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jelly
05-15-2010, 10:30 PM
I'm sitting here after my second DE shave in my life with a slightly red face and few nicks, but I have to say I've never had so much fun shaving.

My new-to-me 40s (looks like a '47 to me -- sweet!) Gillette Super Speed starter kit came in from B&B member insomniac the other day, and I set down to work. I'm sticking with Personna Reds, Col. Conk Amber on a Penworks pure badger hair brush (using the prominent soap-lather building in-the-mug guide on here, which works pretty damn good), and Pinaud Clubman alcohol-based aftershave.

I have to give serious props to the Pinaud Clubman, my girlfriend LOVES the smell. Somebody on here reviewed it as smelling like "mechanical" stuff or a "cowboy" aftershave. And my girlfriend said it did remind her of her grandpa at first. But hey, he's a badass Vietnam war veteran/helicopter pilot so I'm not sweating it. It also burns pretty good, but I actually like that. And it being alcohol based is really nice, it really helps tone/tighten and dry my semi-oily skin. Feels really good to me.

I'm mixing all this into my already pretty involved skin-care routine that I have to manage some acne/oily skin issues which includes: Clean & Clear 2% salicylic acid astringent, OXY Maximum 10% benzoyl peroxide facewash and AcneFree 10% benzoyl peroxide time-release acne spot treatment.

Yeah, my skin is fussy. I'm 21, it's tough. But right now, I'm all clear. We'll see where it goes from here.

Also, from my girlfriend, "I never knew you being smooth-shaven could be so sexy!" Seriously, I've lived with a RBS (Rock Bottom Shave) for years. Three-day stubble. Just getting it so I don't look homeless with an electric razor. I've never got so much face attention from her and we've been together 4 years.

But as to my technique, I need some pointers guys.

Shave #1: I got BBS/DFS but it wasn't too comfortable and took over an hour-and-a-half to do. I spent a lot of time trying to get the angles down from guides on here, and it is tough to a total newbie.

Didn't get a very good lather first time doing it but it was usable. Problem was I was going so slow it would start to dry out before I got done with the spot I was doing. Lots of relathering.

Lots of doing over spots over and over again because I'd barely take enough off. However, this was a 4-day stubble fest. But whoever said the 40s SS makes a nice chewy noise when you've got the angle right was RIGHT. This thing gives awesome feedback to when I'm getting the job done.

Tried to do a little ATG and failed. Nicked my chin a damn good one right under along the jawbone. My hair there grows in about 3 different directions though, so it's a real challenge. I think until I get really good at this, the most I can hope for there is CCS without spilling blood.

Shave #2: DFS with BBS on cheeks (where I actually succeeded in going ATG). Already, much better angle. Starting to feel easier/more confident with the razor when before there was a lot of hesitation/experimentation. Way faster shave. About 30 mins.

Got a damn fine lather this time! Remembered to really fluff up that brush and roll on the face, then brush over fast in one direction. Made a much better shaving feel. Kept the razor a lot wetter too, which also helped.

This was basically a maintenance shave. I was so excited to try shaving again, I barely had a shadow. So this encouraged me to really try to do it right. Much better approach with WTG & remembering to only do XTG. Got a DFS on chin, upper lip, neck and sideburns. Went ATG on my cheeks (where the beard is pretty thin), and got BBS there with pretty much no irritation. Girlfriend = pleased.

However, I'm having trouble doing my jaw line. Getting some serious redness there from trying to pull up the skin to shave. Maybe it's pressure while I'm doing this? The whole jawline operation is pretty tough, especially with slippery soap skin. What works for you guys?

My upper lip also isn't too happy. I go WTG and then XTG both from the left and right, and I get DFS but it feels a bit sore. Not really too much redness though.

***I think pressure and knowing what angle I should be shaving in are my main problems. I try to hold the razor as light as I can but when I get to concentrating on the angle/direction/keeping it wet, I can lose that concentration.

This is really the shaving equivalent of driving a 5-speed. But I wouldn't drive anything else so I'm sticking with it.

I have to say the feel of the hot nickel-plated steel is really nice. I'm seeing the dream shaving experience. I love my 40s SS. Just right now, I'm not getting a shave really any different than I did with the Mach 3. About the same closeness (a little better with the DE), and about the same irritation.

Practice, practice ...

djh
05-15-2010, 11:45 PM
You have said it yourself............. practice, practice...... and the results will come. Don't stress yourself and expect perfect shaves immediately- just work on getting all of the small components of a good shave (prep, lather, blade angle etc) to come together and things will improve.
Please keep at it and let us know how things are going after a few more attempts.
BTW- welcome to B+B and it sounds as if you are doing a good job so far! If the lather is drying on your face because you are shaving slowly, just lather half (or even a smaller part) of your face at a time.

Optometrist
05-16-2010, 03:45 AM
It only gets better and better!

David

stubble trouble
05-16-2010, 04:34 AM
+1 on the Clubman - especially in a day and age where everybody wants to smell like a room deodorizer, Alpine this, sport that. Nothing against the "crisp clean" smelling products (ie. Adidas AS), just nice to have clubman as an alternative. Welcome Nathan, and enjoy your shaving odyssey.:thumbup1:

Johnny Dale
05-16-2010, 06:35 AM
It only gets better and better!

+1 :001_smile

akokandy
05-16-2010, 06:43 AM
Just keep at it man; you'll do better and better each time. It took me about a month before I really figured out how to get my chin better than DFS. It takes slow ATG movement and sometimes more than one touch-up to get smooth. I have a really prominent chin/jawline, though, so you may pick it up faster than me. It was about a week before I got really good lather, and that was the biggest difference for me.

