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Cmaster03
10-23-2010, 03:53 PM
I've been hearing good things about these coats for a long time, but have never got around to trying one out. I know several members have them and was hoping for some opinions about favorite models and so forth.
I know the Beaufort is popular and the Bedale which is a bit shorter. I am fairly tall (a bit over 6'2") so I am leaning towards the longer Beaufort. There is an Orvis store nearby that I will probably go to for "trying on" purposes.
Any experiences or impressions about the Barbour line of coats are appreciated.
I've been hearing good things about these coats for a long time, but have never got around to trying one out. I know several members have them and was hoping for some opinions about favorite models and so forth.
I know the Beaufort is popular and the Bedale which is a bit shorter. I am fairly tall (a bit over 6'2") so I am leaning towards the longer Beaufort. There is an Orvis store nearby that I will probably go to for "trying on" purposes.
Any experiences or impressions about the Barbour line of coats are appreciated.What activities will you be doing in the garment?
If its going to be used in the field its important to get one that will work.
Also the light weight range and the heavyweight range are quite different.
The Boarder and the Northumbria are a good example of the same pattern with different fabric.
Cmaster03
10-23-2010, 04:07 PM
Good point, Jim. I should have said what I was going to do with it.
As far as use, I suppose it would be a general 'walking around town' coat. I don't hunt that much anymore, and when I do I have other clothes for that.
I do see myself also using it for some outdoor activities when they come up, but not really as a dedicated hunting coat, if that makes sense. Might change my mind if I really love it.
Mostly I'm a jacket/coat junkie looking for a new fix. :laugh:
Good point, Jim. I should have said what I was going to do with it.
As far as use, I suppose it would be a general 'walking around town' coat. I don't hunt that much anymore, and when I do I have other clothes for that.
I do see myself also using it for some outdoor activities when they come up, but not really as a dedicated hunting coat, if that makes sense. Might change my mind if I really love it.
Mostly I'm a jacket/coat junkie looking for a new fix. :laugh:
Get what comfortable then, leave lots of room for the zip in liner and a sweater to extend its usefulness.
I prefer the heavyweight versions they seem to last much longer for me.
Legion
10-23-2010, 04:14 PM
They look quite similar to the Australian Driza-Bone jackets. I had a look at a Barbour one, which I found in a second hand store, and it looked pretty good. I didn't buy it though, because I already have a Driza-Bone Brumby jacket that lives in my car and it seems a bit more solidly made.
As Jim said, it really depends what you want to do with the jacket. If it involves working outdoors and things where the jacket is going to get treated roughly, I'd get the Driza-Bone. It might also be a bit cheaper, but you'd have to check the prices locally.
http://www.drizabone.com.au/store.asp?pr=15&ban=M&store=Mens-p-1-c-1250
Cmaster03
10-23-2010, 04:23 PM
Thanks gents, great information and just what I was looking for. Please keep it coming.
Very interesting info about the Driza-Bone jackets. New one on me, but that Brumby looks good. Thank you, sir.
Jim, I was leaning towards the heavier coats anyway, now even more so. Thanks for the tip. :thumbup1:
Legion
10-23-2010, 04:38 PM
Thanks gents, great information and just what I was looking for. Please keep it coming.
Very interesting info about the Driza-Bone jackets. New one on me, but that Brumby looks good. Thank you, sir.
Jim, I was leaning towards the heavier coats anyway, now even more so. Thanks for the tip. :thumbup1:
Driza-Bone is one of the three brands of bush gear that real Australians actually wear (and swear by, and would accept no substitutes for.) Pretty much any Aussie who does, or has ever had a job working in the country outdoors has at least one. (More often than not the long riding coat, although you look like you just stepped off a bus if you wear that in the city.)
The other two brands are Akubra hats and RM Williams boots. All three are worth paying the extra for, as they last forever, and only get better with age.
Cmaster03
10-23-2010, 04:49 PM
Driza-Bone is one of the three brands of bush gear that real Australians actually wear (and swear by, and would accept no substitutes for.) Pretty much any Aussie who does, or has ever had a job working in the country outdoors has at least one. (More often than not the long riding coat, although you look like you just stepped off a bus if you wear that in the city.)
The other two brands are Akubra hats and RM Williams boots. All three are worth paying the extra for, as they last forever, and only get better with age.
