Not to get political, but have you seen this? Bacon inside.

[americanarmsdealer]

For those of you that were worried about a National ID card (surely there are at least a few of us here), and what that could possibly entail ("Papers, please."), what about a government mandated implanted microchip, suppossedly to keep track of your medical records for ease of access? Yet another piece of frightening legislation hidden within the so-called "Health Care Bill". Check this out: http://goldfuture.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/both-house-and-senate-health-bills-require-the-micro-chipping-of-americans-31810/

[Obsessed]

I always thought the purpose of the microchip was to make it easy for my dog to find me if I get lost.

[timj219]

Not to get too political but I wonder where all these newborn civil libertarians were when the last admin was wiretapping the phones of US citizens without a warrant and checking up on our reading habits?

On a nonpartisan note it's become pretty clear that it will not be possible to live in a modern society with all its benefits and economic advantages while maintaining the freedoms that belonged to a less developed, less technically advanced, and less controlled time. It's a good thing to keep an eye on each new violation of our liberties and privacy but the causes are intrinsic to our culture and economic system. And as long as partisanship shows like it does when half the country applauds domestic spying while the other half applauds chip implants it's pretty easy to see where we are headed.

[Walt Whitman]

Nothing but bad ahead, I suspect...

Both in this thread and in society, as a whole...

Gracefully, stepping back from the fray.

[col conk]

Not to be political, but have you noticed that site is pretty heavy on using Glenn Beck for serious quotes.:crazy:
I would take such a site with a grain of:

[Walter Sobchak]

Nothing but bad ahead, I suspect...

Both in this thread and in society, as a whole...

Gracefully, stepping back from the fray.

Don't know where you're going, but I'm with you.:thumbup1:

[Nishnabotna]

Not to get too political but I wonder where all these newborn civil libertarians were when the last admin was wiretapping the phones of US citizens without a warrant and checking up on our reading habits?

On a nonpartisan note it's become pretty clear that it will not be possible to live in a modern society with all its benefits and economic advantages while maintaining the freedoms that belonged to a less developed, less technically advanced, and less controlled time. It's a good thing to keep an eye on each new violation of our liberties and privacy but the causes are intrinsic to our culture and economic system. And as long as partisanship shows like it does when half the country applauds domestic spying while the other half applauds chip implants it's pretty easy to see where we are headed.

I think you are wrong about that. Half the country didn't applaud either one of those things, you just heard the loudest voices on each side of the isle. I believe that most of the people are squarely in the middle of most of these fights, agreeing with parts of each side, but mostly not doing anything. If the apathetic middle would find some energy to do something, politics would be entirely different.
Then again, if I'M wrong about this, we've already screwed the pooch and it's a long trip down the hill.

[timj219]

Nothing but bad ahead, I suspect...

Both in this thread and in society, as a whole...

Gracefully, stepping back from the fray.LOL not to worry. Things have been going to hell for a few thousand years and we struggle through somehow. And political differences are good. As long as they are viewed as opportunities to find common ground. It forces us to reexamine our beliefs when people with whom we otherwise share a common interest disagree with us on political issues.

[airplanedoc]

I already have a government microchip. It was implanted at the top secret government lab when the aliens abducted me.

[Austin]

I already have a government microchip. It was implanted at the top secret government lab when the aliens abducted me.

:blink::lol::lol::lol:

[Obsessed]

I already have a government microchip. It was implanted at the top secret government lab when the aliens abducted me.

It zapped you after you posted that, right? If not, please report back to Area 51 to have it repaired.

[raisindot]

Typical lies.

Look closely at the actual documents this joker puts on his site and you'll see that none of them have ANYTHING to do with HR 3962, the health care reform bill that just passed. Everything else is unrelated recommendation from old documents or old versions of bills whose provisions were long ago removed. Even those that mention data-trackingdevices only refer to them in the context of life-saving devices. Nowhere is there any mention of implanting RFID devices into every American. In case, it's a dumb idea that never went anywhere.

Don't take my word for it. Do a search of HR 3962 and look for yourself. You won't find any language of this kind in there.

Jeff in Boston

[timj219]

I think you are wrong about that. Half the country didn't applaud either one of those things, you just heard the loudest voices on each side of the isle. I believe that most of the people are squarely in the middle of most of these fights, agreeing with parts of each side, but mostly not doing anything. If the apathetic middle would find some energy to do something, politics would be entirely different.
Then again, if I'M wrong about this, we've already screwed the pooch and it's a long trip down the hill.I think you're partly right. Ignorance and apathy are the big problem here. Too many people are too easily satisfied with platitudes and sound bites and want nothing more than to be told what they already want to believe. And too many others simply aren't paying attention.

