Undershirt or no?

[SRock]

OK gents what do you prefer to wear as an undershirt? In this particular instance I'm referring to under a shirt and tie.

We are required to wear a V-neck as the undershirt when in dress uniform (though many people wear an A-shirt anyway). If it can't be seen through the shirt I typically prefer an A-shirt, but if the shirt is sheer I'll wear a V-neck.

[luvmysuper]

I prefer a T shirt under a shirt and tie to prevent any possibility that hair or tattoos might show through the shirt.

[RichGem]

I really dislike undershirts for some reason, so "none" for me most of the time. If it's super hot or super cold, than an A-shirt/wifebeater or sleeveless t-shirt (crew neck). My shirts are all thick enough or dark enough that show through is not a problem.

[leighton]

I hate undershirts. I don't know why. I never wear them unless its cold outside. Can someone enlighten me as to the purpose of these things? I do understand how they can make a see through white dress shirt less see through, but that has a simpler solution imho. Is it to prevent sweat from ruining the dress shirt?

[davecmu]

Crew neck t-shirt every day, no matter what. Even under other t-shirts. Keeps the deodorant off my 'good' shirts.

[otherstar]

I live in the Houston area and I can't fathom going without a t-shirt at any time of the year. I actually find it cooler than going without because they hold the moisture in and that keeps the perspiration from ruining my good shirts and the moisture keeps me "cooler." YMMV

[thirdeye]

The only time I wear t-shirts is on their own for. I can't stand wearing them as undershirts unless it is really cold out. Then and only then do I wear A-shirt.

[Obsessed]

I wear a t-shirt under a shirt and tie. To me, the only reason to wear a v-neck is if you are gong to have your collar open a little and don't want the undershirt to show.

I frankly don't understand the a-shirt. For me, the main purpose of an undershirt is to prevent sweating through the outer shirt, and the a-shirt leaves the armpits exposed.

[SRock]

In civilian/dress clothes I like a very thin T-shirt. It cuts back on sweating through to the "good shirt" and does help with see through shirts. To me the A-shirt is an in-between, more for a little added warmth without making one too hot.


I wear a t-shirt under a shirt and tie. To me, the only reason to wear a v-neck is if you are gong to have your collar open a little and don't want the undershirt to show.

I frankly don't understand the a-shirt. For me, the main purpose of an undershirt is to prevent sweating through the outer shirt, and the a-shirt leaves the armpits exposed.

That's the very reason we are required to wear the V-neck because the short sleeve shirt may be worn without a tie (I prefer it w/out a tie) but an undershirt is still required. That and when you have all of the badges and ribbons pinned on your shirt it isn't comfortable against the skin without an undershirt.

[Kouros]

A t-shirt is a must under a dress shirt as it greatly extends its life.

[Master-Classter]

V-neck pretty often. Keeps me warm and cuts down on drycleaning..

Rant -
ANNOUNCEMENT - for the love of god and all that is good and pure in this world, please stop wearing crew neck t-shirts under your button ups (with the collars open)... it's soooo faux pas
-end rant

[OldSaw]

V-necks for me. Why have one type for a shirt with a tie and another for a shirt that is worn open? So I just keep the one style and wear them nearly every day.

[JonDC]

White (sometimes gray or black) t-shirt under almost everything. I'm in the habit from wearing them under dress shirts every day. And I do it for the reasons given above: keeps the shirts nicer longer (to keep sweat and deoderant stains off them) and keeps the shirt from being see-through (I wear white or light blue dress shirts).

[WhosYerBob]

A t-shirt is a must under a dress shirt as it greatly extends its life.
Then I must need a T-shirt that goes past my chin, as my pelt and stubble shred my shirts after 15 to 20 wearings. Seriously. I've given up wearing nice clothes because my body hair destroys them so quickly.

My wife bought a spool of Kevlar fiber a number of years ago and knitted a liner into the throat area of a nice cotton sweater that was quickly being chewed up. But my stubble even shredded the Kevlar, though it did slow down the rate of destruction.

I don't wear T-shirts under other shirts because I roast in them, but I do wear them by themselves frequently.

