High End Briefcase Comparo Solo, Saddleback, HLASKA and Mitchell Leather- Part 1 of 3

[joel]

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A belated kick-off of the haberdashery...

There are a few indisputable belongings gentlemen around the globe covet. Amongst the exclusive laundry list of fine items reside automobiles, timepieces and leather goods but at the root of all these lavish items lies the derivation of our interest – the craftsman. While the look, feel and design of a piece may catch the eye, it’s the tremendous skill, attention to detail and relentless pursuit of perfection a craftsman has bestowed upon an item, which really commandeer our interest. Simply put - gentlemen are naturally drawn to items, which exude impeccable quality as it stands as a tribute to the remarkable skill and dedication of our fellow man.

For most men, a briefcase is not merely a luxury, but a necessity. With such a heavily used item, holding our most important business items, the question must be begged – is it worth buying the best? Sure, for many a $300-400 briefcase may sound uncanny, and a $1,000+ case purely absurd, but if a $400 briefcase lasts 10X longer than a $100 briefcase, surely it’s both a sound fiscal and emotional decision, yes? Like many gentlemen – I believe in the old adage “Buy quality - cry once” – however I also develop bonds to well made, quality items and appreciate their distressed and unique look as they age, like the butterscotch color of a well used meerschaum pipe. As the laptop has become a fixture in the world of business – the lowly laptop case has become an acceptable replacement for a gentleman’s briefcase – but like many here at badger and blade, I like to be a little different and I like to have things with more style, history and character.

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With this in mind – I took it upon myself to set out and find the ultimate luxury leather briefcases for men in varying price ranges/styles and report back in three stages. 1 – the initial report 2 – thoughts/opinions after 6 months of use and 3 – how they’re holding up after a year or so of typical use.

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Without further ado, let me introduce the four subjects of this piece – introduced from least expensive, on up.

#1 – Solo Classic MSRP $149.99

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This is without question the “mainstream” bag of the group. Not just due to its incredible value, but also for its tremendous functionality. Akin to a Swiss Army Knife, this is more of a tool than a luxury briefcase and I mean that as a compliment. The amount of pockets in/on this case, especially with its slim and trim profile is astounding. Each pocket serves a specific and well thought out purpose – from housing cell phones, to documents, to sensitive electronic equipment in need of padding (laptop, GPS, etc) to pen slots, this bag has you covered.

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Loaded up with a 15.4" Lenovo W500...
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Particularly intriguing are the hidden clasps/closures, which give the appearance of more traditional and stylish closure methods, yet allowing quick one-handed deployment. While the bag maintains a Kate Moss like profile, its accordion fan design allows for gluttonous expansion - giving you tremendous flexibility.

Front straps hiding quick-release latches...
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Quick release latches...
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Back of the bag - with leather tabs to disengage the slick magnetic clasps...
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Pockets on the back residing under magnetic clasps...
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As the only bag in the group hailing from China (adorned in Columbian leather), it offers a tremendous value for the gentleman seeking a stylish leather briefcase at a meager price – however due to its price, it doesn’t boast some of the features its more expensive competitors tout, such as fully tanned, full grain leather, leather shoulder straps, durable leather lining, etc.

Close up of leather grain...
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It will be interesting to see how this bag holds up over the next year. Cost aside, this is a surprisingly nice, light, good-looking bag.

#2 – Saddleback Leather – MSRP $555

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The fact that this bag has not made an appearance in every Indiana Jones movie serves as a red alert that their props department needs to be immediately fired and replaced. Not that you need to be an adventurer to own this bag – but the entire auspices of its design is “to the extreme.” Not only can you smell its rich, thick leather before the UPS courier makes it out of their truck, but one heft of this bag sporting nearly 8lbs of hide and it immediately strikes you – this isn’t your standard bag. Sure, it’ll fit your laptop, important documents, your lunch, a few pens/pencils and a small dog or two – but if needed, in about 30 seconds using a sturdy O ring residing on the back, and it’s unique shoulder strap (with 2 pads) it can be converted into a backpack. Eat too much at lunch? No worries, you can use one of the extra front straps as a belt, pending you have a 34-36 inch waist.

The sturdy o-ring in the top/center is what allows the backpack conversion....
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A handle for the incredible hulk....
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Sure, it’s at home merely trekking to your office and back and it will be the envy of your peers at the next board meeting, but frankly – that’s not what this briefcase is about. It’s big, it’s bold and it’s meant to take one hell of a beating – and with its 100 year warranty the fine folks at Saddleback tout its ability to outlive its owner.

A tremendous amount of space.....
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This beauty is HUGE, and due to the very heavy/stiff leather, it pretty much stays that wide (meaning it doesn't collapse into a thinner profile when not full). Maybe after 20 years of hard use, the leather will begin to soften up :lol: ....
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Loaded up with a 15.4" Lenovo W500, my lunch and quite a laundry list of small items - still allowing enough additional room to fit a small dog....
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Sport this bag and expect a lot of attention… folks will ask you pretty regularly “Who makes that?” – “Where can I get one of those?” and so on. With the Saddleback case, you’re paying for a HECK of a lot of leather, with handsome leather (or pigskin) lining that’ll last a long, long time. You’re also paying for a completely handmade product (Mexico) comprised of thick American hides (again, there is REALLY a lot of leather here).