[airplanedoc]

It zapped you after you posted that, right? If not, please report back to Area 51 to have it repaired.

On my way, please ask the guards not to shoot when I get to the gate.

No zap but I did notice a black Helicopter hovering near by. Oh crap they are here..... Please Hel

[Walt Whitman]

On my way, please ask the guards not to shoot when I get to the gate.

No zap but I did notice a black Helicopter hovering near by. Oh crap they are here..... Please Hel

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I'm still laughing!!

[col conk]

Just because your parinoid , does'nt mean that were still not out to get you!:001_smile

[mhuelskamp]

Don't know where you're going, but I'm with you.:thumbup1:

WAIT FOR MEEEEE!!! I purposefully avoid conversations about politics, religion, and sports when in public forum. It can only lead to ill later.

[mhuelskamp]

LOL not to worry. Things have been going to hell for a few thousand years and we struggle through somehow. And political differences are good. As long as they are viewed as opportunities to find common ground. It forces us to reexamine our beliefs when people with whom we otherwise share a common interest disagree with us on political issues.

Bravo... Good show. :thumbup:

P.S. :001_tonguI'm really leaving now.

[Obsessed]

WAIT FOR MEEEEE!!! I purposefully avoid conversations about politics, religion, and sports when in public forum. It can only lead to ill later.

No kidding - did you see what just happened to airplanedoc?

[82R100]

WAIT FOR MEEEEE!!! I purposefully avoid conversations about politics, religion, and sports when in public forum. It can only lead to ill later.

Oh, but you see this is not to get political! :thumbup1:

[The Nid Hog]

I always thought the purpose of the microchip was to make it easy for my dog to find me if I get lost.

No, it's a B&B exclusive. It's kind of like those buzzers you get at restaurants. We'll get a little jolt ahead of time so that we can be clean shaven at the apocalypse.

[tg16]

I already have a government microchip. It was implanted at the top secret government lab when the aliens abducted me.

I know, it was done at the LIGO. I was there. A microsized tattoo was also placed on you and it reads, "Taladega 500"

[TonyH]

http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/tinfoil.jpg

[knlgskr]

Think the world is run with much/any intelligence? Ninny/nanny state whatever, think much of anything the electorate says/does makes much difference to those we elected? Kinda funny though observing their foibles in a macabre sense of the term.

[LarryAndro]

I don't subscribe to the belief that the world, or even America is in a death spiral. Rather, the opposite.

I was raised in a very fundamental Protestant denomination and was taught that "men's hearts will grow increasingly evil, leading to Armageddon and the end of the world."

Imagine my surprise to find that many types of crime are going down, and have gone down for decades. Similarly, when I was growing up in rural Missouri, it was routine for fathers to molest their daughters, and for men to molest small girls with little consequence. Now, there are protections for women that are much better. African-Americans, in the town where I was raised, are no longer living in one little section of town, washing every one else's laundry.

I think my world is getting better. I hope yours is as well...

[Go West Young Man]

Typical lies.

Look closely at the actual documents this joker puts on his site and you'll see that none of them have ANYTHING to do with HR 3962, the health care reform bill that just passed. Everything else is unrelated recommendation from old documents or old versions of bills whose provisions were long ago removed. Even those that mention data-trackingdevices only refer to them in the context of life-saving devices. Nowhere is there any mention of implanting RFID devices into every American. In case, it's a dumb idea that never went anywhere.

Don't take my word for it. Do a search of HR 3962 and look for yourself. You won't find any language of this kind in there.

Jeff in Boston

+1. Slate.com has an interesting article up this week on the 4 biggest whompers being told about the health care bill. It basically comes down to someone purposely misinterpreting or bending the intent of a specific provision in the most partisan way, and then everyone else just hitting <forward> without actually checking the facts.

http://www.slate.com/id/2249125/

[slcsteve]

Not to get political, I really like bacon.

[Austin]

Not to get political, I really like bacon.

I love BLT's myself. :w00t:

[mmack66]

Man, I love April Fool's Day.

[jazzman]

The main reason I joined B&B in 2006 was to implant chips in every member, while membership grew and grew. It enters through your keyboard, through your fingers, whenever you view a thread with one of my posts. My work is almost done.

[Prince]

Not to get political, I really like bacon.

Woohoo!! 27 posts into this thread and we are talking about bacon.

Much, much better than politics.

So who else likes really crispy bacon?

