My banned soaps

[luvmysuper]

Well, so many soaps out there to like, it's nigh impossible to name them.
Much easier to name the soaps that I just can't stand;

Cella - in the Cellar
Speick - is it just coincidence that its name is similar to a command given to a dog?
Van Der Hagen - a buck and a half for creepy flesh toned baby powder smelling slimy mucous?
Tabac - lathers like dish soap and smells like it (after you've washed the ferret).
Arko - not bad actually, if you're too poor to buy something decent.
Prairie Creations - need we say any more than just that?

Just my opinion.

YMMV

[dbconlin]

Ha ha...what don't you like about Speick?

[brianw]

Holy cow Phil ??? I hope you went to the cellar and brought out the gloves... there are going to be some jabs coming...

If they made a lilac vegetal soap would you buy it???

[mblakele]

Phil, the trick is to never lend your Tabac to a ferret. Let him buy his own soap.

[mdunn]

Tabac - lathers like dish soap and smells like it (after you've washed the ferret)

:scared:

thems fightin words! :001_tt2:

[Trendkill]

Let the hate flow through you.

[SliceOfLife]

I've seen every soap here on multiple users "favorites" list. The only ones I haven't seen a consensus of at least "very good" on are PC and VDH.


Are you lathering with Chlorine or something?

[Obsessed]

Let the hate flow through you.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Seraphim]

My banned list:

Reformulated Penhaligon's EF. I'm boycotting those basterds for castration one of the greatest soaps ever.

I can't truly ban Williams, as we are in an unheathy co-dependent relationship that shows no letting up....I am currently in remission, however.

[ouch]

Don't sit on the fence, Phil. Tell us how you really feel. :001_smile

[Topgumby]

Phil,

You are a gent of the highest order, and I look forward to your posts.

Your perverse and wrong-headed view of some soaps I like only confirms that your sterling character overshadows any foolish opinions you may hold.

vive la différence!

[kwigibocity]

Cool Phil, give us more lists of yer hateds.

[VR6ofpain]

:scared:

thems fightin words! :001_tt2:
YES!!:cursing:

[Antique Hoosier]

Ironically Phil made this soon to be legendary post at Nine Eleven....Emergency

[luvmysuper]

Okay..

I'll fess up.

I actually like those soaps I have listed (well, the VDH is in the far back corner, but I don't have any issue with it - and I have never used PC)

I picked those soaps in particular because they are spread across a pretty wide spectrum of users here, and I was almost certain to nail at least ONE favorite of about everybody.

And I bad mouthed them to at least try to demonstrate to some guys how folks on this board may feel when their favorite is constantly bashed - and I don't mean the "Tell me what you think about XXX" posts, where pro and con is invited. Nope, I'm talking about posts that are titled "I really like xxx" or "I see you like xxx, can you tell me where I can buy it?"

Those posts would generally be considered xxx friendly.

I'm not so naive as to think that everyone should like everything, but jeesh - if a guy likes something, leave him alone and let him like it already. Do we have to be such "negative nancys" about what someone ELSE likes?

Truly, the bashing can be as irritating as the fanboy posts, but at least the fanboy posts have a logical explanation - they are usually started by folks newer to B&B who have not seen the 937 other posts praising the same product.

I have always been of the belief that you get more out of a review of a product by the lack of good things said about it, than you do by any amount of bad things said about it.

Can't we all just get along??

[coolbluewater]

Phil, the Tabac's going a little too far, but I was surprised not to see the reformulated TOBS Avocado on your list.

[Evbo]

Phil, the trick is to never lend your Tabac to a ferret. Let him buy his own soap.

Ditto that. And don't lend him the money, either.

[Topgumby]

Okay..

I'll fess up.
.....

Can't we all just get along??

Phil, you've made me see the light.

BVZgJ7LxsEs

"Be kind to your wet-shaving friends,
That soap may be somebody's favorite,
Don't poke too much fun at their dens,
If you've a nasty remark, simply save it

Don't trash talk another guy's soap,
Be he short, fat, skinny or tall,
Because on Brotherhood we all depend
And a shaver is a shaver is a shaver is a shaver,
Is a shaver after aaaaaa-llllll!






Except for those into Lilac Vegetaaaaa-llll!"

[SliceOfLife]

Ahh, good. My brain is less confused now.


I like most soaps I've used... but I believe Tlanner called me a "researcher" type and what I think he was referring to was my extreme desire to find a purpose for everything (after I try everything). For instance, my first attempt at shaving with Williams was mediocre, but with a little practice (and stealing other people's idea's) I've gotten to where I can get excellent lather from it. (Really all it needs is a little glycerin and a lot of whipping).

Generally, the only shave soaps I'm willing to accept as being underachievers are ones that are an afterthought of a producer who's primary business is unrelated (why I am in no hurry to attempt to find a way to get good lather from Burts Bee's soap).

But aside from those products, I find that if you're willing to work at it you can find a way to make all soaps work well. And some day I will get Seraph to not only use Williams regularly, but advise noobs on how good it can be. *points menacingly at Seraph*

[thirdeye]

I would have to agree, save for the Speick...IMHO....

[DirtyDave]

Phil, you really know how to press a few buttons, yank the chains, etc. When I read your first post all I could think of is here comes the knives and venom. There is something for everyone to mad about. This thread could go on for weeks.

Congratulations! Good one and a good point.

[johnmrson]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-cat-cleans-ferret.jpg

[Topgumby]

This does raise a question...

What is it about shaving soap that makes people so...passionate?

Somebody could post "I hate grilled Salmon!" and I'd just think, "that poor guy doesn't like one of my favorite dishes" and that would be it.

He could even post "I hate grilled Salmon, it's terrible, and you should hate it, too!" and I'd think, "that poor deranged anti-Chinook kook is missing out" and that would be it.

But let a guy post something like that about a favorite soap, and it's "Beat to Quarters!"

:confused1

[professorchaos]

I can agree on all counts but Cella and Speick...they are two of my favorites. As for the others, I wouldn't wash my dogs paws with them.

[grump]

Okay..

I'll fess up.

I actually like those soaps I have listed (well, the VDH is in the far back corner, but I don't have any issue with it - and I have never used PC)

I picked those soaps in particular because they are spread across a pretty wide spectrum of users here, and I was almost certain to nail at least ONE favorite of about everybody.

And I bad mouthed them to at least try to demonstrate to some guys how folks on this board may feel when their favorite is constantly bashed - and I don't mean the "Tell me what you think about XXX" posts, where pro and con is invited. Nope, I'm talking about posts that are titled "I really like xxx" or "I see you like xxx, can you tell me where I can buy it?"

Those posts would generally be considered xxx friendly.

I'm not so naive as to think that everyone should like everything, but jeesh - if a guy likes something, leave him alone and let him like it already. Do we have to be such "negative nancys" about what someone ELSE likes?

Truly, the bashing can be as irritating as the fanboy posts, but at least the fanboy posts have a logical explanation - they are usually started by folks newer to B&B who have not seen the 937 other posts praising the same product.

I have always been of the belief that you get more out of a review of a product by the lack of good things said about it, than you do by any amount of bad things said about it.

Can't we all just get along??

:lol::lol::lol: From one Phil to another, "I LOVE YOU MAN" :lol::lol::lol:

So now, will come the reactions, from those who read the first post only.

[luvmysuper]

This does raise a question...

What is it about shaving soap that makes people so...passionate?

Somebody could post "I hate grilled Salmon!" and I'd just think, "that poor guy doesn't like one of my favorite dishes" and that would be it.

He could even post "I hate grilled Salmon, it's terrible, and you should hate it, too!" and I'd think, "that poor deranged anti-Chinook kook is missing out" and that would be it.

But let a guy post something about like that about a favorite soap, and it's "Beat to Quarters!"

:confused1

It may just be that guys invest into their soap.
At least a little research, the cost, the effort to learn how to use it. When it becomes a favorite, it becomes a little bit of who they are.
When you insult it, you are , in a way, insulting them. For the choice they made, and for their reasoning to defend it.
I suppose the same could be said about the salmon, if you were the guy who selected it, or prepared it in your own special way. To have it then rejected could make you upset with the individual who rejected it.

[Obsessed]

And I always thought these psych. experiments were done with mice running through little mazes. Who knew they were badgers?

[SliceOfLife]

Does anyone actually argue over it? I see people post divergent opinions, but it's never really an issue of "You hate tabac! OMG U R SO RONG!" At least as far as I have seen. I think it's just a matter of people feeling that if a product is maligned that they have found to be a good product they should present their experience as well. So really, the people who condemn products (Tabac most notably) as over-rated or bad are likely cause much if not most of the "fanboyism" over it. Because for every person that feels it's over rated, there are a dozen who feel it's one of the best... and they're all going to feel obligated to point out their experience to people considering it and reading, lest the negative posters deter someone from trying a product they feel is definitely worth trying.

[Obsessed]

This does raise a question...

What is it about shaving soap that makes people so...passionate?

Somebody could post "I hate grilled Salmon!" and I'd just think, "that poor guy doesn't like one of my favorite dishes" and that would be it.

He could even post "I hate grilled Salmon, it's terrible, and you should hate it, too!" and I'd think, "that poor deranged anti-Chinook kook is missing out" and that would be it.

But let a guy post something about like that about a favorite soap, and it's "Beat to Quarters!"

:confused1

Maybe negative posts about one's favorite soap trigger a fear that if not enough people like it, the manufacturer will stop producing it. That's about the only rational explanation I can think of. I fear, however, that the answer is not rational. :001_rolle

[GoldenMonkey]

I hate everything.



But I like pickles.






...and I lurvez muh kitteh.

[luvmysuper]

Does anyone actually argue over it? I see people post divergent opinions, but it's never really an issue of "You hate tabac! OMG U R SO RONG!" At least as far as I have seen. I think it's just a matter of people feeling that if a product is maligned that they have found to be a good product they should present their experience as well. So really, the people who condemn products (Tabac most notably) as over-rated or bad are likely cause much if not most of the "fanboyism" over it. Because for every person that feels it's over rated, there are a dozen who feel it's one of the best... and they're all going to feel obligated to point out their experience to people considering it and reading, lest the negative posters deter someone from trying a product they feel is definitely worth trying.

