SCS open for business.

[Wendy]

Late last night we finished the website and product updates. I figured today was a perfect day to reopen. My Mom always watched my brothers kids on cycle break and I have the wonderful responsibility now. In other words I have cheap labor.

I have removed all but New Spice and Bay Rum shave cream for now, depending on orders they may be removed quickly. I have not had the time to invest into the creams so I will remove them until a later date.

Bay Rum w/ twist ASM, Bulgarian Rose edt, Sandalwood extract edt and Sandalwood (from wood) edt should hit the site over the next couple of weeks. Bay Rum with a twist will be on within days.

I have added many fragrances of soaps that can be purchased in a wooden bowl. In addition to that I have added New Spice Aftershave Splash and Dagger Aftershave Splash. I also have added Lavender and Savory Rose edt to the site again.

All orders through the month of December over $25.00 (excluding shipping) will receive a free Cranberry crush soap cake. This is one of our favorite smells for the holidays. Also the first 3 orders containing New Spice edt will receive a complimentary New Spice splash the same goes for the Dagger, the first three orders containing Dagger edt will receive a free Dagger splash.


Please use the new email address of [email protected] all emails sent to my Mom's address will be forwarded for a short time.

Thank you for all of your patience and understanding. Thank you for supporting SCS.

[kingfisher]

Wow. Good show, Wendy. You got the shop up and running pretty quickly!

[Wendy]

Wow. Good show, Wendy. You got the shop up and running pretty quickly!

If I had not been blessed with strep throat and the flu :cursing: the last 10 days I would have done a little better.

[davecmu]

Welcome back, SCS and Wendy! Best wishes on a busy, fruitful holiday season!!

[Austin]

Great news Wendy! Good luck and welcome back.

[RichGem]

Welcome back, Wendy. I hope everyone is doing well.

I'm glad to see Bay Rum w/ a twist is still in the stable, it's one of my Summertime favorites.

[Spivey]

Wendy, I'm glad you're feeling better!

[Nick D.E.vious]

welcome back, wendy. I hope everyone is doing well.


+1 Glad you're back.

[mkc1mjb]

Happy Holiday Wendy!

I'm very pleased to see you're back up and running. Congrats on the cheap labor...I'm sure it could not have come at a better time.

I put in my order for New Spice & Dagger edt's to give as gifts (I already have both)...hopefully I'm one of the first three to purchase these so I can try out the splashes for myself :)

[Wendy]

Happy Holiday Wendy!

I'm very pleased to see you're back up and running. Congrats on the cheap labor...I'm sure it could not have come at a better time.

I put in my order for New Spice & Dagger edt's to give as gifts (I already have both)...hopefully I'm one of the first three to purchase these so I can try out the splashes for myself :)

You are on both counts. :thumbup:

[73mountaineer]

Glad to see that the shop is open again, Wendy! Just put in an order for Dagger so hopefully I made the cut for the bonus :tongue_sm

[AACJ]

Any chance you will have the shave stick for chicks again?

[mretzloff]

Congratulations on getting your shop open again, Wendy! Best of luck to you.

[DFrancis]

Congrats, best of luck Wendy. I hope you're keeping well.

[nEver-Ready]

This is really great news Wendy. I'm sure Sue as she is looking down is happy and very proud.

[djh]

Welcome back Wendy. Thanks for the update and good luck getting things rolling again.

[ackvil]

Welcome back, Wendy, and good luck.

[Barber-Eile]

Welcome back Wendy and I hope you are feeling better :)

[biomesh]

Welcome back! The cranberry crush is a great scent :thumbsup:

[pal]

I wish you continued success!

[BigFoot]

Welcome back Wendy, my order will be placed on Friday. SWMBO said I have to wait until payday. :lol:

[brianw]

Welcome back Wendy, will be ordering in the new year. The pumpkin was awesum

[luvmysuper]

Welcome back!
Glad you're feeling better.

Order inbound.

[Neurotopia]

Welcome back Wendy. I'm glad your family pulled through.

[Vlad]

Oh man, this is testing my resolve. Cranberry :drool:

[El Judio Bravo]

I came here to post the good news I just discovered!

Welcome back, Wendy! Continued success and may you be warmed by your mother's memory!

[SkipH]

Great news, Wendy. God bless to you and your family.

