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goby
07-06-2010, 11:09 AM
I just got back from my third backpacking trip of the season. It was a 6 mile one way trip with my 8 year old to the Trinity Alps. What a great time. He was the youngest kid there, and the lake was still full of ice.

I've continually got lighter and lighter, which makes the trips so much better. No more 50+ pound packs. I had about 15 pounds on my back, and my son had about 7 or 8.

Next week we'll be hiking flat land and spending 2 nights in the Redwoods.

So any backpackers here?

BladeRunner001
07-06-2010, 11:33 AM
I just got back from my third backpacking trip of the season. It was a 6 mile one way trip with my 8 year old to the Trinity Alps. What a great time. He was the youngest kid there, and the lake was still full of ice.

I've continually got lighter and lighter, which makes the trips so much better. No more 50+ pound packs. I had about 15 pounds on my back, and my son had about 7 or 8.

Next week we'll be hiking flat land and spending 2 nights in the Redwoods.

So any backpackers here?

Hey Goby
yes...I used to backpack a lot...not much time these days. Did a lot in Europe and South America. I once back packed Machu Picchu (the Inca Trail in Peru) with 103ºF fever...I think it was poisoning of sorts...couldn't hold much in terms of solid food for 2 days...Fruit juices were a God send and the only thing that kept me going. It's not fun doing this with 65+ lbs on your back and very little energy.

I would have liked to squeeze a New Zealand trip at some point too, but alas wife is not much into backpacking :tongue_sm.

It's always fun. Share some pictures and it is good that you are involving your kids early on...less TV/media and more activities outdoors are a good recipe for a healthy lifestyle.

Cheers,
Robert

Gerald_G
07-06-2010, 01:18 PM
I've done some as well. Still like to once a year or so in the west mountains of Alberta. Some of my memorable trips...

Chilkoot Trail, Alaska/Yukon - 2X
Close to 60km if you hike the train tracks to the highway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilkoot

Cottonwood Trail
http://travelyukon.com/aboutyukonterritory/natureandlandscape/yukonwildernessparks/kluanenationalpark/

Slims River to the Kaskawulsh Glacier.
http://www.clubtread.com/routes/Route.aspx?Route=592

Mount Assiniboine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Assiniboine

talibeard
07-06-2010, 03:27 PM
Yes one more overhere. Did the GR5 (northsee to Mediterranean), the West-Highlandway (Scotland), and a lot of hikes in the Vosges, Alps, Jura, Austria Kroatia, Czech- and Slovak republic, around Juneau (Alaska) and lake Baikal(Russia). Around home as well. My eldest is 8 years old now and I hope to start following a few trails with him real soon.

ctr
07-06-2010, 04:23 PM
I too hike, though not nearly as much as I used to or would like to.

The pack weight dropped as a I got older, except for sleeping pad weight. Its an age thing. :biggrin1:

My base weight hovers around 6 - 7 pounds on most weekend trips, around 12 with food and water. I've got a closet full of gear, but don't seem to find the time these days. Just priorities I guess.

Newfie
07-06-2010, 04:58 PM
I used to spend days backpacking in the area shown below when I was a teenager, moving from place to place with a little El Cheapo pup tent. Now that I've moved back to the area where I grew up, I'm looking forward to doing a few overnighters again, looking for the 2 lb brook trout I used to catch. I haven't been to this area since probably '76.

Unfortunately, ATVs (we call them "Bog Bikes") have given easy access to this area where most were too lazy to walk when I was growing up. Back then it was pristine wilderness and the only trace you could see of previous human presence was the fire pits we used to use. We even used to pick up our shot gun shells in the fall when we were partridge hunting. I highly doubt it looks that way now.:thumbdown

The picture below covers an area I'd guess is ~ 40 sq KMs. If you look right in the center of the screen shot, you'll see an irregularly shaped island in a pond. We built a cabin on that island Labour Day weekend of '72, and the place we used to hide the canoe was ~ 2-1/2 hours hike from the closest you could get with a 4-wheeled vehicle.

tg16
07-07-2010, 06:19 AM
I like backpacking. I'm planning on making a couple of short one or two day trips in north Mississippi this fall.