I guess, in a round about way, that is also kind of my point.
We all post YMMV. Constantly. Ad infinitum.
If someone recommends a product, there is obviously at least one person who likes it. (the recommender). It is therefore logical to assume that one other person MAY like it if they try it (the recomendee).
For the guy who hates that product to go into that post and not merely say that he personally didn't care for it, or to say that from what he reads on this board it is not well liked, but to specifically malign it in the worst way is definitely NOT YMMV.
If the recomendee tries the product and doesn't like it, THAT is YMMV.
If the recomendee tries the product and likes it, THAT is YMMV.

I guess, in a nutshell, I am saying that YMMV is trying a product, - maybe you will like it and maybe you won't.
It is not YMMV when someone is discouraged from trying a product at all because of negative press from those that don't like it.

[petr]

I totally judge people on their ability to know what is a good soap and which suck. My opinion being the benchmark.

Same for AS.

Take the VEG for example. Anybody who likes the veg probably paints their bedroom haze grey just to feel normal.

What about the guys just starting out? Is it not our purpose to inform them which products are not worth the effort?

[Topgumby]

What about the guys just starting out? Is it not our purpose to inform them which products are not worth the effort?

Man, that is so Herbert! The new guys will reach, in time. We have to let them find their own Eden, you dig?



http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h38/msgte/insp_herbert.png

[sproosemoose]

I use VDH glycerin, I find it pretty good, but I havne't used anything else.
What soaps do you like?

[RichGem]

I hate everything.



But I like pickles.






...and I lurvez muh kitteh.

ur kitteh iz a pikle? :confused:

As to the OP, agreed with Phil and add Col. Conk and Williams.

[luvmysuper]

I totally judge people on their ability to know what is a good soap and which suck. My opinion being the benchmark.

Same for AS. I am a huge AS snob.

Take the VEG for example. Anybody who likes the veg probably paints their bedroom haze grey just to feel normal.

What about the guys just starting out? Is it not our purpose to inform them which products are not worth the effort?

This wouldn't be B&B if people didn't express their opinions on a subject.
But to state that we should inform newbies of "which products are not worth the effort" is not our function.
Not worth the effort in whose opinion?
Let's say I recommend Soap X, I have tried it and I love it.
You have tried Soap X, and you hate it.
Newbie comes along and posts a question in my recommend thread about Soap X.
You tell newbie that Soap X is not worth the effort, and newbie never tries Soap X.
Unbeknownst to both you and I, newbie was actually an individual who would have loved Soap X, but he will never know. Why? Because he didn't even try it.
If he tried it, and hated it, what is his loss? A few shaves worth of his time? Part of the purchase price of the soap? (because he can likely sell the remainder on BST)
If he doesn't try it, and would have loved it, what did he lose?
Imagine yourself not having your favorite, and the enjoyment you get from it having never happened.
(Ok, that's a little George Bailey - but you get what I mean)

[Obsessed]

Man, that is so Herbert! The new guys will reach, in time. We have to let them find their own Eden, you dig?



http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h38/msgte/insp_herbert.png

Shaving out in Eden
Yea brother
Shaving out in Eden
Whiskers gone but tomorrow they'll be back
Gonna shave like a king with AOS and Tabac
Keep the best and throw away the crap
Yea brother, yea

[Topgumby]

Obsessed, man, we reach, brother!

"Gonna crack my knuckles and jump like a trooper
I got a clean conscience from Luvmysuper"

[Obsessed]

Obsessed, man, we reach, brother!

Yeah, I'm practically one now.

But we have to get the rest of them. Just be friendly. You know how to be friendly.


"Gonna crack my knuckles and jump like a trooper
I got a clean conscience from Luvmysuper"

Good one!

[Stubblefield]

Speick - is it just coincidence that its name is similar to a command given to a dog?
Play Dead?




But I like pickles.
I love Turtles.

[Austin]

Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko and Arko. Did I mention Arko? Add MWF, Irisch Moos and few others that escape me.

[azmark]

MWF

:a47:

[JoeH]

Wesson.

[azmark]

From all of the cr...I mean stuff I've tried. Speick is not allowed. It's the only product I've ever had irritation from. And the smell is like Tabac on a two week binge.

[Topgumby]

"Stiff man puttin' my soap in jail, and the reviewer bangs the gavel and say, 'No bail!' Gonna lick his hand and wag my tail..."

[gollum83]

But I like pickles.

Pickles are awesome. That is all.


Take the VEG for example. Anybody who likes the veg probably paints their bedroom haze grey just to feel normal.

I'll have you know my bedroom walls are an off-white color. Grey? Honestly, the nerve. :sneaky2:

[arghblech]

Yhbt!

[jakespoppy]

I'm supposed to wash my ferret?

[wilsonent]

Interesting post. Bound to get lots of "I hate xxx cause it smells like dookey" replies. The point of the post reminded me of the Rotary four-way test.




THE FOUR-WAY TEST OF THE THINGS WE THINK, SAY OR DO

*Is it the truth?
*Will it build good will and better friendships?
*Is it fair to all concerned?
*Will it be beneficial to all concerned?


Any Rotary members out here?

[Antique Hoosier]

In the end, new members should be sufficiently more confused. (but on the bright side Phil got "Prarie Creations" visibility which was probably the main ax he has to grind)

Just my opinion. YMMV

[Seraphim]

YMMV is a valid point to make.


Yet, if you drive a Hummer, you mileage will not vary, it will hover at close to 5 MPG, lousey:mad3:.


Same idea with Williams.

:001_cool:

[Obsessed]

In the last analysis, it's just f-ing shaving soap. The fact that guys get so dogmatic about their likes and dislikes that Phil felt the need to post this thread is inching toward creepy territory. If you really begin to feel such an emotional attachment to any particular brand of shaving soap that you start getting into cyber fights about it, you may want to start thinking about a beard.

[luvmysuper]

In the end, new members should be sufficiently more confused. (but on the bright side Phil got "Prarie Creations" visibility which was probably the main ax he has to grind)
Just my opinion. YMMV

Actually, I have never tried PC, and have no intention to. The small market private manufacturers don't hold any interest for me whatsoever, the owner of said soap shop got booted from this site (no easy chore) and there are too many big dogs out there to play with.


In the last analysis, it's just f-ing shaving soap. The fact that guys get so dogmatic about their likes and dislikes that Phil felt the need to post this thread is inching toward creepy territory. If you really begin to feel such an emotional attachment to any particular brand of shaving soap that you start getting into cyber fights about it, you may want to start thinking about a beard.

Exactly.
Thank you.

[Topgumby]

Phil, you have started a whole new philosophy for me. You are one.

It makes you this guy:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h38/msgte/DrSevrin.jpg

[luvmysuper]

Phil, you have started a whole new philosophy for me. You are one.

It makes you this guy:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h38/msgte/DrSevrin.jpg

Not me my friend, an interpretation for the typical Buddha long ears is that he was wealthy not merely in terms of material wealth which he renounced, but rather, in terms of his wisdom and compassion.

While I may be a compassionate guy, wisdom and the ability to renounce wealth are skills that escape me! :lol:

[Haber Dashing]

I hate everything.



But I like pickles.



...and I lurvez muh kitteh.


Pickles and kitteh are part of everything. Take it or leave it.:gunsmilie:

[Drubbing]

Maybe negative posts about one's favorite soap trigger a fear that if not enough people like it, the manufacturer will stop producing it. That's about the only rational explanation I can think of. I fear, however, that the answer is not rational. :001_rolle

I think, on behalf of the fearers, you overestimate the membership/ influence any internet forum has. There are a lot more customers for these products out there than us.

They are irrational, but anyone who hates Tabac is just not a good person.:biggrin1:

[Seraphim]

In the last analysis, it's just f-ing shaving soap. The fact that guys get so dogmatic about their likes and dislikes that Phil felt the need to post this thread is inching toward creepy territory. If you really begin to feel such an emotional attachment to any particular brand of shaving soap that you start getting into cyber fights about it, you may want to start thinking about a beard.

Exactly.


And yet, you have somehow managed to make 2,700+ posts about "just shaving".:blink:


This forum is all about getting caught up in the finer points, debating merits and drawbacks, etc, etc.

Shaving soaps are like rooting for a football or baseball team. A fan takes a certain "ownership", when in reality it doesn't matter one wet slap what happens one way or the other.


Unless you happen to root for the accursed Yankees.:thumbdown



:lol:

[petr]

This wouldn't be B&B if people didn't express their opinions on a subject.
But to state that we should inform newbies of "which products are not worth the effort" is not our function.
Not worth the effort in whose opinion?
Let's say I recommend Soap X, I have tried it and I love it.
You have tried Soap X, and you hate it.
Newbie comes along and posts a question in my recommend thread about Soap X.
You tell newbie that Soap X is not worth the effort, and newbie never tries Soap X.
Unbeknownst to both you and I, newbie was actually an individual who would have loved Soap X, but he will never know. Why? Because he didn't even try it.
If he tried it, and hated it, what is his loss? A few shaves worth of his time? Part of the purchase price of the soap? (because he can likely sell the remainder on BST)
If he doesn't try it, and would have loved it, what did he lose?
Imagine yourself not having your favorite, and the enjoyment you get from it having never happened.
(Ok, that's a little George Bailey - but you get what I mean)

Meh, I agree sorta. That's why I am on a quest to try them all.

[luvmysuper]

Exactly.


And yet, you have somehow managed to make 2,700+ posts about "just shaving".:blink:


This forum is all about getting caught up in the finer points, debating merits and drawbacks, etc, etc.

Shaving soaps are like rooting for a football or baseball team. A fan takes a certain "ownership", when in reality it doesn't matter one wet slap what happens one way or the other.