[htownmmm]

She's back!!!!! :thumbup1::thumbup:

:jump::jump:

:badger::badger::badger:

:punk::punk::punk::clap::clap::clap:

:ouch1::ouch1::ouch1:

:a50::a50::a50:

and we couldn't be happier!-welcome back Wendy!


marty

[gollum83]

Nice to see you got things up and running! :thumbup1:

And I hope you're feeling better, Wendy. Having both strep and the flu doesn't sound particularly delightful.

[elkaholic]

Welcome back Wendy. Glad to hear you are feeling better.

[azmark]

Welcome back Wendy!

Now to stare at your site for a few hours.

[johnmrson]

Great to see Saint Charles Shave back in business. Well done Wendy.

[Wendy]

Any chance you will have the shave stick for chicks again?

Maybe I will make a limited run. :thumbup: Be forwarned I am not into the old lady smells though. LOL

[Wendy]

Glad to see that the shop is open again, Wendy! Just put in an order for Dagger so hopefully I made the cut for the bonus :tongue_sm

You got it!

[chef8489]

Great news. Hopefully you can get some creams shortly. I might have to pick up some as milk shortly.

[Wendy]

Great news. Hopefully you can get some creams shortly. I might have to pick up some as milk shortly.


If there are any creams that you have had in the past you are looking for, you can email. I may have some still here. Just not enough to add to site and then have to pull off again.

[geneaut]

Glad you are back! SCS is next on my list of shave products to try.

[73mountaineer]

You got it!

:w00t: Thanks!! :w00t:

[xjrob85]

Fantastic news! Thanks Wendy!

[KiltedShaver]

This is wonderful news Wendy!! :w00t:

Welcome back!!:jump::jump::badger::badger::badger::clap:

[azmark]

Got my order in:wink2:

[azmark]

Oh you've got to be kidding me! Neroli aftershave SPLASH:w00t:

I knew I should have waited a couple of more days before placing my order. I'll get another one out to you Wendy real soon as soon as I can hide the incoming order from my wife.:biggrin1:

[Wendy]

Sorry Mark,

We have had the Neroli for several months, but somehow it was overlooked and never added to the site. Someone asked my Mom "could she make Neroli", the next morning there was a man scientist in the shop with four different products sitting on the counter.

[Sullybob]

Oh you've got to be kidding me! Neroli aftershave SPLASH:w00t:

I knew I should have waited a couple of more days before placing my order. I'll get another one out to you Wendy real soon as soon as I can hide the incoming order from my wife.:biggrin1:

I'll be placing an order for the Neroli splash today! I love that scent.

[Neurotopia]

Hey Wendy, awesome turnaround time! Got my shipment today, I didn't expect it before the holidays. May I say the cranberry crush is awesome, and it should be at least a seasonal offering if not on the menu full-time.

I actually used it as a shower soap (hate to admit it), and my wife think it would make a great unisex bath soap. It's just that pleasing to everybody. Also the Fairway is an interesting scent. I didn't know if I'd enjoy it when I ordered, but I do. Glad I took a chance. Just enough green smells in there to balance out the florals.

[azmark]

Got mine today too:thumbup1:

[SkipH]

Got my soap yesterday, and used this morning. Great soap. I got the Rose and it is a very pleasant and light rose scent. This may be one of the best non-tallow soaps I have used along with Velobra almond and Institute Karite.
Very good shave.

[nEver-Ready]

I'll be placing an order for the Neroli splash today! I love that scent.

Interested in your feedback on this and that of any others who try it. I placed an order and was going to add the Neroli SCS blend splash, but wanted some data points before taking the plunge, since it exceeds my $20 pain point for autonomous AS purchases..

[Sullybob]

Interested in your feedback on this and that of any others who try it. I placed an order and was going to add the Neroli SCS blend splash, but wanted some data points before taking the plunge, since it exceeds my $20 pain point for autonomous AS purchases..

I placed an order for the Neroli blend AS. I have the Neroli blend balm and really like it but I just don't use a balm very often. I also like floral scents so the Jasmine is really nice.

[BigFoot]

I placed an order for the entire line of Dagger on Friday. Soap, Milk and Cologne. It was shipped on Saturday. Since it only has to come across the state I may see it today. I will keep you posted.

