Gillette razor sampler

[DoubleE]

As new wetshavers come into the forum and begin to learn about the different razors available, the "which Gillette is this" question comes up pretty frequently so I thought I'd provide a snapshot (pun intended) of what's available on the used market (read E-bay). These are the razors I personally own and there are a couple of razors absent such as the Aristocrat and Toggle but hey, it's all I got!! It's not likely I'm going to spend the $100.00 plus that the toggles are bringing now. They were only made one year and that makes them pretty popular with collectors. I hope some find this helpful. Shave quality is my opinion, and as always, YMMV.

http://badgerandblade.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=1382

Top row left to right:

1. Fixed head, all metal screw on handle. Poor to average shaver in my opinion and I don't personally recommend it.

2.Gillette travel razor. These came in several different holders from faux leather to plastic usually including a box of blades. Handle is really too short to be of much use. This particular razor was made in 1967.

3.Superspeed. This is one of my favorite razors. The head design is a little different than the later superspeeds and gives a very nice shave. It remains part of my rotation. This razor was made in 1953 and is a twist to open design, sometimes called "silo" opening.

4.Superspeed. This is a later version with a black handle. Not as good a shaver in my opinion but these are very inexpensive so might be worth a shot if you're just starting out in wetshaving. This razor is also TTO.

5.Superspeed. Gillette made 4 types of this version with slightly different heads and different colored tips on the handles. The one shown has no color, then there were superspeeds with blue, black, and red tips to the handles. The red was the heaviest of all the superspeeds.

Bottom row, left to right

6.Enter the adjustable. This is one of Gillettes first adjustable razors. It has a moveable ring just below the head with numbers 1 to 9. One being the least aggressive and 9 being the most (the blade will be closest to the safety bar on 1 and gets progressively farther away as you dial up the numbers.) This is my favorite adjustable Gillette and is a very popular and a good shaver. It has a nice weight and balance and is a very solid, durable razor. It is sometimes referred to as "fat boy" or "heavy duty". This particular razor was made in 1959.

7.Ladies non-adjustable razor. This was marketed to the ladies for their particular needs. It is light blue with little stars on the handle below the head. Not a bad razor for the guys either it you're secure in your manhood! I like the long handle but it does belong to my wife now. It was made in 1965.

8.Slim adjustable. This is a similar razor to the heavy duty but with a slimmer handle and the head is slightly thinner. I can't seem to get as good a shave with this as the HD which I attribute to the difference in the head design. A lot of guys use them however so they're certainly worth a try. This is a 1966 model.

9.Black handle adjustable. Same as above but with longer, black handle. Again, I know guys who love this razor and it also would be worth trying. This particular razor is a 1973 model.

I've never owned or tried any of the open comb models nor any of the plastic handled Gillettes made in England. I wouldn't recommend them based on what I've seen.

Gillette razors have increased in price recently due in part, I'm sure, to the shaving forums popularity and resurgence of wetshaving. The superspeeds sell from $3.00 to around $10.00 and the adjustables sometimes fetching $30.00 in mint condition. Give them a try....they might be just what you're looking for.

Mike, here you go:
http://badgerandblade.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=1381

The razor on the left is a Tech and is a 3 piece razor.

Next is the 1953 superspeed and the black handled superspeed. As you can tell, the head is a little taller on the older razor than the newer black handled superspeed next to it. This could possibly create a slightly different blade angle relative to the safety bar and is what I attribute the difference in shaves to.

Next are the two adjustables. The head comparisons are just like the two superspeeds above with the heavy duty on the left having the slightly taller head than the newer slim model on the right. Again, I notice a difference in shave quality between the two, but both are popular Gillettes so, it could just be me or my technique with the two razors.

I believe most in this forum, myself included, consider the newer Merkurs to be more aggressive razors especially the Futur and Vision. The Gillettes can be an inexpensive and excellent starter razors and you may even find they are your razor of choice. Coupled with a Feather blade, I can get great shaves with my 1959 fat boy adjustable or my 1953 Superspeed. There's something about shaving with a 50 year old razor that I just enjoy.

[dubes]

Very nice, Jerry! I have a 1956 super speed (all silver handle), and I just picked up a 1963 adjustable (silver, slim handle) that needs a bit of cleaning but is otherwise in super shape.

How about some close-ups of the heads, to show how they changed over the years? (I know: no good deed goes unpunished. :smile: )

Mike

[Scotto]

Great info, Jerry!

[Nick]

Awesome guide Jerry!

-Nick

[obsessis]

yeah, awesome.

[atnight]

Excellent and informative post.

I have skinny Gillette adjustable on the way.