Ahh, I see. In this country it sounds like the analogy might be to Carhartt, a coat actually used outdoors by working men.
Been meaning to try an Akubra hat for a while also. Now I s'pose I'll have to look at the RM Williams boots, too. :biggrin1:
AZShaver
10-23-2010, 04:59 PM
I have both Beaufort and Northumbria. The Beaufort is a great working coat, the Northumbria has a light wool liner and is a good rainy day coat.
I have had the Beaufort since 1991, a perfect coat for its weight.
In the Southern US I found the thin Beufort incredibly useful. Warm or layer up underneath in the winter. I've hunted in mine alot and worn it over a blue blazer in a tie.
You have to wax it though and do maintenance or it will wear thin and get holes. That was a hard lesson the learn, but their customer support is great and they fixed up a 10 year old jacket. :thumbup1:
The price bothers me, but I've gotten tons of wear from mine.
binowatch
10-23-2010, 05:34 PM
I've worn a Driza-bone for 16 years and with rewaxing every few years it only looks better and performs as well as when I first got it. Mine has a zip/snap in real sheepskin liner which makes it incredibly versatile. Be sure to size it to your needs-over a sweater with the liner, over a sport coat etc. It is a heavy coat esp after waxing but you really feel protected in it. I simply hose it down outside in the summer, mayby use a wet sponge and let it dry in the sun, inside out and outside out. For rewaxing I let the jacket heat up in the sun along with the can of wax on a sunny day to liquify it and use a paint brush, working it into the coat. Let cool off in the shade but still outside (on a hot day) to let the wax really soak in. It dries with that wonderful feel.
Rudy Vey
10-23-2010, 05:52 PM
I have two Barbours, a Border Jacket I bought in the late 1980's, so this is now about 22 or 23 years old, and I still wear it. Has a few hole on the sleeves where the material had creases and folds, but it is still my #1 jacket for going fishing in crappy weather. The second is a Bedale, I wear here when it rains in the fall and spring. Its shorter, so it is better when I drive.
Sterling Cooper
10-23-2010, 10:11 PM
I have a Border jacket as my casual November-March jacket in Chicago. It's a wonderful jacket and one that I could never live without. BTW, I'm 6'1" and the extra length is perfect.
furious1
10-23-2010, 11:53 PM
+1 on the Border. It's great for the wet & wild weather we get in LA once a year. But I do wear it when on business in NYC or Chicago rather than my cashmere greatcoat (which has brought me no luck at Christie's or Sothebys anyways). Buy the hood too, it's great.
For full disclosure, my standby jacket for about 15 years was the old Bean field coat. I smuggled much booze in its game pocket into movies and parties during college. Barbour is higher quality imo, but it would be harder to put a handle of Tanqueray + 1 or 2 bottles of tonic in the Border's game pockets, as I did many times in the Bean. Barbour's pockets are more suited to Basil Hayden or Eagle Rare, and, now, so am I.
Legion
10-24-2010, 12:17 AM
+1 on the Border. It's great for the wet & wild weather we get in LA once a year. But I do wear it when on business in NYC or Chicago rather than my cashmere greatcoat (which has brought me no luck at Christie's or Sothebys anyways). Buy the hood too, it's great.
For full disclosure, my standby jacket for about 15 years was the old Bean field coat. I smuggled much booze in its game pocket into movies and parties during college. Barbour is higher quality imo, but it would be harder to put a handle of Tanqueray + 1 or 2 bottles of tonic in the Border's game pockets, as I did many times in the Bean. Barbour's pockets are more suited to Basil Hayden or Eagle Rare, and, now, so am I.
Dude, is your avatar Nick Cave? :thumbup1:
Cmaster03
10-24-2010, 06:29 AM
For full disclosure, my standby jacket for about 15 years was the old Bean field coat. I smuggled much booze in its game pocket into movies and parties during college. Barbour is higher quality imo, but it would be harder to put a handle of Tanqueray + 1 or 2 bottles of tonic in the Border's game pockets, as I did many times in the Bean. Barbour's pockets are more suited to Basil Hayden or Eagle Rare, and, now, so am I.
Now that, sir, is what I call useful information. Aside from preferring scotch to the excellent bourbons you mentioned, you're obviously a man after my own heart. I also have a lightweight Bean barn coat that is a very nice jacket in fact.
