SuperBowl 44.... [Archive]

SRock

01-13-2010, 04:41 AM

All I know is that I've been informed that if the Saints make it to the Super Bowl, my wife, house, kids, and I (presumably) will be fully decked out in Saints regalia. Probably an unusual sight in the NYC suburbs! :biggrin1:

:lol::lol: You know I was one of many who wanted to see a Colts/Saints SB both undefeated going in, but the Saints couldn't do it and the Colts chose not to.

Heck even if the Colts don't make it I'll be decked out in my Colts gear the day of the SB, you gotta support your team through the highs and the lows....

ask a Pats fan. :lol:

thestone725

01-13-2010, 05:47 AM

My prediction is the Chargers and whoever wins the Dallas/Minnesota game goes to the Super Bowl.

Regardless of who goes, AFC wins.

TimmyBoston

01-13-2010, 05:59 AM

texbilly

01-13-2010, 06:06 AM

I think the Cowboys may finally break out this season (after so many years of drama) and win the NFC. Colts will take the AFC. Can't confidently predict the 'Boys can beat the Colts with Peyton at the helm - he's an amazing player and leader and I admire that team a lot. Could be fun!

royalcrown

01-13-2010, 06:14 AM

you gotta support your team through the highs and the lows....

ask a Pats Boston fan. :lol:

There, fixed it for you.

MoJoe

01-13-2010, 06:21 AM

I wouldn't be much of a fan if I didn't pull for my

J*E*T*S - JETS - JETS - JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ratcheer

01-13-2010, 08:39 AM

I am going with the Saints.

Tim

FreezerBurns

01-13-2010, 09:26 AM

http://www.kryptonitekollectibles.com/images/cat/cardinals_logo_small.gif

...if we don't have anymore Ray Finkle issues that is.

SalvadorMontenegro

01-13-2010, 09:56 AM

If it's the Cowboys and Chargers, I think I'm going to stare at the wall for hours and cry.

I'm hoping it's Indianapolis, but I don't have a lot of faith in them against San Diego, because San Diego routinely beats them up. It would be nice to see New Orleans go, but I don't think they'll do it.

I think my ideal match up would be Colts and Vikings.

airplanedoc

01-13-2010, 10:02 AM

My vote goes to the spread

MoJoe

01-13-2010, 10:22 AM

http://www.kryptonitekollectibles.com/images/cat/cardinals_logo_small.gif

...if we don't have anymore Ray Finkle issues that is.

I thought that Finkle played for the Dolphins :001_smile. LACES OUT, DAN!

jadam318

01-13-2010, 10:33 AM

I still want to see a Colts/Saints showdown, but they both are going to have some tough obstacles to overcome. I'll never count out Minnesota and Favre or Arizona. And Indy is going to have to deal with San Diego, which looks tough as of late.

My concern about the Cardinals is how many points they coughed up to Green Bay last week. That and they are facing a rested, healthy Saints offense, the most productive offense in NFL right now.

San Diego has a good looking record except that their last real challenge was Dallas back in early December, and their wins against the Redskins and Bengals were each by only 3 points. I like Rivers, and I think they'll be able to get past the Jets, but I don't think they can handle Indy.

I don't know what to think about Minnesota. They lost an ugly one to Carolina recently but clobbered the Giants the other day. And we all know what Favre is capable of under the pressure of playoffs.

My prediction:

Indy beats San Diego for AFC and goes on to play either New Orleans or Minnesota in the Super Bowl.

If I have to pick an NFC winner, my head's gonna explode. New Orleans has been wicked impressive, but has lost 3 straight lately. Minnesota has a great team, but hasn't had as impressive an overall season as NO. I'd pick the Saints, but only by a little.

Oh, and being a Falcons fan (as embarrassing as that can be) I would love to see an NFC victory in the Super Bowl. However, I'm also a huge fan of Peyton Manning. I'd like to see this Colts team win one.

Prince

01-13-2010, 10:34 AM

I thought that Finkle played for the Dolphins :001_smile. LACES OUT, DAN!

gotta love any Ace Ventura reference.

Pulling for the 'Boys. Hope they can get past Farve.

sol92258

01-13-2010, 10:37 AM

I'm hoping for Saints vs. Colts.
I'll be okay with it if Arizona makes it, though.
Same goes for Favre.

Cowboys can go suck eggs.

sol92258

01-13-2010, 10:39 AM

...if we don't have anymore Ray Finkle issues that is.
yeah, no kidding! that was awful. maybe next year they can afford a kicker :lol:

BrianL

01-13-2010, 10:44 AM

Arizona all the way.

FLTiger

01-13-2010, 11:22 AM

I hope Indy is "one and done," after throwing their last two regular season games. Pro teams are paid to play, and it was an insult to the fans who bought the tickets to those games and to the TV audience and sponsors to sit the starters. :cursing:

After watching the Ravens dismantle the Patriots, I'd like to see them win out, at least, to the Superbowl.

Cowboys can go suck eggs.

Agreed. Any other of the three NFC contenders makes for a better storyline.