Sturdy pigskin lining...
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Bulletproof stitched AND riveted construction...
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The quality is excellent, but upon close inspection you can tell this is handmade product as stitches aren’t perfectly aligned and there are small little tidbits of character here and there. Don’t take this the wrong way though – the average joe wouldn’t be able to tell at all – and the folks making these briefcases are “poached” master leatherworkers previously from Dooney & Burke and other ultra-premo brands. $555 doesn’t sound cheap – but for what it is, it’s a bargain. Many of Saddlebacks competitors are more than twice the cost and still don’t a product as high a quality bag.

Imperfect alignment of stitching shows a handmade touch...
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Damn good stitching job - not THE prettiest/cleanest, but 9.5 out of 10, especially due to the leather being so thick/sturdy and the thick industrial thread....
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To put the cost/quality ratio of a Saddleback in perspective, several other firms were invited to participate in this comparison – very prestigious, well known British companies as well as several well known, ultra-high end firms in the U.S. – and they agreed to participate. Once they found out saddleback was one of the briefcases their craftsmanship would be compared to, they either magically disappeared, or in one instance, outright refused to have their products QUALITY (not design, look, etc) compared to saddleback.

Close-up of the leather...
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If you’re thinking “Why wasn’t XYZ brand part of this?”– there’s a 90% chance it’s because they didn’t want to go up against Saddleback and that my good friends, speaks for itself.

#3 – HLASKA Evergreen – MSRP - $795

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The interesting thing about this briefcase is just how different it is. It doesn’t take more than a few moments inspecting this bag to come to the hypothesis it wasn’t made by a fashion designer… or the type of person that would normally make a luxury case. Well, you’d be right because an engineer designed it. Instead of a design based on fashion – it’s clearly based on structure with a lot of thought put into subtle details.

Just barely swallowing a 15.4" Lenovo W500 - with it being a little tricky to get the zippered teeth around the square corners of the laptop - but the black on black is mighty slick looking...
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The zippered closure looks great against the black case...
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It sticks out from the crowd, with the incredibly unique wood grain leather, to the custom hardware based on architectural designs – it quietly screams, “I’m different” in an apple (the computer/tech company not the fruit) like manner. I can’t explain enough, just how nice their custom hardware is – even though I had intended to not compare the bags in the first part of this series, without question their hardware shames the rest. The hardware gorgeous, unique, easy to use/operate and it’s built to last.

Custom rivets all aligned/riveted in the same direction....
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Razor sharp looking clasps for the shoulder strap...
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Aluminum feet to protect the Italian leather on the bottom of the case from rough surfaces...
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It’s bold trendsetting fashion won’t mesh well for everyone, but for those with a lot of style and enjoy exclusivity – you can’t find a better match, especially being that they’re handmade in Canada and individually serial numbered with merely 50 examples of each of the three colors.

Serial #48 of 50....
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This case is more at home wrapped around the slinky profile of a 15.4" macbook pro, the combo is simply stunning...
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With minimal pockets and a lightweight design with only one major compartment boasting a100% cotton Kvadrat European fabric lining, this is more of a document case than a briefcase, but despite its lack of compartments, it’s actually quite usable, thanks to the designers functionality/engineering focus.

Close-up of the interiors liner...
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Not the best stitching on the interior....
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Small little niggles - like the leather not being dyed through and through - with some areas visibly sticking out with the sharp contrasting orange of un-dyed leather against jet black...
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While we’re back on the topic of engineering – the designers of this bag actually created the wood grain patterns embossed on the bags from actual pieces of wood – further adding to it’s uniqueness.

Woodgrain pattern...
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Close-up of the leather...
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There are a lot of briefcases out there… but only one HLASKA Evergreen.

#4 – Mitchell Leather Classic Briefcase – MSRP - $980 to $1180

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When your hand glides around this bags handle as you scoop it up mid-stride you can’t help but be taken with how natural this bag feels in hand. Everything about this bag is as it should be, like a lifelong friend had designed it for your specific needs. How it sits on your shoulder, its perfect balance in hand; the number of pockets – not too many which would force them to be too small, yet not too few as to be a one trick pony, its “just right” size, everything about this bag is just seamless and perfect. Jerry Mitchell’s (the late founder of Mitchell Leather) lifetime obsession with creating the ultimate briefcase has been an indisputable success.

Spacious three compartment interior - with an "accordion" design to expand as needed...
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Handy, perfectly sized front pockets residing under the front cover/flap...
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Things you don’t typically consider in a briefcase stand out like a Mary-Kay Pink Cadillac at a biker rally. The weight distribution and balance of a briefcase with different weights/loads? Who would consider designing a bag around this? What’s the value? Well I thought it was a little silly until I badly dislocated my knee and found with other briefcases loaded up, I couldn’t get halfway across the house without them slipping off my shoulder or twisting out of my hand and pummeling one of my dogs who constantly shadow me. With the Mitchell? Even with a bum immobilized leg, the fully loaded Mitchell is almost unnoticeable when strewn across my shoulder… it feels like an extension of my body. It’s difficult to explain just how well designed every detail of this bag is – but a few pictures and a review on how these bags are created does the best job at painting the picture.