I was looking to pick up a super speed, but whatever is popularizing them right now is really driving the price up to ridiculous heights when you can get a Merkur HD for $30 or whatever.

strange...

[DoubleE]

While I don't read it, I've heard Corey's been touting it as his favorite razor in his shaveblog. I have't looked lately to see what they're going for but they were very inexpensive 6 months ago.

Jerry

[threeputt]

Cool post Jerry. I picked up what I now know to be a Superspeed last weekend ($5) at an antique shop. It's the top center razor in your picture. I know next to nothing about DE's, I normally shave almost exclusively with straights. Occasionally an old Schick Injector if I'm in a big hurry. Haven't shaved with this new acquisition yet, but I'll give it a shot soon. Gotta get it cleaned up first. There appears to be some light rust(?) down in the tiny grooves on the knurled handle. Not sure what to clean that out with. I tried an old toothbrush and some whitening toothpaste. Thought that might work because of the abrasives in the toothpaste, but no luck. It did do a fine job of removing the old soap scum, etc. from the head.

Jeff

[DoubleE]

Jeff:

Congratulations on the nice razor at a nice price! That razor is difficult to clean because of the texture of the handle. I have another that's shinier than the one pictured and I used Flitz metal polish on it. Flitz does a nice job of cleaning the razors. I also hooked up my Dremel with a small buffing pad attached and it helped to get down in the groves more. Let us know how you like shaving with the razor.

Jerry

[threeputt]

I have a dremel with the various attachments, but I also have some brass brushes I might try. I have MAAS, Flitz, etc but didn't think it would get down into the grooves. Probably try that first I suppose. I'll let you know how it goes.

Jeff

[DoubleE]

I added pictures of the heads on the most used razors (except the oldest which is just for the purpose of comparison) showing the differences in the overall shape. Let me know if anything else would help.

Jerry

[Kyle]

Jerry,

Very nice collection. I've got a couple of adjustables and do have future plans of acquiring a super speed.

Kyle

[bladerunner]

Hi-I collect shave mugs and razors. I've always been outgunned and outbid on the Schick injector with adjustable dial. I did buy 2 Pal adjustables on Ebay. I use a Gillette adjustable razor that I've had since I was 16 and love it. Even purchased more on Ebay at good prices. When I moved to Sw suburbs of Chicago back in 1994 one could still buy the adjustables w/black handle at Target. Not any more-the double edge provide the best shave. I have couple of Gillette speeds and even a gold aristocrat. I have the merkur double edge and all 3 adjustable razors, but the old Gillette adjustables are tops, not to mention cheaper. Bladerunner:rolleyes:

[Rik]

Nicely done Jerry! :thumbup:

[roughrider]

Great job Jerry. :thumbsup:

[atnight]

Now I know the Gillette that came with my Hoffritz Slant was a 30's Gillette. Great condition. Too bad it's supposed to be a crummy shaver. I was considering giving it to a friend as a first DE, but perhaps now I'll reconsider until I try it myself.

[DoubleE]

Now I know the Gillette that came with my Hoffritz Slant was a 30's Gillette. Great condition. Too bad it's supposed to be a crummy shaver. I was considering giving it to a friend as a first DE, but perhaps now I'll reconsider until I try it myself.

Bill:

I probably wouldn't consider it a crummy shaver but it's not on par with the superspeed or adjustables in my opinion. I was able to get an ok shave with it but I try not to settle for an ok shave! Gotta have that BBS shave every day you know. You never see anyone using one of those razors in the SOTD and there are tons of them still on the used market. Give it a try, I'll be curious to hear what you think of it.

[atnight]

Bill:

I probably wouldn't consider it a crummy shaver but it's not on par with the superspeed or adjustables in my opinion. I was able to get an ok shave with it but I try not to settle for an ok shave! Gotta have that BBS shave every day you know. You never see anyone using one of those razors in the SOTD and there are tons of them still on the used market. Give it a try, I'll be curious to hear what you think of it.


Thanks for the reassurance. I will try it, but I have fresh blades in the Slant, Injector and Super Speed now, so it may be a few weeks. I'll post back on this thread if I can remember to.

[rtaylor61]

Can we make this a sticky?

Randy

[Rik]

Can we make this a sticky?

Randy
Hear hear! :badger:

[Cliff]

Great guide Jerry, this should be a sticky.

Cliff

[KUJO]

Incredible post Jerry - very informative and well-organized.:thumbup1:

Do you have any info on Gillette's "Rocket" razor? It looks a lot like the early SuperSpeed

[DoubleE]

Incredible post Jerry - very informative and well-organized.:thumbup1:

Do you have any info on Gillette's "Rocket" razor? It looks a lot like the early SuperSpeed

Mustafa:

I believe Rocket was the name for the early superspeeds either made or marketed in Canada and the UK. They appear to be the the same razors from the pictures I've seen.