Wingnut
07-07-2010, 06:40 AM
About 2 months ago I went on my first backpacking trip in over 30 years : 6 days on the Appalachian Trail, from the Penn/Maryland border south to Snicker's Gap VA - 60 miles of trail and we bagged 2 states of the AT as well! We went on the first week in April, and it was 80+ F up on the trail - record-setting high temps, and the leaves hadn't come out yet so it was really sunny.

Like the usual newbie, I severely overpacked and was carrying 38 lbs not counting water. Live and learn, but I loved it and really want to go out again, but not until the heat dissapates (it's going to be 100 F here today).

goby
07-07-2010, 08:02 AM
I really overpacked the food, and brought a couple of meals that needed a skillet.... and of course I didn't have one.

Ultralight is so much better. I don't have SBAD, RAD, or any other "serious" shaving AD, but I love gear! I just picked up a 1 oz titanium alcohol stove which is amazing. I burned 4 oz of alcohol in 2 days. And I got a 1 lb sleeping bag which is amazing. Oh, and the 14 oz tarp (with stakes) for my son and me.

Unfortunately being a gearhead can be spendy, but it is sure worth it when you have 10 pounds or less on your back And to have a lake like this all to yourself is priceless.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs057.snc4/35205_1468354783321_1067129441_1399822_1434363_n.j pg

mikromicke
07-07-2010, 08:50 AM
My wife and I are getting back in the game after the birth of our first baby. She's 7 months now and we've been day hiking with her in Yosemite and in a handful of local parks around here. We're starting to feel ready to head out with a tent and do some real camping again soon :thumbup:

goby
07-07-2010, 09:35 AM
My wife and I are getting back in the game after the birth of our first baby. She's 7 months now and we've been day hiking with her in Yosemite and in a handful of local parks around here. We're starting to feel ready to head out with a tent and do some real camping again soon :thumbup:

Awesome! My son was 18 months when he had a pack on his back and spent the night in the tent. We found the perfect lake.... a 2 hour drive and a 1/4 mile hike. No one was there.

mikromicke
07-07-2010, 09:49 AM
I think, and hope, that it's just a matter of getting out there. Even with kids. As long as you're attentive to when they get fed up with being carried around. We're not exactly aiming for those 10 h hikes over mountains anymore but just being able to get out again feels great.

It's great to hear of other people hiking with young kids. It makes me realize that it is very possible and that we're not completely crazy :biggrin1:

closer
07-10-2010, 09:22 PM
After seeing all these posts of folks hiking with their kids, I'm going to have to rethink what's possible. I used to backpack several years ago. Mostly 1-2 night trips in the Catskills, southern Adirondacks, as well as Green Mountains in Vermont, some longer trips as well. My kids are now 4, we'll probably start by spending a night out in a tent in the backyard.

_JP_
07-14-2010, 08:09 PM
My last backpacking was during the course of several trips in the Boundary Waters region in Minnesota. They were really canoe trips with most of the miles being covered by paddle. But we did have to portage between the lakes. That meant strapping one pack on my back and one on front. Then pick up the canoe an go!

theperfectstorm
07-14-2010, 08:32 PM
New Mexico here. Lincoln NF, Cloudcroft, Pecos Wilderness, Bandelier NM. Getting some snow-shoes so I can get around in winter better.

Edcculus
07-15-2010, 09:45 PM
I used to do a lot of backpacking in college. I went to Clemson, so it was all in the Blue Ridge, Smokies. Went around Pisgah a lot. A friend and I would do a 70 mile trek on a trail that goes through Northern SC and Southwestern NC called The Foothills Trail at the end of each semester.

Still have all my gear and am hoping to get back out there this fall when the weather cools off a bit.

DSB
07-15-2010, 10:18 PM
I love backpacking. Unfortunately, I don't get to go as often as I used to. My last trip was The Lost Coast Trail. Goby, I would love to see your complete gear list. I would love to get below 15 pounds (including food) for a three day trip, but I'm not there yet. Here's a photo from my last trip:

goby
07-16-2010, 07:14 AM
I love backpacking. Unfortunately, I don't get to go as often as I used to. My last trip was The Lost Coast Trail. Goby, I would love to see your complete gear list. I would love to get below 15 pounds (including food) for a three day trip, but I'm not there yet. Here's a photo from my last trip:

The Lost Coast is amazing! It's on my list of places to go this summer, and I think I might actually make it there. But this weekend I think I'm doing a solo in the Trinity Alps.