Unless you happen to root for the accursed Yankees.:thumbdown



:lol:

That's very true.
Similar to the discussions I hear in the break room when I go out to job sites about so and so's Chevy Truck and so and so's Ford Truck.
Either one will get you from point A to point B. How comfortable, stylish, ergonomic and economical it is in the journey are the stuff that arguments are made of.

[petr]

In the last analysis, it's just f-ing shaving soap. The fact that guys get so dogmatic about their likes and dislikes that Phil felt the need to post this thread is inching toward creepy territory. If you really begin to feel such an emotional attachment to any particular brand of shaving soap that you start getting into cyber fights about it, you may want to start thinking about a beard.

It is more than that. For some guys soap X provides something they never had before - looking like a man at work without big A red splotches all over his neck. That's huge.

Also, spend 20+ bucks on a puck of soap that sucks (in general or sucks for your skin) and you will become rather passionate about these things.


Tell us Phil, what products do you approve of?

[Obsessed]

Exactly.


And yet, you have somehow managed to make 2,700+ posts about "just shaving".:blink:


This forum is all about getting caught up in the finer points, debating merits and drawbacks, etc, etc.

Shaving soaps are like rooting for a football or baseball team. A fan takes a certain "ownership", when in reality it doesn't matter one wet slap what happens one way or the other.


Hey man, I'm the arbiter of what's sane and insane around here, and I'm exempted from being judged. (Read the TOU; it's in there somewhere.)

Seriously, what you say is obviously true, but I think you know what I meant. There's a point where the "ownership" thing goes beyond being a diversion and becomes a little nutso. I have enough stuff to get upset about; this is supposed to be fun. (Same with rooting for sports team, obviously. I think about times in the past when I got really upset that one of my teams lost, and I feel like a fool.)


"Gonna crack my knuckles and jump like a trooper
I got a clean conscience from Luvmysuper"

That's been stuck in my head for hours. :lol: And your new avatar is cracking me up.


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h38/msgte/DrSevrin.jpg

As he might say about this thread, "it's correct for you to be concerned, but be assured also."

[luvmysuper]

It is more than that. For some guys soap X provides something they never had before - looking like a man at work without big A red splotches all over his neck. That's huge.

Also, spend 20+ bucks on a puck of soap that sucks (in general or sucks for your skin) and you will become rather passionate about these things.

Phil went way past creepy territory when he wanted "DA VEG" concentrated x2. Although he may be past hope, I have put him on my charity list for products befitting a gentleman of his calibre.

Tell us Phil, what products do you approve of?

I can get a satisfactory shave out of just about any soap or cream. I have not found one that I particularly dislike, and I have about 20 different ones in my "rotation" right now.

I have successfully used numerous blade brands ranging from Walmart Personnas to Feathers, I find some better than others, but so far none have been "bad" (ok - except for the Gillette Super Stainless in the white plastic dispenser - they just didn't work for me).

I use straights, and have a Wolstenholm Ebro, Wolstenholm Pipe Brand, a huge Wade and Butcher Wedge, and a 5/8 Boker Tree Brand Hollow Ground that I use, with a few others on the back shelf awaiting honing.

I use Techs, and Superspeeds, and Aristocrats, and GEMS, and Schick Injectors, even the Goodfella and the Merkur Slant.
I feel the Goodfella is a little light and mild, but it works - I find the GEMs hard to maneuver under the nose, but they are fun to use. I love the Superspeeds, but I like the Merkur (and it just looks "cool").

I have a wide variety of Aftershaves - mostly "old school" Barber Shop style fragrances - AV (Blue, Green and Musk) the entire line of Pinaud, Old Spice (of course) and I've even used Mennen Skin Bracer and Brut with good results. I don't really have any high end fragrances, not because I don't think I'd like them, just haven't gone to the trouble of getting any.

I have Boar and Badger brushes, purchased at various levels of cost (though my face doesn't distinguish the differences quite as much as my wallet does).

I think I am a pretty generic kind of shaving guy really.
But enough about me - How about you guys?

[Alacrity59]

Interesting experiment.

You came very close to becoming one of those nattering nabobs of negativity who is so confident of their position and so disrespectful of folk holding alternate positions that they state their negative positions in a way that does not allow for "saving face". Some of this is done in the guise of humour and perhaps some of the comments were, at one moment, humourous but don't really retain their humourous effect after being repeated ad nauseam.

I hesitated somewhat in responding as I know it will only come to more dead horse beating. We pride ourselves on being gentlemen. It is fine and proper to disagree with someone but leave some room to let the other person save face.

Mike

[DJSneak]

I get the feeling this post was designed for a vinegar and baking soda reaction. Poof! Now shall we add some red food coloring for effect?

[brianw]

I certainly understand what Phil is getting at... and that is why I steer clear of discussions of products I abhor. If I do jump in it's usually with it never worked for me or YMMV, Do I read the threads... You Bet

[synapticmisfires]

Some great points were raised by this thread. I like the idea, Phil. I was kind of perplexed how any one person could have hated such different soaps with such good reputations.

I agree that there's no sense getting territorial over these things. As noted earlier in the thread, people invest a lot of thought, money, and time into their favorite soaps, so it's understandable to be defensive and we really do have to work around these sensitivities. That means both learning not to offend and learning not to take things too personally. (I can't believe I just talked about shaving soap sensitivities in the emotional sense)

That said, as a shaver whose days of being a B&B newbie are not that far behind him (if indeed they are behind me yet), I will qualify this with one thing. When someone new actually does ask for a recommendation, it's frustrating to get "there's so many good ones, YMMV, try everything". Not everyone does it, but I have witnessed occasions in which people were seemingly too cautious to voice any opinion. If you really believe that mileage varies, it's far more effective I think to outline some fairly accessible options that are orthogonal to each other so that the newbies can narrow the field down quickly, not simply send the newbies who are lurking and posting out into the wilderness without a guide.

Edit: The qualification was not so much about this thread in particular but just because the discussion reminded me of how "YMMV"-happy we all get, on occasion.

[luvmysuper]

Some great points were raised by this thread. I like the idea, Phil. I was kind of perplexed how any one person could have hated such different soaps with such good reputations.

I agree that there's no sense getting territorial over these things. As noted earlier in the thread, people invest a lot of thought, money, and time into their favorite soaps, so it's understandable to be defensive and we really do have to work around these sensitivities. That means both learning not to offend and learning not to take things too personally. (I can't believe I just talked about shaving soap sensitivities in the emotional sense)

That said, as a shaver whose days of being a B&B newbie are not that far behind him (if indeed they are behind me yet), I will qualify this with one thing. When someone new actually does ask for a recommendation, it's frustrating to get "there's so many good ones, YMMV, try everything". Not everyone does it, but I have witnessed occasions in which people were seemingly too cautious to voice any opinion. If you really believe that mileage varies, it's far more effective I think to outline some fairly accessible options that are orthogonal to each other so that the newbies can narrow the field down quickly, not simply send the newbies who are lurking and posting out into the wilderness without a guide.

Edit: The qualification was not so much about this thread in particular but just because the discussion reminded me of how "YMMV"-happy we all get, on occasion.

I would agree with you regarding specific recommendations. I don't think people should abandon recommending something specific purely for the YMMV thing.
I guess I was probably implying more along the lines of not telling people "Don't use xxx soap because it sucks".
That doesn't help the newb pick something good, and it may deny him the opportunity to try something he would like. That's all I meant by the YMMV comments.
I know that I will probably continue to recommend VDH to newbies because it is cheap, it is usually locally available, and you have to be a major putz not to be able to lather it.
Is it the best? I don't think so, but.....
YMMV :lol:

[Mr. Scruffy]

We're supposed to use soap?

I don't get it.

[JPM]

I bet the ferret doesn't much like smelling like tobacco. :lol::lol:

[petr]

I can get a satisfactory shave out of just about any soap or cream. I have not found one that I particularly dislike, and I have about 20 different ones in my "rotation" right now.
?

And there it is ... 'ole leather face.

[luvmysuper]

I bet the ferret doesn't much like smelling like tobacco. :lol::lol:

Maybe he does, and maybe he doesn't
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[Seraphim]

Some great points were raised by this thread. I like the idea, Phil. I was kind of perplexed how any one person could have hated such different soaps with such good reputations.

I agree that there's no sense getting territorial over these things. As noted earlier in the thread, people invest a lot of thought, money, and time into their favorite soaps, so it's understandable to be defensive and we really do have to work around these sensitivities. That means both learning not to offend and learning not to take things too personally. (I can't believe I just talked about shaving soap sensitivities in the emotional sense)

That said, as a shaver whose days of being a B&B newbie are not that far behind him (if indeed they are behind me yet), I will qualify this with one thing. When someone new actually does ask for a recommendation, it's frustrating to get "there's so many good ones, YMMV, try everything". Not everyone does it, but I have witnessed occasions in which people were seemingly too cautious to voice any opinion. If you really believe that mileage varies, it's far more effective I think to outline some fairly accessible options that are orthogonal to each other so that the newbies can narrow the field down quickly, not simply send the newbies who are lurking and posting out into the wilderness without a guide.

Edit: The qualification was not so much about this thread in particular but just because the discussion reminded me of how "YMMV"-happy we all get, on occasion.

I say "NO".

A shaving soap subforum is no place for sensitivities and politcal correctness.

In this small, tucked away, last vestige of manly pursuits, if we cannot come right out and say "hey, that stuff sucks", or "my soap will kick your soaps butt", in the spirirt of male competition, then my friends, I say it's time to hang it all up and put on skirts.

[RichGem]

I say "NO".

A shaving soap subforum is no place for sensitivities and politcal correctness.

In this small, tucked away, last vestige of manly pursuits, if we cannot come right out and say "hey, that stuff sucks", or "my soap will kick your soaps butt", in the spirirt of male competition, then my friends, I say it's time to hang it all up and put on skirts.


"Summer breeze... makes him feel fine... blowin' through the jasmine in his mind...." :001_rolle

[luvmysuper]

I say "NO".