[SSLStudio]

Yes great review . I now know I dont have the Gillette Fatboy but the slim one. oh bollocks.. I want the Fatboy that one looks so cool..

[rschumacher1]

Great post Jerry,

I had heard people talk about superspeeds and different Gillettes, but I didn't ever know which one was which, and then this, now I know what people are talking about! I agree that this should probably be a sticky, it's one of those that I'll keep going back to.

Randy S

[soulshine]

wow - thanks for the pics. being a new DE user & wanting to purchase a vintage razor, this is going to be a huge benefit for me.

s~s

[Mojinack]

Are the colored pieces in the Super-Speed handle aluminum or plastic? Are the handles of the silver colored Super-Speed razors that are flared, aluminum?

Thanks,

Mo

[DoubleE]

Are the colored pieces in the Super-Speed handle aluminum or plastic? Are the handles of the silver colored Super-Speed razors that are flared, aluminum?

Thanks,

Mo

Mo:

The colored part of the handle on the super-speed is metal, not plastic. I'm not sure what the metal is in either razor. It could be aluminum but feels a little heavier than that to me.

[With The Grain]

i dont think any of the flared knob SS have plastic colored tips but i have a 51 superspeed with an aluminum handle and black plastic tip, same as any other 40's SS but lighter weight and for that i see it as a bad thing.

[Kalypso]

I got a ton of grief on SMF for ID'ing a black handle Super Speed as a 50's model (based on it's date stamp & this primer). It was brought up numerous times that the black painted handles weren't made until 1969 (& Gillette rolled over the serial stamps at the same time). I've alse sent the original poster a PM regarding this, without a reply or the Primer razor's being correctly identified. Is anybody going to fix this, or were all the people complaining wrong?

[DoubleE]

I got a ton of grief on SMF for ID'ing a black handle Super Speed as a 50's model (based on it's date stamp & this primer). It was brought up numerous times that the black painted handles weren't made until 1969 (& Gillette rolled over the serial stamps at the same time). I've alse sent the original poster a PM regarding this, without a reply or the Primer razor's being correctly identified. Is anybody going to fix this, or were all the people complaining wrong?


Kalypso:

Short answer is I don't know. Here's (http://www.geocities.com/safetyrazors/gil_ser2.htm) the resource I used to date my razors. My black handled superspeed is marked A3 and the last A shown for a TTO in that body of work is 1955. It shows in 1974 that A-J were used again but it does not list TTO (twist to open) razors for those dates. So, if someone has researched it more and come up with a different answer, they're obviously using a different source. I will remove the dates on the post on those two razors so as not to create any confusion.

[Kalypso]

If I was misleading in my ID of a razor, I apologize. I too used that link (which is down now) for cross-reference (along with your primer). Gillette rolling over their date stamping didn't make it any easier. But everyone insisting that the black handles were not made until 69 bothers me. I would like to be as accurate as I can be.

[guenron]

If I was misleading in my ID of a razor, I apologize. I too used that link (which is down now) for cross-reference (along with your primer). Gillette rolling over their date stamping didn't make it any easier. But everyone insisting that the black handles were not made until 69 bothers me. I would like to be as accurate as I can be.
Link is UP again... If precise identification is important, epsecially if you have a marketing bent, a fellow named Walts or Waits (the exact name evades my memory) has a book called the Safety Razor Compendium for about $45.. Just think it would be tax deductible and offset all of that razor sale income.:lol:

[JMT]

I was fortunate enought to find a 1953 Gillette Razor at a local antique store for the Bargain price of $1.00. It was covered in crud but I was able to clean it up shine it and now I have been using it. It is a TTO design and the handle looks just like the one pictured above but the knob on the end is slightly gold or brass colored. Does anyone have any ideas as to if this might be a different model or perhaps just an effect of years of neglect.

[With The Grain]

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[JMT]

Jim it is most likely plating loss in the area


Thanks for the reply. That is what i figured but wanted to ask to be sure.

[SSLStudio]

Just to let you know Jerry and others the Nr 9 here with the black handle comes in two different versions ! one with a long handle and one with a shorter handle!

[DoubleE]

You are correct Rene. I almost bid on a pristine short handled one on e-bay recently but just couldn't pull the trigger because I don't use the long handled one! I believe I'm getting my RAD under control!! Unfortunately, my SBAD is way bad!!