Blondie

01-13-2010, 11:33 AM

I'm hoping for Saints vs. Colts.
I'll be okay with it if Arizona makes it, though.
Same goes for Favre.

Cowboys can go suck eggs.

I think the Cowboys can pull it out if they get past Minnesota. Now I would never say anything as rude as go suck eggs. Being a Texas fan though, I have no problem asking you how you feel having beaten a Longhorn team that had a rookie freshman QB, after McCoy was knocked out? Kind of cheapens the victory, doesn't it? That didn't stop alabama from being complete classless bullies and running up the score though, did it? Ah. well, enjoy it, we have so much more to be happy about here in TX, we'll let you have that one every dozen years or so. :biggrin1:

professorchaos

01-13-2010, 11:48 AM

Gentlemen! We are discussing football, NOT attacking each other.

FLTiger

01-13-2010, 11:50 AM

Now I would never say anything as rude as go suck eggs.

If you are indeed a Cowboys fan, then you should be well aware of the general enmity that some folks feel towards your team. I grew up in a Steelers household in the 70's, so I come by my dislike for "America's Team" honestly. :001_rolle

Blondie

01-13-2010, 12:01 PM

If you are indeed a Cowboys fan, then you should be well aware of the general enmity that some folks feel towards your team. I grew up in a Steelers household in the 70's, so I come by my dislike for "America's Team" honestly. :001_rolle

True. They are the most loved, and the most hated team out there. I do however, have the ability to tell other fans they have a good team when it is evident, as the Steelers have been for the last few years. Honestly, my biggest problem being a Cowboys fan isn't the hatred that comes with it, it is having to live with the current owner. I mean, who fires a coach after he wins back to back superbowls?

sol92258

01-13-2010, 12:09 PM

I think the Cowboys can pull it out if they get past Minnesota. Now I would never say anything as rude as go suck eggs.
It was meant in sarcasm, I'm not a fan, but they have played well the past few weeks (unfortunately :tongue_sm)

Being a Texas fan though, I have no problem asking you how you feel having beaten a Longhorn team that had a rookie freshman QB, after McCoy was knocked out?as a Texas fan as well, I hated to see him get hurt, but that's a risk of the game. sure, he's a rookie QB, but you don't get to be second in line at a school like Texas unless you're dang good. he's a tremendous talent and Texas will be good the next few years for sure.

Kind of cheapens the victory, doesn't it? nope, not at all...unless you're bitter

That didn't stop alabama from being complete classless bullies and running up the score though, did it?That wasn't running up the score, and it wasn't classless, that was called RESPECT, because Saban knew the talent of Texas and that a 2 score lead wasn't enough.
Texas, or anyone else, would have done the same thing in that game

Ah. well, enjoy it, we have so much more to be happy about here in TX, we'll let you have that one every dozen years or so. yes, there is a lot to be happy about HERE in Texas, as a Texas transplant myself; actually, seeing as my parents moved here while I was only about 14 months old in Bama, I consider both my home, but I favor the Alabama football team. Big whoop. Sorry that makes me classless.

Gentlemen! We are discussing football, NOT attacking each other.
yeup......

saying for another team to go suck eggs isn't attacking, it's your typical football trashtalk, all meant in fun.

Deal with it.

sol92258

01-13-2010, 12:13 PM

the current owner.
yeah, that's probably my biggest problem with the Cowboys right there :lol:
I tried to be a Cowboy fan, truly did, but beside the owner, just don't know what it is.
could be all the obnoxious Cowboy fanatics here in the NE corner :001_smile

Blondie

01-13-2010, 12:19 PM

It was meant in sarcasm, I'm not a fan, but they have played well the past few weeks (unfortunately :tongue_sm)
as a Texas fan as well, I hated to see him get hurt, but that's a risk of the game. sure, he's a rookie QB, but you don't get to be second in line at a school like Texas unless you're dang good. he's a tremendous talent and Texas will be good the next few years for sure.
nope, not at all...unless you're bitter
That wasn't running up the score, and it wasn't classless, that was called RESPECT, because Saban knew the talent of Texas and that a 2 score lead wasn't enough.
Texas, or anyone else, would have done the same thing in that game
yes, there is a lot to be happy about HERE in Texas, as a Texas transplant myself; actually, seeing as my parents moved here while I was only about 14 months old in Bama, I consider both my home, but I favor the Alabama football team. Big whoop. Sorry that makes me classless.

yeup......

saying for another team to go suck eggs isn't attacking, it's your typical football trashtalk, all meant in fun.

Deal with it.

Let me clarify, I was not calling you classless, I was referring to the behavior of the team, and specifically the coach's decision. Now since this is a shaving forum, I assume you are old enough to shave, and you have been here since you were 14 months old, a time when you did not even know what football is. How can you be a fan of Texas but pull against them in the BCS Championship? Not meaning disrespect, but how can you be a "fan" and want the other team to win?

sol92258

01-13-2010, 12:30 PM

Let me clarify, I was not calling you classless, I was referring to the behavior of the team, and specifically the coach's decision. Now since this is a shaving forum, I assume you are old enough to shave, and you have been here since you were 14 months old, a time when you did not even know what football is. How can you be a fan of Texas but pull against them in the BCS Championship? Not meaning disrespect, but how can you be a "fan" and want the other team to win?
because I'm a bigger fan of the Crimson Tide :biggrin1:
and a bigger fan of the SEC, but I do like Texas, I just hated to see my two top teams face off for the trophy, but either way I would have been happy.
Everyone's got their own reasons, everything's cool.
But I honestly don't feel he was running up the score at the end, but 3 minutes and only a 10 point lead would be nothing for Texas to make it up and tie it, or possibly even win. I don't believe they would have done anymore than run the clock out after that.