Center compartment has a spacer secured via velcro which you can move/arrange to fit multiple sizes of laptops and hold your valuable electronics tightly to prevent it's movement and aid in proper balance...
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Easily holds a 15.4" Lenovo W500 while keeping the bag slim/trim, but still allowing plenty of accordion expansion if additional items need to be carried...
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Every stitch on this bag is perfect. I don’t know how to quite describe it, or show it visually in pictures – but the stitching is something inexplicable, it takes a VERY keen eye to spot they double stitch high stress areas. Stitching and sewing leather is an incredibly difficult task – let alone perfectly hitting the same holes twice, which takes decades to master. The interesting thing with a Mitchell though is not just that you’re getting a skilled hand making your bag – it’s the fact that there are only two gentlemen who make Mitchell bags so you know the name of the craftsman making your bag and talk to him about how you'd like each element. Dave Mitchell, the son of Jerry Mitchell and an Argentinian gentleman by the name of Bernardo, who has been working for Mitchell for around 40 years.

The most difficult part of the bag to sew - done with absolute perfection - despite the tricky shape/thickness changes...
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Beautiful stitching/spacing and perfectly rounded around the edges - all done by hand/eye...
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Stitching masterpiece...
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Where the proprietary secret lies in the bags impeccable stitching is in Bernardo, who is in his 80’s and has been working with leather/stitching his entire life. Bernardo handles the most difficult stitches on the Mitchell bags and with seven decades of experience, you can be assured you’ve probably got the most skilled and experienced leather craftsman in the world making your bag. Whenever the bag catches my attention, I can’t help but admire and contemplate the history and tradition Bernardo has stitched into the bag.

Bernardo sewing...
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Bernardo clamping...
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The leather? It feels as though it’s been marinated in clarified butter and silk extract for six months prior to shipment. While the other high-end bags in this test are drenched in good to excellent quality leather, the Mitchell is hoisted onto a new level. It’s both incredibly thick/rugged, while being sinfully soft and luxurious to the touch. They stockpile some of the finest hand selected leather in the world – sparing no cost. Finding higher quality leather is highly unlikely as due to their small production levels, they’re able to use a quality of leather not possible for larger firms to reliably source.

A portion of their factory with some of their hand selected leather....
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Since these bags have been handmade and constantly improved over the last 40 years, they have an array of interesting patented features, which improve the look, feel and longevity of the bag. In fact, from time to time Dave Mitchell has customers come into his shop with 30-40 year old bags, that have seen daily use – and they’re still in great shape. The internal zippered pocket is incredibly handy/useful, the key holder is the easiest to use and most effective, the patented modular handle feels the most secure and sports the sleekest profile, the velcro side pocket is the most useful, the latches have a brass sleeve over the clasp which rotates, to make it slide up and down the leather when latching and unlatching the case making it the quickest/easiest buckle to manipulate and the interesting brass feet adorned in leather strips protect the bottom of the bag.

Internal zippered pocket...
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Back of the case with the essentially "hidden" velcro pocket...
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Incredible handle - and the velcro pocket open (Note: this is a VERY high quality velcro, doesn't make much noise when opened, yet has a very secure closure)....
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Key ring holder....
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Rotating brass sleeve to allow the strap to glide in and out...
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The feet are particularly noteworthy as with a handmade/stitched bag, the most vulnerable part of the bag is the bottom. Your heavy items in the bag put the most strain on the bottom stitching, and as your bag is put down day after day on hard and occasionally rough surfaces they found after 20 years or so of hard use, some bags would begin to have problems with the bottom stitching. Granted, the damage can be easily repaired – but it was deemed as a problem nonetheless, which was solved with the assistance of these incredibly smart looking feet…

Feet and the bottom of the bag showing its accordion design...
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Foot close up - showing the hand cut, matching piece of leather hand glued into each of the eight feet - everything on this bag is about finite attention to detail...
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Mitchell bags are primarily custom made to order, in fact if you go to the factory in Milwaukee you can hand pick the leather for your bag and if you’re so inclined you can take part in a few of the processes involved in making it, such as cutting the leather and such. While they do occasionally have a few in stock (ignore the stock on their website, it’s out of date and they’ve sold all of the bags offered for sale on it) they rarely have more than 1 or 2 available to purchase. Colors (even incredibly sharp looking two-tone bags), leather types, you name it.

Gorgeous two-tone pebble leather...
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Incredibly unique distressed brick briefcase, with black piping - truly the imagination is the only limit for their work and guaranteed the owner of that bag will never run into someone sporting a bag even reasonably similar...
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No two Mitchell’s are exactly alike which adds to the exclusivity of these bags – and exclusive they are. Sporting a price in the four figures range and with an output of about four briefcases a month, you never have to worry about someone else sporting the same bag at a boardroom meeting. What you will have to worry about however is the amount of time you’ll spend talking about the bag when interested strangers stop you – and rest assured, they’ll stop you. A few weeks ago, a gentleman sporting a snazzy Hartmann stopped me, asked me about the bag and when he found out it wouldn’t be an easy thing for him to purchase directly, he tried to buy the bag off my shoulder right then and there!

Close-up of the buttery smooth leather and it's natural grain...
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Expensive? YES. Exclusive? YES. Drop dead gorgeous? YES. A purchase that will last a lifetime? YES. Worth it? YES, YES, YES! In fact, I’ll eventually be buying at least one additional case in two-tone black/brown pebble grain leather.

Size comparison of the different bags, in relation to my full-size Dachshund - some of these bags are mighty large...
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Full disclosure - some of the bags in this comparison were provided by their manufacturer. My opinion remains objective and unbiased and I am not being paid by any of these companies.

[SRock]

Excellent write up, Joel! I look forward to parts II and III.

[The Knize]

Great write up.