I for one don't like the limp chewy bacon. :thumbup1:

[proxymoron]

I don't subscribe to the belief that the world, or even America is in a death spiral. Rather, the opposite.

Only because it stands out: what exactly is the opposite of a death spiral? :wink2:

[luvmysuper]

I am no fan of the health care bill, but this is just the biggest load of steaming guano I have ever seen.

There has indeed been talk recently about the medical device registry and data contained within medically implanted devices - but that discussion revolves around the medical devices that have ALREADY been implanted in people (pacemakers, drug dispensers etc) that may subject the patient to having his personal information obtained by unauthorized parties.

The discussions have been about how to protect those people, and future implant patients so that necessary information can be obtained by medical personnel, but the patients rights to privacy are protected.

I hate Chicken Littles, no matter what their political or ideological perspective is, if this is not some sick twisted April Fools Joke (and the dates listed on that web site don't look like it) .

[Razdict]

I thought the clown house thread was down?

[pyrrhusmj]

I hate Chicken Littles, no matter what their political or ideological perspective is, if this is not some sick twisted April Fools Joke (and the dates listed on that web site don't look like it) .

And the person who posted in named American Arms Dealer from Amarillo (my hometown)... so yah it probably isn't a joke o Americanarmsdealer..... We are crazy up there :).

[slcsteve]

The main reason I joined B&B in 2006 was to implant chips in every member, while membership grew and grew. It enters through your keyboard, through your fingers, whenever you view a thread with one of my posts. My work is almost done.

I absolutely will not, under any circumstances, allow you to put a chip in my member.:scared:

[Alacrity59]

Are they chocolate chips? I'm very anti politically pro chips in that case.

[Alacrity59]

I do think the world has moved on beyond the chipping issue. Marketers have been testing facial recognition for many years and in Great Britain with CCTV cameras all over the place they have software that figures out when the actions on camera indicate a crime is likely to take place. At the same time there seems to be a booming trade in IFRD proof carrying cases for Passports and money. Apparently the US govt has speech recognition software looking for certain phrases so I always start a conversation with J Edgar . . . well never mind.

[mrbear]

Not to get political, I really like bacon.

mmmmm.... bacon :thumbup1:

[Stubblefield]

Not to get political, I really like bacon.I for one welcome our new microchipping bacon loving overlords.

[richmondesi]

Not to get too political but I wonder where all these newborn civil libertarians were when the last admin was wiretapping the phones of US citizens without a warrant and checking up on our reading habits?

Not to get too political, but I learned of the government wiretapping program when Clinton was in office :wink2:

Did someone say Bacon? :w00t:

[Stubblefield]

Did someone say Bacon? :w00t:If you can conduct a wiretap with bacon, please show me where I can sign up as a spy. :lol:

[Walter Sobchak]

I wasn't going to come near this thread again, but when I just opened up B&B I smelled something delicious. Figured since this was a political thread it HAD to be Beggin' Strips...but NOOO, It's BAAACON!

My good men, thank you for representing perhaps the most universal of meats.

And for drawing me back in here.

[luvmysuper]

Are there bacon chips?

Yes there are!!

(and LOL in the title too!! :w00t:)
.

[Duckster]

Are there bacon chips?

Yes there are!!

(and LOL in the title too!! :w00t:)
.

I'd like to implant those chips into my belly!

[raisindot]

Not to get political, I really like bacon.

Look, you said you were't going to get political, but here you go discussing pork projects. Hyporkcrite!

:tongue_sm

Jeff in Boston

[slcsteve]

"Discretion in speech is more than eloquence."


Sir Francis Bacon

[luvmysuper]

"Any idiot can get laid when they're famous. That's easy. It's getting laid when you're not famous that takes some talent."

Kevin Bacon

[Obsessed]

Look, you said you were't going to get political, but here you go discussing pork projects. Hyporkcrite!

:tongue_sm

Jeff in Boston

Ok, that's pretty good!

[Stubblefield]

“Mmmm. Move over, eggs. Bacon just got a new best friend - fudge.”

Homer Simpson

[Russtopher]

I'm really happy to see this thread. I have been on B&B for only a few weeks now, but I've enjoyed it immensely and learned quite a lot. In the back of my mind, however, lurked the fear that I'd find some thread somewhere involving politics, and it would be an ugly flamewar. I worried I'd see posters that I've come to respect viciously attacking something I agree with and that I'd never think of them the same way again. I'm grown up enough to know that not everyone agrees with me, and there's a way to debate ideas in a friendly, mature way. That of course rarely happens on the Internet. I was so worried I would see that... and now I see this.