A shaving soap subforum is no place for sensitivities and politcal correctness.

In this small, tucked away, last vestige of manly pursuits, if we cannot come right out and say "hey, that stuff sucks", or "my soap will kick your soaps butt", in the spirirt of male competition, then my friends, I say it's time to hang it all up and put on skirts.

Well that is YMMV too. :lol: (I mean disagreeing about a topic, not telling someone their soap sucks)

[Drubbing]

I can get a satisfactory shave out of just about any soap or cream. I have not found one that I particularly dislike, and I have about 20 different ones in my "rotation" right now.

I have successfully used numerous blade brands ranging from Walmart Personnas to Feathers, I find some better than others, but so far none have been "bad" (ok - except for the Gillette Super Stainless in the white plastic dispenser - they just didn't work for me).

I use straights, and have a Wolstenholm Ebro, Wolstenholm Pipe Brand, a huge Wade and Butcher Wedge, and a 5/8 Boker Tree Brand Hollow Ground that I use, with a few others on the back shelf awaiting honing.

I use Techs, and Superspeeds, and Aristocrats, and GEMS, and Schick Injectors, even the Goodfella and the Merkur Slant.
I feel the Goodfella is a little light and mild, but it works - I find the GEMs hard to maneuver under the nose, but they are fun to use. I love the Superspeeds, but I like the Merkur (and it just looks "cool").

I have a wide variety of Aftershaves - mostly "old school" Barber Shop style fragrances - AV (Blue, Green and Musk) the entire line of Pinaud, Old Spice (of course) and I've even used Mennen Skin Bracer and Brut with good results. I don't really have any high end fragrances, not because I don't think I'd like them, just haven't gone to the trouble of getting any.

I have Boar and Badger brushes, purchased at various levels of cost (though my face doesn't distinguish the differences quite as much as my wallet does).

I think I am a pretty generic kind of shaving guy really.
But enough about me - How about you guys?

You're obviously too easily pleased, Phil. That makes you a freak round here, you know that..? :lol:

Being the nerds that most of us obviously are, we invest emotionally in a lot of these things even before we buy them; we read, do the research, find out the fun/great results other people have with certain products and want (no, expect), that same feeling if we get set on something we want. When it comes good, we get personally attached to that thing; a decision vindicated and money well spent.

But as Petr says, spend $20 on a puck (Hey, I'm Australian - we can't get pucks of anything for less than $20!) you've put expectation into and it sucks, well you sometimes feel strongly about that too. It's not so much the money, it's what you invested in the expectation.

[Doc4]

Well, this thread has certainly not turned out the way I thought it would, when I was halfway through the OP. I was mentally making bets as to which soap's fanboys and h8ers were responsible for the flamewar that had extended this threat to a third page. :blink:

But noooo ... you guys have to go and have an intelligent discussion. :001_huh:


Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko, Arko and Arko. Did I mention Arko? Add MWF, Irisch Moos and few others that escape me.
Where's your shave stick!?

I bet the ferret doesn't much like smelling like tobacco. :lol::lol:
Actually, the ferret smells like he's trying to score at the disco in Munich, circa 1962.

"Summer breeze... makes him feel fine... blowin' through the jasmine in his mind...." :001_rolle

Oh, see, now you've made it too obvious so we can't use that one. :001_rolle

[RichGem]

Well, this thread has certainly not turned out the way I thought it would, when I was halfway through the OP. I was mentally making bets as to which soap's fanboys and h8ers were responsible for the flamewar that had extended this threat to a third page. :blink:

But noooo ... you guys have to go and have an intelligent discussion. :001_huh:


Where's your shave stick!?

Actually, the ferret smells like he's trying to score at the disco in Munich, circa 1962.


Oh, see, now you've made it too obvious so we can't use that one. :001_rolle

Yeah, as if it were really that easy. :thumbup1:

[luvmysuper]

You're obviously too easily pleased, Phil. That makes you a freak round here, you know that..? :lol:

:w00t: :lol:

Maybe it's that I am almost 3/4 the way through my time here on this blue marble, and I am making every effort I can to just not get upset about things any more. It ain't worth it.

And hey - it's shaving, not Rocket Surgery!! :lol:

:thumbup:

[GoldenMonkey]

Sauerkraut is good too.

Anything salty, tart, and crunchy really.

[Topgumby]

Well, the Old Topgumby with his freaky fedora would have been busting posted caps on somebody by now for dissin' dis or dat, but the New Phil Friendly Topgumby just hears it all and digs it, man.

"Ain't gonna fret about no soaps
One man's nightmare is another man's hopes
I know it's all true 'cause I read it Snopes"

Yeah, even those Herberts giving my den fillers the stiff lip are one with Somebody, man.

Peace and smooth cheeks, no snark and smart remarks. It's the way of Phil, and I reach.

[luvmysuper]

Well, the Old Topgumby with his freaky fedora would have been busting posted caps on somebody by now for dissin' dis or dat, but the New Phil Friendly Topgumby just hears it all and digs it, man.

"Ain't gonna fret about no soaps
One man's nightmare is another man's hopes
I know it's all true 'cause I read it Snopes"

Yeah, even those Herberts giving my den fillers the stiff lip are one with Somebody, man.

Peace and smooth cheeks, no snark and smart remarks. It's the way of Phil, and I reach.

I think I liked that guy better. :lol:

Come back, shaving baby!!

[Obsessed]

Well, the Old Topgumby with his freaky fedora would have been busting posted caps on somebody by now for dissin' dis or dat, but the New Phil Friendly Topgumby just hears it all and digs it, man.

"Ain't gonna fret about no soaps
One man's nightmare is another man's hopes
I know it's all true 'cause I read it Snopes"

Yeah, even those Herberts giving my den fillers the stiff lip are one with Somebody, man.

Peace and smooth cheeks, no snark and smart remarks. It's the way of Phil, and I reach.

His avatar was a fedora
But now that picture's no more-a
B.P. is lowering
He's so easy going
He could even shave with Cremora

[Topgumby]

I think I liked that guy better. :lol:

Come back, shaving baby!!

Fedora no more-a
Phil taught me to chill
Make love, not lather

Being a space hippy from the future as seen in the 1960's is where it's at, like the wool fat!

We reach, brother.

[GoldenMonkey]

I hate Hippyspacegumby...:thumbdown

[RichGem]

I hate Hippyspacegumby...:thumbdown

Yeah, seems like he's been snorting the williams a little too hard. :blink:

[michiganlover]

Yeah, seems like he's been snorting the williams a little too hard. :blink:

Snorting soap........is that the final sign that you may have taken our little obsession just a tiny bit too far?? :laugh::laugh:

[luvmysuper]

Snorting soap........is that the final sign that you may have taken our little obsession just a tiny bit too far?? :laugh::laugh:

I suppose it's probably better than an IV drip, but you just hate to see it happen.


:lol:

[RichGem]

Snorting soap........is that the final sign that you may have taken our little obsession just a tiny bit too far?? :laugh::laugh:

OTOH, his sinuses have never been cleaner. :lol:

[JPM]

Sauerkraut is good too.

Anything salty, tart, and crunchy really.

You haven't been feeding that kitteh brats and kraut have you? :lol::lol:

[Doc4]

Snorting soap........is that the final sign that you may have taken our little obsession just a tiny bit too far?? :laugh::laugh:
Maybe that explains Mama Bear's wacky tobaccy soap??

Okay..

I'll fess up.

I picked those soaps in particular because they are spread across a pretty wide spectrum of users here, and I was almost certain to nail at least ONE favorite of about everybody.

And I bad mouthed them to at least try to demonstrate to some guys how folks on this board may feel when their favorite is constantly bashed - and I don't mean the "Tell me what you think about XXX" posts, where pro and con is invited. Nope, I'm talking about posts that are titled "I really like xxx" or "I see you like xxx, can you tell me where I can buy it?"

...

Can't we all just get along??

Of course, you missed MWF.

... oh, and just try this sort of thread over in Aftershaves, dissin' The Velva and h8in' on Old Spice ... those aftershave guys don't take $h!t from nobody! :lol:

[RichGem]

Maybe that explains Mama Bear's wacky tobaccy soap??


Of course, you missed MWF.

... oh, and just try this sort of thread over in Aftershaves, dissin' The Velva and h8in' on Old Spice ... those aftershave guys don't take $h!t from nobody! :lol:


Buncha sissy marys if you ask me.


:lol::lol::lol:

[JPM]

Maybe that explains Mama Bear's wacky tobaccy soap??


Of course, you missed MWF.

... oh, and just try this sort of thread over in Aftershaves, dissin' The Velva and h8in' on Old Spice ... those aftershave guys don't take $h!t from nobody! :lol:

HA! We'll kick 'em right in the AS! :w00t:

[GoldenMonkey]

You haven't been feeding that kitteh brats and kraut have you? :lol::lol:

No, dey eetz thur regulation cronchycronchynomnomz.

[Pumpkin]

:w00t: :lol:

Maybe it's that I am almost 3/4 the way through my time here on this blue marble, and I am making every effort I can to just not get upset about things any more. It ain't worth it.

And hey - it's shaving, not Rocket Surgery!! :lol:

:thumbup:

...and now we see the justification for Phil's user-title! :thumbup:

As a relative newbie, it is nice to get a (slightly) more balanced set of recommendations when I ask "what's product xyz like?". Coming into this world I'd never have imagined just how passionate people can be about EVERYTHING (blades, razors, soaps, creams, etc.)...it makes a bit more sense now though :lol:
I'm starting towards trying out a few of the "standards" in each category so that in the future I can give an objective opinion when a newbie asks a question. I might love/hate OS, VdH, Williams, Tabac, Feathers, the 3T's, et al. but at least I'll be able to say (with justification) that product x is better/worse than product y in MY opinion, but that YOUR mileage may vary! :001_smile

[richmondesi]

I would have to agree, save for the Speick...IMHO....

This is what I was thinking too... Phil, you started out doing so well:tongue_sm

[gollum83]

Buncha sissy marys if you ask me.