[yasuo200365]

Gerry,

An informative post but that Tech razor (No. 1) is not from 1936 ..., the Tech was test marketed in 1938 and available nationally a year later. The shape of the handle is also wrong, the first Techs had thick handles - The Gold Tech handle. I do agree with you though that Techs are not the best a man can get, but some gentlemen like them :mellow:

I can't however agree with your sweeping statement:

"I've never owned or tried any of the open comb models nor any of the plastic handled Gillettes made in England. I wouldn't recommend them based on what I've seen."

The Gillette NEW range of razors from the 1930's consisted of some of the most beautifully crafted razors ever - the De Luxe & Deluxe series of models are a peak in razor form & efficiency. I agree the earlier combs dont work to well with modern thin DE blades (unless shimmed) but the NEW range are equally as good as any bar razor (better even) and aesthetically more pleasing to the eye.

As you said you're missing the Toggle & 1940's Aristocrat - a pity really because they're two of the nicest razors Gillette made.

I with you however on not recommending plastic handled razors:bored:

Regards
John

[DoubleE]

Gerry,

An informative post but that Tech razor (No. 1) is not from 1936 ..., the Tech was test marketed in 1938 and available nationally a year later. The shape of the handle is also wrong, the first Techs had thick handles - The Gold Tech handle. I do agree with you though that Techs are not the best a man can get, but some gentlemen like them :mellow:


Regards
John

John:

You obviously have a different, and maybe more accurate, source than the one I used which was noted and linked earlier. The stamp on the bottom of the head of my razor is G 1 which would be the first quarter of 1936.

[With The Grain]

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[DoubleE]

James:

What's your source of information. I know the dates reset but I didn't think this razor was still being made in the 60s.

[With The Grain]

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[DoubleE]

Didn't the techs change shape in later years?

To keep things simple, I've removed the date on the razor.

[With The Grain]

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[DoubleE]

yes, the slim handle and ball end is the later version, the thick/'bulldog' type handle i believe is the earliest one(almost identical heads though), though i do have an undated tech like the one you have pictured. John will probably chime back in soon enough and clear it up better. Very long running razor, probably becuase they're so easy to use and cheap to make.

That's where the problem lies.....in my mind, I had the ball end as the earlier version for some reason.

[yasuo200365]

Hello Gentlemen,

As I said the Tech was first nationally available in 1939 but they were test marketed a year earlier....., the head basically stayed the same throughout the production and parts are interchangeable. During WW2 the only razor manufactured by Gillette was the Tech, production finally ended in the US in 1973, so it was Gillettes longest production model.

Date codes on razors appeared from 1951, before that date the Techs were unmarked as serial numbering of razors stopped earlier in 1931, about the time King C. Gillette lost his controlling interest in the company...., it would have been earlier if it wasn't for him.

As has already been said John a date code of G1 would make your razor from the first quarter of 1961, the letter codes on the Geosite table between 1932 & 1950 refer to DE blades.

The Tech was popular for so long probably because it was cheap & easy to manufacture, and it worked as a razor.

Regards
John

[With The Grain]

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[rustyblade]

I'm going to help out a bit here. I can't remember all the exact dates of my razors.

http://www.shavemyface.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10494/IMG_2167-small.JPG

From the top. Left to right.

1952 Gillette Superspeed with plastic TTO knob
1954 Gillette Rocket
195? Gillette Blue-Tip SS (Blue=Mild shaver)
1954 Gillette Red-Tip SS (Red=Heavy Beard, More Aggressive)
Late 1950's Gillette Superspeed
1958 Gillette TV Superspeed (One year only)
1960's Superspeed
1954 Gillette Aristocrat
1939 Schick Injector
Merkur Progress
1958 Gillette Toggle
1960's Gillette Long Handle Adjustable
Gillette 195
1960's Gillette Fatboy Adjustable
The Wilkinson Sword Razor

[Joedy]

Here are some pictures of the 1904 Gillette that I recently purchased from an antique store.

The box is in poor shape with one set of hinge nails missing. It still claspes and locks, however. The outer (leather?) skin is missing in quite a few places.

I have not attempted to clean the razor, but some light cleaning will probably improve the looks significantly.

Two Blue Gillette Blue Blades are with the box. I doubt that these are original. One is rusted a bit, but the other one (in the razor) seems rather sound.

I am confident that this is the original 1904 Gillette model. Considering that it is over 100 years old, it's in remarkably good shape after giving untold amounts of shaves. This razor meets all of the indications for a 1904 model razor from this http://www.geocities.com/safetyrazors/gil_ser2.htm (Gillette reference page link.)