All this discussion really belongs in the college football thread though, since this thread is about pro.

Geaux Saints! (how's that for another different state? :lol:...and LSU can go suck eggs!)

jadam318

01-13-2010, 12:34 PM

Boy am I glad I didn't end up the middle of that conversation! I am a die hard SEC fan and would have defended Alabama 'til I was blue in the face.

Anyway, so how 'bout them Colts?

FLTiger

01-13-2010, 12:44 PM

I do however, have the ability to tell other fans they have a good team when it is evident, as the Steelers have been for the last few years.
The hottest team in the NFC right now is the Dallas Cowboys. Their trip to New Orleans a few weeks ago proved that they deserve to be in the playoffs, and that they are capable of beating any other team in the league. They have the talent, that is clear--we will learn in short order whether they have the focus.

If Polamalu had been healthy the entire season, the Steelers would be right there in the playoff mix. Their win/loss record with and without him speaks volumes of his talent, and of their weakness when he is out. Alas, I am no longer a Steelers fan, though I often find myself rooting them on out of habit.

Honestly, my biggest problem being a Cowboys fan isn't the hatred that comes with it, it is having to live with the current owner.
He is...quite a character, but he's no Al Davis. :lol:

How can you be a fan of Texas but pull against them in the BCS Championship? Not meaning disrespect, but how can you be a "fan" and want the other team to win?
If you are born into a Crimson Tide household, you likely bleed red and white until the day you die. Alabama football fanaticism runs strong and deep, both for the "Rammer Jammer" folks, and for us "Cow College" supporters.

sol92258

01-13-2010, 12:46 PM

Boy am I glad I didn't end up the middle of that conversation! I am a die hard SEC fan and would have defended Alabama 'til I was blue in the face.

Anyway, so how 'bout them Colts?
:lol::lol::lol:
Blue in the face...Colts....I get it!!! :thumbup1:

yeah, I'm not mad, it just strikes me as hilarious how often we get so wrapped up in our favorite teams that we take it personal when that team loses, and we've got nothing to do with :lol:

I'm proud of being from Bama, I love going and visiting the other 92% of my family a couple times a year.
I enjoy rooting for a team that isn't a "local" team to my area - here, in NE Texas, the "local" popular teams are Texas, A&M, Arkansas, LSU, and a little bit of Oklahoma. For pro it's Dallas, some Houston and some N'awlins. I have family from N'awlins, so it's easy for me to like the Saints. I put up day in and day out with Cowboys fans all the time, I get sick of hearing about it. If all the Cowboys fans were more like my father-in-law, you like 'em and pull for them every week, but don't get obnoxious about it, I might actually like them more. When I went to college, there was far less Cowboy-itis, and I gave myself an honest try to be a fan of my home state team, and be out of the ordinary of those around me at the time, but I didn't like the owner, the coach (JJ), or most of the players. I respect Troy, I really like Emmitt Smith, but that was about it.
There's my story.

Blondie

01-13-2010, 02:11 PM

He is...quite a character, but he's no Al Davis. :lol:

I truly believe he is trying though! As you said, Focus is the one factor we will see about. I am curious if they would have had a bye if Romo would have pulled that Cabo BS again. As soon as that happened, I knew we were out in the first round. That and Wade Phillips comment "people have to realize, that with the bye, we've essentially already won a playoff game" Yeah, sure. As a fan, I remain guardedly optimistic. At least they are hot late in the season, and they have the "can't win in December" and "can't win a playoff game" monkeys off their backs.

FLTiger

01-13-2010, 06:34 PM

As a fan, I remain guardedly optimistic. At least they are hot late in the season, and they have the "can't win in December" and "can't win a playoff game" monkeys off their backs.

I'll amend my comments by adding that the best story this year for the Cowboys is the meteoric rise of Miles Austin. Imagine what will happen to his stock if he manages to catch a touchdown that seals a playoff game, or perhaps the Superbowl itself?

Wilpar76

01-13-2010, 06:55 PM

All there is to say

FreezerBurns

01-13-2010, 07:42 PM

I thought that Finkle played for the Dolphins :001_smile. LACES OUT, DAN!

I'm sorry... Did I say Ray Finkle? I meant Neil Rackers, who is paid money to make field goals. Especially game winning field goals.

FreezerBurns

01-13-2010, 07:52 PM

All there is to say

Formerly known as:

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Blondie

01-13-2010, 07:59 PM

I'll amend my comments by adding that the best story this year for the Cowboys is the meteoric rise of Miles Austin. Imagine what will happen to his stock if he manages to catch a touchdown that seals a playoff game, or perhaps the Superbowl itself?