Great turn around on shipping Wendy, thanks.

[Wendy]

I actually used it as a shower soap (hate to admit it), and my wife think it would make a great unisex bath soap. It's just that pleasing to everybody.


:thumbup1: I love it too. My daughter and I just made bath soaps out of it yesterday with cute labels for her to give to hear teachers at school tomorrow.

[mkc1mjb]

You are on both counts. :thumbup:

I received my shipment today (Thanks for getting it out so fast :001_smile). As always the service is best in class! Thank you for the Dagger and New Spice splashes...I will be trying them both out this week.

Happy Holidays to you and yours...have a blessed Christmas.

[Wendy]

I received my shipment today (Thanks for getting it out so fast :001_smile). As always the service is best in class! Thank you for the Dagger and New Spice splashes...I will be trying them both out this week.

Happy Holidays to you and yours...have a blessed Christmas.

You are very welcome. I hope you enjoy them.

[BigFoot]

I got the full line of Dagger today, Soap, Milk, and cologne. I put a touch on and waited for SWMBO to get home from shopping. Her 1st reaction was, "OMG Scott you are not wearing that in public I won't be able to keep the other women away from you."

Wendy, I think we have a success thanks for the ideas on picking out a scent. Also thank you very much for the scent samples and the bonus shave soap. This was my 1st order with SCS, 1st class service and you have definitely earned a repeat customer.

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

[Wendy]

I got the full line of Dagger today, Soap, Milk, and cologne. I put a touch on and waited for SWMBO to get home from shopping. Her 1st reaction was, "OMG Scott you are not wearing that in public I won't be able to keep the other women away from you."

Wendy, I think we have a success thanks for the ideas on picking out a scent. Also thank you very much for the scent samples and the bonus shave soap. This was my 1st order with SCS, 1st class service and you have definitely earned a repeat customer.

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!


Thanks for the feedback. My Mom and I loved that fragrance. I think I have gave my husband at least 5 bottles of that, all have been hijacked by friends.

[DymondCutter]

I sent Wendy an email today with some questions about some scents for my sensitive skin. I did not expect a reply till Monday since today is New Year's Eve day. To my surprise I got a very informitive reply from Wendy! I went ahead and placed my order and I am so excited to get this in the mail. Thanks for the great service Wendy! :thumbup:

[2b1ask1]

Got mine today too:thumbup1:

Me too!!:thumbup:

[craig87c]

Just ordered cologne samples from SCS; Dagger, Bay Rum with a Twist, and Aspect. Oh and a sample of Avocado ASB!

[Puig]

I am hoping that the limited edition Sandalwood, which I think I got one of the last bottles of, will reappear before too long. It is stunning, one of the best things I own, I will be inconsolable if Wendy doesn't make any more. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Bulgarian Rose and that has gone missing...drat. Fingers crossed for all things good returning. Great stuff, all of it.

[Wendy]

I am hoping that the limited edition Sandalwood, which I think I got one of the last bottles of, will reappear before too long. It is stunning, one of the best things I own, I will be inconsolable if Wendy doesn't make any more. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Bulgarian Rose and that has gone missing...drat. Fingers crossed for all things good returning. Great stuff, all of it.


I just emailed you. It is done. You were my reminder to add to the site. :thumbup: I also will be adding the Bulgarian Rose EDT and I am attempting to get the Sahara and Lime Extract Milk back soon too.

[azmark]

I just emailed you. It is done. You were my reminder to add to the site. :thumbup: I also will be adding the Bulgarian Rose EDT and I am attempting to get the Sahara and Lime Extract Milk back soon too.

My wife loved the Sahara. Smells:001_wub:

[baquah]

I also will be adding the Bulgarian Rose EDT and I am attempting to get the Sahara and Lime Extract Milk back soon too.

Great news; I've been wanting to get more of the Sahara balm, smells great and works better!

[craig87c]

My samples shipped today. I cannot WAIT to try the Dagger EdT!

[BigFoot]

My samples shipped today. I cannot WAIT to try the Dagger EdT!

I received the full line of Dagger maybe 3 weeks or so ago, got it just before Christmas. You will love it I really struggle to put it up and use something else so I do not smell the same every day.

Good Stuff Wendy.