-joedy

[americanstrat98]

the first time i shaved i shaved with a Gellette 1966 Adjustable (did not know that then) Dad said if i was going to shave i was to do it right so he tought me how to wet shave. with many attemts i did succeed in attaining the perfect shave. Now 10 years later, Dad presented me with my grandfathers razor as my grandfather did with him. I use it every day now and I would have to say bravo to you for your excellent blog on antique gellettes and i'm glad people still have an interest in a quality shave. Thumbs up to you.
PS. what is the best DE razor to use with my 9-1 Gill. ? I'm currently using muker blades.

[H2Andy]

Here are some pictures of the 1904 Gillette that I recently purchased from an antique store.


joedy, does that razor have a serial number?

i ask because it looks exactly like my 1917 Gillette (dated by serial number).

i understand that the "1904" model was made from 1903 to 1906, and then
was made no more. in 1906, the second model (variously called the 1906 or the 102 model) was introduced.

i believe my razor (and yours) is the 1906 or 102 model, but i could be wrong (i'm a newbie at this)

can anyone clarify?

i'd love to know what the original Gillette (1903) looked like, and what the 1906 (102 model) looked like!

[PalmettoB]

Have you located the serial number? It should be on the cylinder that screws into the bottom (the one that "receives" the screw post that comes down from the cap). That will give you a better indication when looking on the Geocities site of what model it might be.
(Edit: Sorry. When I realized how old this last post in the thread was it was too late. I didn't mean to make it sound as though it took a month to find a serial number!) :wink:

[castlecraver]

Can someone in the know help me ID these 3 Gillettes?

http://badgerandblade.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=4150

The steel closed-bar gives a great shave; the steel open-comb, pretty good; the gold open-comb, not so much.

[joshearl]

Pat,

I know the bottom one is a late model Gillette Tech. I'm starting to use one I got on eBay now, and it is a great shaver. Much more gentle than my 1954 SuperSpeed. The Tech gets treated like the red-headed stepchild of the Gillette family, but in my opinion it's better than the SuperSpeed, especially for beginners.

The other two, I'm guessing, are Gillette NEW models. Ironic, since they're a lot older than your Tech... The Tech wasn't made in an open comb version, I don't think. Others might be able to say more definitely...

Josh

[scruffyv]

how about putting this post (the one that started this thread) in the FAQ section for the BB? Under a section heading such as "How can I determine what razor this is on Ebay?" If we had that along with the links to the letter/number and serial number lookups, we would have it made. Or, we could use the info on the geocities site, and create a table with all of the info in once place-- letters/numbers, pictures by year, comments on effectiveness, and put it in the razor reviews section, and allow folks to add more ratings.

Vin

[drP]

joedy, does that razor have a serial number?

i ask because it looks exactly like my 1917 Gillette (dated by serial number).

i understand that the "1904" model was made from 1903 to 1906, and then
was made no more. in 1906, the second model (variously called the 1906 or the 102 model) was introduced.

i believe my razor (and yours) is the 1906 or 102 model, but i could be wrong (i'm a newbie at this)

can anyone clarify?

i'd love to know what the original Gillette (1903) looked like, and what the 1906 (102 model) looked like!

I bought this razor from Joedy and gave it a clean-up; it has no serial number. This two ring model was made from october 1903 up to june 1906; then the single ring model was introduced and made until 1921.

http://www.shavemyface.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10029/gillettes1904_026_thumb.jpg


On the left: single ring post june 1906 model; on the right double ring pre june 1906 model. This is the razor i bought from Joedy, but photographed after a thorough clean-up!

Peter

[H2Andy]

On the left: single ring post june 1906 model; on the right double ring pre june 1906 model.

nice!

i finally know what a double ring looks like

[Seth]

Great resource..thanks for sharing. I just bought a Gillette traveller from an antique store in Bisbee, AZ. Spent $15 and the thing looks nearly new. The leather case has a small tear but everything looks original including the little cardboard box of blades. I just used it with some Trumpers Lime and have to say that except for the small handle not fitting my big mitts I really liked the shave I got. I love the head and the gap is perfect. I'd love to be able to figure out what year mine was made in.

thanks again
S~

[fire101]

I don't really understand the dating on these old models. I have a open comb single post. On the handle itself, the razor says: PAT.NOV.15'04. However, on the cylinder screw, the serial number is P570149, which I believe dates this around 1921. So is this a 1904 razor or a 1921 razor? Anyone have any idea?

[Crag]

I didn't know that razor with the blue handle was for ladies....all this time I been shaving with it.. I'm starting to question my masculinity :blink: !

Really Jerry, Awesome Post!

[DoubleE]

I didn't know that razor with the blue handle was for ladies....all this time I been shaving with it.. I'm starting to question my masculinity :blink: !

Really Jerry, Awesome Post!

