View Full Version : Interest in Shavemac D01 brushes?
letterk
11-24-2010, 08:12 PM
I have the opportunity to bring Shavemac D01 brushes to WCS. Is there any interest? Size preference?
SliceOfLife
11-24-2010, 08:21 PM
I think it would depend largely on price. I don't imagine much demand for a retail product when a custom is available unless the cost difference drives it.
AJMiami
11-24-2010, 08:30 PM
D01 2-band in fan or extreme flat fan is on my future buying list...Something in the 20mm to 24mm range
20-22mm in real horn would be sweet.:thumbup1:
Isaac
11-24-2010, 08:43 PM
I would be interested in the extreme flatop d01 2 band like ambrose has :)
SliceOfLife
11-24-2010, 08:49 PM
I would be interested in the extreme flatop d01 2 band like ambrose has :)
I think if there's an option for a customized retail line (like Simpsons did with the Ehsan) that a 2 band extreme flat D01 would be the obvious choice. It seems like the majority of Shavemac "Brush Bragging" threads I see are of that type. I'd be most interested in the 23-25mm range. But 20-22 wouldn't be a deal killer for me if the price was right. My point is that Shavemac is pretty easy about custom orders, and from what I've been told the wait isn't even that long... so it seems like there needs to be something to incentivize customers to get enough business to justify going to the trouble of stocking Shavemacs. And price seems the only way to do it. Well... Price or doing a "LE" run. As we've seen, slapping LE on a brush increases demand (just look at the anger Semogue faced when they increased a LE run from customers who had only bought the brush because it was limited). I don't understand that mentality, but it's obviously there.
I love the D01 hair, so I would be interested. It will come down to price, though. My size preference is a 22 or 23mm knot with a 45 to 47 mm loft. For what it's worth, I think the fan knot appeals to a wider audience than the flat top (although the replies in this thread may be proving me wrong -- seems like the flat top is more appealing to others in the thread than it is to me).
I'd be interested in an extreme flat top D01 brush. Like Jim, I think horn would be swell. A knot size of 23mm-25mm with a loft height of 48mm-50mm would be in my sweet spot.
ambrose
11-24-2010, 10:13 PM
I would be interested in the extreme flatop d01 2 band like ambrose has :)
OH nice :thumbup1: a soft beast face lathering machine :biggrin1:
htownmmm
11-24-2010, 10:18 PM
As long as its a soap lathering beast, I'm in.
marty
Tha Baron
11-25-2010, 11:28 AM
Sure... I'm not sure something overly specialized would be that great of an addition - they can always go to Bernd for that.
I think maybe a 22mm and 24mm medium lofted D01 would be a nice addition.
brian1g
11-25-2010, 11:40 AM
I think these 2 brushes would sell well-
http://www.shavemac.com/shop/Shaving-Brushes/Traditional-Lines-D01
If you carried these 2 brushes with the 20-22-24mm knots it looks like it would cover the sizes most people like.
SliceOfLife
11-25-2010, 12:31 PM
I love the D01 hair, so I would be interested. It will come down to price, though. My size preference is a 22 or 23mm knot with a 45 to 47 mm loft. For what it's worth, I think the fan knot appeals to a wider audience than the flat top (although the replies in this thread may be proving me wrong -- seems like the flat top is more appealing to others in the thread than it is to me).
Flat top is appealing mostly because it's only available through shavemac. People looking for a fan top have Rooney and surely a few other quality makers. If you already have people looking at shavemacs, that skews the results in favor of flat tops just because all the people who would be interested in a Rooney etc fan have been filtered out.
SP120K
11-25-2010, 03:09 PM
20-22mm in real horn would be sweet.:thumbup1:
+1
If you get real horn, I'll be in for sure. My next Shavemac will probably be real horn. I prefer 21-22mm knot with a loft size of about 45-47mm.
subscribed to thread. Exciting things being discussed!
blacdisco2000
11-25-2010, 09:21 PM
22-48 in real horn sounds great.