Anyone like me dislike the buckled flap approach, much less the double buckled flap approach? Seems like a relative hassle getting the darn thing opened and closed.

I think I really prefer a zippered top, and plastic zippers might be smoother operating.

I do like that all of these seem to be of the drop in through the top rather than the zip around and open flat type.

I have owned fairly expensive brief cases/attachee bags. Frankly, all leather gets scratched up. I am not certain that I would rather not have something less expensive that I would case less about whether it got scratched up, whether from being thrown in the trunk of a cab, on the floor of my own car. I think I would be too worried about any of these cases other than the solo.

Also, I may have missed it, but I did not seem mention of weight. We pay lots of bucks for lighter and lighter laptops. I do not think I would want to give up the weight and size I saved going with a lighter smaller laptop top with heavier brief case. All in all I would rather have a 15.7 or whatever inch screen and an extra battery than a bigger heavier brief case.

Just my 2 cent immediate thoughts.

[Evbo]

Zowie. I don't even USE a briefcase and now I want a Mitchell! Thanks for a most interesting write-up!

[Sluggo]

Living in Milwaukee I am well aware of Mitchell's bags...they are awesome! Wish I could have one...Joel, that's where you come in :)

Seriously, how do you plan on judging such awesome bags over a period of year?

[SRock]

Living in Milwaukee I am well aware of Mitchell's bags...they are awesome! Wish I could have one...Joel, that's where you come in :)

Seriously, how do you plan on judging such awesome bags over a period of year?

Or better yet what do you plan on doing with them after testing is over. :lol: :drool:

[thirdeye]

Those are some nice looking bags. Great write up on them. Nothing I'd use but nice anyway.

[nmerth]

Okay so Joel is starting BRAD? (Briefcase Acquisition Disorder)? Thanks buddy.... Nice write up!

[Squid]

Wow! This is a great write up on these nice briefcases. I appreciate all of the time and effort you have taken in writing this thread. The pictures are also very good. Thank you!

When should we expect to see Part II and III?

[cfriend]

More signs I should start a forum to a long-lost art that will explode in membership and popularity. :blush: In all seriousness, I have minimal use for a briefcase at the current time, but I'll be damned if these aren't gorgeous. Nice! :thumbup1:

[joel]

Great write up.

Anyone like me dislike the buckled flap approach, much less the double buckled flap approach? Seems like a relative hassle getting the darn thing opened and closed.

I think I really prefer a zippered top, and plastic zippers might be smoother operating.

I do like that all of these seem to be of the drop in through the top rather than the zip around and open flat type.

I have owned fairly expensive brief cases/attachee bags. Frankly, all leather gets scratched up. I am not certain that I would rather not have something less expensive that I would case less about whether it got scratched up, whether from being thrown in the trunk of a cab, on the floor of my own car. I think I would be too worried about any of these cases other than the solo.

Also, I may have missed it, but I did not seem mention of weight. We pay lots of bucks for lighter and lighter laptops. I do not think I would want to give up the weight and size I saved going with a lighter smaller laptop top with heavier brief case. All in all I would rather have a 15.7 or whatever inch screen and an extra battery than a bigger heavier brief case.

Just my 2 cent immediate thoughts.

Hopefully a few points might shed a bit of clarity...

1.) Clasps and zippers fail, especially over extended periods of time, and with heavy items in the bag. For a $100 bag? Sure, a clasp is fine, but for a $400+ bag it's unacceptable. Think about this... have you ever had a quality leather belt (a single piece of quality tanned full grain leather - not the two thin pieces glued together, etc) break or fail? More than likely, unless there was an extreme occurrence, or you outgrew it - you haven't, and a belt see's a lot more stress that the latch of a bag.

2.) The buckles are slower, but in the case of the mitchell, due to their shape, length, brass roller, etc - they're mighty, mighty fast - and I mean maybe 2 seconds to undo both, and about 3-4 to latch them back. The buckles are actually faster than the full zipper of the HLASKA.

3.) The beauty of the Saddleback and the Mitchell is that they get better looking with age. They both use thick, full grain hides like a saddle. If you look at a properly cared for saddle that's 10 years old (daily use), and a properly cared for saddle that's 50 years old (daily use), you likely won't be able to tell the difference. These thick hides take on a beautiful distressed look with age - which in fact is more desirable than the "new" look for many - like a meerschaum pipe that's gone from snow white to butterscotch. In fact, both the founder of Saddleback Dave Munson as well as Dave Mitchell both shared stories with me on folks trying to buy their used bags as they much preferred the look, and didn't want to have to put the years of daily use to get it to that point. If you don't like that look however, all you'd need to do is apply a darkening leather conditioner (there are a myriad of different leather conditioners, some keep the leather the same color, some darken them, etc) and the scratches are all gone. There's a world of difference between a bag like a Saddleback - and bags you've likely experienced. In fact, the only bag I've seen under $800 or so that is built in this fashion is the Saddleback. Most are $1,000+.

4.) I mentioned the weight on the Saddleback, which is the heaviest at nearly 8lbs. The bad news is - yes, it's heavy, but the good news is when you add weight to it, because it is so rigid/solid - you barely feel it. It's odd, the bag in hand doesn't seem to be much different when it's empty as when it's carrying my laptop, lunch, phone, etc etc. Unfortunately with some items, when they're heavier (in the right way) they're better... you'd WANT a heavy/solid gold ring, versus a lighter, thinner (less durable, more malleable) ring right? Leather is no different... the thicker/more robust the leather, the longer it's going to last and you're getting more value. A light leather bag in this instance, is a sign of poor quality. For instance - the Solo is feather light, but if I used it for 10 years, guaranteed it'd be in pieces. In 10 years however with the Saddleback or the Mitchell - pending no extreme acts of god, they'll just be warming up.