Yea, and you're starting to like those rose and violet shaving creams too aren't you Matt..........:wink:

[Crag]

Yea, and you're starting to like those rose and violet shaving creams too aren't you Matt..........:wink:

As a matter of fact Baloosh just traded me a tub of Lavender.....:eek:

[uncletoad]

I know you all refer to them as Fat boy and Slim, but what did Gillette call them?

[Wayne D]

my first razor at 15 was a Gillete slim adjustable 1968 model that my father gave me, then I commited the crime of moving onto cartridge razors after a couple of months. Oh how I wish I'd kept my Gillete! now 28 years on I use a straight razor ! :biggrin:

[Juaquin]

I know you all refer to them as Fat boy and Slim, but what did Gillette call them?

I believe they were both simply called "Adjustable", hence why we had to specify fat and slim to tell them apart.

[Sabledog]

I ran into this and wanted to give it a bump! :biggrin:

[TacoBell]

Is there a recommended text/catalog with pictures of various generations of razors for collectors? Not so interested in prices just in help in identifying age and style of old razor

[CaptainBob]

Can we make this a sticky?

Randy

+1 I am new to the DE world and this was certainly most helpful.

Thanks

Bob

[Androclese]

All I can say is WOW. I'm just starting to build a collection. I'll be sure to bookmark this thread and use frequently.

Might be a good idea to consolidate the information in this thread into a wiki article.

[SpartanIV]

I have a quick question that I don't think really deserves its own thread. I was checking out the local antique stores and I found a Gillette with case for sale. It is the exact same as the one found in this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Gillette-Razor-Blade-Case-Metal-Vintage-Old-Shaving-Box_W0QQitemZ170182207757QQihZ007QQcategoryZ35989Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ebay auction.

The antique store has it priced at $30 which I think is ridiculous. Not only is it missing some plating, but the razor had a blade left in it and is pretty dirty. Not a collectors item by far.

I really like the case(especially the place to store a pack of blades!) but I can't figure out what type of razor it is. I've tried looking on several websites, but the razor in the store had an illegible serial number, and the ebay razors serial isn't photographed very well, so I am at a loss.

Finally, I mentioned they were selling it for $30, but I think it is only worth around $10. What does everyone else think it's worth? I might go and try and haggle for it! :biggrin:

edit: It is not TTO, instead, when you twist the bottom, it unscrews the top of the razor, which looks like the top of your standard tech, but with a long shaft with the threading at the end. It is a 3 piece razor.

[BUCCANEER]

BRAVO !!!!!!! :shaving:

[BUCCANEER]

I Just Finished My First Shave With Newly Aquired Gillette Slim Adjustable... Level 3 On The Dial... Very Nice Shave... And I Mean Very Nice Shave !!!!!

[MTgrayling]

I thought this may come in handy.

Super Speed vs. Rocket

40's style SS, 40's style Rocket; Flare Tip SS, Flare Tip Rocket; TV Special, TV Rocket; Red Tip SS, Red Tip Rocket
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/csbswMT/BritvsUSAclose_1_1.jpg

Bottom row: Aristocrat Jr., HD DR 500, German Parat
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/csbswMT/BritvsUSA_1_1.jpg

[Al From Maine]

And what are the main differences between the Super Speed v. the Rocket?

Al

[MTgrayling]

And what are the main differences between the Super Speed v. the Rocket?

Al

Besides the obvious, Super Speeds were made in the USA and Rockets are of English origin, the Rockets tend to be of a higher build quality. Rockets also have a diminishing handle length as the TTO doors are opened whereas the SS's stay the same length. The notched post in all British razors I've seen is smaller than a US notched razor. The end caps (actually there are no end caps on Rockets, it is all one piece) are pointy where SS's are blunt. The 40's style Rockets, Aristocrat Jr.s and the HD dr have a solid TTO knob. They have a cooler name as well. :biggrin:

[razorthief]

those are some sexy gillettes. Did you find those all in antique stores in montana?

[milhouse]

Great thread. How's I miss this...

[MTgrayling]

those are some sexy gillettes. Did you find those all in antique stores in montana?

A few of the SS's were found in Montana the rest were acquired from eBay, mostly over the course of a month.

[beikugun]

Nice collection! WIth so many gillettes, I hope that you'll be able to help me. I believe I have a flare tip rocket because of the handle and knob are identical to yours. Only problem is that mine has no markings other than the gillette diamond and the center post on top is sandwiched like a super speed, rather than thicker post like I've seen on all the other rockets.
What do you think?