He has been fun to watch. You are right, if he can catch a superbowl winning pass, his stock will go through the roof.

ouch

01-13-2010, 08:07 PM

All I know is that I will watch my 44th consecutive Super Bowl.

Blondie

01-13-2010, 08:08 PM

All I know is that I will watch my 44th consecutive Super Bowl.

That's alot of Superbowls!

sol92258

01-13-2010, 09:10 PM

All I know is that I will watch my 44th consecutive Super Bowl.
I would say that, but I'm not old enough to have seen 44 Super Bowls :lol: (you know, live when they happened :shifty:)

SalvadorMontenegro

01-13-2010, 10:50 PM

I'll amend my comments by adding that the best story this year for the Cowboys is the meteoric rise of Miles Austin. Imagine what will happen to his stock if he manages to catch a touchdown that seals a playoff game, or perhaps the Superbowl itself?

I was lucky enough to pick up both Miles Austin and Desean Jackson in my fantasy league. Oh yeah, I won it big time! Oh yeah!

SRock

01-14-2010, 01:45 AM

My team's out, but I guess I'm pulling for the Colts now, not because I'm a fan, but because I want to see all this taxpayer money that they've used to put into the team hopefully pay off and since I'm one of those taxpayers I want things to improve for this city.

Who's your team and how/why are you not a Colts fan? Oh yeah, Indy transplant. I forget, who's your team.

There, fixed it for you.

:lol:

I wouldn't be much of a fan if I didn't pull for my

J*E*T*S - JETS - JETS - JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's right! To be honest I wouldn't be surprised to see the JETS go further than most expect. If they make it past San Diego they could be on to something!

If it's the Cowboys and Chargers, I think I'm going to stare at the wall for hours and cry.

I'm hoping it's Indianapolis, but I don't have a lot of faith in them against San Diego, because San Diego routinely beats them up. It would be nice to see New Orleans go, but I don't think they'll do it.

I think my ideal match up would be Colts and Vikings.

I don't put much stock in opposing teams 'history'. The Colts have all of the tools necessary to defeat SD. That's not discounting SD's skills at all.

My overall prediction in the office pool is Colts over Vikings. I went with Colt over the winner of the Vikes/Cowgirls game here for argument sake.

Boy am I glad I didn't end up the middle of that conversation! I am a die hard SEC fan and would have defended Alabama 'til I was blue in the face.

Anyway, so how 'bout them Colts?

Team of the decade baby! Statistics don't lie! Go COLTS!

All there is to say

:lol::lol::lol:

All I know is that I will watch my 44th consecutive Super Bowl.

I've been alive for 34 of them but I don't remember them prior to 1985 (Super Bowl XX).

ratcheer

01-14-2010, 03:54 AM

I would say that, but I'm not old enough to have seen 44 Super Bowls :lol: (you know, live when they happened :shifty:)

I can't say that I've seen all the Super Bowls, but I did see Super Bowl I (on TV). I was 15 years old.

Tim

Obsessed

01-14-2010, 04:40 AM

Formerly known as:

http://www.fanaticfanz.com/catalog/images/180px-Cleveland_Browns_Dawg.png

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!! !!!!! Can we have that post deleted and the member pelted with rotten fruits and vegetables? :cursing::mad5::mad2::a32::a52: :wink:

thirdeye

01-14-2010, 04:44 AM

Redskins......

Oh you mean this year....:blush:

SRock

01-14-2010, 04:48 AM

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!! !!!!! Can we have that post deleted and the member pelted with rotten fruits and vegetables? :cursing::mad5::mad2::a32::a52: :wink:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

profsaffel

01-14-2010, 05:07 AM

Minnesota and the Colts for the Superbowl and Favre will finally get that last MVP that he can't claim in his amazing career.

SRock

01-16-2010, 05:53 PM

So, now that Philly, New England, Green Bay and Arizona (got crushed) have been eliminated, anyone care to modify their picks?

I still say Colts vs. the winner of the Dallas/Minnesota game (most likely the Vikings).

Our Peyton, who art in Indy, Hallowed be thy arm. Thy Bowl will come, it will be won, in Miami as it was in 07. Give us this Saturday, our weekly win, And give us many touchdowns, but don't let the evil Ravens score against us. Lead us not into frustration; But deliver us a Super Bowl, for thine is the dynasty, the ............NFL's best, and the glory of Indy....forever.

professorchaos

01-16-2010, 05:57 PM

Who dat! Who dat! Who dat!

Blondie

01-17-2010, 03:14 PM

As I said, "Guardedly optimistic". Not one upset so far this weekend...

texbilly

01-17-2010, 03:18 PM

So much for my Cowboys. :mad3: The Saints better watch out after I saw the Vikings play today.

So, Colts v. Vikings is my prediction.

SalvadorMontenegro

01-17-2010, 04:34 PM

As long as it's the Colts, it's gonna be a GREAT Super Bowl. Manning vs Favre or the two top teams in the league against one another. Watch the Jets or Chargers screw everything up and win next week.