Frankly, unless it has to do with going fast, I'm never interested in what things weigh, only their size. For instance, I'll take a cell phone that's 50% smaller/thinner but 50% heavier over a 50% larger and 50% lighter phone ay day. Same with laptops, etc. For me, the benefit of a smaller, thinner laptop is the ability to fit it in smaller cases, and/or give me the additional space to fit in more necessary items. If I'm carrying a 30lb (full) briefcase, 2-4 pounds one way or another, at least for me, isn't noticeable and/or going to make a big difference. That just me though - fellas with back/shoulder problems, older gentlemen, or gentlemen with a frail build might feel differently. At 6'3 and 190lbs - the weight of these bags with the same items in them, don't feel much different. In fact, the Mitchell which is much heavier than the Solo or the HLASKA, actually feels lighter with the same items in it, due to the superior ergonomics, design and the way it carries the weight.

As always, YMMV - but all four of these bags are quite nice, but i'll tell you one thing, in person the Mitchell and the Saddleback are jaw droppers. Pictures simply cannot do these bags justice. One smell (and you smell 'em before you see 'em for the first month or so) and one touch and you immediately know these are something very, very special.

My favorite story: I went to the Hartmann store 10 miles down the road sporting the Saddleback bag - as I wanted to compare the two and the gentleman working there had his eyes fixated on the Saddleback. He finally asked me about it and we struck up a lengthy dialogue, and after he gave the bag a good inspection, we both agreed it was superior to the Hartmann's in terms of quality - and he mentioned if it wasn't a few thousand dollars, he'd buy one in a heartbeat. I then told him it was actually about $550 - to which he asked me for the web site address and said he was ordering one that day. According to him, he couldn't even get a higher-end Hartmann of inferior quality for that price, even with his employee discount.

The point I'm trying to make is - you likely haven't seen a bag like the Mitchell and Saddleback before as there are only a handful of companies that make 'em that good, and they're exceptionally rare and they're usually prohibitively expensive for non-CEO types. One 30 second inspection - and a lot of the concerns/issues you have - I assure you, quickly sail away in the wind.

I just noticed on saddleback's web site - they've just released a thin briefcase (http://www.saddlebackleather.com/categories/104), which is even less costly, weighs only 4.5lbs and has only one strap, which essentially addresses all of your issues. I would love to scope out one of those bad boys....

[herbnerd]

rather than those soul-less executive cases.

They all look good but the Saddleback catches my eye the most.

Can't afford one....

[JEEP]

Excellent reading!

Have you looked into the Swedish firm Baron? http://www.baron.se/

I have their 4007; http://www.baron.se/world/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage_country&product_id=29&category_id=3&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=8 - af fine classic briefcase, also available in full leather.


Regards.

Jakob

[thunderball]

Awesome bags! I'm at once envious and curious to see how you end up liking each bag. :thumbup1:

[Nils]

Great write up, fantastic bags. But if I'm honest: I like your dog best!

[Phog Allen]

Wow Joel. Those are great briefcases. In my estimation the Saddleback is a bargain. When you consider it is made from about three yards of premium leather and no telling how many labour hours, it is clearly worth its price. I don't really need a briefcase but this makes me want one! I did come to the conclusion that their medium bifold wallet is the one I need. I have been looking for a great quality folding wallet for years. I have looked at all the designer brands at the big retailers and they are priced the same if not higher than the Sadleback models and the quality is not even in the same zip code. I have been on the lookout for years for a wallet that would compare favourably to the elephant hide models my dad had when I was a chld. He got them from his insurance salesman as promotions but that was four decades ago. I have seen nothing as durable since then but these Saddlebacks look very close. Great thread.

Regards, Todd

[ada8356]

I had a Saddleback in Chestnut (large) for a while.

It was a great bag, but just didn't fit my needs... especially for traveling.

My main complaints:

1) Super heavy. So much so that it was a PITA. I couldn't fathom carrying that bag on a flight.

2) The buckle clasps require two hands to open and close. Not a pain all of the time, but certainly a pain some of the time.

3) The handle was really disappointing. The entire bag is of superb quality, but the handle felt/sounded like a piece of leather wrapped PVC (maybe Joel can give his 0.02 on that bec I could be way off).

Again, it is a terrific bag if it fits your needs. Since I mainly use my bag for traveling I needed something a little more lightweight and a little more organized. I really need everything to have a pocket/place and this bag didn't come set-up that way w/o adding 'after-market' solutions.

At the end of the day it really pained me to not use a $500+ bag because it wasn't convenient so I sold it (to a member) and found something much more bland looking but a much better fit for my needs.

[Suzuki]

This is a great article - as a guy who uses a briefcase every day, I'm quite interested in the testing.

I do echo the comments regarding the weight of some of these bags - a bag that weights 8 pounds may not seem like a big deal, but if you do a lot of travel or walking with your bag (I have a 25 minute walk to the train), a heavy bag makes a big difference, especially when you throw in all your stuff. The other problem with a really big bag is that you tend to fill the space.