SirWhiskers
11-25-2010, 11:16 PM
Genuine horn will probably need to be worked out with Kimson as Shavemac does not offer any genuine horn handles, I asked Bernd. What you see on the site is leftovers from a group buy a while back:
http://www.shavemac.com/shop/Shaving-Brushes/Horn-Brushes
It will be hard to offer something that flies off the shelf unless it is priced well as someone who is prepared to pay that kind of money will probably go with a custom order that allows you to truly customize your brush. Unless John is ready to make custom brushes and engrave the handles :w00t:
FWIW, I prefer smaller brushes, 20-22mm knot with shorter lofts 42mm, but for the D01's I'd probably go higher at 45-46mm.
iron maiden
11-25-2010, 11:34 PM
To be honest, I like the shave brushes Shavemac offers. However, the horn handle just isn't all that great...I was in on that group buy when those horn brushes came out. Personally, I think the horn handle is sorely over-rated. It cracks near the brush knot, it needs a waxing after every use or it gets a dull finish, and if you drop it (which I unfortunately did) it breaks easily.
Horn=no:thumbdown
Shavemac=yes, the brush is great,the horn just isn't up to the use factor.
SRock
11-26-2010, 04:09 AM
20-22mm in real horn would be sweet.:thumbup1:
This
I serendipitously got a horn shavemac, and I don't think it's a big deal. It convinced me to get a custom brush done in D01, but it's actually seen very little use. I guess I kinda like plastic handles. :blush: For you guys that haven't tried this knot (I'm talking about the three-band, btw), FWIW I think it works shorter than it is. For example, a 45mm loft feels more like 40mm due to its density and backbone.
SP120K
11-26-2010, 07:36 PM
I really didn't think about the horn handle needing to be waxed to prevent the dulling effect. That doesn't sound too hot now.
BladeRunner001
11-26-2010, 08:08 PM
23-24mm is my sweet spot. I just ordered a custom 24mm 2-band D01.
Interest would definitely be there depending on price and shipping. Also Tax for CA residents could add to that
letterk
11-26-2010, 08:48 PM
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Size preference is what I imagined. I wasn't expecting so many flat top requests, and I'm not sure I'd do it as we stock normal Shavemac models. Maybe a custom run. I'll have to talk to Bernd about it.
I think if there's an option for a customized retail line (like Simpsons did with the Ehsan) that a 2 band extreme flat D01 would be the obvious choice. It seems like the majority of Shavemac "Brush Bragging" threads I see are of that type. I'd be most interested in the 23-25mm range. But 20-22 wouldn't be a deal killer for me if the price was right. My point is that Shavemac is pretty easy about custom orders, and from what I've been told the wait isn't even that long... so it seems like there needs to be something to incentivize customers to get enough business to justify going to the trouble of stocking Shavemacs. And price seems the only way to do it. Well... Price or doing a "LE" run. As we've seen, slapping LE on a brush increases demand (just look at the anger Semogue faced when they increased a LE run from customers who had only bought the brush because it was limited). I don't understand that mentality, but it's obviously there.
We already stock Shavemac brushes and they sell well, so this is just a line extension. Customers that buy Shavemac from us do so because we're a US retailer.
After reading John's response this is all I "heard" :laugh:
... flat top ... Shavemac ... custom run ... talk to Bernd about it
SRock
11-27-2010, 02:22 AM
After reading John's response this is all I "heard" :laugh:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:
mark the shoeshine boy
11-27-2010, 03:50 AM
After reading John's response this is all I "heard" :laugh:
you forgot........size matters....
J-Rock
11-27-2010, 08:06 AM
I would definitely be interested in a 22mm-24mm D01.
kooshman7
11-27-2010, 12:00 PM
I think the 23mm knots for Shavemac as they are are superb brushes. So I'd go with a 23mm knot of some sort.
dmachine
11-27-2010, 12:25 PM
I'm in the minority, but I prefer a little bit smaller brushes. 20mm would perfect.
machine99703
11-28-2010, 12:59 AM
I think these 2 brushes would sell well-
http://www.shavemac.com/shop/Shaving-Brushes/Traditional-Lines-D01
If you carried these 2 brushes with the 20-22-24mm knots it looks like it would cover the sizes most people like.
What he said.