SRock

01-17-2010, 05:21 PM

J-E-T-S, JETS! I didn't see that one coming. I would have picked the chargers but I think I'm grateful that the Chargers have been eliminated.

I'm standing by Colts/Vikings for a QB shootout!

garyg

01-17-2010, 06:19 PM

Jim1968

01-17-2010, 06:21 PM

Since the Cardinals took out my team. I have to root for my back up team and no it is not because Farve is playing for the Vikings. My two favorite teams have always been the Packers and Vikings. I just lean toward the Packers.

DunEdinRanger

01-17-2010, 06:23 PM

....who's going and who's going to win?

Predictions, gents. What say ye?

I'm going with Indy vs. the winner of the Dallas/Minnesota game.

Naturally, I have to pick the Colts to nail down the championship.

It will be Saints - Colts.

With the Saints winning in the 4th Quarter, 28-24

SRock

01-17-2010, 06:23 PM

But will the Dolts show up and play hard this time? After insulting the sport, let alone their fans a couple weeks ago, by quitting at the half. Against the Jets no less, I hope they lose big, and are required to stay & play both halves before getting to take it easy for 6 months.

This is one thing I'll never understand in the world of professional sports. Haters. Whats the point? Why would you wish something bad on anyone?

That's like anytime someone says X team sucks. Normally they are saying it about one of if not the best team in their respective sport. I can understand saying, I don't like X or Y is my team so I don't like X but I'll never understand unfounded hatred.

That said, as a Colts fan I certainly hope they go on to win the SB because both they and their fans deserve it.

Argonaut

01-17-2010, 06:24 PM

JETS = Cindarella story. Already far exceeded anyones expectations and have momentum. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.:thumbup1:

SRock

01-17-2010, 06:26 PM

JETS = Cindarella story. Already far exceeded anyones expectations and have momentum. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.:thumbup1:

That could very well be. They definitely exceeded expectations. I wouldn't have bet on them against the Chargers, but they came through.

Argonaut

01-17-2010, 06:31 PM

That could very well be. They definitely exceeded expectations. I wouldn't have bet on them against the Chargers, but they came through.

Nobody who is a lifelong JETS fan ever bets on them, we just take what we can get!:laugh:

garyg

01-17-2010, 06:47 PM

This is one thing I'll never understand in the world of professional sports. Haters. Whats the point? Why would you wish something bad on anyone?

That's like anytime someone says X team sucks. Normally they are saying it about one of if not the best team in their respective sport. I can understand saying, I don't like X or Y is my team so I don't like X but I'll never understand unfounded hatred.

That said, as a Colts fan I certainly hope they go on to win the SB because both they and their fans deserve it.

Sorry if I offended, but facts are stubborn things. My point was simply that the team's decision to coast to a loss in a regular season game was, in my simple opinion, contrary to the spirit of the game as I was taught it. They sat the starters & just took a dive. As such, they won't get my support. No hate, I'll just wish good on the Jets.

SRock

01-17-2010, 06:48 PM

Nobody who is a lifelong JETS fan ever bets on them, we just take what we can get!:laugh:

So you know what Lion's fans go through. :lol:

Argonaut

01-17-2010, 06:56 PM

So you know what Lion's fans go through. :lol:

My condolences to all Lions fans, as a big Billy Simms and Barry Sanders fan I have shared some of your pain.:blush:

SRock

01-17-2010, 06:58 PM

Sorry if I offended, but facts are stubborn things. My point was simply that the team's decision to coast to a loss in a regular season game was, in my simple opinion, contrary to the spirit of the game as I was taught it. They sat the starters & just took a dive. As such, they won't get my support. No hate, I'll just wish good on the Jets.

No offense taken. I do understand what you are saying and many feel the same way you do in regards to throwing the perfect season. However, in the history books most look at Lombardi trophy's. I mean look at the Pats, most fans have all but forgotten that they went to the SB undefeated because they lost. If that is the understood objective of playing I see why they did what they did. I don't like it, but I do understand not wanting to risk your starters. It is troubling because I know they could have beat the Jets and walked through the Bills. I have mixed emotions to be sure about tossing the final two games.

garyg

01-17-2010, 07:00 PM

You want to have it bad? Try being a Browns fan, transplanted to Michigan ..

SRock

01-17-2010, 07:01 PM

You want to have it bad? Try being a Browns fan, transplanted to Michigan ..

My condolences to all Lions fans, as a big Billy Simms and Barry Sanders fan I have shared some of your pain.:blush:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

garyg

01-17-2010, 07:10 PM

No offense taken. I do understand what you are saying and many feel the same way you do in regards to throwing the perfect season. However, in the history books most look at Lombardi trophy's. I mean look at the Pats, most fans have all but forgotten that they went to the SB undefeated because they lost. If that is the understood objective of playing I see why they did what they did. I don't like it, but I do understand not wanting to risk your starters. It is troubling because I know they could have beat the Jets and walked through the Bills. I have mixed emotions to be sure about tossing the final two games.

