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LX_Emergency
01-15-2007, 07:23 AM
And I'm applying coats of CA to the handle at this moment. As soon as it's done I'll take some pictures. The handle is quite large but I really like the look of the green stone that I've used for it.


So more to come.

dasein_geist
01-15-2007, 09:13 AM
Alex,

What is your assessment of the Blankity Blank heads?
What grade did get?
Knot size?
etc...?

LX_Emergency
01-15-2007, 09:56 AM
I got their best grade, Silvertip anyway. It's very nice. I got a 22mm knot. I haven't used it yet. But I'll probably do so tomorrow mornging even though the handle won't be done by then. I just really want to test it out.

dasein_geist
01-15-2007, 09:57 AM
Alex,

Be sure to let us know...

wa_bacchus
01-15-2007, 12:41 PM
Dying to know the quality of them. Please report here with pics and consider a genuine review in the review section.

Thanks!

LX_Emergency
01-15-2007, 12:58 PM
Once the brush is completely done (in a few days) I will. You have to keep in mind however that this is the first time I've ever spent any real money on a brush. My other brush is a Kent 50/50 (meaning 50%badger/50% boar). So I'll test the knot on it's own for the first time tomorrow and once it's on the handle a real review will come this way.

Gatorade
01-15-2007, 01:25 PM
Once the brush is completely done (in a few days) I will. You have to keep in mind however that this is the first time I've ever spent any real money on a brush. My other brush is a Kent 50/50 (meaning 50%badger/50% boar). So I'll test the knot on it's own for the first time tomorrow and once it's on the handle a real review will come this way.


LX I have a couple handles that I have been meaning to order plugs for. What did you use to secure the plug into the handle? Please post up the steps on how the actual adhesion of plug to handle go. I haven't ordered because I haven't figured out the right materials and technique yet.

Thanks!

mmp13
01-15-2007, 04:05 PM
Alex,

I cannot wait to see your brush! Very excited about it.


Charlie,

To mount the brush head into a handle I suggest that you use the longest setting epoxy that you can find. At the risk of giving away trade secret I use a 24 hour set golf club epoxy. The longer the set time in general the more stable and durrable the epoxy is. I am not speaking out of my arse here. That was actually my senior design project in college. I had a paper published in The Journal of Adhesion on my work. Epoxy (while not supposed to) can degrade over time especially when subjected to cyclical heating (ie Shaving, heating the brush and then cooling).

wa_bacchus
01-15-2007, 04:44 PM
....I use a 24 hour set golf club epoxy..

24hr SET or 24hr CURE?

[edit] Hmm... just found this, (http://www.golftools.net/proddetail.asp?prod=EPOX30MLSYG) and it just says 24hr....

4438 (http://www.golftools.net/proddetail.asp?prod=EPOX30MLSYG)

LX_Emergency
01-15-2007, 11:20 PM
LX I have a couple handles that I have been meaning to order plugs for. What did you use to secure the plug into the handle? Please post up the steps on how the actual adhesion of plug to handle go. I haven't ordered because I haven't figured out the right materials and technique yet.

Thanks!

It's not secured yet. The handle isn't finished quite yet. I'm still applying coats of CA in order to make the stone scratch proof. The stonetype I used is a very soft one. It's very much prone to scratching. So I'll be applying more CA over the next few days, then sanding and drillling a hole for the plug and THEN I'll be ready to set it.

mmp13
01-16-2007, 06:14 AM
WA,

24 Hour cure time (mistyped in the last one). I think that 24 hour cure time usually has a working time of 30 minutes to an hour. I guess that my post is just to say do not go and get 5 minute epoxy as it suffers more due to cyclical heating and is also more brittle.

I got mine from golfsmith and it has a working time of about an hour (great when you are doing a full set of clubs).

LX_Emergency
01-16-2007, 07:54 AM
Here we go...if this works.

It's still curing but I love it. A full review will follow later.

http://img54.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img54/8236/116896274536u.smil

jnich67
01-16-2007, 08:15 AM
Very cool LX. :thumbup1:

Jordan

wa_bacchus
01-16-2007, 08:55 AM
Here we go...if this works.

Cool... So, is that hand carved stone? I was picturing a lathe turned symmetrical item, but I really like the raw look of that.

Plus, my preference is for inline photos using the B&B system.... I personally hate image shack, and being forced to do a "flyby"... :smile:

-S

LX_Emergency
01-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Cool... So, is that hand carved stone? I was picturing a lathe turned symmetrical item, but I really like the raw look of that.

Plus, my preference is for inline photos using the B&B system.... I personally hate image shack, and being forced to do a "flyby"... :smile:

-S

Yes that is handcarved. Let me enlighten a little about the process.


I bought a piece of soapstone in a colour that I liked. It's a lightish green type of stone with whitish grains through it. I I'd done some stonecarving a year ago when I'd made a present for my (now) wife. Took me a month at the time during which I reduced an 18 kilo stone to a 3,5 kilo statue. I worked on it for at least an hour and a half with hammer, chisels, files, rasps and finally sandpaper.

Pretty much the same process was used for this piece of stone with one major difference. The stone was a lot harder. If you look at the pictures you'll see some blackish flecks in some places. Those are some kind of quarts pieces in the stone that were even harder. I almost destroyed on of my chisels on one of those piece and gave them up in exchange for a file. I gave it the right shape.