:lol::lol::lol:

Them's fightin' words! :mad5:

¡Viva la Velva! :velva2:

[superspot]

Just wanted to let you know that flesh tone, baby powder smelling mucus is and will remain at the top of my favorite list as far as I am concerned. I don't know and really don't care to know what you shave with and it's none of my business and I don't intend to trash talk it. It may be something that gives you face lepercy later in life, but oh well. We all have our favorites, that's part of being an individual. If their was only one shaving soap, cream, and razor in the world none of us would be here.

VDH RULES

sUPERSPOT

[Geordon]

I suppose it's probably better than an IV drip, but you just hate to see it happen.

I'm thinking that would burn worse than Pinaud Bay Rum over some nasty razor burn

:eek6:

[Painter]

TGQ Leatherneck smells like sh*t!

Cella in the sella up in dis muddaf*cha. "If your scared MF'er got to church". Go to church luvmysuper.

CELLA CELLA CELLA

[luvmysuper]

Just wanted to let you know that flesh tone, baby powder smelling mucus is and will remain at the top of my favorite list as far as I am concerned. I don't know and really don't care to know what you shave with and it's none of my business and I don't intend to trash talk it. It may be something that gives you face lepercy later in life, but oh well. We all have our favorites, that's part of being an individual. If their was only one shaving soap, cream, and razor in the world none of us would be here.

VDH RULES

sUPERSPOT


TGQ Leatherneck smells like sh*t!

Cella in the sella up in dis muddaf*cha. "If your scared MF'er got to church". Go to church luvmysuper.

CELLA CELLA CELLA

Now children, don't be naughty. Read the entire post before you make such comments.

This was also part of what I was speaking to. Guys who log into a post, read 2 or 3 comments and make their own, without reading what the turns the thread itself have taken.

Consider me an ally, not an enemy.

But to be honest, I have no idea whatsoever what Painter is trying to say.
It is not a language I speak (and I speak a few)

[richmondesi]

Now children, don't be naughty. Read the entire post before you make such comments.

This was also part of what I was speaking to. Guys who log into a post, read 2 or 3 comments and make their own, without reading what the turns the thread itself have taken.

Consider me an ally, not an enemy.


I did until you backed off the truth you spoke in the OP :001_tt2:

[gollum83]

But to be honest, I have no idea whatsoever what Painter is trying to say.
It is not a language I speak (and I speak a few)

Maybe he likes Cella? But I am not sure about that. :blink:

[RichGem]

Now children, don't be naughty. Read the entire post before you make such comments.

This was also part of what I was speaking to. Guys who log into a post, read 2 or 3 comments and make their own, without reading what the turns the thread itself have taken.

Consider me an ally, not an enemy.

But to be honest, I have no idea whatsoever what Painter is trying to say.
It is not a language I speak (and I speak a few)

Best to consult Golden Monkey... he's the official minister of exotic foreign languages for the czardom. Just tell him I sent you.

[luvmysuper]

I did until you backed off the truth you spoke in the OP :001_tt2:

To be honest Paul, I can make a lather with any soap I've tried so far.
I have my favorites and I have those that are just tolerable to me.
I'm no fan boy of any product, not even my Lilac Vegetal which I will poke fun at with the best of them.
My whole point was just use what works for you, and quit crapping on what works for the other fellow.
That's not really so bad an idea, is it?

[luvmysuper]

Best to consult Golden Monkey... he's the official minister of exotic foreign languages for the czardom. Just tell him I sent you.

Golden Monkey - Please translate that post from Painter regarding something to do with Cella.

U b checkin zat ol talk n not z way we be talking today ole timer, n zats why Eye cants get no jobs man, un u guys be makin de money n we guys be not able 2 getz d high skool degree n stuff. wow. Fo shizzle.

[richmondesi]

To be honest Paul, I can make a lather with any soap I've tried so far.
I have my favorites and I have those that are just tolerable to me.
I'm no fan boy of any product, not even my Lilac Vegetal which I will poke fun at with the best of them.
My whole point was just use what works for you, and quit crapping on what works for the other fellow.
That's not really so bad an idea, is it?

Oh you know I was just funnin':wink2:

[grump]

Now children, don't be naughty. Read the entire post before you make such comments.

This was also part of what I was speaking to. Guys who log into a post, read 2 or 3 comments and make their own, without reading what the turns the thread itself have taken.

Consider me an ally, not an enemy.

But to be honest, I have no idea whatsoever what Painter is trying to say.
It is not a language I speak (and I speak a few)


:lol::lol::lol: From one Phil to another, "I LOVE YOU MAN" :lol::lol::lol:

So now, will come the reactions, from those who read the first post only.

+1, +2, +3

Great thread and discussion!

[Topgumby]

Now children, don't be naughty. Read the entire post before you make such comments.

This was also part of what I was speaking to. Guys who log into a post, read 2 or 3 comments and make their own, without reading what the turns the thread itself have taken.

Consider me an ally, not an enemy.

But to be honest, I have no idea whatsoever what Painter is trying to say.
It is not a language I speak (and I speak a few)

I think itsay Igpay Atinlay.

BTW, now that space hippy TG is gone, I'd like to point out the dangerous nature of being too nice. Not to use another Star Trek reference, but consider what happened when wimp captain Kirk got split from Evil captain Kirk. Sometimes you gotta make like Nick Lowe said and be cruel to be kind.

[bald1]

Anything scented with Tabac. I can not abide that smell.



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[RichGem]

I think itsay Igpay Atinlay.

BTW, now that space hippy TG is gone, I'd like to point out the dangerous nature of being too nice. Not to use another Star Trek reference, but consider what happened when wimp captain Kirk got split from Evil captain Kirk. Sometimes you gotta make like Nick Lowe said and be cruel to be kind.


But... in the right measure.

[luvmysuper]

and be cruel to be kind.


But... in the right measure.

Cruel to be kind? That's a very good sign.

[bythbook]

"Summer breeze... makes him feel fine... blowin' through the jasmine in his mind...." :001_rolle



you go too far.

[GoldenMonkey]

Good morning gentlemen...please excuse my tardiness. As to the aforementioned linguistic aberration:

"TGQ Leatherneck smells like sh*t!

Cella in the sella up in dis muddaf*cha. "If your scared MF'er got to church". Go to church luvmysuper.

CELLA CELLA CELLA"

This translation is quite simple. Moronic, yet easily understood:

"Although Colleen makes wonderful shave soaps in fantastic varieties of exotic and intriguing scents, I for one am not as enamoured of the Leatherneck formulation. I found the scent somewhat distasteful, yet cannot find the adequate words to express my impression of the bouquet. Perhaps I should while away the hours on Basenotes in order to acquire the necessary descriptors, giving me the necessary language to better communicate my thoughts and feelings.

I also take exception to your vilification of Cella, my good man. This particular product is a top performer, and I strenuously object to your marginalization of said soap. Once again I am at a loss for words, so I shall resort to crude and grammatically incorrect vulgarities in an attempt to refute your claims. My false bravado dictates that I attempt vociferous lyrical rhyming schemes, but alas I am no Doctor Andre Romelle Young, or one of his contemporaries. My metaphorical allusions fall short, but I wish to imply that if you disdain the wonderful characteristics of Cella, perhaps you are are harbouring doubt and mistrust in your heart. In times of trial or tribulation one finds one's will turned over to a higher power, and one seeks solace and guidance from God. Were I a Doctor of Dre's repute, and as eloquent of a wordsmith, this is the course of treatment I would prescribe for you sir. In all matters of wavering devotion, find strength in your faith. Amen. I shall lift my face to God and sing a hosanna to Cella...

Cella! Cella! Thrice I praise you! Cella!

[Mr. Scruffy]

Good morning gentlemen...please excuse my tardiness. As to the aforementioned linguistic aberration:

"TGQ Leatherneck smells like sh*t!

Cella in the sella up in dis muddaf*cha. "If your scared MF'er got to church". Go to church luvmysuper.

CELLA CELLA CELLA"

This translation is quite simple. Moronic, yet easily understood:

"Although Colleen makes wonderful shave soaps in fantastic varieties of exotic and intriguing scents, I for one am not as enamoured of the Leatherneck formulation. I found the scent somewhat distasteful, yet cannot find the adequate words to express my impression of the bouquet. Perhaps I should while away the hours on Basenotes in order to acquire the necessary descriptors, giving me the necessary language to better communicate my thoughts and feelings.

I also take exception to your vilification of Cella, my good man. This particular product is a top performer, and I strenuously object to your marginalization of said soap. Once again I am at a loss for words, so I shall resort to crude and grammatically incorrect vulgarities in an attempt to refute your claims. My false bravado dictates that I attempt vociferous lyrical rhyming schemes, but alas I am no Doctor Andre Romelle Young, or one of his contemporaries. My metaphorical allusions fall short, but I wish to imply that if you disdain the wonderful characteristics of Cella, perhaps you are are harbouring doubt and mistrust in your heart. In times of trial or tribulation one finds one's will turned over to a higher power, and one seeks solace and guidance from God. Were I truly a Doctor of Dre's renown, this is the course of action I prescribe for you, sir. In all matters of wavering devotion, find strength in your faith. Amen. I shall lift my face to God and sing a hosanna to Cella...

Cella! Cella! Thrice I praise you! Cella!

:lol::lol::lol: Thanks for the translation!

[RichGem]

I knew we could count on you GM.

[gollum83]

Excellent translation! It all makes sense now! :thumbsup:

"Cella! Cella! Thrice I praise you! Cella!" :w00t::lol::lol::lol:

[GoldenMonkey]

Good morning gentlemen...please excuse my tardiness. As to the aforementioned linguistic aberration:

"TGQ Leatherneck smells like sh*t!

Cella in the sella up in dis muddaf*cha. "If your scared MF'er got to church". Go to church luvmysuper.