Ok, but throwing games is just a little way down the road. Ask Pete Rose, he only bet the Reds to Win, but if they won by less than the margin .. just saying

SRock

01-17-2010, 07:13 PM

Ok, but throwing games is just a little way down the road. Ask Pete Rose, he only bet the Reds to Win, but if they won by less than the margin .. just saying

True, but I don't think the Colts pulling their starters is anything like what Rose did.

garyg

01-17-2010, 07:27 PM

Argonaut

01-17-2010, 07:27 PM

Ok, but throwing games is just a little way down the road. Ask Pete Rose, he only bet the Reds to Win, but if they won by less than the margin .. just saying

While I hope you get your wish(JETS win), and I agree you don't trade a chance at history to save your starters, what Stinky Pete did doesn't really apply in this scenario. I think it was a rookie coach playing the "smart" card, I think if Manning had his say in it, the JETS would be watching the playoffs on T.V.. However, karma can be a b-tch. Here's to karma!:thumbup1:

Obsessed

01-17-2010, 07:33 PM

I have two words to say to those who question what the Colts did: Wes Welker.

I'm not a Colts fan and I really don't care all that much, but I think the outrage over the whole thing is a bit much.

SRock

01-17-2010, 07:36 PM

I have two words to say to those who question what the Colts did: Wes Welker.

I'm not a Colts fan and I really don't care all that much, but I think the outrage over the whole thing is a bit much.

This is a very good point, both points in fact.

Sam F

01-17-2010, 07:37 PM

Sorry if I offended, but facts are stubborn things. My point was simply that the team's decision to coast to a loss in a regular season game was, in my simple opinion, contrary to the spirit of the game as I was taught it. They sat the starters & just took a dive. As such, they won't get my support. No hate, I'll just wish good on the Jets.

My question through all of this was what if they do play all there starters and Manning gets hurt trying to win a game that meant nothing and was unable to play in the playoff? The fact of the matter is it is not about winning any one game it is about championships and doing what has to be done.

That being said this Steeler fan remembers being an underdog in Indy. Watch out for those Jets Peyton

Sam

SalvadorMontenegro

01-17-2010, 07:49 PM

One could never prove it anyway, but it just seems wrong when a team "throws" or "tosses" a game. What if me Brownies just didn't come out after halftime in the fourth game of the season, when they are assured of their spot in the playoffs, preferring to save it for next year?

Some would say the fans can vote with their feet, but where would the Hoosiers walk? :001_smile

I wouldn't say they "threw" the game. That implies that they tried to lose. They built up a lead and then decided to bench the majority of the stars. That doesn't mean the backups didn't come in and try to win the game. I realize that in either case they lost the game, but there's a difference between intentionally losing and trying to win without your best lineup.

GFlanagan3

01-17-2010, 08:07 PM

You want to have it bad? Try being a Browns fan, transplanted to Michigan ..

no comment

Trendkill

01-18-2010, 02:22 PM

Packers fan here, but I'm originally from Indiana so I'm pulling for the Colts. I think we'll get the matchup that most wanted to see 6 weeks ago: Colts vs. Saints.

I think the Colts have too much experience and the Vikings don't play well on the road.

professorchaos

01-18-2010, 03:28 PM

JonDC

01-18-2010, 08:42 PM

I think Colts vs. Saints would be good, but as long as my beloved Colts are there, I don't really care.

SalvadorMontenegro

01-18-2010, 10:45 PM

JonDC

01-19-2010, 05:29 PM

Are you me? I'm from Washington, D.C. and have been a Colts fan for 15 years, though I'm a fan of the Skins, as well.

Even though I consider DC home after living here for a dozen years, I'm a native Hoosier. I was 13 when the Colts moved to Indy, and I've been a fan ever since.

I'm ambivalent about the Skins, but I do take some perverse pleasure in watching how such a tradition- and money-rich team can constantly set new lows for the NFL.

ratcheer

01-20-2010, 04:07 AM

I still think it will be the Saints.

Just about every team I have been pulling for in this year's playoffs has won. So, now I have no one to be against. How odd! I really like the Saints, Vikings, and Colts, and I don't dislike the Jets.

Brett Favre is really something. Maybe the best quarterback, ever. I loved the broadcast comment in Sunday's game. After he threw the third TD pass to the same receiver, one of them said, "Brett Favre really has a lot of confidence in (him)." The other announcer said, "Brett Favre has a lot of confidence in Brett Favre."

But Manning and Brees are no slouches, either. Time will tell.

Go Saints!

Tim

SRock

01-20-2010, 04:56 AM

I think Colts vs. Saints would be good, but as long as my beloved Colts are there, I don't really care.

Are you me? I'm from Washington, D.C. and have been a Colts fan for 15 years, though I'm a fan of the Skins, as well.

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I'm actually a Hoosier transplant. I was born in Maine but moved to Indy at only a few months old. I was 8 when the Colts finally came 'home'.

Confilo

01-20-2010, 09:16 AM

I want the JETS

FLTiger

01-20-2010, 10:17 PM

However, in the history books most look at Lombardi trophy's.

History books don't refund the hard-earned money that the fans shelled out to watch those games. These are professional sports teams, and I expect them to give their all in every game until victory is certain.