I also think that most of these bags are on the informal side - so possibly not the best choice to go with a suit and tie.


I have several bags - the two I use the most are a beat up Samsonite that is at least 15 years old in an unfinished leather that ages/abuses that is my to and from work bag and a dressier black bag that is perfect for a small computer and a few papers - so perfect for meetings.

I'd really like to see a review of the Saddleback thin bags, as these are more reasonable in terms of weight, size and are a little dressier in appearance as they seem a bit more constructed. This model seems like it would be a good choice for a lot of folks.

[chainfire]

I'm glad I'm not rich or I'd have serious saddle bag AD after looking at this. I can't even afford one, but I can at least now see what I've been missing. Thanks for the write-up. :thumbup1:

[adamant]

I think I'm in love with that Saddleback bag.

[joel]

This is a great article - as a guy who uses a briefcase every day, I'm quite interested in the testing.

I do echo the comments regarding the weight of some of these bags - a bag that weights 8 pounds may not seem like a big deal, but if you do a lot of travel or walking with your bag (I have a 25 minute walk to the train), a heavy bag makes a big difference, especially when you throw in all your stuff. The other problem with a really big bag is that you tend to fill the space.

I also think that most of these bags are on the informal side - so possibly not the best choice to go with a suit and tie.


I have several bags - the two I use the most are a beat up Samsonite that is at least 15 years old in an unfinished leather that ages/abuses that is my to and from work bag and a dressier black bag that is perfect for a small computer and a few papers - so perfect for meetings.

I'd really like to see a review of the Saddleback thin bags, as these are more reasonable in terms of weight, size and are a little dressier in appearance as they seem a bit more constructed. This model seems like it would be a good choice for a lot of folks.

+1 - the thin one didn't exist when this began, however I feel it would have been a better fit for the group. :001_smile

[jazzman]

I've been using the Saddleback for about 10 months, and I love it. It's big enough for a substantial folding umbrella, a hardback book, and whatever I need to bring home from the office. Some days, that's a lot of heavy papers, but the bag seems to be ergonomic enough for me to deal with it slung on one shoulder. Unlike other bags I've had, it does not change shape or sag when I fill it up. The down side is that it feels just as heavy when its closer to being empty. Like Joel, I'm a fairly big guy (and somewhat bulkier than Joel, but it's all muscle:lol:), so factor than in when making a decision.

It has a few open pockets inside that I use for an iPod, note pads, etc. I also throw in a fanny pack for small items and other things that don't fit into those pockets, including a sunglass case, and small things I don't want to get lost. Some companies give you a lot more convenience in that area, but I can accept Saddleback's philosophy of keeping it rustic, simple, and rugged--no zippers, clasps, or Velcro.

P.S. Someone mentioned the handle. Actually, it's made of large amount of thick leather, wrapped around another piece of thick leather. That's why it feels as stiff as PVC, but it's very comfortable in my hand.

In sum, don't buy a Saddleback bag. Part of the fun for me is that it looks unique, and if every B&B'er gets one, I'll look like part of the crowd.:001_cool:

[ada8356]

P.S. Someone mentioned the handle. Actually, it's made of large amount of thick leather, wrapped around another piece of thick leather. That's why it feels as stiff as PVC, but it's very comfortable in my hand.

Mine certainly sounded hollow when thumped.

[Cuttingboard]

I prefer the Mitchell bags because they are more versatile, can be used with a suit or dress casual. I may have to save my pennies for one of these!! Definitely a bag that will stand the test of time. I really like the Mitchell Messenger and Document briefcase below.

Mitchell Messenger
http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/front_small.jpg

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/side_view_small.jpg

Document Briefcase
http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/document_briefcase_small_ulye.jpg

[huntmol]

Outstanding comparison and write-up!

I still carry a backpack, but I look forward to the day when I will own a nice leather briefcase like these.

[Zen Master Kool-Aid]

Full disclosure - some of the bags in this comparison were provided by their manufacturer. My opinion remains objective and unbiased and I am not being paid by any of these companies.

You're a sharp and crafty dude, Joel. And quite lucky.

I won't go any further than that, but I will say that at least one of these bags will be finding its way into my personal inventory before long.

This is a fantastic venue for these manufacturers to show off their amazing products. There are a lot of guys here that fit their target demographic to a "T", myself being no exception.

I like nice things. I'm willing to pay good money for nice things, especially if they will last a while. These bags fit the profile.

Great review! And I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with the field research for the remaining installments! :001_smile

[6Jetwrangler]

Wow Excellent right up. Im looking into a Saddleback ASAP.

[BobS]

That was an outstanding review.

I have been in love with the Saddleback since the announcement of the giveaway in the B&B Carnival.

I hope that their thin briefcase is included in the comparison.

What ever happened to the idea of a group buy?

[KarthVader]

I'll know that I made something of myself and I've received the fruit of my labors when I own any of these bags. The Saddleback makes me salivate.

[supershaver]

This is such a coincidence! I just bought my first messenger bag because I was tired of looking like a kid lugging my eddie bauer backpack to work every day. I'ma 30-year old grown ass man, i should look like one. Anyway, I settled on a bag from Banana Republic (attached is a picture of it).

I wanted something floppy and light. Not hard leather and heavy. This is my first one. If I do end up needing more room and more protection, I will probably look into the fascinating bags listed in this review. I looked in a few bags at the mall, and what really sold me about this bag was that the clasp was an actual clip. All the other ones were held together by one of those little circular magnetic things, and i didn't like that. Even if they had buckles, they were just for show because the magnet was underneath.