My list includes the following items:

Golite Backpack (from 5-6 years ago, when they were really light) 1 lb.
Western Mountaineering 35 Degree Sleeping Bag 20 oz
Integral Designs Shelter/Tarp 14 oz
Vargo Titanium Alcohol Stove 1 oz (about 6 oz with 2 days of fuel)
Laundry Line 2 oz (doing laundry while backpacking means only one pair of clothes in my backpack)
REI Titanium Cup and Pot and lid 5 oz
MSR Water Filter 1 lb (I refuse to go ultralight and use tablets. Yuck)

theperfectstorm
07-16-2010, 07:23 AM
The Lost Coast is amazing! It's on my list of places to go this summer, and I think I might actually make it there. But this weekend I think I'm doing a solo in the Trinity Alps.

My list includes the following items:

Golite Backpack (from 5-6 years ago, when they were really light) 1 lb.
Western Mountaineering 35 Degree Sleeping Bag 20 oz
Integral Designs Shelter/Tarp 14 oz
Vargo Titanium Alcohol Stove 1 oz (about 6 oz with 2 days of fuel)
Laundry Line 2 oz (doing laundry while backpacking means only one pair of clothes in my backpack)
REI Titanium Cup and Pot and lid 5 oz
MSR Water Filter 1 lb (I refuse to go ultralight and use tablets. Yuck)

Solid gear.

I added a couple a years ago the Sirius Satellite Radio Stiletto to my kit. It is basically a satellite radio walk-man. Current and detailed weather reports are damned useful in the bush. And listening to a baseball game in the evening on top of a mountain is rather sublime as well.

DSB
07-16-2010, 07:59 PM
Solid gear.

I added a couple a years ago the Sirius Satellite Radio Stiletto to my kit. It is basically a satellite radio walk-man. Current and detailed weather reports are damned useful in the bush. And listening to a baseball game in the evening on top of a mountain is rather sublime as well.

The only electronic gear I like to bring into the woods is a headlamp. My wife is trying to convince me to bring a cell phone, as well, but my thought is that 99% of the time, I'm too far away from a cell phone tower to justify the safety increase. One of the things I like most about backpacking is getting 100% away from "civilization." This includes cell phones, radios, ipods, etc. I don't even like to bring a GPS -- map and compass have always worked just fine for me. This is very personal to me, though. I have no problem with others bringing electronics for their own use (as long as I can't hear it).

DavyRay
07-16-2010, 08:31 PM
I am just about ready to get back on the trail. Mandatory overtime recently has made that harder. I also latched on to the ultralight mode pretty early. My gear (major items, warm weather):

Golite Pack
North Face Flight Sleeping Bag
Alcohol Stove (Robinson cat stove, home-made)
Thermarest 1" self-inflating pad
Sil-nylon tarp
Eureka Gossamer solo tent with fly cut off

My pack is just at 10 pounds without food or water. I also use Black Diamond hiking poles to save my knees on descents, and to add stability on water crossings.

This thread reminds me of how important it is to get back out there. Most of my backpacking has been on the Appalachian Trail in North Carolina and Virginia. I hike in New Balance trail running shoes with Thorlo socks.

theperfectstorm
07-16-2010, 08:43 PM
The only electronic gear I like to bring into the woods is a headlamp. My wife is trying to convince me to bring a cell phone, as well, but my thought is that 99% of the time, I'm too far away from a cell phone tower to justify the safety increase. One of the things I like most about backpacking is getting 100% away from "civilization." This includes cell phones, radios, ipods, etc. I don't even like to bring a GPS -- map and compass have always worked just fine for me. This is very personal to me, though. I have no problem with others bringing electronics for their own use (as long as I can't hear it).


I can dig where you're coming from. I am the same way 90% of the time. But when you're deep in the Quachitas and the weather said Cold but Clear but its actually blowing snow like the clappers in Tulsa and heading down on you like a powdery freight train--this is good information to have.

DSB
07-16-2010, 09:45 PM
I can dig where you're coming from. I am the same way 90% of the time. But when you're deep in the Quachitas and the weather said Cold but Clear but its actually blowing snow like the clappers in Tulsa and heading down on you like a powdery freight train--this is good information to have.