[craig87c]

I received the full line of Dagger maybe 3 weeks or so ago, got it just before Christmas. You will love it I really struggle to put it up and use something else so I do not smell the same every day.

Good Stuff Wendy.

Here's the important question: How long does it take to ship to NY? :lol:

[BigFoot]

So Wendy,

Any plans of ever having a Brick and Mortar store. I usually get to that side of the state every couple of months. It would be soooo cool to be able to stop in see all the products,:drool: have a cup of coffee etc. etc.

No hurry I probably will not be back over that way until March. :biggrin1:

[The Knize]

I am hoping that the limited edition Sandalwood, which I think I got one of the last bottles of, will reappear before too long. It is stunning, one of the best things I own, I will be inconsolable if Wendy doesn't make any more. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Bulgarian Rose and that has gone missing...drat. Fingers crossed for all things good returning. Great stuff, all of it.

I agreed that the LE Sandalwood was pretty special. Such a nice pure sandalwood. Creamy goodness.

I think the Bulgarian Rose could be tweaked to be even better than it was. That Bulgarian EO was really special!

[Wendy]

Here's the important question: How long does it take to ship to NY? :lol:


Who'd know. I have had 2 customers this week waiting almost 9 days and one last week that waited 2 weeks. Others get stuff very fast. I am less than thrilled with the USPS right now. It is probably my local office. At my Moms house we had the lady trained good. We gave her drinks and products, she gave us good service. Very rare that I had to go to PO myself. Now at my house in the same subdivision, untrainable driver. He is getting ready to retire and I think he is just plain tired. :cursing: OR MAYBE, he is just waiting for drinks and product too.

[Wendy]

So Wendy,

Any plans of ever having a Brick and Mortar store. I usually get to that side of the state every couple of months. It would be soooo cool to be able to stop in see all the products,:drool: have a cup of coffee etc. etc.

No hurry I probably will not be back over that way until March. :biggrin1:

I am not sure what my plans are beyond this coming Sunday. :001_unsur A "real" shop would be cool but I kinda like rolling out of bed and working when I want, or taking the day off and laying by the pool. If I had a real shop I might have to work a real day, you know more than an hour or so. LOL

On a serious note. My plans are real unsure because my husband has wanted to move away from here for several years and I have had him in the holding tank because of sick parents. Now I have nothing holding me back. Not to say my parents held me back, but I guess in a way they did. I am 100% family first and I would never leave someone in need of help.

I guess before I even would consider a store I would have to be sure I am going to stay put. On thing in your favor is KC is one of our options. :thumbup1: We may look back at Ford Motor co. there in KC. He had 11 yrs in as a supervisor when they closed here. He turned them down last time they called but he could always get back in.

Otherwise it is CO or WA.....

[craig87c]

The USPS in NYC is awful. There's no other way to put that; they're the lowest form of humanity in the city!

If it takes two weeks, it takes two weeks. No worries!

[BigFoot]

I am not sure what my plans are beyond this coming Sunday. :001_unsur A "real" shop would be cool but I kinda like rolling out of bed and working when I want, or taking the day off and laying by the pool. If I had a real shop I might have to work a real day, you know more than an hour or so. LOL

On a serious note. My plans are real unsure because my husband has wanted to move away from here for several years and I have had him in the holding tank because of sick parents. Now I have nothing holding me back. Not to say my parents held me back, but I guess in a way they did. I am 100% family first and I would never leave someone in need of help.

I guess before I even would consider a store I would have to be sure I am going to stay put. On thing in your favor is KC is one of our options. :thumbup1: We may look back at Ford Motor co. there in KC. He had 11 yrs in as a supervisor when they closed here. He turned them down last time they called but he could always get back in.

Otherwise it is CO or WA.....


Both are beautiful states. But we have barbecue. :drool:

[mark the shoeshine boy]

A "real" shop would be cool but I kinda like rolling out of bed at noon and working??? when I want, or taking the day off by 1pm and laying by the pool ALL DAY. If I had a real shop I might have to work a real day, you know more than an hour or so. LOL


:thumbup1: We may look back at Ford Motor co. there in KC. He had 11 yrs in as a supervisor when they closed here. He turned them down last time they called but he could always get back in.

Otherwise it is CO or WA.....

then you could call it KC Masterpiece Shaving.....:001_tt2:

[kingfisher]

I agreed that the LE Sandalwood was pretty special. Such a nice pure sandalwood. Creamy goodness.