Thanks, everyone, for taking a step back and not fighting over anything more significant than Williams Shaving Soap.

And now, to bring it back to the topic at hand...
http://blogchef.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/crispy_bacon_1.jpg

WOOOOOO BACON!!!!

[ouch]

And as long as partisanship shows like it does when half the country applauds domestic spying while the other half applauds chip implants it's pretty easy to see where we are headed.

Implanting spies?

[SUMMERSRL]

LOL not to worry. Things have been going to hell for a few thousand years and we struggle through somehow. And political differences are good. As long as they are viewed as opportunities to find common ground. It forces us to reexamine our beliefs when people with whom we otherwise share a common interest disagree with us on political issues.

Well said. Extremists on both the left and the right have ruined our current political environment. I suspect it will remain at a standstill until the great, largely silent, moderate center knocks both sides to the curb and makes things right. Until then... well... more of this kind of scaremongering.....

[Masterofsparks]

I already have a government microchip. It was implanted at the top secret government lab when the aliens abducted me.

Yea but you know what really upsets me is they put the microchip in the same place where they did my anal probe......

Did somebody say bacon.............hmmmmmm bacon!

What were we talking about? Where is my tin foil hat? Black helicopters hovering over my house....arghhhhhhhhh!

hmmmmm bacon.................all better now!

[Stubblefield]

Did somebody say bacon.............hmmmmmm bacon!

What were we talking about? Where is my tin foil hat? Black helicopters hovering over my house....arghhhhhhhhh!
I hope those black ops helicopters are bringing BACON!

[luvmysuper]

I hope those black ops helicopters are bringing BACON!

They are bringing free live turkeys to give away. :lol: :lol:

[Stubblefield]

They are bringing free live turkeys to give away. :lol: :lol:

"It's a helicopter, and it's coming this way. It's flying something behind it, I can't quite make it out, it's a large banner and it says, uh - Happy... Thaaaaanksss... giving! ... From ... W ... K ... R... P!! No parachutes yet. Can't be skydivers... I can't tell just yet what they are, but - Oh my God, Johnny, they're turkeys!! Johnny, can you get this? Oh, they're plunging to the earth right in front of our eyes! One just went through the windshield of a parked car! Oh, the humanity! The turkeys are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement! Not since the Hindenburg tragedy has there been anything like this!"

[Nishnabotna]

As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly...

[The Nid Hog]

Only because it stands out: what exactly is the opposite of a death spiral? :wink2:

it's a life reverse spiral, silly.

[The Nid Hog]

I am no fan of the health care bill, but this is just the biggest load of steaming guano I have ever seen.

There has indeed been talk recently about the medical device registry and data contained within medically implanted devices - but that discussion revolves around the medical devices that have ALREADY been implanted in people (pacemakers, drug dispensers etc) that may subject the patient to having his personal information obtained by unauthorized parties.

The discussions have been about how to protect those people, and future implant patients so that necessary information can be obtained by medical personnel, but the patients rights to privacy are protected.

I hate Chicken Littles, no matter what their political or ideological perspective is, if this is not some sick twisted April Fools Joke (and the dates listed on that web site don't look like it) .

Don't get too upset about it. There's a provision in the bill where you can opt out of the government mandated installation, although you will be required to implant your own device. Unfortunately, the commercially available models are still based on tube technology, so it will be a bit tricky to get it in there. Experts also think that it will be a problem for aviation security, but you will have the option to bulk mail yourself to your desired destination.

[tg16]

If you can conduct a wiretap with bacon, please show me where I can sign up as a spy. :lol:

If all the Bacon Spy jobs are taken, you can come plant Bacon in my house. Does this sort of sound like Jethro Bodine, "I want to be a double ought spy or a fry cook."

[airplanedoc]

On my way, please ask the guards not to shoot when I get to the gate.

No zap but I did notice a black Helicopter hovering near by. Oh crap they are here..... Please Hel


I'm back, I don't really remember much about what happened after the flash bang went off, but I woke up this morning in the front yard face down in the flower garden next to the porch. I feel like I have been out for a long night of drinking, and the right side of my butt hurts.

[Prince]

Ok, crispy or chewy bacon?


Come on, you know which one you like.


Me, crispy. Mmmm. Mmmmm.

[Razdict]

Bacon. The great equalizer.

[Masterofsparks]

Ok, crispy or chewy bacon?


Come on, you know which one you like.


Me, crispy. Mmmm. Mmmmm.