Welcome to B&B, and I can't wait to see how well your shaves are after a week!

pal
05-16-2010, 04:48 PM
Just hang in there before you know it you will be shaving without even thinking about it.

DizzyArnaz
05-16-2010, 05:00 PM
Your skin will toughen up as it gets used to the routine of using a DE. I just did 1x WTG and 1x XTG for the first couple of weeks, then started experimenting with the ATG pass. No need to worry about getting a BBS shave right off the bat, a DFS is indistinguishable from a BBS to anyone outside of yourself...just work on keeping proper blade angle and your prep consistent, and you'll progress.

Good luck and welcome to the forums.

pauls51
05-16-2010, 05:05 PM
The more you shave, the better your technique will get and the better shave you'll get!..

There isn't much more to it!

Sir Ronald
05-17-2010, 06:24 AM
I'll second the advice that there is no need to go for BBS straight away. Give yourself time to master your technique.... worst thing you can do is make multiple passes over one spot in an attempt to get as smooth as possible. stick with WTG for a little while, throwing in the occasional XTG. if your upper lip is getting irritated from 2 XTG passes, drop one of those passes. go slow... and enjoy yourself :)

Deltaboy
05-17-2010, 06:40 AM
Keep it up and I too love the REDS it is my daily blade.

stubble trouble
05-17-2010, 06:51 AM
Hey Nathan,

Just wanted to see how things are goin'. Another thing that I could suggest, is doing full multipass shaves one segment of face/neck at a time.That is, just lather the face and do your two pass shave completely (warm rinse off, too). Then, do a two pass shave completely on upper-mid neck (also including full warm rinse off). Then, finally do a 1-2 pass cycle on lower neck, completely. Then rinse entire face/neck and touch up as necessary. I do this because these three areas, in my case, are unique in skin sensitivity, amount of growth, direction of growth, type of whiskers. Just a thought. Good luck, bud!

moonshine44
05-17-2010, 07:12 AM
Sounds like lots of good advice, so I'll just say Welcome!

jelly
05-27-2010, 02:17 PM
Hey Nathan,

Just wanted to see how things are goin'. Another thing that I could suggest, is doing full multipass shaves one segment of face/neck at a time.That is, just lather the face and do your two pass shave completely (warm rinse off, too). Then, do a two pass shave completely on upper-mid neck (also including full warm rinse off). Then, finally do a 1-2 pass cycle on lower neck, completely. Then rinse entire face/neck and touch up as necessary. I do this because these three areas, in my case, are unique in skin sensitivity, amount of growth, direction of growth, type of whiskers. Just a thought. Good luck, bud!

Great advice!

Sorry for being MIA for a few weeks. I got hit with finals and had a few intense final projects due. I'm in my senior year studying journalism, and there's no fooling around anymore. But, on to the shaving ...

I admit, during finals I didn't have time to go through the time to build a lather, so I've been using Gillette Foamy out of the can. Shame shame, I know. However, it gives a good thick lather without having to soak and build and softens the stubble very well. But, I've noticed when it dries on the skin, it gets really sticky. So if you're using anything out of a can with a DE, better to do one area at a time and keep it wet.

Most of my shaves have been speed shaves in the morning after I'd stayed up half the night and crashed for a few hours sleep. And I'd skip a day between shaves. Not ideal conditions. However, using Stubble Trouble's advice to basically, shave in one spot until I got it right, really did the trick. I decided to shave one half the face including jawline/under chin, then the other half, then the full neck. I have a stubble-swirl on the left side of my neck, so I take some special care there. I also have used the '3-Pass' Shave Guide on here for some basic instruction, especially the bit about pulling the skin up at your cheek to get your jawline.

My main trouble starting off I think was mostly not paying close enough attention to which direction my stubble is growing in. Shaving in one area started to really teach me 'the lay of the land' and where I could get away with ATG without blood or irritation.

Got to say, I'm up to about my 10th shave with the DE now, and I get absolute no irritation whatsoever, not even with a 3-day face forest. No pulling, nothing, superb comfort. And I've started to pull off some amazing shaves.

At about shave #5-6, I took some extra time to really do a full multipass: WTG all over, XTG from left and right on upper lip, chin, and neck, and some ATG on my cheeks/sideburns and some touch-ups -- maybe a 30-45 min shave. Serious, perfect BBS. I was blown away. I had to call my girlfriend into the bathroom to touch my face. The best shave I've honestly ever experienced in my life.

And this was using the same Personna blade since shave #1, my 'unaggressive' 40s SS, and some Gillette Foamy out of the can.

From there though, I've had a series of consistently good shaves. I do basically the same routine, WTG all over, XTG from left and right, and some ATG where I've learned I can get away with it. My 40s SS has performed above and beyond the call of duty. It lets me know when I'm lining things up with great tactile and chewy-stubble noise feedback. I may not think there's any stubble left in an area, but I run the SS over it XTG and hear the 'kshhh' of the blade mowing it down. Very hard to cut myself with. Can't imagine why this kind of shaving became extinct!

I can run through a shave in 10 mins now and get a DFS without any irritation, and I have sensitive skin. The M3 used to make me red as a lobster. And I'd still consider myself a total beginner. To anyone on the fence about this, forget it. This is it.

Now, on to perfecting building a good lather and continuing the pursuit of consistently perfect shave technique :biggrin1: ...