[Luc]

T-Shirts, summer or winter. For some unknown reasons, I'm unable to wear a shirt alone. I need something under. T-shirt hide tattoos also...

[thunderball]

I never used to wear an undershirt but now I always do if I'm wearing a dress shirt. If I don't you can see the 'darkness' that is my chest hair...not too cool at work. A good undershirt actually keeps me cool in the summer and warm in the winter. :thumbup1:

[Biffo]

A V neck T Shirt, white if under a dress shirt, navy or black if under my "work" shirts

[Sullybob]

I picked T-Shirt because that is what I have, but I have wanted to try an A-Shirt for a while now.

[mmack66]

crew neck t-shirt every day, no matter what.

+1

[mankini]

Depends on the weather.
In colder weather I bring out the crew/V neck T's under my dress shirts.
Summer time - nope

[Klarion]

V-neck tee. In sports fabrics though, like Under Armour shirts. I don't worry about the cold, so something that helps me keep cool and dry is best.

[gaseousclay]

t-shirt for me, if only to keep the pit stains from ruining my dress shirt. i'm going to switch to v-neck soon enough because as master classter mentioned, an exposed crew neck under a dress shirt just isn't cutting it

[cfriend]

I misread the question. Under a shirt and tie I prefer a v-neck.

[StylinLA]

They are indeed quite proper, and will extend the life of the shirt I'm sure.

If you wear a scent, it's also a great place to impart a bit of frag since cloth holds many scents for more longevity.

But I just can't wear them. Makes me too warm.

[82R100]

I hate undershirts. I don't know why. I never wear them unless its cold outside. Can someone enlighten me as to the purpose of these things? I do understand how they can make a see through white dress shirt less see through, but that has a simpler solution imho. Is it to prevent sweat from ruining the dress shirt?

I seem to recall from my childhood being able to wear an outer shirt two days in a row if I changed the T-shirt underneath daily.

- Chris

[flylot]

What otherstar said!

[J.B. Books]

I agree. This is my approach as well.

[JdB]

No dress-shirt without a white cotton (normal- or V) shirt underneath for me! (Preferably ironed HOT).

When going out, I never wear undershirts. They are for office only!

[The Knize]

A-shirt/beater to avoid the see through problem. Sometimes, maye even fairly often, wear a t-shirt with crew neck.

Used to really hate undershirts of any kind. Just seemed like a useless, constricting layer. But dress shirts really do not look right without them I have concluded and I have a lot of hair that tends to show through. Am A Shirt seems like a comfortable compromise. Not very restricting. I do not seem to tend to sweat through my shirt anyway.

[VR6ofpain]

I frankly don't understand the a-shirt. For me, the main purpose of an undershirt is to prevent sweating through the outer shirt, and the a-shirt leaves the armpits exposed.
I have always wondered this myself.

[pal]

No T-shirt for me, except maybe to sleep in.

[gaseousclay]

just picked up a 5-pk of v-necks at Target. I feel like B&B really encourages me to shop sometimes

[Dennard]

Under a shirt and tie I go with a t-shirt without exception. As already mentioned, my reasons are that it helps keep sweat next to my body instead of on my outer shirt, and I think it makes outer shirts look better (it makes white shirts look whiter, for example). I also enjoy playing with different pairings of colors of my undershirt and outer shirt.

[Obsessed]

jI feel like B&B really encourages me to shop sometimes

You're just now figuring this out? :lol:

[gaseousclay]

You're just now figuring this out? :lol:

i've known it for awhile, the key is to resist temptation. unfortunately, there are so many things I want and I have to evenly balance my needs versus wants. now that my RAD is over I've moved into other things to obsess about :thumbup:

[The Knize]

Under a shirt and tie I go with a t-shirt without exception. As already mentioned, my reasons are that it helps keep sweat next to my body instead of on my outer shirt, and I think it makes outer shirts look better (it makes white shirts look whiter, for example). I also enjoy playing with different pairings of colors of my undershirt and outer shirt.