Very true, my friend. I have zero problem with someone else bringing in whatever gear they want/need to make them feel (or actually be) safer, more comfortable, etc. Gear choice is much like wet shaving: YMMV.

This thread really makes me want to go plan my next trip (and go to REI to buy more gear)!

Uncle Erik
07-17-2010, 01:03 AM
I haven't gone in years, but my Boy Scout troop was and is very much into backpacking. I've been through most of the local mountains around LA and into the high Sierras a few times. It would be great to go again - I've spent far too much time in an office tower the past few years.

goby
07-17-2010, 03:50 AM
I am just about ready to get back on the trail. Mandatory overtime recently has made that harder. I also latched on to the ultralight mode pretty early. My gear (major items, warm weather):

Golite Pack
North Face Flight Sleeping Bag
Alcohol Stove (Robinson cat stove, home-made)
Thermarest 1" self-inflating pad
Sil-nylon tarp
Eureka Gossamer solo tent with fly cut off

My pack is just at 10 pounds without food or water. I also use Black Diamond hiking poles to save my knees on descents, and to add stability on water crossings.

This thread reminds me of how important it is to get back out there. Most of my backpacking has been on the Appalachian Trail in North Carolina and Virginia. I hike in New Balance trail running shoes with Thorlo socks.

Treking poles are amazing. I thought they looked silly, and a very smart salesman said "Just trust me.... Get them!" I had no choice. lol (He was a hippie from Arcata who really knew his stuff).

They are soooooo amazing for water crossing. In fact, my 9 year old wants a pair.

Edcculus
07-17-2010, 09:21 AM
Treking poles are amazing. I thought they looked silly, and a very smart salesman said "Just trust me.... Get them!" I had no choice. lol (He was a hippie from Arcata who really knew his stuff).

They are soooooo amazing for water crossing. In fact, my 9 year old wants a pair.

Ha, I thought the same thing! I'd always see people on the trails with them and thought they were sissies. A friend got some and let me try them. Man are they amazing. Esp for navigating down steep rocky trails.

DSB
07-17-2010, 10:49 AM
Treking poles are amazing. I thought they looked silly, and a very smart salesman said "Just trust me.... Get them!" I had no choice. lol (He was a hippie from Arcata who really knew his stuff).

They are soooooo amazing for water crossing. In fact, my 9 year old wants a pair.

My knees have been so much happier since I started using poles. Yeah, they look rediculous, but who cares? I especially like them on hills (both up and down).

mikromicke
07-17-2010, 12:43 PM
I was surprised to see that the hardcore French mountain guides, that grew up and lived in the mountains their entire lives, use trekking poles as well. I've been telling myself to get a pair for about 5 years now. Heading to REI soon so who know ... maybe this time I'll actually buy a pair :)

DSB
07-17-2010, 12:59 PM
I was surprised to see that the hardcore French mountain guides, that grew up and lived in the mountains their entire lives, use trekking poles as well. I've been telling myself to get a pair for about 5 years now. Heading to REI soon so who know ... maybe this time I'll actually buy a pair :)

I see that you're in Palo Alto. Have you hiked the Skyline to the Sea trail? It's very close to you. The trail starts near Castle Rock State Park and ends, predictably, at the Pacific. I backpacked it several years ago -- it's a really fun trail. It's mostly down hill, so it is a killer on the knees. Boy was I glad that I had hiking poles on that trail!

mikromicke
07-17-2010, 04:12 PM
I see that you're in Palo Alto. Have you hiked the Skyline to the Sea trail? It's very close to you. The trail starts near Castle Rock State Park and ends, predictably, at the Pacific. I backpacked it several years ago -- it's a really fun trail. It's mostly down hill, so it is a killer on the knees. Boy was I glad that I had hiking poles on that trail!

Not yet but we have been talking about it. If I got it right it's a 2-3 day hike and I'm not sure I'm ready to do that carrying a 20 lbs baby. She won't get any lighter though so maybe it's better to go as soon as possible.

I got the REI Ultra light hiking poles today so now I'm almost ready :thumbup1:

Jake
07-17-2010, 04:17 PM
I haven't made the transition yet to ultralight. What do you do you do about a bag, tent, pad, cooking gear? How do you get your entire pack for a 6 day hike under 15 pounds? Or do you?