Any starter can get hurt at any time--just ask Colt McCoy...or Plaxico Burress.

SRock

01-21-2010, 01:37 AM

I want the JETS to lose to the Colts!

FTFY :lol:

History books don't refund the hard-earned money that the fans shelled out to watch those games. These are professional sports teams, and I expect them to give their all in every game until victory is certain.

Any starter can get hurt at any time--just ask Colt McCoy...or Plaxico Burress.

True, true, but I don't know a single Colts fan who would rather have a 16-0 season over another Super Bowl victory. I know people say they are out there, but I have yet to meet one.

Confilo

01-21-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Confilo
I want the JETS to lose to the Colts!

FTFY

Thanks for finshing my thoughts! :lol:

FLTiger

01-21-2010, 12:42 PM

FTFY :lol:

True, true, but I don't know a single Colts fan who would rather have a 16-0 season over another Super Bowl victory. I know people say they are out there, but I have yet to meet one.

I've yet to see it established that this was an either/or proposition.

sol92258

01-21-2010, 12:57 PM

It will be Saints - Colts.

With the Saints winning in the 4th Quarter, 28-24
hard to win it before then, doncha think? :wink2::001_cool:

Go Saints!

umm, that's spelt "GEAUX" :thumbup1:

SRock

01-22-2010, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Confilo
I want the JETS to lose to the Colts!

FTFY

Thanks for finshing my thoughts! :lol:

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hard to win it before then, doncha think? :wink2::001_cool:

umm, that's spelt "GEAUX" :thumbup1:

Geaux home! :lol: I don't think the Saints are going to get past the Vikings....

SRock

01-23-2010, 11:42 PM

Looks like the General is ready to lead his troops. Bring on the Jets!

SRock

01-24-2010, 03:20 PM

Colts win, Colts win, we're going to the Super Bowl!!!!

I'd like to tip my hat to all of the NY Jets and their fans. You got their on the shoulders of a Rookie QB and I suspect you have many great years coming ahead of you!

Look out Miami, here we come again!

TimmyBoston

01-24-2010, 03:24 PM

castlecraver

01-24-2010, 03:32 PM

Whew. Slightly concerned there for a bit, but I knew the horsies were going to pull it out! Go Colts! :thumbup1:

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Crap on history and the chance at football immortality, and you do NOT deserve support:mad3:

Yeah, I'm not a Favre fan anymore either.

Frank7580

01-24-2010, 03:48 PM

No, it's not a candid photo... but this was an extra special gift for my son. He turned exactly four years old during the second half :biggrin1:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ONJLFpZGO4I/SwG-yMtccSI/AAAAAAAAARc/WM3fNs45XrQ/s1600/IMG_0345.JPG

professorchaos

01-24-2010, 07:38 PM

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richmondesi

01-24-2010, 07:39 PM

Yeah... I get to root for a team in the Super Bowl:thumbup1:

Doesn't hurt that I know Drew's brother!

SRock

01-25-2010, 01:44 AM

SRock

01-25-2010, 02:44 AM

Live in Arkansas but grew up in South Louisiana. Geaux Colts, I imagine New Orleans is getting torn up tonight!

ftfy :lol:

In all seriousness this is the match up so many wanted to see. Should be a great game!

richmondesi

01-25-2010, 04:05 AM

I can't hate on any team or their coaching staff/management for making tough decisions. MLB teams often rest their best pitchers knowing full well they are likely to lose a game in doing so just to be prepared for more important games. The chess match of who to play and when happens in all sports on all levels. Jim Caldwell (and I'm sure the majority of the staff/team) felt it was a good idea to rest the starters the last couple of weeks of the season. So far it has paid off. I'd rather my team or any team lose a regular season game and win the big game than go 16-0 only to lose at the big dance.

GO COLTS!

What is with the totally specious "I'd rather win the Super Bowl than go 16-0" nonsense? This is NOT a zero sum scenario...

My answer to a similar comment in another thread...

Yes...

But there is a huge difference in baseball and football. No team will ever approach perfection in a 162 game baseball season. Even at that, you play every game in an attempt to win it.

If you can win the game, you do it. Did you see how smart Peyton Manning was today? Had the pocket collapsing around him, and he fell down rather than taking a hit early on... He's hardly ever injured because he takes care of himself.

Herm Edwards sums up my opinion better than I can express it, but what it boils down to is there will likely never be a chance to achieve a perfect season by those players again. Also, it's not a zero sum situation. We aren't talking about them winning the Super Bowl OR going 16-0 in the regular season. We are talking about a team having a chance to go down as the best team in the history of the NFL, and them saying to their fans (and football fans everywhere) and their players that it didn't matter what they wanted... They weren't even going to attempt to achieve greatness. There is a SB champion every year, there may never be a team go undefeated. The fact that they didn't try is unforgivable :thumbdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I

SRock

01-25-2010, 04:11 AM

What's to say they didn't try? They had a good lead when the decided to rest their starters in game 15. Perhaps they thought the second and third string players could hold onto that lead? Should they have thrown their starters back in to save the day? Maybe Coach Caldwell was more concerned with getting playing time for the back ups? While they are back up players they are still part of the team. Who knows what a person thinks or exactly what motivates them. What's done is done. All Colts fans (and AFC fans in general) can do now is support the team that is representing the AFC and hope for the best.