...!

Are you talking about the Sandalwood cologne?

I have some of that stuff and it is really amazing.

[Wendy]

then you could call it KC Masterpiece Shaving.....:001_tt2:


Good idea Mark. Maybe I could just have a split shop. BBQ and shave stuff. That sounds good to me. My brother keeps telling me to get a shop and let him do bike repairs out of a shop in the back. BBQ sure sounds better :drool:

[BigFoot]

Good idea Mark. Maybe I could just have a split shop. BBQ and shave stuff. That sounds good to me. My brother keeps telling me to get a shop and let him do bike repairs out of a shop in the back. BBQ sure sounds better :drool:

I can see it now. A big plate of Short Ends, and various soaps and colognes to sample why you are eating. :drool:

Look out Gates, and Arthur Bryants here comes Wendy. :scared:

[Wendy]

I think the Bulgarian Rose could be tweaked to be even better than it was. That Bulgarian EO was really special!

Okay are we talking Rosa Damascena or the Bulgarian Rose? Both are made from the Bulgarian Rose EO but one is just Bulgarian Rose and the Rosa Damascena had other fragrances added. I am open to suggestions it is not bottled yet. Anyting to make it better, I am open to. Feel free to post or send me a PM. Thanks for any input. :thumbup1:

[Wendy]

I can see it now. A big plate of Short Ends, and various soaps and colognes to sample why you are eating. :drool:

Look out Gates, and Arthur Bryants here comes Wendy. :scared:

If that were to happen I would have to have a good place to ride my bike to burn off the 2000 calorie lunches. :ohmy:

[The Knize]

Okay are we talking Rosa Damascena or the Bulgarian Rose? Both are made from the Bulgarian Rose EO but one is just Bulgarian Rose and the Rosa Damascena had other fragrances added. I am open to suggestions it is not bottled yet. Anting to make it better, I am open to. Feel free to post or send me a PM. Thanks for any input. :thumbup1:

My bad. I must not be keeping up with SCS! And sorry if I continue to screw up. I have not gone back to look at the current SCS web site, for instances. Was there an SCS pure Bulgarian rose EDT? I know there were BR SCS shaving soap and ASM, but I do not recall that there was ever a pure Bulgarian rose EDT, only the Rosa Damascena, which has other fragrances added as you say. The whole line as I recall, and my recollection my be completely faulty, was called "Rosa Damascena."

<open to suggestions it is not bottled yet. Anting to make it better, I am open to.>

I ought to learn to keep quiet, I suppose! Full disclosure: Over quite a bit of time, when your Mom was working on exactly what Rosa Damascena would be, she sent me, and I am sure any number of others, samples of maybe five different rounds of the edt and the shaving soap, too, seeking my opinion. I think the exercise started as an attempt at something that was a kin to C&S 88, which was extremely difficult, I assure you. I think by the end, your Mom really decided to go a different way with the Rosa Damascena line, and to make the ASM and the SS pure BR, and to make the EDT as different from 88 as like it.

And seeking suggestions from me is probably a bad idea. I do not know that I was any help to your Mom at all. If you have her old PMs anywhere you might be able to dig out my comments on the various iterations that she sent me, and if you know what was in each iteration formula, you could reconstruct my impressions from back then. Of course, my tastes and/or scent analyzing abilities may have changed since then.

With every caveat in the world, I can give you a few thoughts now, and may be others will have others! I also had only the final version of the EDT, not of the SS or the ASM. Bear in mind that every new restaurant that has opened up that I have been wild about, seems to be closed a couple of months later (see Seinfeld, Dream Cafe episode), so you may want to go 180 degrees contrary to my tastes!

My impression may have been that your Mom took a less bold approach than the versions of the scents that I liked the most, and she may well be right to do that. I can only convey what appeals to me the most. I sure have no idea on what will appeal to most and thus sell the most units!

With all of those weasel words!:

First, I would suggest an edt that is pure BR without the other added fragrances.

Second, re SS, like I said, I do not know where you came out on them, but I remember that your Mom sent along one that was darker than others by quite a bit. That was my favorite. So rich and strong.