CELLA CELLA CELLA"

This translation is quite simple. Moronic, yet easily understood:

"Although Colleen makes wonderful shave soaps in fantastic varieties of exotic and intriguing scents, I for one am not as enamoured of the Leatherneck formulation. I found the scent somewhat distasteful, yet cannot find the adequate words to express my impression of the bouquet. Perhaps I should while away the hours on Basenotes in order to acquire the necessary descriptors, giving me the necessary language to better communicate my thoughts and feelings.

I also take exception to your vilification of Cella, my good man. This particular product is a top performer, and I strenuously object to your marginalization of said soap. Once again I am at a loss for words, so I shall resort to crude and grammatically incorrect vulgarities in an attempt to refute your claims. My false bravado dictates that I attempt vociferous lyrical rhyming schemes, but alas I am no Doctor Andre Romelle Young, or one of his contemporaries. My metaphorical allusions fall short, but I wish to imply that if you disdain the wonderful characteristics of Cella, perhaps you are are harbouring doubt and mistrust in your heart. In times of trial or tribulation one finds one's will turned over to a higher power, and one seeks solace and guidance from God. Were I a Doctor of Dre's repute, and as eloquent of a wordsmith, this is the course of treatment I would prescribe for you sir. In all matters of wavering devotion, find strength in your faith. Amen. I shall lift my face to God and sing a hosanna to Cella...

Cella! Cella! Thrice I praise you! Cella!

Yo, my name is Dr. Dre, and I approve of this message. Ain't no thang but a chicken wang, ya dig? Peace out, suckaz. Word.

http://wastedcelebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/drdre.jpg

[Doc4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFhnlz-A4PI&feature=related

The boys from Compton sendin' some shouts out to Johnnie Cash ... :wink2:

[JPM]

Good morning gentlemen...please excuse my tardiness. As to the aforementioned linguistic aberration:

"TGQ Leatherneck smells like sh*t!

Cella in the sella up in dis muddaf*cha. "If your scared MF'er got to church". Go to church luvmysuper.

CELLA CELLA CELLA"

This translation is quite simple. Moronic, yet easily understood:

"Although Colleen makes wonderful shave soaps in fantastic varieties of exotic and intriguing scents, I for one am not as enamoured of the Leatherneck formulation. I found the scent somewhat distasteful, yet cannot find the adequate words to express my impression of the bouquet. Perhaps I should while away the hours on Basenotes in order to acquire the necessary descriptors, giving me the necessary language to better communicate my thoughts and feelings.

I also take exception to your vilification of Cella, my good man. This particular product is a top performer, and I strenuously object to your marginalization of said soap. Once again I am at a loss for words, so I shall resort to crude and grammatically incorrect vulgarities in an attempt to refute your claims. My false bravado dictates that I attempt vociferous lyrical rhyming schemes, but alas I am no Doctor Andre Romelle Young, or one of his contemporaries. My metaphorical allusions fall short, but I wish to imply that if you disdain the wonderful characteristics of Cella, perhaps you are are harbouring doubt and mistrust in your heart. In times of trial or tribulation one finds one's will turned over to a higher power, and one seeks solace and guidance from God. Were I a Doctor of Dre's repute, and as eloquent of a wordsmith, this is the course of treatment I would prescribe for you sir. In all matters of wavering devotion, find strength in your faith. Amen. I shall lift my face to God and sing a hosanna to Cella...

Cella! Cella! Thrice I praise you! Cella!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: I loves me some Golden Monkey!

[RichGem]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: I lurvvez me some Golden Monkey!


ftfy

And GM lurves his kitteh.

[GoldenMonkey]

The boys from Compton sendin' some shouts out to Johnnie Cash ... :wink2:

AWESOME! I haven't heard that, but Tha Dogg gots ta rekanize tha almighty JC, knowhutI'msayin'?


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: I loves me some Golden Monkey!

I lurvez you too! Lol...:001_tt2:

[luvmysuper]

GM - That was an awesome translation, and I'm deeply in your debt for the assistance.

Thank you very much.

[Painter]

As I lift mine grievous skull wayward for The Little Hill and summon soothsayer Golden Monkey.

Oh great and wise please devise and crack and decipher what has plaqued me. The odiferous odour LEATHERNECK?

And close your eyes with holy dread for he on honey dew hath fed and drunk the milk of paradise.

[RichGem]

As I lift mine grievous skull wayward for The Little Hill and summon soothsayer Golden Monkey.

Oh great and wise please devise and crack and decipher what has plaqued me. The odiferous odour LEATHERNECK?

And close your eyes with holy dread for he on honey dew hath fed and drunk the milk of paradise.


Leatherneck to me smelled very much like a freshly opened bandaid with a dash of mercurichrome thrown in. uck.

[ouch]

Good morning gentlemen...please excuse my tardiness. As to the aforementioned linguistic aberration:

"TGQ Leatherneck smells like sh*t!

Cella in the sella up in dis muddaf*cha. "If your scared MF'er got to church". Go to church luvmysuper.

CELLA CELLA CELLA"

This translation is quite simple. Moronic, yet easily understood:

"Although Colleen makes wonderful shave soaps in fantastic varieties of exotic and intriguing scents, I for one am not as enamoured of the Leatherneck formulation. I found the scent somewhat distasteful, yet cannot find the adequate words to express my impression of the bouquet. Perhaps I should while away the hours on Basenotes in order to acquire the necessary descriptors, giving me the necessary language to better communicate my thoughts and feelings.

I also take exception to your vilification of Cella, my good man. This particular product is a top performer, and I strenuously object to your marginalization of said soap. Once again I am at a loss for words, so I shall resort to crude and grammatically incorrect vulgarities in an attempt to refute your claims. My false bravado dictates that I attempt vociferous lyrical rhyming schemes, but alas I am no Doctor Andre Romelle Young, or one of his contemporaries. My metaphorical allusions fall short, but I wish to imply that if you disdain the wonderful characteristics of Cella, perhaps you are are harbouring doubt and mistrust in your heart. In times of trial or tribulation one finds one's will turned over to a higher power, and one seeks solace and guidance from God. Were I a Doctor of Dre's repute, and as eloquent of a wordsmith, this is the course of treatment I would prescribe for you sir. In all matters of wavering devotion, find strength in your faith. Amen. I shall lift my face to God and sing a hosanna to Cella...

Cella! Cella! Thrice I praise you! Cella!

I just busted a gut reading that. :lol:

That made my day.

[RichGem]

I just busted a gut reading that. :lol:

That made my day.

Hear that guys? The Czardom made Ouch's day! :w00t:

[GoldenMonkey]

I bow the greatness that is Ouch, but I must obligingly bow even deeper to my Czar...

[RichGem]

I bow the greatness that is Ouch, but I must obligingly bow even deeper to my Czar...

:thumbsup:

[GoldenMonkey]

:thumbsup:

And that makes your happy 13,000th post! Congrats!

[RichGem]

And that makes your happy 13,000th post! Congrats!

Wow, I didn't even notice.

woot!

(NOW do I get my custom title back? hint hint)

[Topgumby]

Good morning gentlemen...please excuse my tardiness. As to the aforementioned linguistic aberration:...


Cella! Cella! Thrice I praise you! Cella!

GoldenMonkey, you could make a soul-stirring sonnet out of a bag of sour owl droppings...or even a puck of Williams smothered in Lilac Vegetal!

[Painter]

Golden Monkey, Golden Monkey hear my gutt, shall I call you Golden Calf! Levites step forth.

Leatherneck top not, middle note, base note - monkey poopoo. For a lack of words!

Fav soaps. AOS sandalwood
Fav creams. Castle Forbes cedar - really juniper
The Gentleman's Quarter - Desert Ironwood

Read Your Book - YEHOVA

[GoldenMonkey]

:confused1

[gollum83]

Care to translate, GM? :confused1

[Topgumby]

I think he said he's stuck in Folsom Prison.

[SliceOfLife]

I'll try...

"Heathen that has come down from Zion. Be wary the thorns of tongues upon thy breast. For the beating of a thousand reeds shall guide the unchosen child to the heaven's birds great folly. And with riches then assumed as earth under the nails of the ploughman. Only then wilt thou bear witness to that which has been foretold here and for all times past... with soap."

[Blondie]

Golden Monkey, Golden Monkey hear my gutt, shall I call you Golden Calf! Levites step forth.

Leatherneck top not, middle note, base note - monkey poopoo. For a lack of words!

Fav soaps. AOS sandalwood
Fav creams. Castle Forbes cedar - really juniper
The Gentleman's Quarter - Desert Ironwood

Read Your Book - YEHOVA

I am going to take a stab at this one. I think what we have here is an Al Quada infiltrator. Golden Monkey - Golden Calf is clearly a biblical reference, as is Levites. A tribe that served political and religious function to the Israelites.

He is bashing Leatherneck, a clear indication of fear and loathing of the United States Marine Corps, who have been giving Al Quada fits.

A mocking taunt to "read our book"

Or he could be a babbling fool...

We may need to get Jack Bauer on the case...

[Painter]

Czar step forth! The people have demanded our most capable redeem Tabac, Cella, and Leatherneck of this most infamous degradation. Nevermind Painter as he is an incompetent degenerate and new beyond this curtain!

Post Script - Hazing commence

Leatherneck - Momma just changed baby diaper! Ahhh.

[gollum83]

I think he said he's stuck in Folsom Prison.

Does he have the blues?

[Painter]

Yes, thank you good bad and ugly. But, let us stick to the soaps!

[Topgumby]

"When I was just a baby, my momma said 'You dope,
Always stick with name brands, don't try them small time soaps!'
But I ordered up some Leatherneck, just a puck to try,
Now when I smell that funky lather,
I hang my head and cry....Yah!"


BTW, I'm thinking of ordering some Leatherneck just based on the name....

[SliceOfLife]

Isn't it convenient that Wood ash and pig fat magically makes an extremely useful item? I mean if you're inclined towards that line of reasoning.