Fans or flats :thumbup:
dougr
11-28-2010, 12:12 PM
20-22mm in real horn would be sweet.:thumbup1:
+1 and I have the Semogue LE in Buffalo Horn with the Badger Hair and just wipe it down with a little neatsfoot oil from the tack room every few months like Rudy Vey recommended. My shavemac's are in white and one ebony with very large knots.
I'd be interested in one. Ideally, a two-band somewhere on the smaller end of the scale. If you could carry that, it'd be great.
As far as handle materials go, something out of the ordinary would be nice. Be it horn, or wood, or those clear plexiglass cubes ... something other than the standard plastic "black or white". But really, it's the two-band that would draw me, not the handle material.
The flat-top looks gimicky to me, and I wouldn't get one.
I think if there's an option for a customized retail line (like Simpsons did with the Ehsan) that a 2 band extreme flat D01 would be the obvious choice. It seems like the majority of Shavemac "Brush Bragging" threads I see are of that type. I'd be most interested in the 23-25mm range. But 20-22 wouldn't be a deal killer for me if the price was right. My point is that Shavemac is pretty easy about custom orders, and from what I've been told the wait isn't even that long... so it seems like there needs to be something to incentivize customers to get enough business to justify going to the trouble of stocking Shavemacs. And price seems the only way to do it. Well... Price or doing a "LE" run. As we've seen, slapping LE on a brush increases demand (just look at the anger Semogue faced when they increased a LE run from customers who had only bought the brush because it was limited). I don't understand that mentality, but it's obviously there.
Agreed!
EmptyB
12-11-2010, 06:22 PM
Interested, preferably in the smaller sizes 20-23 mm.
kbuzbee
12-14-2010, 07:01 PM
I'll be following this with interest.
Cheers,
Ken
azmark
12-14-2010, 08:30 PM
20-22mm in real horn would be sweet.:thumbup1:
Heck ya!
along with some D.R. Harris Marlborough splash.:tongue_sm
Pulley
12-15-2010, 03:58 AM
Heck ya!
along with some D.R. Harris Marlborough splash.:tongue_sm
+1 - I was getting ready to order one but now I'll wait to see what John does.
bladeruner
12-19-2010, 10:19 AM
SBAD rising. Bank account dropping.
lu20vt
12-19-2010, 10:30 AM
These brushes in two bands is the best I have .. I would like someday to have her with flat top knot :drool:
MAGIVERSM1
12-23-2010, 07:36 PM
Sign me up!! 21 - 23 with a good sized loft.
I was just looking at your Shavemac line and wondered how I can determine the lofts on the 25 series, say the 21mm ?
thanks
letterk
12-24-2010, 08:42 AM
I was just looking at your Shavemac line and wondered how I can determine the lofts on the 25 series, say the 21mm ?
thanks
Yes, some of the information is missing on the Shavemac brushes. I will be updating the site in January. If you'd like a measurement on a specific brush, send me an email. Although, I will be out of the office next week. Dee and Lisa will be in, so you can call as well.
letterk
01-17-2011, 02:52 PM
Any news on the D01?
Next order. Promise.
Easttexasman
02-15-2011, 01:47 PM
Next order. Promise.
Are we getting close to that order?
Austin
02-15-2011, 01:52 PM
Where's my brush? :mad3:
letterk
02-15-2011, 03:12 PM
Are we getting close to that order?
We are. I think I'll be putting in the next order next week.
Where's my brush? :mad3:
I put some feathers on the end of an Irisch Moos stick for you. Will that work?
I put some feathers on the end of an Irisch Moos stick for you. Will that work?
A self-lathering shave stick? Brilliant idea!! :laugh:
Shaveananda
02-27-2011, 01:03 PM
Any ETA on the D01's at WCS?
kf4tqj
07-20-2011, 03:23 PM
I'm in. I've got a Shavemac 25 silvertip that I just love.
letterk
07-20-2011, 09:50 PM
Curiosity bump!
I'll be honest I've been focused on some other projects lately. I need to bump this back up to the top of my to-do list.
No problem ... I know how project-oriented you've been, and I'm certainly not going to complain about that!! :wink2:
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