I love the bags shown here. Good quality leather goods are lifetime items and are works of art. I love that stuff.

[supershaver]

By the way, is there a website for the Mitchell products? I can't find anything. I'm interested in their messenger bags.

Cuttingboard, where did you get those pictures above?

[joel]

By the way, is there a website for the Mitchell products? I can't find anything. I'm interested in their messenger bags.

Cuttingboard, where did you get those pictures above?

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/

[supershaver]

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/

Ugh...I'm drooling over those messenger bags. I'll spoil myself with one of those one day.

[supershaver]

This is off-topic, but related:
Where can I find a good leather belt? Last year, I searched forever in stores and tried belt after belt, and the quality was horrible and they lasted less than a year. I want good quality leather, that lasts years, soft leather (not stiff). Any suggestions will be appreciated.

[joel]

This is off-topic, but related:
Where can I find a good leather belt? Last year, I searched forever in stores and tried belt after belt, and the quality was horrible and they lasted less than a year. I want good quality leather, that lasts years, soft leather (not stiff). Any suggestions will be appreciated.

http://www.beltmaster.com/ it's absolutely, positively the best value in a high quality belt. My suggestion is to purchase a cool vintage belt buckle, I've got some pretty incredible sterling silver Hopi belt buckles that are real conversation starters.

[Tuxedo7]

I have now owned a Saddleback bag for a well over a year. I won't spend a ton of time echoing the comments about high quality leather ... it is all true. The carry handle has very heavy, comfortable padding. The CINCH straps seem to be showing the most wear, and if anything goes, I would expect it to be the CINCH straps. Initially I was more worried about the cinch straps, but after a year, I think they'll be OK ... they just wear differently than the rest of the bag. The SHOULDER BACKPACK straps are fairly comfortable, but a little bulky. My intention in purchasing this item was to have something that looked professional, and that I could also carry to work as a backpack on days I ride my motorcycle. The SHOULDER BACKPACK straps are kind of bulky, and not as comfortable and ergonomic as they might be ... I'd suggest two separate shoulder straps rather than the single strap that runs through a D-ring in the top center ... it would be more comfortable, stable, and much easier to get on and off. Also, I purchased the Medium size based on measurements provided, but you should know that the thickness and bulkiness of the leather and interior pockets and such, takes up space, making the utility smaller than you might guess with the dimensions and I regret not getting the Large size. My medium size will fit "Legal" sized files, but they tend to get smashed on the ends and I have to force the legal files in ... the extra couple of inches for the large would prevent this. If you don't carry a long laptop, or legal-sized files, the width of the Medium would probably be fine. As a backpack, and given the dimension and weight differences compared to my Medium, I can't imagine the XL being very comfortable or stable, but the Large would probably be fine. I guess the point of these comments is that if you really intend to use this as a BACKPACK very often, you may want to look for a more comfortable option .... if you are primarily looking for a BRIEFCASE that you can occassionally carry as a backpack, then this should be great. As a backpack, it rides a little high on the shoulders, again, as a function of the single, central D-ring mounted shoulder straps. Some other notes ... I have a smaller, much less expensive, lighter briefcase that I use when I have a small load to carry ... the point being that if you have a small load, it does seem funny to carry such a substantial piece of leather for a couple of files. If you generally carry a moderate to heavy load, then this is not an issue. Also, the stability is such that the backpack tends to fall backward unless you lean it against something (a small nit), and the "distressing" of the leather looks as if it were done by someone scratching with a fingernail. All in all, this bag has excellent quality, and is a head-turner, but with a couple of ergonomic drawbacks, and I don't use it as much as I thought due to it's bulkiness. I would purchase again, but in the Large size. Also, realize that some of my "nits" may have been worked out since my purchase well over a year or two ago (e.g., I don't seem to see the 'finger-nail" distressing in current marketing photos), and he straps seem to look better finished.

[Tuxedo7]

Also note that Saddleback offers three size options in the item reviewed here, and they also offer a wide product range from duffle bag to briefcase,to messenger bag, to backpack, to wallet to coasters ... all with the same sturdy qualtiy you might expect from "J. Peterman" (for you Seinfeld fans).

[SeaPea]

Great review, and the pics & descriptions are quite enticing! I'm a fan of a bargain.

Does anyone know where these are made and if the trade is fair?

Thanks,

SeaPea

[Seraphim]

I prefer the Mitchell bags because they are more versatile, can be used with a suit or dress casual. I may have to save my pennies for one of these!! Definitely a bag that will stand the test of time. I really like the Mitchell Messenger and Document briefcase below.

Mitchell Messenger
http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/front_small.jpg

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/side_view_small.jpg

Document Briefcase
http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/document_briefcase_small_ulye.jpg


Holy Moly, check out those prices!


I'm woozy!:blink:


Super-nice stuff though!

[supershaver]

http://www.beltmaster.com/ it's absolutely, positively the best value in a high quality belt. My suggestion is to purchase a cool vintage belt buckle, I've got some pretty incredible sterling silver Hopi belt buckles that are real conversation starters.
Thanks! I must buy a belt from them. I've never had separate belt buckles. Does that work with business dress clothes? I'd imagine they'd be too large? I don't know. Thanks again.

[pras]

I don't know if Tusting is a brand that backed out when they heard who the competition is, but I swear by my Tusting Grafton. This bag was a gift when I graduated from lawschool from my wife.