Seems like I used to see grey and or even light blue undershirts for sale and i always wondered what the idea was. In particular whether they were supposed to be better for, say, oxford blue or striped dress shirts.

What are your experiments and what to they tell you.

I would say I do not sweat much, but that is not true! I find that when I am really sweating though, it is the back neck that is wet and it is my collar that gets damp, not my pits, for some reason.

[persco]

just picked up a 5-pk of v-necks at Target. I feel like B&B really encourages me to shop sometimes

"Sometimes"...?

[Pete]

T-shirt with a shirt & tie for the reason most wear them - to preserve the life of their dress shirts and to keep perspiration from staining light-colored shirts, or showing through dark-colored shirts.

Oddly, I only wear an A-shirt when I am attending an event where my jacket will be on for the majority of the time. Sort of contradicts my aforementioned reasons for wearing a T-shirt, but I find myself cooler and more comfortable while wearing an A-shirt under my jacket.

[Mr. O]

Is it to prevent sweat from ruining the dress shirt?

Yes. This is why I wear a t-shirt under every shirt except summer shirts.

[AACJ]

I always wear a T-shirt, under both dress shirts and golf shirts I wear at work. As someone from Houston mentioned earlier, even in the summer, a T-shirt helps keep me cooler. Since I grew up in Houston I started wearing them there, now that I am in a cooler climate of VA, it just feels natural to do it now. Plus it helps keep my good shirts cleaner.

[DSB]

V-neck. I hate it when a crew neck creeps up and pokes out the top of a dress shirt. I also don't like A-shirts -- I think they look too much like a "bro" or "manzier" under a thin dress shirt.

[john.crissman]

T-Shirts for me, about 90% of the time.

[Master-Classter]

t-shirt for me, if only to keep the pit stains from ruining my dress shirt. i'm going to switch to v-neck soon enough because as master classter mentioned, an exposed crew neck under a dress shirt just isn't cutting it

I just see it all the time and I feel like wearing a crewneck with an open collared button up is "amateur", like a 'first day on the job' look. Experiment a little with brands and colors. I find places like the GAP, Banana Republic, Club Monaco, H&M, etc have simple basic v-necks for $10-15 (they go even lower on sale) and I buy a lot of the whites, with a few black, gray, blue beige, etc and layer a lot.


Seems like I used to see grey and or even light blue undershirts for sale and i always wondered what the idea was. In particular whether they were supposed to be better for, say, oxford blue or striped dress shirts.
What are your experiments and what to they tell you.
Interesting question, I would imagine that this works. Many people (StyleForum) have said that the solution to not having a bright white t-shirt show up under button ups, or even the best color underwear to wear with white linen pants (don’t ask how this came up) is GREY, or a beige/nude color, sort of just off white like an eggshell…


I would say I do not sweat much, but that is not true! I find that when I am really sweating though, it is the back neck that is wet and it is my collar that gets damp, not my pits, for some reason.
Try rubbing the back of your neck with a bit of toner like Thayers or rubbing alcohol during your after-shave routine, I’ve heard it will get rid of a lot of oil that tends to stain the shirt collars.


V-neck. I hate it when a crew neck creeps up and pokes out the top of a dress shirt. I also don't like A-shirts -- I think they look too much like a "bro" or "manzier" under a thin dress shirt.
+1, it really screams “unrefined”… As someone said, I also don’t think it’s as effective as a full undershirt. I guess you get chest hair coverage, but no armpit sweat absorption…?

[The Knize]

<Interesting question, I would imagine that this works. Many people (StyleForum) have said that the solution to not having a bright white t-shirt show up under button ups, or even the best color underwear to wear with white linen pants (don’t ask how this came up) is GREY, or a beige/nude color, sort of just off white like an eggshell…>

interesting, I believe it, and nothing wrong with white linen, say when one is on the yacht in Nice!

< it really screams “unrefined”… As someone said, I also don’t think it’s as effective as a full undershirt. I guess you get chest hair coverage, but no armpit sweat absorption…? >

It might seem unrefined to some, but my mentor, who was pretty old school when it came to clothes, and very high-end and refined, wore nothing but A Shirts. I think it is a very classic look, although not everyone may recognize it as such. And again, for me, I do not get much arm pit sweat, but I do have a lot of chest hair. A full tee just seems restrictive to me around the arm holes. Not terrible, but between a suit coat, a regular shirt, and a T, it is a lot for me.