GEAUX COLTS!!!!

SRock

01-25-2010, 05:14 AM

You are right, we don't know what they think or what motivates them, but we were told in words and actions that they did not care about perfection, history, fans' & players' desire to see/achieve something amazing/legendary/immortal... I'm done with the Colts as an organization. Individual players, I like because 100% of them wanted to go for it.

I don't think there is a single TRUE Colts fan out there that is upset with their decision. I think the 16-0 Patriots are one of the biggest jokes in all of football and no one in the Colts organization wanted to risk that happening. Football isn't about perfection its about the Lombardi.

My final retort is this....

Every single baseball team in the modern era that failed to start their best player at every position for every game "did not care about perfection, history, fans' & players' desire to see/achieve something amazing/legendary/immortal... I'm done with" Major League Baseball.

You can't argue 162 games vs 80 vs 16 or even 5 by the logic you are spewing all over this forum, Facebook and who knows where else. Any team regardless of size or sport that has ever made a coaching decision to not start their absolute best players (at any position ever) has blatantly disrespected their fans and players and should be grossly disrespected at every opportunity for their horrific offense.

The Colts are the AFC Champions for the second time in four years, I can assure you the Colts owners, players, coaches and fans are as happy as they could possibly be short of winning the Super Bowl. While trouncing the Chicago Bears was great at XLI beating the Saints would be a much greater achievement.

SRock

01-25-2010, 05:25 AM

Your argument was that as professional athletes they are obligated to go for perfection. MLB = Professional. NHL = Professional. MLS = Professional. NBA = Professional.

Any organization employing paid athletes should ALWAY go for perfection. They owe it to the players and fans. Your words, not mine.

TheScalpel

01-25-2010, 05:33 AM

Manning is just toooo good right now, almost playing at a different level! Now that their defense has stepped up, will be a tall order to topple em!

SRock

01-25-2010, 05:47 AM

Manning is just toooo good right now, almost playing at a different level! Now that their defense has stepped up, will be a tall order to topple em!

I think the SB is going to be great. Not just because I'm a Colts fan but because it is the big dance. The SB is where the Champs are crowned. I think Brees is an admirable QB and clearly he is having a great season.

I'm looking forward to a great game. :thumbup1:

SRock

01-25-2010, 05:52 AM

:lol:

Geaux home! :lol: I don't think the Saints are going to get past the Vikings....

I missed this one! I thought for sure the old man was going to pull this one off. I give Bret mad props (though I didn't care for the retire/un-retire shenanigans) for his skill as an athlete. Despite 3 INT and 5 total turnovers they still almost pulled it off.

I tip my hat to all of the teams that made the playoffs and all who have continued on to the Conference Championships and ultimately the Super Bowl! :thumbup1:

ratcheer

01-25-2010, 05:57 AM

Despite 3 INT and 5 total turnovers they still almost pulled it off.

Yes, with 15 seconds to go, I felt sure the Vikings were going to set up the field goal and win the game. It was another amazing performance by Favre, but in the end, it was he that blew it. :huh:

Tim

SRock

01-25-2010, 06:04 AM

FreezerBurns

01-25-2010, 07:03 AM

Yes, with 15 seconds to go, I felt sure the Vikings were going to set up the field goal and win the game. It was another amazing performance by Favre, but in the end, it was he that blew it. :huh:

Tim

I couldn't believe it. I thought for sure they'd kick/make the field goal and we'd see Brett Favre singing "Pants on the Ground" in the locker room on the road to the SB.

Very true. Do you think Bret will be back next year? Still with the Vikings?

Yep.

professorchaos

01-25-2010, 07:31 AM

Ja, Favre threw the ball, Saints players made them interceptions. Favre doesn't deserve all the credit or all the blame. The Vikings were lucky the Saints weren't able to capitalize on the turnovers. Their defense kept them in the game.

paulboeck

01-25-2010, 08:26 AM

Yes, with 15 seconds to go, I felt sure the Vikings were going to set up the field goal and win the game. It was another amazing performance by Favre, but in the end, it was he that blew it. :huh:

Tim

As we Packer fans know, if you live by the Favre, you die by the Favre (see 2007 NFC champ. game). Now all the Vikings fans can begin their 5 month ordeal of putting up with his perennial retirement decision. Personally, last night was very satisfying :thumbup:.

SRock

01-26-2010, 01:13 AM

Yep.

I think he will as well. The retirement talk has already started.

Ja, Favre threw the ball, Saints players made them interceptions. Favre doesn't deserve all the credit or all the blame. The Vikings were lucky the Saints weren't able to capitalize on the turnovers. Their defense kept them in the game.

+1

As we Packer fans know, if you live by the Favre, you die by the Favre (see 2007 NFC champ. game). Now all the Vikings fans can begin their 5 month ordeal of putting up with his perennial retirement decision. Personally, last night was very satisfying :thumbup:.

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