Looking seriously at the Border now. (Must be something with a big hidden game pocket anyway.) :thumbup1:
Pumpkin
10-24-2010, 11:37 AM
I've got something similar to a Barbour, but mine's by Hoggs Of Fife (http://www.hoggs.co.uk/index.html)...a fraction of the price and it's what the farmers and gamekeepers wear here (which is a pretty good recommendation given the weather in Scotland).
Go for a jacket that hangs below your hips. If it's properly maintained and waxed, any rain will run straight off...if it's too short you'll end up with very wet legs! Similarly, make sure the sleeves are long enough.
Generally all waxed jackets look better with a bit of wear...feel free to lay your new jacket on a muddy track and drive over it with a Land Rover, it will look a bit more "lived in" :thumbup:
Cmaster03
10-24-2010, 12:43 PM
I've got something similar to a Barbour, but mine's by Hoggs Of Fife (http://www.hoggs.co.uk/index.html)...a fraction of the price and it's what the farmers and gamekeepers wear here (which is a pretty good recommendation given the weather in Scotland).
Go for a jacket that hangs below your hips. If it's properly maintained and waxed, any rain will run straight off...if it's too short you'll end up with very wet legs! Similarly, make sure the sleeves are long enough.
Generally all waxed jackets look better with a bit of wear...feel free to lay your new jacket on a muddy track and drive over it with a Land Rover, it will look a bit more "lived in" :thumbup:
Thanks for the great tip, Peter. I just looked at a vendor's site in Scotland and they appeared to have a very nice and serviceable waxed cotton coat for fifty pounds...very tempting.
God bless the internet. :biggrin1: Thanks my friend for another wonderful option I had not heard of before today. :thumbup:
Bullwinkle
10-24-2010, 03:51 PM
I have a Beaufort that is at least 20+ years old. Great cool weather walking around, rainy day, windy, crappy day coat. I find if I do too much work when wearing it I tend to get hot pretty quickly with the waxed fab. Every year or two send it to Barbour with $35 and they will rewax and repair any problems and it will come back looking good as new.
I have a Border, purchased 16 years ago in London, I think at Marks and Spencer. I don't remember the price being nearly as high as I see advertised now, but even at the current U.S. asking price, it's one great coat. I like the length and wear it fall, winter and spring here in Dallas, especially with a threat of rain. And best of all, the more you wear it, the better it looks. Every bump and scar gives it even more character.
I also have a couple of Driz-a-Bone items -- a baseball cap, again, wonderful on a damp day, and a zip vest that's perfect over a sweater or fleece. Equally durable.
Now, as for that Scottish line, I think it's time to take a closer look ...
galopede
10-26-2010, 12:05 AM
I have owned several waxed jackets over the years but have never owned a Barbour as they were always a bit expensive for me. Nice jackets and they do improve with age of course.
I currently own a couple of Drizabone's and love them. The ones I have are unlined which I prefer as I can always wear a jumper underneath when it gets colder, but can also wear it in warmer weather without the jumper. I've rewaxed the oldest a couple of times and they just get better. I bought them direct from Australia over the interweb and they worked out much cheaper that way as you can double the price if you buy from British retailers!
Quite a few years ago, a colleague of mine had a nice Barbour and it was breaking in nicely. He was still living at home at the time and one day his mother decided the jacket was looking a bit grubby so slung it through the washing machine!
Completely ruined it! He was gutted...
Also I can recommend that Scottish company, Hoggs. Don't own any of their waxed jackets but I've had trousers, shirts, shoes etc from them and they are very well made.
Gareth
I just ordered the Hoggs Woodsman Waxed Jacket. I couldn't buy a true weather jacket in stores in my area approaching that price.
Unlike sunny L.A., we do get our share of rain up here in winter, and SWMBO had appropriated my previous rain jacket.
Thanks again B&B, you always come through!
I just ordered the Hoggs Woodsman Waxed Jacket. I couldn't buy a true weather jacket in stores in my area approaching that price.
Unlike sunny L.A., we do get our share of rain up here in winter, and SWMBO had appropriated my previous rain jacket.
Thanks again B&B, you always come through!
Which retailer did you use?
http://www.countrysupplies.com/
Shipping to US almost doubles the cost, but still a bargain in comparison.... for quality merchandise that is.