<that is a good tip and you are right that is where I get stains on my good shirts, never on the arm pits.

[Dennard]

Well, I haven't done a whole lot of experimenting yet. But I think, for instance that grey goes with just about any shirt. And by the way, I stick with white for dress shirts; my play with different color combinations I save for casual dress.



Seems like I used to see grey and or even light blue undershirts for sale and i always wondered what the idea was. In particular whether they were supposed to be better for, say, oxford blue or striped dress shirts.

What are your experiments and what to they tell you.

I would say I do not sweat much, but that is not true! I find that when I am really sweating though, it is the back neck that is wet and it is my collar that gets damp, not my pits, for some reason.

[Dandaman]

I actually like the wife beater but it always shrinks lengthwise to where it won't stay tucked in. Someone needs to make these things really long, or unshrinkable.

[TstebinsB]

I can't fathom not wearing an undershirt. I wear both V-neck and crew.

[Kouros]

I actually like the wife beater but it always shrinks lengthwise to where it won't stay tucked in. Someone needs to make these things really long, or unshrinkable.

Calvin Klein wifebeaters are extra long and do not shrink.

[MAK]

none for me

[icon]

V-neck thin undershirts, it really extends shirt's lifetime and avoid the wet sticky shirt effect on summer (I can't bear this).


Wifebeater :

An A formed white, tight, T-Shirt normally produced for men but also worn by women, intended for wear under shirts. Its reputation comes from those wearing the shirts while engaged in domestic violence.

His father was wearing a wifebeater under his favorie shirt.

Online Urban Dictionnary.

I had a doubt, now I'm sure. :lol::lol::lol:
My vocabulary is growing.

[letsdisinfect]

I wear an undershirt daily to keep my tattoo from poking out of my collar

[moggio]

Wife beater under a white t-shirt, followed by a collared Oxford.

Always.:thumbup1:

[Prince]

I can't fathom not wearing an undershirt. I wear both V-neck and crew.

same here. Crew when wearing a tie, and a v-neck for no tie.

[BrianL]

Always wear a beater in the summer and a V in the winter.

[Dennis]

I don't have to wear a tie, so a V-neck undershirt everyday for me. Don't do the crew neck and no tie with a casual button shirt, please. The undershirt saves my clothes from sweat and deoderant stains, if any - I would rather buy very inexpensive undershirts than new dress shirts.

[galopede]

I get very confused with the term Wife Beater, as here in Britain, Wife Beater is the nickname of the Belgian Stella Artois lager because of its propensity for causing violence in the British male! (I drink proper Real Ale!)

The undershirt you call the YB we call a vest, as opposed to a tee shirt.

Gareth

[SpyvSpy]

T-shirt. If I don't wear one people see all my tats.

[Echo]

V-neck pretty often. Keeps me warm and cuts down on drycleaning..

Rant -
ANNOUNCEMENT - for the love of god and all that is good and pure in this world, please stop wearing crew neck t-shirts under your button ups (with the collars open)... it's soooo faux pas
-end rant

Haha Agreed.

[Echo]

Hey guys, I have a proposed idea considering we are all classy gentlemen of B&B:

Let's try to break the convention of associating the A-shirt with domestic abuse by not using the term "wife beater." I know the term is common slang, but I personally fell that it's rather tasteless and I'm sure women would appreciate it. Besides, we gotta start somewhere and what better place than B&B?

[BrianL]

I will agree and say that I wear the A shirt in summer and a V neck in the winter.

[GFlanagan3]

Then I must need a T-shirt that goes past my chin, as my pelt and stubble shred my shirts after 15 to 20 wearings. Seriously. I've given up wearing nice clothes because my body hair destroys them so quickly.

My wife bought a spool of Kevlar fiber a number of years ago and knitted a liner into the throat area of a nice cotton sweater that was quickly being chewed up. But my stubble even shredded the Kevlar, though it did slow down the rate of destruction.