Hey I'm just trying to answer your question. ;)

[brianw]

91449 whoo boy

[GoldenMonkey]

I'm sitting this round out...you boys play nicely with the troll, now...:001_tt2:

[brianw]

Don't look under the bridge

[SliceOfLife]

Just a reference to intelligent design relating God to soap. Potash + fat makes soap. Potash and fat are two things that just happened to be readily available to mankind throughout our development. Why don't Giant clam pearls and iguana livers make soap?


Just playing devil's advocate is all.

[gollum83]

Okay, let's settle this. Has anyone here shaved with iguana livers?

[SliceOfLife]

It basically takes whatever scientists prove and tacks "because God made it so" onto the end. The argument is that the odds of existence developing as it has, unguided, are minute enough that it can be argued from a probabilistic stance that some intelligence shaped it.


On that vein, the odds that the two things that make soap just happen to be readily available to much of human society throughout time would suggest that something, a god if you will, made it that way.


Hence, soap is related to God.:tongue_sm


Now ask me to relate Peter Gabriel to Peter O'Toole in six steps.

[mercury895]

Okay..

I'll fess up . . . Can't we all just get along??

Nice work. Fascinating point.

[gollum83]

It basically takes whatever scientists prove and tacks "because God made it so" onto the end. The argument is that the odds of existence developing as it has, unguided, are minute enough that it can be argued from a probabilistic stance that some intelligence shaped it.


On that vein, the odds that the two things that make soap just happen to be readily available to much of human society throughout time would suggest that something, a god if you will, made it that way.


Hence, soap is related to God.


Now ask me to relate Peter Gabriel to Peter O'Toole in six steps.

No offense, but I don't think the soap forum is the proper place for a theological discussion.

[SliceOfLife]

Damn, I forgot the sarcasm smiley again.

Don't let the big words fool you, I'm just joking around. I like to sell my jokes well.

[gollum83]

Damn, I forgot the sarcasm smiley again.

Don't let the big words fool you, I'm just joking around. I like to sell my jokes well.

Oh, well never mind then. :blushing:

[Obsessed]

I think itsay Igpay Atinlay.

BTW, now that space hippy TG is gone, I'd like to point out the dangerous nature of being too nice. Not to use another Star Trek reference, but consider what happened when wimp captain Kirk got split from Evil captain Kirk. Sometimes you gotta make like Nick Lowe said and be cruel to be kind.

Right, but you don't want things to end up like the episode with the guy who was white on the left side fighting the guy who was white on the right side: a pointless, civilization-ending battle without end. Permit me to offer a haiku:

Opinions of soaps
May be given with gusto
But don't be a jerk

[SliceOfLife]

I was worried when posting it people would take it seriously. I hoped the tone of the thread prior would help set the mood for it. My humor is a bit dry at times.




I counter Obsessed's haiku with my own.


Who said haiku's have to
Have five syllables in the
First line. Dumb haiku's

[gollum83]

I was worried when posting it people would take it seriously. I hoped the tone of the thread prior would help set the mood for it. My humor is a bit dry at times.

I wouldn't worry it, sometimes your material goes over great, other times it just sort of loses people.

So how you go from Peter Gabriel to Peter O'Toole in six steps? And this better involve soap because I'll be immensely disappointed if it doesn't.

[SliceOfLife]

Well I do have a picture of the two of them in a bubble bath, but the terms of the blackmail state that I can't show any one.

[Mr. Scruffy]

How long have you been using your Wonderedge?

[Obsessed]

I counter Obsessed's haiku with my own.


Who said haiku's have to
Have five syllables in the
First line. Dumb haiku's

Those who are able
Write haikus the proper way
Others change the rules
:wink:

[Painter]

'I love you, your comeliness charms me, my boy!
And if your not willing, my force I'll employ.'
"Now father, now father, he's seizing my arm.
Troll-king has done me a cruel harm."

I love you guys. I love Tabac and Cella, too.

Nevermind what goes on your face, but what comes out of it!

[RichGem]

Czar step forth! The people have demanded our most capable redeem Tabac, Cella, and Leatherneck of this most infamous degradation. Nevermind Painter as he is an incompetent degenerate and new beyond this curtain!

Post Script - Hazing commence

Leatherneck - Momma just changed baby diaper! Ahhh.

Sorry, kids. No love for any of those from me. I have spoken.

[SliceOfLife]

How long have you been using your Wonderedge?

Two days now. I slept in this morning. Shaving with my bedtime shower. I think I'll give Lucifer a go around.

[Blondie]

Yes, thank you good bad and ugly. But, let us stick to the soaps!

It's "The man with no name" to you. :001_tt2: As far as the soaps go, I think luvmysuper made a post a little further down the thread where he said he liked all the soaps listed, and was making a point with the post about how people will react similar to the way you did regarding Cella. With passion and way too argumentative.

[SliceOfLife]

I cant tell if people are seriously taking other peoples jokes seriously or if those posts too are a joke. This is marvelous.

[Topgumby]

Ha! Peter Gabriel played a German sailor on that submarine in "Murphy's War"...Put that in your six degrees of separation and smoke it, sirrah!

BTW, Obsessed, everybody can see that I am Williams on the left side and Tabac on the right...

[Obsessed]

BTW, Obsessed, everybody can see that I am Williams on the left side and Tabac on the right...

There are some haters out here who might think that would make you a Medusan. The fools.

[JPM]

After reading the last several pages of this thread, I have my first B&B induced headache. :yikes:

[Seraphim]

When I iz a shavin, I go for the 3 pass
If'n you don't digg the soap I'm using
Gonna put my foot up yo *censored*

:w00t:

[Doc4]

I cant tell if people are seriously taking other peoples jokes seriously or if those posts too are a joke. This is marvelous.

:cursing: (j/k :wink2:) (j/k about the j/k :wink2:) (j/k about the j/k about the j/k) ... :out::crazy:



I'm tempted to pull out the old Pythoneseque "this thread is getting silly" routine (see photo below) but then would people think I'm being serious? :letterk2::wacko:

[GoldenMonkey]

I think you are seriously silly, Ian...and don't call me Shirley.

And now for something completely different...

http://open.salon.com/files/something_completely_different1238125705.jpg

The Queen with a finger up her nose...:

http://redtreetimes.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/the_queens_nose1.jpg

[richmondesi]

Looks like this one is headed to the Czardom Clown House:w00t:

[Amyn]

Tabac - lathers like dish soap and smells like it (after you've washed the ferret).


I beg to differ - Tabac smells like I left grandpa with a wet dog in a container.

[RichGem]

Looks like this one is headed to the Czardom Clown House:w00t:

It's the fate of most threads around here... rather like valiant warriors being sent off to Valhalla if you ask me. Or something.

[gollum83]

It's the fate of most threads around here... rather like valiant warriors being sent off to Valhalla if you ask me. Or something.

Clown House = Valhalla?

Your math makes little to no sense to me, good sir.

[luvmysuper]

It's the fate of most threads around here... rather like valiant warriors being sent off to Valhalla if you ask me. Or something.

Actually, I agree.

I think it is far nobler for a thread to survive long enough to evolve into inanity than for it to die abruptly with 3 wan replies.


I beg to differ - Tabac smells like I left grandpa with a wet dog in a container.

But then again, if a thread grows too large, no one reads the whole thing for the hidden surprise bits! :lol:

[Obsessed]

Looks like this one is headed to the Czardom Clown House:w00t:


I think it is far nobler for a thread to survive long enough to evolve into inanity than for it to die abribptly with 3 wan replies.

It is far, far better thread I post in, than I have ever posted in before. It is a far, far better subforum it goes to, than it has ever known.

[RichGem]

Clown House = Valhalla?

Your math makes little to no sense to me, good sir.

And that's why you're still a jester. :001_tt2::001_tt2::001_tt2:

[Topgumby]

"I see this thread a-going
Around that clown house bend,
It ain't had a real post,
Since I don't know when

I think I'll go a searching
On the BST,
But this thread just keeps on growin'
And that's what tortures me."

[richmondesi]

"I see this thread a-going
Around that clown house bend,
It ain't had a real post,
Since I don't know when

I think I'll go a searching
On the BST,
But this thread just keeps on growin'
And that's what tortures me."

I could almost hear that deep baritone singing that... awesome!

[RichGem]

I could almost hear that deep baritone singing that... awesome!


"Theeeerrrrreeeeeeeeee's a bathroom on the right."

[GoldenMonkey]

"Theeeerrrrreeeeeeeeee's a bathroom on the right."

That's Fogerty, not Cash...:001_tt2::001_tt2::001_tt2:

[RichGem]

That's Fogerty, not Cash...:001_tt2::001_tt2::001_tt2:

Eyez noed da foo. :001_tongu

[Doc4]

That's Fogerty, not Cash...:001_tt2::001_tt2::001_tt2:

But I locked a thread in Soaps, just to watch it die.
When I hear that tallow's goin', I hang my head and cry.

[RichGem]

But I locked a thread in Soaps, just to watch it die.
When I hear that tallow's goin', I hang my head and cry.

"And I look 'round for the baaaaaaathhrooom on the right1"


:001_tt2:

[kingfisher]

It was the best of soaps, it was the worst of soaps.

[Zyx]

This thread fills me with profound joy.

[du212]

This kind of posts are really negative, I have favs, but bans? I understand that a guy is happy to have the same thoughts about a good soap,....but the same critics? Do you want to post your negative opinions about soaps? Really? Whats the benefit? Do you know the truth about soaps?

I think that there are a lot of soaps because we need a variety of scents, lathers, ingredients,.....a soap that's good for me but it's not for you....YMMV

I don't see any respect in this attitude, It's a pity to see post like that

"The good soap makes lather but it's a good soap, the bad soap makes lather but it's a bad soap"

[brianw]

Did you read the whole post, Jose ??????

[luvmysuper]

Did you read the whole post, Jose ??????

:thumbup1: :yesnod:

[brianw]

:thumbup1: :yesnod:
by the way Phil... Thanks for this post, makes at least me pause and take notice, you really have earned the "Mr. Perspective"

[Topgumby]

Did you read the whole post, Jose ??????