I am looking forward to your impressions.:thumbup1:
Cmaster03
10-27-2010, 07:11 PM
I am looking forward to your impressions.:thumbup1:
Me, too.
I found a gently used Barbour Border on Ebay(with liner) for about a quarter of the price of the new one. I will try it out to see if I like the Barbour coats.:thumbup:
Hoggs told me via email that they suspected the integral liner of their coat might be TOO much for the rather warmish weather where I live.
Pumpkin
10-28-2010, 12:38 PM
Hoggs told me via email that they suspected the integral liner of their coat might be TOO much for the rather warmish weather where I live.
If the temp is above 10 degrees C, I find the Hoggs jacket can be a bit too warm to wear with a shirt AND jumper/suit jacket...particularly if you're moving round a lot (remember, they're not breathable like GoreTex or other modern synthetic fabrics).
Johnny U
10-29-2010, 11:39 AM
If you're open to other brands, Filson jackets are bullet proof
http://www.filson.com/mens/coats-jackets/-1011/
cardstock
10-29-2010, 02:49 PM
If you're open to other brands, Filson jackets are bullet proof
http://www.filson.com/mens/coats-jackets/-1011/
I was thinking the same thing, I'd love the tin cloth packer
Cmaster03
10-30-2010, 08:06 PM
Here's my Barbour Border. I really like it. :thumbup1:
Thanks for all the great advice and input, gents.
http://www.fototime.com/720C68AD6DEC9B1/standard.jpg
scottish steve
11-09-2010, 01:57 AM
I just ordered the Hoggs Woodsman Waxed Jacket.
Hoggs make good stuff. I've got as couple of their Indiana waxed cotton hats, which I've washed all the wax out of. Really comfy and well-made and only 14 pounds each!
Loner16
11-09-2010, 04:36 AM
I've had a Barbour Gamefair for probably twenty years.. maybe more... Just can't kill it, but I reproof it often.
I don't think this model is made anymore, but it's been perfect for my usage.
ImaWestie
11-18-2010, 01:38 AM
Anyone looking for the Driazabone-RM Williams - Akubra triple shot... "Man from Snowy River" style :lol: - nungar.com.au would be a good place to start looking
johnniegold
11-18-2010, 03:02 AM
I have a lightweight Beaufort (with the hood) which is a nice knock-around rain jacket.
Cities
11-19-2010, 04:26 PM
It isn't waxed, but I have a Barbour Wool Sapper jacket that I use into the early winter. The quality is great, and it is quite sharp looking - strangers have stopped to ask me where I got my coat!
Cmaster03
11-21-2010, 08:27 AM
I've been wearing the Barbour almost every day and I am really liking its versatility. Makes a great rain coat and general knocking about jacket, and so far I haven't even needed the liner. The temps haven't really dropped much below freezing even at night around here.
The two big internal poacher pockets have come in handy when walking into the house with an armload of groceries or what have you. The pockets do hold a fifth of good cheer quite well. :sneaky2:
Great coat. :thumbup1:
I just ordered the Hoggs Woodsman Waxed Jacket. I couldn't buy a true weather jacket in stores in my area approaching that price.
Unlike sunny L.A., we do get our share of rain up here in winter, and SWMBO had appropriated my previous rain jacket.
Thanks again B&B, you always come through!
I've received the jacket and am impressed with the workmanship. In looks this is very similar to the Barbour Border model.
Two things I note immediately: it smells like clay. This must be the wax coating. I've worn it (with the attached hood up) during a walk in the rain, about 30 minutes duration, and it performed like a champ.
The zipper is 'backwards' from what Americans might be used to. The zipper tab is on the left. European-style, I suppose? This isn't a deal-breaker by any means but a little awkward for me to get used to. I wanted to note this for the record for other Yank rubes like myself who might not be aware of that.
So far: :thumbup1:
galopede
11-23-2010, 12:28 AM
The zipper is 'backwards' from what Americans might be used to. The zipper tab is on the left. European-style, I suppose? This isn't a deal-breaker by any means but a little awkward for me to get used to. I wanted to note this for the record for other Yank rubes like myself who might not be aware of that.
Ahh, you mean it's on the correct side!:lol:
I have a couple of Drizabone short coats which are excellent but they are all back to front to me with the overlap at the front having the right over the left, which is the women's way to me! That does take some getting used to.
Gareth
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