I don't wear T-shirts under other shirts because I roast in them, but I do wear them by themselves frequently.

YIKES:huh:

[The Knize]

I get very confused with the term Wife Beater, as here in Britain, Wife Beater is the nickname of the Belgian Stella Artois lager because of its propensity for causing violence in the British male! (I drink proper Real Ale!)

The undershirt you call the YB we call a vest, as opposed to a tee shirt.

Gareth

I had heard of Stella being called that in Britain. Amazing. Stella is being marketed in the States as an upscale imported lager. I assume it cheap in Britain?? All in perception, I guess.

What I remember, at least in Scotland, were cheap Russian lagers on tap. I do not remember seeing Stella anywhere.

[The Knize]

Wife beater under a white t-shirt, followed by a collared Oxford.

Always.:thumbup1:

Just curious, why the three layers? What does the beater (sorry Echo it is just too much fun to write "beater," I will try not to use both words) for you that the T is not doing?

[The Knize]

Then I must need a T-shirt that goes past my chin, as my pelt and stubble shred my shirts after 15 to 20 wearings. Seriously. I've given up wearing nice clothes because my body hair destroys them so quickly.

My wife bought a spool of Kevlar fiber a number of years ago and knitted a liner into the throat area of a nice cotton sweater that was quickly being chewed up. But my stubble even shredded the Kevlar, though it did slow down the rate of destruction.

I don't wear T-shirts under other shirts because I roast in them, but I do wear them by themselves frequently.

Wow, and I thought I was hairy! I take it "manscaping" makes things all the worse by making for more stubble.

Man that is somehow frigging impressive!

[jlanger]

V-neck pretty often. Keeps me warm and cuts down on drycleaning..

Rant -
ANNOUNCEMENT - for the love of god and all that is good and pure in this world, please stop wearing crew neck t-shirts under your button ups (with the collars open)... it's soooo faux pas
-end rant

lol honestly I'm doing everyone a favor when I wear a T shirt underneath my button ups! Don't want all the non hairy guys out there to get jealous now would I?

Actually I usually prefer sleeveless T shirts, especially in the summer. I get a little warm and the sleeveless T is nice to wear under polos. Now if the Nike Dri-fit shirts I like only came with a white swoosh!

[Dandaman]

Calvin Klein wifebeaters are extra long and do not shrink.

Thanks, I've taken note.

[Master-Classter]

PS - I hope I didn't come off as a complete ass earlier. I'm just pretty zealous about the whole crewneck t under a button up shirt thing... drives me crazy.
Essentially, it's your underwear sticking out. It's like seen a visible pantyline on a girl... :blushing:

I think the A Shirt thing might just be cultural. With no disrespect to anyone's mentors (:wink:), I've always thought of it as a rather "low class" sort of thing.

[icon]

PS - I hope I didn't come off as a complete ass earlier. I'm just pretty zealous about the whole crewneck t under a button up shirt thing... drives me crazy.
Essentially, it's your underwear sticking out. It's like seen a visible pantyline on a girl... :blushing:

I think the A Shirt thing might just be cultural. With no disrespect to anyone's mentors (:wink:), I've always thought of it as a rather "low class" sort of thing.

I totally agree,
Fist time I heard "wife beater", I was surprised and I hesitate laughing, because it's a very sad association.
This A shirt was first created in 18XX for warehousemens, it keeps arms frees and lower back warm. It's association with working class is logical.
It also became the regular military underwear on first war on "Poilus" French soldiers.

Here we call this shirt "Marcel", like the brandname of it's creator.

My favourite wearer :
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/bruce_lee.jpg

[galopede]

I had heard of Stella being called that in Britain. Amazing. Stella is being marketed in the States as an upscale imported lager. I assume it cheap in Britain?? All in perception, I guess.

What I remember, at least in Scotland, were cheap Russian lagers on tap. I do not remember seeing Stella anywhere.

Stella is marketed as expensive but seems to be mostly drunk by the local yobs! I would think that it's common on tap all over England and Wales, don't know about Scotland as I've not been there for a few years.