He's exhausted from his first encounter with American Williams... :lol:

[du212]

Sorry, I didn't read the entire post, only the start pages...I am very busy now programming databases, I'll try to read it soon

And yes, Williams has tired me mercyless :lol:

[RichGem]

by the way Phil... Thanks for this post, makes at least me pause and take notice, you really have earned the "Mr. Perspective"

sssh,. u iz swolled hiz hed.

:tongue_sm

[Obsessed]

by the way Phil... Thanks for this post, makes at least me pause and take notice, you really have earned the "Mr. Perspective"


sssh,. u iz swolled hiz hed.

:tongue_sm

Yes, be careful. We don't want a thread that cemented Phil's reputation as "Mr. 'Perspective'" to inflate his ego so much that he loses perspective about his perspective. The intensity of the irony might crash the server.

[du212]

OK guys I didn't understand the spirit of the thread, my post has not the aim to offend the author of this thread, I agree with Phil, sometimes the people are not XXX soap fans, they are the ayatollahs of the XXX soap, then they can be offensive to them who didn't like the XXX soap.

Sorry

[RichGem]

OK guys I didn't understand the spirit of the thread, my post has not the aim to offend the author of this thread, I agree with Phil, sometimes the people are not XXX soap fans, they are the ayatollahs of the XXX soap, then they can be offensive to them who didn't like the XXX soap.

Sorry


And in that spirit, please let it be known that you're ALL WRONG anbout EVERYTHING and that the only opinion that has any validity at all, is MINE. (or, ymmv)


:lol::lol::lol:

[RichGem]

Yes, be careful. We don't want a thread that cemented Phil's reputation as "Mr. 'Perspective'" to inflate his ego so much that he loses perspective about his perspective. The intensity of the irony might crash the server.

Wow, trippy.

[du212]

And in that spirit, please let it be known that you're ALL WRONG anbout EVERYTHING and that the only opinion that has any validity at all, is MINE. (or, ymmv)


:lol::lol::lol:

Up Here is the Ayatollah :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[RichGem]

Up Here is the Ayatollah :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Actually, I prefer "Czar," but I'll cope somehow.

:biggrin:

[du212]

Actually, I prefer "Czar," but I'll cope somehow.

:biggrin:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[luvmysuper]

Yes, be careful. We don't want a thread that cemented Phil's reputation as "Mr. 'Perspective'" to inflate his ego so much that he loses perspective about his perspective. The intensity of the irony might crash the server.

I love irony.

In that spirit, here's an ironic post about iron oxide.

[RichGem]

I love irony.

In that spirit, here's an ironic post about iron oxide.

IRON-ic indeed. Actually, for extra geek points: Iron(II)ic.

[Doc4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-rVVRZoC8

[Mr. Scruffy]

http://christophermattix.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/irony-bird1.jpg

[RichGem]

http://christophermattix.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/irony-bird1.jpg

Looks more like tin or aluminum to me. :a49:

[GoldenMonkey]

Irony is a wonderful thing...

http://clockwatcher23.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/irony.jpg

[Mr. Scruffy]

Looks more like tin or aluminum to me. :a49:

No, it's ironical. You can see some rustical stainicals on the holesicals.

[luvmysuper]

Can we change the title of this thread to "Irony Picture Tag?"

.

[GoldenMonkey]

http://www.inkycircus.com/jargon/images/2007/04/25/eye.jpghttp://img.alibaba.com/photo/10846813/Black_Engraved_Urn.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Sign_language_E.svg/357px-Sign_language_E.svg.png

[luvmysuper]

http://www.inkycircus.com/jargon/images/2007/04/25/eye.jpghttp://img.alibaba.com/photo/10846813/Black_Engraved_Urn.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Sign_language_E.svg/357px-Sign_language_E.svg.png

:lol:

.

[Duckster]

9194991947

[GoldenMonkey]

http://all4yourfun.com/img/bizarre/strange-animals/aye-aye.jpghttp://imgsrv.nightswithalicecooper.com/image/nwac/UserFiles/Image/ronnie_james_dio_.bmp

[GoldenMonkey]

http://chasness.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/iron_eagle.jpghttp://tech-choice.net/greyicons/069272-black-white-pearl-icon-alphanumeric-minus-sign-simple.pnghttp://www.slrphotographyguide.com/images/seagull.jpg

[GoldenMonkey]

http://beeoasis.com/joom/images/stories/irony.jpg
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ironic-funny-19.jpg
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ironic-funny-201.jpg
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ironic-funny-181.jpg
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ironic-funny-161.jpg

[luvmysuper]

How ironic that a post originally about banned soaps is destined to be banned to the clownhouse!

:lol: :lol:

[JPM]

How ironic that a post originally about banned soaps is destined to be banned to the clownhouse!

:lol: :lol:

Banned, or promoted? :lol::wink2:

[SliceOfLife]

Promotion has occurred it seems. Congrats?

[GoldenMonkey]

Here's one for our English friends:

http://www.infolondon.co.uk/images/london-eye.jpghttp://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2008/12/8/1228757594495/Oxford-rowers-001.jpghttp://www.id-wall.com/images/large/MP010107-b-NI-frame--000204.jpg

[GoldenMonkey]

And one for our Japanese friends:

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/U+S+Women+s+Open+Round+Three+j-Wu1ZrANuyl.jpghttp://hishinaka.jp/images/nama-ikura4.jpghttp://calligraphernao.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ni.jpg

[gollum83]

IRON-ic indeed. Actually, for extra geek points: Iron(II)ic.

Do I get extra extra points for using iron's correct oxidation state for rust: Iron(III)? :tongue_sm


Banned, or promoted? :lol::wink2:

Talk to Phil. It's all a matter of perspective. :wink:

[Topgumby]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h38/msgte/motivational_poster_irony-1.jpg

[luvmysuper]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h38/msgte/motivational_poster_irony-1.jpg

For some reason that picture just tickles the heck out of me every time I see it.

[RichGem]

]Do I get extra extra points for using iron's correct oxidation state for rust: Iron(III)?[/B] :tongue_sm



Talk to Phil. It's all a matter of perspective. :wink:


Technically, both are correct :tongue:, however one is more prevalent than the other.

[gollum83]

Technically, both are correct :tongue:, however one is more prevalent than the other.

Sure, if you want to use rust to decide iron oxides in general, in which case it can refer to several different one. However, last I checked the stable form under most normal conditions is iron(III) oxide, you that oxide with that reddish hue that most people associate with rust? Yeah, that's right, I win. You lose. :tongue:

[blackfoot]

I just found this thread. This is the funniest thread I have read in a while. Phil makes a very good point though.

[RichGem]

Sure, if you want to use rust to decide iron oxides in general, in which case it can refer to several different one. However, last I checked the stable form under most normal conditions is iron(III) oxide, you that oxide with that reddish hue that most people associate with rust? Yeah, that's right, I win. You lose. :tongue:

I was speaking oxides in general. :001_tt2:

[gollum83]

I was speaking oxides in general. :001_tt2:

Fine, fine. We're both right. I'm just more right than you. :biggrin:

[luvmysuper]

It's wrinkly.

Can you Iron Oxhide?

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[RichGem]

It's wrinkly.

Can you Iron Oxhide?

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Isn't that the guy from the light saber fight? :scared:

[RichGem]

Fine, fine. We're both right. I'm just more right than you. :biggrin:

Not if you're left handed.

[blackfoot]

It's wrinkly.

Can you Iron Oxhide?

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:lol::lol::lol:

[gollum83]

Isn't that the guy from the light saber fight? :scared:

There is a certain uncanny resemblance there. :lol::lol::lol:


Not if you're left handed.

That's a bit backhanded. :glare:

[RichGem]

There is a certain uncanny resemblance there. :lol::lol::lol:



That's a bit backhanded. :glare:


No, not backhanded. You're just getting your stero-isomerism confused again. :001_tt2:

[gollum83]

No, not backhanded. You're just getting your stero-isomerism confused again. :001_tt2:

Cute, but really, really, really bad. :lol::lol:

[RichGem]

Cute, but really, really, really bad. :lol::lol:

Yeah, but 'till the Vice Czar shows up, I think you and I are among the very few that would get that.

[GoldenMonkey]

:sob: I work HARD, day and night to amuse you guys, and I don't get one...ONE! comment on my irony posts! Are you TRYING to hurt me?!? Because that's what you're doing...:sob:. Would it have killed you to comment on them? I don't ask much, just a little respect and consideration around here, and all I get is SILENCE. Oh, you're just like your FATHERS!












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[gollum83]

*crickets*

[RichGem]

:sob: I work HARD, day and night to amuse you guys, and I don't get one...ONE! comment on my irony posts! Are you TRYING to hurt me?!? Because that's what you're doing...:sob:. Would it have killed you to comment on them? I don't ask much, just a little respect and consideration around here, and all I get is SILENCE. Oh, you're just like your FATHERS!


So............... what's your point?


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[Topgumby]

:sob: I work HARD, day and night to amuse you guys, and I don't get one...ONE! comment on my irony posts! Are you TRYING to hurt me?!? Because that's what you're doing...:sob:. Would it have killed you to comment on them? I don't ask much, just a little respect and consideration around here, and all I get is SILENCE. Oh, you're just like your FATHERS!












:001_tt2:

Whoa, that's ironic.

[luvmysuper]

:sob: I work HARD, day and night to amuse you guys, and I don't get one...ONE! comment on my irony posts! Are you TRYING to hurt me?!? Because that's what you're doing...:sob:. Would it have killed you to comment on them? I don't ask much, just a little respect and consideration around here, and all I get is SILENCE. Oh, you're just like your FATHERS!
:001_tt2:

I thought they were so awesome that any comment that I could have made would have been like walking into the Sistine Chapel and saying "Cool Grafitti".

[Stubblefield]

:sob: I work HARD, day and night to amuse you guys, and I don't get one...ONE! comment on my irony posts! How Ironic.

[Duckster]

:sob: I work HARD, day and night to amuse you guys, and I don't get one...ONE! comment on my irony posts!

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