[mr-razor]

Nice collection! WIth so many gillettes, I hope that you'll be able to help me. I believe I have a flare tip rocket because of the handle and knob are identical to yours. Only problem is that mine has no markings other than the gillette diamond and the center post on top is sandwiched like a super speed, rather than thicker post like I've seen on all the other rockets.
What do you think?

Please post a picture.

[beikugun]

here are some pics. I hope it works.

[mr-razor]

Nice: british Super-Speed 50s or 60s made in Germany (is there no "Made in ..." it´s made in Germany)

[beikugun]

thanks, I was wondering if it might be a knockoff.

[MTgrayling]

here are some pics. I hope it works.

That is very nice! I've not seen one with end caps before. Nice find!

[Kema]

I just bought these Gillettes from second hand market during a motor show.

I believe one with the box is superseed? Made in England and in good condition. Paid 8 Euros.

Second one (Slim Adjustable?) costed only 5 Euros because it didn't have a box included, at least the salesman told me so :) This one is made in the USA. 13 Euros for two Gillettes in good condition seemed a bargain for me or was I ripped of?

Any tips cleaning slims handle from green tan without ruining the coating?

[Kema]

One with the box seems to be 1956 rocket HD 500 Aluminium, not superspeed.
http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece%20solid%20guard%20bar/1950s%20Brit.%20Rocket%20HD%20500%20gold%20Aluminu m.jpg

Another one seems to be 62 model.

[geordie]

The techs didn't come off too well here. I kind of like mine.

[DoubleE]

The techs didn't come off too well here. I kind of like mine.

And everyone needs to remember that very thing every time you read about and consider a product from a review. It's only that person's opinion based on their skin and whisker types, and preferences in general. You really have to try something for yourself to see if it works for YOU.

[MTgrayling]

I thought this may come in handy.

Super Speed vs. Rocket

40's style SS, 40's style Rocket; Flare Tip SS, Flare Tip Rocket; TV Special, TV Rocket; Red Tip SS, Red Tip Rocket
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/csbswMT/BritvsUSAclose_1_1.jpg

Bottom row: Aristocrat Jr., HD DR 500, German Parat
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/csbswMT/BritvsUSA_1_1.jpg

As an addendum, here are three English Super Speed type TTO's that I have come across. All have "Made in England" stamped underhead and they are marked I, II and III respectively.

Blue Tip, English Super Speed, Red Tip
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/csbswMT/BritSSs2_1_1.jpg

[LordGavin]

New to the site, and saw your review, I deft have to agree with you on the Tech. I bought one at an antique store for 5 bucks, and I also bought a single blade GEM for 8. The GEM cuts soo much better then the Gil Tech. Is it the fixed head that makes the blade not cut soo close?

[Ramaniac]

Me liiikes the Faaat Boy. (being one) It is Phat, as my students would say.

[tim613]

If a razor says patented 1904, it can't be any older than 1904, but it can be newer. The patent is the right to the exclusive right to reproduce an invention. While I have not researched the Gillette patent, it probably refers to the blade and to the holder.

[sonofjaguare]

I have number 6 that I got off the Bay bout 6 months ago.Love it!Setting is set on 5 which works perfect.I believe mine is a 1956 model if I remember correctly.

[knlgskr]

Hi-I collect shave mugs and razors. I've always been outgunned and outbid on the Schick injector with adjustable dial. I did buy 2 Pal adjustables on Ebay. I use a Gillette adjustable razor that I've had since I was 16 and love it. Even purchased more on Ebay at good prices. When I moved to Sw suburbs of Chicago back in 1994 one could still buy the adjustables w/black handle at Target. Not any more-the double edge provide the best shave. I have couple of Gillette speeds and even a gold aristocrat. I have the merkur double edge and all 3 adjustable razors, but the old Gillette adjustables are tops, not to mention cheaper. Bladerunner:rolleyes:


I have a Schick adjustable, interested?

Richard

[cowboy5192]

DoubleD,

Did Gillette make an Aristocrat black long handle adjustable (your #9)? I have a gold plated one with a O4 date code, but have not seen any reference to one in any of the threads or info regarding vintage Gillettes.

[AsylumGuido]

DoubleD,

Did Gillette make an Aristocrat black long handle adjustable (your #9)? I have a gold plated one with a O4 date code, but have not seen any reference to one in any of the threads or info regarding vintage Gillettes.

Yes they did, although, it wasn't known as an Arsitocrat, per se. It was simply known as a Gold-Plated Adjustable. (thanks to Achim, once again, for image)

http://mr-razor.com/Rasierer/Adjustable/1969%20Super%20Adjustable%20gold%20O4.jpg

[knlgskr]

I have been trying to send you an Email with some info & questions but your address doesn't work. What address should I use.