Never seen Russian lagers around my part of the world. Plenty of bottled and occasionally draught Polish and Czech lagers though.

I probably drink about one pint of lager a year. I'm a Real Ale fan. Proper beer for proper blokes!

[Monkeydad]

I never used to wear an undershirt but now I always do if I'm wearing a dress shirt. If I don't you can see the 'darkness' that is my chest hair...not too cool at work. A good undershirt actually keeps me cool in the summer and warm in the winter. :thumbup1:

Same here, but I only wear them with white dress shirts.

[LordTyranus]

my 2 cents,

wearing something under a "shirt and tie" is a heresy :eek:

[razorrookie]

So, I'm really trying to figure this out:

What is the difference between an "a-shirt" and a "wife beater"... I know what I've grown up thinking a wife beater is but from what I can tell online, it may be the same thing as an a-shirt....

Side by side image comparison anyone?

[The Knize]

"a-shirt" = "wife beater," as far as I know

happy to have someone straighten me out if I am wrong

<I think the A Shirt thing might just be cultural. With no disrespect to anyone's mentors (), I've always thought of it as a rather "low class" sort of thing.>

No disrespect taken, of course, and I did not mean that any great credibility should be given because he was my "mentor." That actually take away from his credibility!

All I meant by "mentor" was that I knew him very well. (Thinking about it, I do not know that I really know what kind of underwear shirt, if any, most of the men around me wear!)

I hear what you are saying about culture and class, and I might have something like that myself at one time, and who knows, maybe things have evolved that way to today. But I really think the culture I am talking about is high-end business executive/government official from say the 50s and 60s, and the "class" distinctly long estabished upper middle. I just do not think someone that consistently wore Oxxford suits, McAffee shoes, Hermes ties, and some brand or other of bespoke Brit shirts with double-cuffs, would choose to consistently wear a WB underneath just for the irony of the reference to an entirely different kind of dress!

[SRock]

YIKES:huh:

+1


I think the A Shirt thing might just be cultural. With no disrespect to anyone's mentors (:wink:), I've always thought of it as a rather "low class" sort of thing.

I'd agree that it is very low rent when worn as an outer garment (perhaps outside of a manual labor job site). That said, when it is worn as intended (as an undershirt) I don't think it says anything about the gentlemen wearing it.


I totally agree,
Fist time I heard "wife beater", I was surprised and I hesitate laughing, because it's a very sad association.
This A shirt was first created in 18XX for warehousemens, it keeps arms frees and lower back warm. It's association with working class is logical.
It also became the regular military underwear on first war on "Poilus" French soldiers.

Here we call this shirt "Marcel", like the brandname of it's creator.

My favourite wearer :
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/bruce_lee.jpg

Way to work Bruce Lee into the thread! :thumbup1:


So, I'm really trying to figure this out:

What is the difference between an "a-shirt" and a "wife beater"... I know what I've grown up thinking a wife beater is but from what I can tell online, it may be the same thing as an a-shirt....

Side by side image comparison anyone?

Same thing although I'd add this. A man who wears one properly as an undershirt probably knows it as an A-shirt while the thug who wears it as an outer garment probably refers to it as a wife beater.


"a-shirt" = "wife beater," as far as I know

happy to have someone straighten me out if I am wrong

<I think the A Shirt thing might just be cultural. With no disrespect to anyone's mentors (), I've always thought of it as a rather "low class" sort of thing.>

No disrespect taken, of course, and I did not mean that any great credibility should be given because he was my "mentor." That actually take away from his credibility!

All I meant by "mentor" was that I knew him very well. (Thinking about it, I do not know that I really know what kind of underwear shirt, if any, most of the men around me wear!)

I hear what you are saying about culture and class, and I might have something like that myself at one time, and who knows, maybe things have evolved that way to today. But I really think the culture I am talking about is high-end business executive/government official from say the 50s and 60s, and the "class" distinctly long estabished upper middle. I just do not think someone that consistently wore Oxxford suits, McAffee shoes, Hermes ties, and some brand or other of bespoke Brit shirts with double-cuffs, would choose to consistently wear a WB underneath just for the irony of the reference to an entirely different kind of dress!