Third, as I said, as I recall, I preferred the bolder versions of the edt mixes of BR and other scents. I suspect that they had more frangipani than what SCS ended up using in the the edt and I am sure that was a conscious decision by your Mom.. 88 supposedly "has a fresh, woody top note of reviving and uplifting bergamot, the richness and warmth of geranium, rose otto, cassie and exotic frangipani. Combined with dry base notes of vetiver and sandalwood, . . . ." I suspect that that is far from a complete ingredient list!

You Mom thought 88 was all about the frangipani, if I recall, and she may be correct. I wonder if there are different types of frangipani out there, some which may be closer to whatever 88 uses. Cassie seems like an interesting note. I am not sure that the SCS Damascena could not use some additional "green" to it! Cassie might provide that.

Also, I am not sure that carnation would not be a good addition. Maybe some of that really nice SCS LE Sandalwood. I do not sense a lot of vetiver in 88. I am not sure how to go about "anchoring" the scent solidly. 88 has persistent darkness to it. And I have no idea what creates that. Again, 88 is a tough frag to try to copy!

Anyway, that is probably way more suggestions than you wanted, and any of the above maybe changing your Mon's vision of the scent. And I would surely test any changes before going final with anything. Also, I have no idea whether every one else that tested samples last time around gave very different feedback than I did.

Anyway, I do not think you can go wrong with a pure BR edt. Folks can always layer in what they want to. And pure Bulgarian Rose EO is a very complex scent all by itself! In any mix of fragrances, I would still think the BR should dominate, as I think it does in 88.

Hope any of that is of help! From what I can tell scentmaking is extremely difficult and even at the highest levels involves lots of trial and error, most the latter! And remember the "Dream Cafe"!

Best!

[Wendy]

Wow, that is a lot of info. Note to self, "be careful what you ask for" LOL.

My plans on the BR was to eliminate the Rosa Damascena for some time. I want to stick to just a straight Bulgarian Rose, no additional notes. I have ran across so many of the test recipes that my Mom dabbled with, along with a ton of tester bottles. I also have the Rosa Damascena that I have bottled up in the past but from where I sit more people like the straight BR.

As far as I know the darker color soap is actually the Rosa Damascena. I will have to see if I can dig one up.

I also tend to make things a little stronger than my Mom did so the scent may vary some.

I am delighted to know where all that Frangipani oil came from. I have been making soap for myself and the kids. I love it.

Thank you for taking time to give all of this feedback. I greatly appreciate it.

[The Knize]

Wow, that is a lot of info. Note to self, "be careful what you ask for" LOL.

My plans on the BR was to eliminate the Rosa Damascena for some time. I want to stick to just a straight Bulgarian Rose, no additional notes. I have ran across so many of the test recipes that my Mom dabbled with, along with a ton of tester bottles. I also have the Rosa Damascena that I have bottled up in the past but from where I sit more people like the straight BR.

As far as I know the darker color soap is actually the Rosa Damascena. I will have to see if I can dig one up.

I also tend to make things a little stronger than my Mom did so the scent may vary some.

I am delighted to know where all that Frangipani oil came from. I have been making soap for myself and the kids. I love it.

Thank you for taking time to give all of this feedback. I greatly appreciate it.

You are very welcome, Wendy! Just remember the "Dream Cafe" if you are every thinking of my advice! I think your thought to go with a pure Bulgarian Rose is right on. I might be able to find some of the old test vials and send you my fav of them so you could match it to the testers and formulas you have, but that does not sound like it would be of much help. I basically concluded that there was no way to replicate 88 and your Mom may have, too.

<Frangipani>

kind of a cute smelling scent, I agree!

<As far as I know the darker color soap is actually the Rosa Damascena.>

So, the soap I liked the best may had had the most other fragrances to it!? See you should not listen to me! I walk north and south at the same time.

<I also tend to make things a little stronger than my Mom did so the scent may vary some. >

I doubt you will have any complaints! Scentmaking is an art not a science anyway, and these scents should by all rights now bare something of your own mark on them now. I imagine that EOs and FOs vary supply to supply anyway or even change from just aging. I mean how could one batch of roses be exactly the same as another.

I hate to be asking a bunch of questions in a public forum if it is any bother to you at all, but others might be interested, too: Any idea why you all did not make a Bulgarian Lavender edt? You had shave cream and ASM in Bulgarian lavender, but no edt (or AS for that matter, but I do not care much about AS)? The Bulgarian Lavender scent, particularly in the ASM, was a fav of mine!