DSB
07-17-2010, 04:33 PM
Not yet but we have been talking about it. If I got it right it's a 2-3 day hike and I'm not sure I'm ready to do that carrying a 20 lbs baby. She won't get any lighter though so maybe it's better to go as soon as possible.

I got the REI Ultra light hiking poles today so now I'm almost ready :thumbup1:

I did it as a three day trip. If I recall correctly, it's a little over 30 miles. The only thing I didn't like about the trail is that the last 10 miles can get a little crowed with day hikers. Since you have a baby with you, you'll probably like that it's not ultra-isolated. You'll have the opportunity to throw away diapers, etc, in Big Basin state park -- they have trash bins.

mikromicke
07-17-2010, 04:47 PM
I did it as a three day trip. If I recall correctly, it's a little over 30 miles. The only thing I didn't like about the trail is that the last 10 miles can get a little crowed with day hikers. Since you have a baby with you, you'll probably like that it's not ultra-isolated. You'll have the opportunity to throw away diapers, etc, in Big Basin state park -- they have trash bins.

Sounds like I'd better start planning that trip then. I'll probably wait a few months to let it cool down a bit though :001_smile

quixand
09-07-2010, 09:54 PM
The only electronic gear I like to bring into the woods is a headlamp. My wife is trying to convince me to bring a cell phone, as well, but my thought is that 99% of the time, I'm too far away from a cell phone tower to justify the safety increase. One of the things I like most about backpacking is getting 100% away from "civilization." This includes cell phones, radios, ipods, etc. I don't even like to bring a GPS -- map and compass have always worked just fine for me. This is very personal to me, though. I have no problem with others bringing electronics for their own use (as long as I can't hear it).

Ditto. Although me and another girl in my group did manage to get lost in the mist trying to leave the campground yesterday morning and ended up walking in a circle and returning to same group of people we left 10 minutes earlier :blush::001_rolle

As for the backpacking... Well... I live in Vancouver BC. Within 1 hour's drive I can count at least 10 different weekend hikes/scrambles to places where no wheeled vehicle can get, and where the nature is as pristine as it gets. Add 1-4 hours to the driving range and the number goes up to the high hundreds. I try to go out every weekend through the summer, though now with school starting, and work remaining full time as it is (e.g. 2 days of school and 5 days of work), I'm going to have a harder time booking myself some off-time from civilization.

I usually carry 15 +-2 kg, though I could easily go down into the 8kg range including tent, sleeping bag/pad, clothes, gear and food for a 3-4 day trip. The only problem there is that once winter kicks in, I'll have to start carrying more gear, and I'd rather not get too comfortable with the light-weight packs over the summer, then have a hard time in winter (or worse, pack too light and get caught up in conditions I'm not ready for).
My current goal is to reach the point where I can carry up to 25kg with ease before I start heading in the ultra-light direction, though that's more of a work-out goal than a real mountaineering necessity. 15kg should be fine for pretty much any trip shorter than a week, regardless of the climate.


Here are some pics from this long weekend's trip to Wedgemont Lake and the scramble up to Weart* peak (about half an hour north of Whistler, on the very edge of Geribaldi Park):
http://picasaweb.google.com/mcclouded/ShuviSPicsFromMountaineeringCamp#
http://picasaweb.google.com/mcclouded/NissanSPicsFromMountaineeringCamp#

(I'm the one with the dorky gray hat who's trying to do a t-rex in one of the pictures)

* We stopped taking pictures when the clouds got so thick that we could barely see our own feet.

DSB
09-08-2010, 01:03 PM
Here are some pics from this long weekend's trip to Wedgemont Lake and the scramble up to Weart* peak (about half an hour north of Whistler, on the very edge of Geribaldi Park):
http://picasaweb.google.com/mcclouded/ShuviSPicsFromMountaineeringCamp#
http://picasaweb.google.com/mcclouded/NissanSPicsFromMountaineeringCamp#

(I'm the one with the dorky gray hat who's trying to do a t-rex in one of the pictures)

* We stopped taking pictures when the clouds got so thick that we could barely see our own feet.


Looks like a fun trip. I love the photos of the glacial ice!

Space
09-14-2010, 08:24 PM
I backpacked around teh eastern half of australia for 4 months and all of new zealand for about 5 months. it was fantastic!

I just did a smaller trip around the pacific northwest this past week.