bigger wheel help with overheating, due to more surface area. Kind of like a bandsaw blade over a scroll saw blade?[/QUOTE]

Never thought about it like that but it makes sense. Or you can look at it as you apply more product on an 8" rather than a 6". I think any way you'll be fine but never be complacent with any product, always check the razor as you're working with it.

Utopian
01-10-2011, 12:31 PM
No.
A larger wheel will cause more, not less, heat. You're not worrying about the wheel heating up. You should be worrying about the blade. A larger wheel leads to a faster speed and that translates to more heat.

Joe Edson
01-10-2011, 12:31 PM
Actually if you are going to be running a higher rpm buffer, then you want to go with 4" buffing wheels as that will effectively reduce the overall surface speed.

FYI, I have this grinder from Lowes (btw a 6" is all you need):
http://www.lowes.com/pd_78808-46069-PCB525BG_0__?productId=3162491&Ntt=bench+grinder&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dbench%2Bgrinder

I removed the safety guards to use. However, if you do not get extenders with 4" wheels you will not have clearance to work on the razor without having to work around the motor and thus you will be working in the dangerous "kill" zone of the wheels.

I got these extenders from caswell that work great (you will need a left hand and right hand one):
http://www.caswellplating.com/buffs/longsa.htm

Mine were the half inch bore. These effectively extend the arm a good 4-5" overall and make it much easier to work.

Since Caswell charges a ton for shipping, I would just place a large order for all your greaseless compounds, rogues, spiral sewn wheels, etc.

It is a large initial investment and unless you are serious about restoring a lot of razors then it might not be worth the $$.

Just my 2 cents.

If I had to do it all over again, I would just buy a dedicated 1750 rpm or variable speed rpm buffer instead of converting a bench grinder to suit my uses.

Toff
01-10-2011, 06:31 PM
I will chime in on this. I have used a HF 6" for a few years on everything from Jewelery to espresso machine parts. The 3450RPM or 1750 rpm is because they are synchronous motors. A synchronous motor has no brushes like a drill motor or router. All that the cheap controller does is reduce the power applied to the motor. So for a drill motor it works fine and just like the trigger speed control. A synchronous motor rotor is hauled around by its diameter according to the frequency of the line voltage in the stator coils around it. A Brittish motor will have a lower speed than a US as their current varies at 50Hertz/cycles per second rather than 60~ as ours in the US does. Each motor speed is directly divisible by the frequency of the alternating current from the mains.

A smaller wheel seems to work very well for razor work and the largest I use is about 3"/75mm. and smaller hard felt wheels at about 2"/50mm. Greaseless compounds are often lacquer based and do need time to set. Having the open end of the stick placed into a tight baggy with a damp rag between uses helps the compound stay soft enough to load a wheel. I load wheels the night before and let them set overnight. The compound can also be used fresh on the wheel but often the fumes are bad to dangerous when doing it that way. I seldom use the greaseless except as a first go-round on a really nasty razor, and then gently with only 320.
Respectfully
~Richard

Freehand
01-10-2011, 07:20 PM
I see that Caswell is offering a straight razor polishing package that includes a 1100 RPM buffer.

I started this thread several days ago by asking if anyone uses a buffer as fast as 3,450 RPM to use greaseless compound....

Now I've come full circle and am asking if anyone uses a buffer with RPMs as slow as 1100 with greaseless compound.

I'm concerned about removing the pits.....all the pits. Will 1100 RPMs get the job done?

Freehand

dmcconnell
01-20-2011, 02:49 PM
My poor man's buffer consists of my bench vise with leather-lined jaws, my cordless drill and 4" buffing wheels that fit my drill chuck. Once you get on to how to orient the razor in the vise to get the correct spine to edge orientation on each side it is not bad. For scales I hold the drill in my hand and run the piece back and forth across the buff. The drill on its highest setting is 1100 rpm so it hasn't been too scary yet. I get the wheels and rouges at princess auto.

BillEllis
01-20-2011, 05:09 PM
My poor man's buffer consists of my bench vise with leather-lined jaws, my cordless drill and 4" buffing wheels that fit my drill chuck. Once you get on to how to orient the razor in the vise to get the correct spine to edge orientation on each side it is not bad. For scales I hold the drill in my hand and run the piece back and forth across the buff. The drill on its highest setting is 1100 rpm so it hasn't been too scary yet. I get the wheels and rouges at princess auto.
Oh my! An accident waiting to happen. Hope you never experience one. On a different note, I hope you guys reading this thread don't think this is a good solution or should try this method yourself. If you do, be sure to run a video so we can all see the carnage on You Tube. :001_smile

Munxcub
01-20-2011, 05:49 PM
My dad just got a variable speed bench grinder, does as slow as 2000 rpm. I figure that is close enough for me to get some wheels compounds and rig it up to try some serious restores. Still faster than the recommended, but at least it isn't double!

azmark
01-20-2011, 08:38 PM
Oh my! An accident waiting to happen. Hope you never experience one. On a different note, I hope you guys reading this thread don't think this is a good solution or should try this method yourself. If you do, be sure to run a video so we can all see the carnage on You Tube. :001_smile

:lol::lol::lol:

dmcconnell
01-21-2011, 07:35 AM
Oh my! An accident waiting to happen. Hope you never experience one. On a different note, I hope you guys reading this thread don't think this is a good solution or should try this method yourself. If you do, be sure to run a video so we can all see the carnage on You Tube. :001_smile

Thanks Bill, you are certainly right. I definitely would not recommend anything but a properly equipped and safe buffing station regardless of shortcuts I may take . . . even if it has entertainment potential.