[BigFoot]

My bad. I must not be keeping up with SCS! And sorry if I continue to screw up. I have not gone back to look at the current SCS web site, for instances. Was there an SCS pure Bulgarian rose EDT? I know there were BR SCS shaving soap and ASM, but I do not recall that there was ever a pure Bulgarian rose EDT, only the Rosa Damascena, which has other fragrances added as you say. The whole line as I recall, and my recollection my be completely faulty, was called "Rosa Damascena."

<open to suggestions it is not bottled yet. Anting to make it better, I am open to.>

I ought to learn to keep quiet, I suppose! Full disclosure: Over quite a bit of time, when your Mom was working on exactly what Rosa Damascena would be, she sent me, and I am sure any number of others, samples of maybe five different rounds of the edt and the shaving soap, too, seeking my opinion. I think the exercise started as an attempt at something that was a kin to C&S 88, which was extremely difficult, I assure you. I think by the end, your Mom really decided to go a different way with the Rosa Damascena line, and to make the ASM and the SS pure BR, and to make the EDT as different from 88 as like it.

And seeking suggestions from me is probably a bad idea. I do not know that I was any help to your Mom at all. If you have her old PMs anywhere you might be able to dig out my comments on the various iterations that she sent me, and if you know what was in each iteration formula, you could reconstruct my impressions from back then. Of course, my tastes and/or scent analyzing abilities may have changed since then.

With every caveat in the world, I can give you a few thoughts now, and may be others will have others! I also had only the final version of the EDT, not of the SS or the ASM. Bear in mind that every new restaurant that has opened up that I have been wild about, seems to be closed a couple of months later (see Seinfeld, Dream Cafe episode), so you may want to go 180 degrees contrary to my tastes!

My impression may have been that your Mom took a less bold approach than the versions of the scents that I liked the most, and she may well be right to do that. I can only convey what appeals to me the most. I sure have no idea on what will appeal to most and thus sell the most units!

With all of those weasel words!:

First, I would suggest an edt that is pure BR without the other added fragrances.

Second, re SS, like I said, I do not know where you came out on them, but I remember that your Mom sent along one that was darker than others by quite a bit. That was my favorite. So rich and strong.

Third, as I said, as I recall, I preferred the bolder versions of the edt mixes of BR and other scents. I suspect that they had more frangipani than what SCS ended up using in the the edt and I am sure that was a conscious decision by your Mom.. 88 supposedly "has a fresh, woody top note of reviving and uplifting bergamot, the richness and warmth of geranium, rose otto, cassie and exotic frangipani. Combined with dry base notes of vetiver and sandalwood, . . . ." I suspect that that is far from a complete ingredient list!

You Mom thought 88 was all about the frangipani, if I recall, and she may be correct. I wonder if there are different types of frangipani out there, some which may be closer to whatever 88 uses. Cassie seems like an interesting note. I am not sure that the SCS Damascena could not use some additional "green" to it! Cassie might provide that.

Also, I am not sure that carnation would not be a good addition. Maybe some of that really nice SCS LE Sandalwood. I do not sense a lot of vetiver in 88. I am not sure how to go about "anchoring" the scent solidly. 88 has persistent darkness to it. And I have no idea what creates that. Again, 88 is a tough frag to try to copy!

Anyway, that is probably way more suggestions than you wanted, and any of the above maybe changing your Mon's vision of the scent. And I would surely test any changes before going final with anything. Also, I have no idea whether every one else that tested samples last time around gave very different feedback than I did.

Anyway, I do not think you can go wrong with a pure BR edt. Folks can always layer in what they want to. And pure Bulgarian Rose EO is a very complex scent all by itself! In any mix of fragrances, I would still think the BR should dominate, as I think it does in 88.

Hope any of that is of help! From what I can tell scentmaking is extremely difficult and even at the highest levels involves lots of trial and error, most the latter! And remember the "Dream Cafe"!

Best!

Robbie you lost me after "my bad" :huh: I think I will just smell the stuff. I do not believe I have the smarts for anything more.

[Wendy]

Robbie you lost me after "my bad" :huh: I think I will just smell the stuff. I do not believe I have the smarts for anything more.