Now in all honesty I'd have liked it to be a little more round but since the stone and the quarts flecks were so hard to work with I'm accepting this size.

Once finished I applied a number of coats of CA (somewhere around 6-7) and then drilled the hole for the knot with a dremel.

Once the hole was in place I started sanding down the CA up to 2000 grit with water.

I glued the knot in with a 2 component epoxy and the result as you see it is my brush.

It's a 22mm knot made by http://www.blankity-blanks.com/brushes.htm that feels wonderfull and soft on the face (I used it without the handle this morning. They call the hair quality "Premium Grade Silver Tipped Badger Brush Heads" and although I don't have any high quality brushes to compare it to I really love the stuff. Now that the brush has been used it's "bloomed" very nicely. It looked a bit small to me before I used it but it doesn't now.

I love my brush.

Someone asked me when I'd be opening a store...well. I don't think I'll be opening the "store" anytime soon. This took me a LOT of time and I'd want to be compensated for that. That would make the brush a very expensive brush.

LX_Emergency
01-16-2007, 11:31 AM
And sorry about the photo's. I'll have a look at the B&B system next time.

wa_bacchus
01-16-2007, 12:44 PM
And sorry about the photo's. I'll have a look at the B&B system next time.

No problem. Next time, just click the paperclip icon to open a new window and upload a pic. Close that window and then click the paperclip again and choose the pic name. An image tag referencing your picture will be dropped into your message and you are ready to go.

-S

cooncatbob
01-16-2007, 03:35 PM
What's CA??
I made 2 bushes using Blankity blanks brush head, I used the premium and found them to be very soft. The only other brush I have to compare is a $35 Shavemac.
I used a 24 hr epoxy and coated both surfaces. I also wrapped the brush head with masking tape so I wouldn't get epoxy on the hair.
How long did David Borek keep you on the phone, he's quite a talker but if your a wood turner you can learn a lot from him. I've been using mine for about 6 months and they're still in perfect condition. If you don't like a really soft brush I would get the Select grade instead of the premium grade.

mmp13
01-16-2007, 07:45 PM
Alex,

That is absolutely amazing. I really like the looks of that.

How heavy is the soapstone? How is the feel of the brush in you hand?

Overall that is really cool.

Cooncatbob,

CA is Cyano Acrylate or super glue!

dasein_geist
01-16-2007, 10:10 PM
Here we go...if this works.

It's still curing but I love it. A full review will follow later.

http://img54.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img54/8236/116896274536u.smil

Alex,

Very nice work, indeed.

I, too, really like the "raw" look.
Out of curiosity, how is the weight?
(personally, i really like the substantial feel of a heavy brush)

Once again, you should be proud of your handy work...

Now, about those custom scales for my Feather AC...:tongue:

LX_Emergency
01-16-2007, 10:39 PM
It feels like....well....like a piece of stone.Because basically that's what it is. If you want to know how heavy that is just find yourself a stone that's about the size of your brush handle. You'll know what I mean. Basically if you want weight you can't go wrong with stone. I don't think there's anything heavier on the market in brushes.

As for those custom scales.....hmm....probably not. Stone is very brittle and making scales (thin pieces) might not be very possible.

I Might be pursuaded to make one more but It'll cost the person ordering. Because a lot of my free time goes into this (and I don't have a lot at the moment). A variete of colours would be possible. I used the greenish type (it's more green that can be seen in the pictures because of the flash) but there's also White, brown, Pink and maybe some more. If I do decide to make another one however I won't take more than 1 order at a time. Plus the next one might turn out a little bit more round because of the difference in hardness in other colours.

dasein_geist
01-17-2007, 07:59 AM
I was just kidding about the AC scales...

I keep toying with the idea of getting a lathe; while I have no doubt I would find it enjoyable, it'll have to wait until I'm done with school for the year.

I am, attracted to the idea of doing a brush, and maybe even scales for the AC, in some type of metal (SS, brass, etc.)...

Woodcrafter
01-17-2007, 09:11 AM
Do it!

Although I've never made pottery, I'll bet working with a lathe must be very much like turning pottery. You can start a piece of wood or stone or anything and let it take you where IT wants to go. The piece that you're making is already in the stone or wood. You just need to remove the material that isn't part of it. :wink:

A very creative outlet for me anyway. I find myself turning things in the shop just for the heck of it. It's a great feeling knowing that someone would actually like to have what you turn out.



Pete

Panamag8or
01-17-2007, 12:16 PM
Well, I guess I won't be posting much this weekend....I'll be looking for something cool to make a brush out of!

LX_Emergency
01-17-2007, 01:42 PM
Try soapstone. If you get a softer kind it's not all that difficult (unlike the kind I had) and as long as yuou put a nice coating on it it's won't scratch up and will stay all nice and shiny.

Navy Chief
01-17-2007, 05:52 PM
Now here is a brush idea that genuinely appeals to me as a avid woodturner. I have been looking in vain for brush blanks for days now (I am not soo good with google). I would rather make my own any day as opposed to buying something that is not unique.

Woodcrafter
01-17-2007, 05:55 PM
PM me chief and I'll set you up with a knot.

Pete