I couldn't disagree more. I know countless professionals who wear them under the finest clothes. Like I said before its the individual who wears it as an outer garment that got this one all wrong.

[The Knize]

+1


I couldn't disagree more. I know countless professionals who wear them under the finest clothes. Like I said before its the individual who wears it as an outer garment that got this one all wrong.

Sorry, I could have written what I wrote a lot more clearly than I did. SlagleRock/Rob/Mr. Moderator: you and I are on exactly the same page.

What I meant was that it was a perfectly acceptable--if not de riguer-- undergarment because the guy I was thinking of would not have been wearing if it were not. Actually, as I think about it, I knew where he bought his clothes, including underwear shirts, and those places would not have been selling that style of underwear shirt if it were at all a questionable for the "well-established gentleman" to be wearing.

Does anyone else remember expensive men's clothing stores where the sales people would be extremely snooty, opinionated, formal, and dismissive, and kind of treated you with disdain if you asked the wrong question or disagreed with them in anyway, much less if you suggested that they were way overpriced, etc.? Do they still have such stores? I can't think of the last time I ran into the that kind of style.

Kind of like the old French resturants, where you got "service without a smile!"

I suppose that J Press is a little that way these days. But with J Press it is really kind of different. The pitich at J Press is not so much "we sell quality stuff at high prices and if you had any taste you would do best to buy what we pick out for you while being very happy to pay the price we charge," as "J Press sells a certain style of very traditional clothing of excellent quality for a certain price. We are very comfortable in who we are and what we do. Either you like who we are or you don't."

[Kouros]

They say that a sure sign of economic recovery is when men's underwear sales increase.

[Wendy]

I always send my hubby back for an undershirt to cover his tattoo on his back in case jacket is off.

[SRock]

Sorry, I could have written what I wrote a lot more clearly than I did. SlagleRock/Rob/Mr. Moderator: you and I are on exactly the same page...

Ah, I see. :cool:

[D.Irving79]

They are indeed quite proper, and will extend the life of the shirt I'm sure.

that was their original purpose, but thats going back over 150 years to when all that was available was the long union suit, as men tended to wear the same shirt for DAYS in a row (this was also the reasoning for detachable collars and/or cuffs). by the turn of the century shorter sleeve union suits were popular from brands like musingwear, seegull, eagle, etc, and/or boxer shorts and the 3 button under shirt by the time WWI was over. the wifebeater if i recall is tecnhically called an A shirt, or in england a singlet or vest, and started taking off in the 1920s when things unstiffened for the most part. IMO WW2 was the death of union suits and REAL undershirts. the things they sell now are crap :001_smile

[Monkeydad]

Same here, but I only wear them with white dress shirts.

Sweaters also, but that's typically a t-shirt with a collar that won't look bad.

Wearing a sweater today for the first time since last winter...forgot about those.

Snow in the forecast for tomorrow. :glare:

[avsmusic1]

I tend to wear a crew neck T all the time...... from shower to shower basically

[Abdiel]

Unless I am wearing a t-shirt of some sort, I wear an undershirt with everything else.

As to wife beater, I know far more people who will know exactly what I am talking about if I say wife beater, A Shirt would have them returning a blank stare.

[avsmusic1]

^^ +1

I didn't know what an A-shirt was but i suppose it's just another thing I learned here!

[Jack-in-the-Green]

O.K. This may be a stupid question, but what's the difference between an A-Shirt and a Wife Beater. I thought they were the same thing? :001_huh: Never mind. I now see it's been covered. :blush:

And for the record - usually a T-shirt, but sometimes an A-shirt or a muscle shirt in the summer.

[Kevan]

I wear t-shirts under cardigans or button-up shirts that I wear open in the winter. But I can't wear them otherwise. They tend to make me hot or uncomfortable.

[JPM]

I use to wear a t-shirt under my shirt and tie, but it always felt too bulky. I stopped wearing one a few years ago.