LOL, I am feeling the same. I am sick AGAIN and my brain can not mend all that together. :w00t:

Robbie, I am going to make an honest effort to have the Bulgarian Rose, no extra scents done this week. To be honest, I am not real sure what my Mom labeled or put on the website, when I go to the web it says Rosa Damascena but when I receive on this end it says BR. ?????? Obviously there is a mixup on the website too.

[craig87c]

Hi Wendy,

My EdT samples just arrived. They're cold, but smell great even thought I haven't applied them yet. Thanks so much!

[Wendy]

I am hoping that the limited edition Sandalwood, which I think I got one of the last bottles of, will reappear before too long.


:thumbup: Done, now just waiting on my webmaster to put on site.

[The Knize]

LOL, I am feeling the same. I am sick AGAIN and my brain can not mend all that together. :w00t:

Robbie, I am going to make an honest effort to have the Bulgarian Rose, no extra scents done this week. To be honest, I am not real sure what my Mom labeled or put on the website, when I go to the web it says Rosa Damascena but when I receive on this end it says BR. ?????? Obviously there is a mixup on the website too.

Sorry for the complication.

I actually spent quite a bit of time with your Mother on the original Bulgarian Rose scent, whatever it should be called. I think there were either four or five rounds of trial edts, plus shaving soaps!

One of my first lessons in utter humility as to just how hard it is to pick out scent notes, much less communicate them to someone else, much less actually try to make a scent similar to a complex existing edt.:blush: So, so difficult!

I think you are on the right track to go with the pure Bulgarian Rose EO, without other fragrance added. Bulgarian Rose is plenty complicated in aroma, and quite satisfying, all by itself! :001_smile

[Wendy]

Sorry for the complication.

I actually spent quite a bit of time with your Mother on the original Bulgarian Rose scent, whatever it should be called. I think there were either four or five rounds of trial edts, plus shaving soaps!

One of my first lessons in utter humility as to just how hard it is to pick out scent notes, much less communicate them to someone else, much less actually try to make a scent similar to a complex existing edt.:blush: So, so difficult!

I think you are on the right track to go with the pure Bulgarian Rose EO, without other fragrance added. Bulgarian Rose is plenty complicated in aroma, and quite satisfying, all by itself! :001_smile


I finished it today. Also awating this to be added to the site :thumbup: Busy day today.

[Sullybob]

I'm wearing Woods AS today and my wife thought it was a dead ringer for Polo Green. :thumbup1:

[coolbluewater]

Wendy,
Any chance of the Mediterranean Citrus aftershave making an encore? :wink:

[Wendy]

Wendy,
Any chance of the Mediterranean Citrus aftershave making an encore? :wink:

I have some. I have not put it on the site because the oil is slightly different. It has a little more lime to it. I did not want to put on and someone be upset that there was a difference in the fragrance, so it is just ahnging out on the shelf. :huh: It is the same recipe, just smells a little different.

[otto76]

I am new to this board and have only been wet shaving for the last three or four months but so far your soap is my favorite, hands down. Look forward to doing more shopping with you.

[Wendy]

I am new to this board and have only been wet shaving for the last three or four months but so far your soap is my favorite, hands down. Look forward to doing more shopping with you.

Awesome. Thanks :thumbup:

[BigFoot]

I am new to this board and have only been wet shaving for the last three or four months but so far your soap is my favorite, hands down. Look forward to doing more shopping with you.

Good Soap, Great service, what more do you need. Oh wait.....there is AS, cologne, multiple scents. Helllllllppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!:drool:

[DanOK]

Received my order yesterday and I am extremely happy with the Bulgarian Rose. Not to short change the Lavender splash and EdT as they are the perfect complement to spring, but the Bulgarian Rose is just perfect.

Thanks for all you hard work to get back up to speed.

[Wendy]

Received my order yesterday and I am extremely happy with the Bulgarian Rose. Not to short change the Lavender splash and EdT as they are the perfect complement to spring, but the Bulgarian Rose is just perfect.

Thanks for all you hard work to get back up to speed.


Thanks for the feedback. :thumbup:

[eightpaces]

Does St. Charles Shave accept checks or money orders?

[gtoface]

dont know, they are closed till april some time. :( guess ill have to wait for a rose scent cream from her..