Hmmmmm I had like 8 slices of crispy slices of bacon for breakfast this morning!!!!

Yummy!

[oscarbowman]

Hmmmmmm bacon.
I'm not allowed bacon by my vegetarian daughter!!:closedeye
She doesn't like peas!:sad:
I asked her what sort of vegetarian doesn't like peas??:confused1

[Stubblefield]

Bacon. The great equalizer.And ultimate thread derailer.

[Duckster]

And ultimate thread derailer.

:confused1 That looks like the cheese train. Mmmm cheeeese

[Stubblefield]

:confused1 That looks like the cheese train. Mmmm cheeeeseThe Cheeeeeezzzzzzzy Bacon Train. :thumbup1:

[spoondude]

I never thought of bacon as being such a hostile, passive-aggressive rally point. And then cheese? Is the OP's original post so threatening that you feel it necessary to cloud his signal with noise? What's actually threatening about it?

It's more gentlemanly to debate, or ignore, then to shout down.

I don't happen to agree with the OP, but think our congress should be put up on treason charges for the bailouts and "health care reform". Luckily for them, I am a completely unquestionably insignificant nobody - but it would be cool if I was some great charismatic leader :-)

[82R100]

If the OP wanted a debate, he shouldn't have started out with the disingenuous "not to get political" subject line.

Bacon's the opposite of hostile for most of us (excepting those who prefer the aroma of grilled asparagus :smile:).

[plexibass]

Not to get too political but I wonder where all these newborn civil libertarians were when the last admin was wiretapping the phones of US citizens without a warrant and checking up on our reading habits?



Pretty much the same place they were when Barry renewed this act earlier in the year.

[Obsessed]

Bacon is indeed a good diversion from the "debate," but if we want to divert attention from the debate about the debate, we may need to go whole hog.

[Stubblefield]

I never thought of bacon as being such a hostile, passive-aggressive rally point. And then cheese? Is the OP's original post so threatening that you feel it necessary to cloud his signal with noise? What's actually threatening about it?

It's more gentlemanly to debate, or ignore, then to shout down.
Thread drift/derailment on political threads is pretty common on B&B--Especially ones posted to The Clown House. The very name of the forum should suggest that it is all not to be taken seriously.

Speaking of serious, I'm in need of some serious bacon. With asparagus. Whole hog.

[luvmysuper]

Thread drift/derailment on political threads is pretty common on B&B--Especially ones posted to The Clown House. The very name of the forum should suggest that it is all not to be taken seriously.

Speaking of serious, I'm in need of some serious bacon. With asparagus. Whole hog.

Well said sir!!!


If the OP wanted a debate, he shouldn't have started out with the disingenuous "not to get political" subject line.

Bacon's the opposite of hostile for most of us (excepting those who prefer the aroma of grilled asparagus :smile:).

I agree (except for the grilled asparagus bit. I find asparagus smells much better when wrapped and fried in bacon)

[bazwalk]

I've been 'in country' since Christmas. I would sell my soul (or Fatboy) for a bacon sandwich :001_tt1:

[Obsessed]

I never thought of bacon as being such a hostile, passive-aggressive rally point. And then cheese? Is the OP's original post so threatening that you feel it necessary to cloud his signal with noise? What's actually threatening about it?

It's more gentlemanly to debate, or ignore, then to shout down.


Thread drift/derailment on political threads is pretty common on B&B--Especially ones posted to The Clown House. The very name of the forum should suggest that it is all not to be taken seriously.

In the almost two years I've been a member here, we've had a number of interesting political debates that have remained gentlemanly for a surprisingly long time. We've also had a number that have crashed and burned in a very ugly way. Usually you can tell which is which early on, and members have increasingly taken it on themselves to deploy the BACON (Bacon and Cheese Online Negation) system to stop the train wrecks before they start. And you'll forgive me for being blunt, but threads that start off with the government-mandated microchip are heading off a cliff at full throttle as soon as they leave the station.

[knlgskr]

Not to get too political, but I learned of the government wiretapping program when Clinton was in office :wink2:

Did someone say Bacon? :w00t:


Would anyone be surprised if wiretapping has been done as long as the technology has been available by all administrations? I would be more surprised if it had not been done.

[pyrrhusmj]

I've been 'in country' since Christmas. I would sell my soul (or Fatboy) for a bacon sandwich :001_tt1:

I had a co-worker who spent to in Saudi Arabia.... He said he would plan vacations to Greece so that he could eat Pork for the whole week (and knowing him, drink). Never thought I would miss pork enough to plan a vacation around it, but then I have plenty of pork :).