Thank you,

Richard

[Kema]

Received this 1915 model today. Needs little buffing and probly I paid too much for this one :( I ain't even shaving with DE anymore :)

[amateriat]

I've been trying to figure out what to do for a replacement razor after my second Merkur got clobbered in a bathroom cleaning "incident"...My eye has been on a Mergress, but last night, while idly(?) cruising the B/S/T page here, became mesmerized by a pair of Gillettes: a late-40s gold Aristocrat and '72 black long-handle Adjustable. I committed to buying them immediately. These will be my first Gillettes: my first DE was a Merkur Vision; when that one was damaged in the first bathroom disaster, I got a Hoffritz/Merkur Futur, which actually fit my shaving gestalt somewhat better than the Vision (which will eventually be sent off to the factory to fixed up, then likely sold (stay tuned if interested). Then the Futur got whacked...it appears to be okay, but I'm not certain yet, hence the search for a replacement. But that one's probably staying, meaning three razors here, and that means I'll have...I'll have a...Lord, I swore this wouldn't happen...help me spit that word out, people... :eek:


- Barrett

[ctakim]

Received this 1915 model today. Needs little buffing and probly I paid too much for this one :( I ain't even shaving with DE anymore :)

Well, I don't know what you paid, but it is a sweet looking razor and case. Should look fantastic with a little shine.

Nice score!:001_smile

[ctakim]

My eye has been on a Mergress, but last night, while idly(?) cruising the B/S/T page here, became mesmerized by a pair of Gillettes: a late-40s gold Aristocrat and '72 black long-handle Adjustable. I committed to buying them immediately. These will be my first Gillettesore[/I] this wouldn't happen...help me spit that word out, people... :eek:


- Barrett

Both Gillettes are excellent shavers. Enjoy!:001_smile

[blackfoot]

This is a very helpful thread!

[wknicholas]

Nice display! I started shaving with a Gillette TTO/Tech razor in about 1950. While in basic training at Ft Carson, CO in 1960, I got a Gillette 3-pc Tech razor (G 1) as a foot locker display for inspections. I had never used this razor until recently when I returned to shaving with a DE razor.

[spamproxy]

Really nice OP. Being a nube, this was exactly what I was looking to find here. Thanks for taking the time.

[LadyScale]

Hello,

I've got an old Gillette Safety razor that was distributed in UK into 1902-1905 years, and it is marked Pat. NOV 15 '04, it looks like a lot of the one you bought to Joedy, but it has only one ring as the one you have put on the left... WAs there a special model or not for th eUK market between 1902-1905 ? DOes anyone have an idea of that ?

I'm sure about what is marked on "my" Razor"

Best regards

The French Unshaved girl with an American or Uk old razor !!!!


how about putting this post (the one that started this thread) in the FAQ section for the BB? Under a section heading such as "How can I determine what razor this is on Ebay?" If we had that along with the links to the letter/number and serial number lookups, we would have it made. Or, we could use the info on the geocities site, and create a table with all of the info in once place-- letters/numbers, pictures by year, comments on effectiveness, and put it in the razor reviews section, and allow folks to add more ratings.

Vin

[LadyScale]

I bought this razor from Joedy and gave it a clean-up; it has no serial number. This two ring model was made from october 1903 up to june 1906; then the single ring model was introduced and made until 1921.

http://www.shavemyface.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10029/gillettes1904_026_thumb.jpg


On the left: single ring post june 1906 model; on the right double ring pre june 1906 model. This is the razor i bought from Joedy, but photographed after a thorough clean-up!

Peter

Hello,

I've got an old Gillette Safety razor that was distributed in UK into 1902-1905 years, and it is marked Pat. NOV 15 '04, it looks like a lot of the one you bought to Joedy, but it has only one ring as the one you have put on the left... WAs there a special model or not for th eUK market between 1902-1905 ? DOes anyone have an idea of that ?

I'm sure about what is marked on "my" Razor"

Best regards

The French Unshaved girl with an American or Uk old razor !!!!

[LadyScale]

oh sorry - wanabe mistake...

[danpass]

I couldn't resist and just ordered a #3 (as listed in the op) from ebay. I hope lol. Here is the listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-49-Gillette-40s-Style-Super-Speed-NDC?item=261037101168&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8928356037496592440

[kosmicken]

Excellent post. Own a 1964 Slim adjustable and love it, but I'd like to obtain some others, for both the purposes of trying and collecting. I see the original post was several years ago. There's an ebay listing for two Superspeeds that appear to be in great condition and the current bid is 27. Buy It Now is 30. Is that a good current price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lot-Of-2-Pre-1951-Gillette-Super-Speed-Razors-/110890544810?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1976eaa