Here is a link:

http://www.tusting.co.uk/Grafton_Leather_Laptop_Briefcase_in_Sundance_Flood light.asp

Mine is the saddle leather like Joel mentioned earlier. I have never seen anyone else with this bag. The bag is lined with a heavy weight canvas. The middle slot is padded with a velcro closure to protect your laptop. As you can see from the photos on Tusting's website, its got a zipper top.

I have had this bag for 2.5 years and I use it daily. It is starting to develop a rich patina. Hopefully this will develop nicely over the next 30 years. Because it is saddle leather, it is very heavy. If you want to return it to its original look you can wash it with saddle soap.

This is a great bag.

Phil

p.s. I will post some pictures once I get my laptop back from repair. Once I can save up some money, I will be getting a duffle or two from Tusting!

[blackfoot]

Awesome and great write up! I am very jealous. :thumbup1:

[rudy812]

When I bought my 2005 Vespa PX150 limited Canadian Series, a special USA made, limited Canadian Series Vespa messager bag came with it. I thought this is very cool and have not seen anything like it. It is very well made, very well priced and I very happy to own it and use it, but it did not fully fit my needs. Just about everyone who are into Vespa tell me that I should not use it because it is a collector item. When I find a bag that is better then I will not use it; I like all bags that are mention, but one look at the Saddleback and I am sold. It is nice to know there are high quality products still available that last and are timeless. Just about everytime I find such products, there price range becomes exclusive and over rated. Eventhough the price is high, as long as it reflects quality and workmanship, with acceptable profit margin, I am willing to pay for something that will last my lifetime, otherwise I stick to cheap deposable, one year throw away products.

[SRock]

Awesome and great write up! I am very jealous. :thumbup1:

+1 So many great bags in this review and in the responses! I really do want that Saddleback!

[adamant]

Just for a comparison, a gallon of milk weighs about 8 pounds.

[On the Edge]

I'll give ya $5 for the dog...

[Frowzy]

I liked the Solo Classic MSRP the best. Looks like a college appropriate bag ...for a college budget

[adamant]

I've been checking 'Dave's deals' at Saddleback leather as often as I can. There are quite a few items up for sale at a pretty big discount! They seem to only have defects that I know I would have made anyway.

EDIT: Ok well there were 2 briefcases when I looked earlier, but they have since been sold!

[joel]

Thanks! I must buy a belt from them. I've never had separate belt buckles. Does that work with business dress clothes? I'd imagine they'd be too large? I don't know. Thanks again.

Yep - works find, you can get SUPER nice/classy belt buckles. I wear mine with a suit and tie all the time.

[Rudy Vey]

Love that dog!! Got two Wieners myself, the best dogs in the world!

[baldguy]

Wonderful article! Excellent writing, And great photographs. Thank you Joel.

[Evbo]

Not to derail this thread, but fwiw ... after looking @ all the goodies on Saddleback's website, I went ahead & ordered myself a new wallet. :w00t: It's supposed to show up tomorrow. Can't wait to check it out!

[supershaver]

Yep - works find, you can get SUPER nice/classy belt buckles. I wear mine with a suit and tie all the time.
If it's not too much trouble, could you post a picture of one that you are talking about? Something that a young person can wear professionally in a hip, urban area like Los Angeles (that's where I am). Thanks.

[supershaver]

Not to derail this thread, but fwiw ... after looking @ all the goodies on Saddleback's website, I went ahead & ordered myself a new wallet. :w00t: It's supposed to show up tomorrow. Can't wait to check it out!

i was just about to do the same thing, I want that super thin wallet.

[joel]

If it's not too much trouble, could you post a picture of one that you are talking about? Something that a young person can wear professionally in a hip, urban area like Los Angeles (that's where I am). Thanks.

Google hopi belt buckle or belt buckle and you'll find thousands which will suit all different styles.

[supershaver]

[sorry for continuing this off-topic; last one!]
Joel, thanks for the beltmaster recommendation. I just got a belt and the quality is fantastic. I think I got it a little too casual, so I may get some fancier ones. Their prices are unbelievable. For the same price as a lame belt from Ross, you can get a Beltmaster that is made of great leather and with infinite styles.

[Thomas More]

I have a Saddleback bag and it is great. It is worth every penny. Great company too.

[Confederate Colonel]

The thin briefcase is almost just what I've been looking for. Their other ones were built the way I want, but their design just wasn't "fine" enough for what I was looking for. The thin briefcase is a big leap forward, but it's not quite there yet.

Here is one design issue that I just can't understand - look at the length of the strap that is used to close it. It is way too long. In their own photos, it is so long that it bends outward when set on the floor at what looks like a typical loading. That means that it is going to get ratty looking on the end, and with the heavy leather that they use, it is going to stick out as it takes a "set" from being constantly bent out. That is going to look about as classy as a pocket protector. There is no way that anyone is ever going to stuff one so full that they would need that excess length (even if you did, the section where the grip attaches would be sideways).

What were they thinking??

I think I'll wait until they change that - or until they at least allow a shorter one as a customer request. I really want to buy one, but if I'm going to spend that kind of money, I don't want something that is going to be bugging me for the rest of my life - even such a "little" thing as that.

Please change it, Saddleback!

http://www.saddlebackleather.com/system/uploads/assets/New%20Product%20Images%20Batch%202/BC-MT-CH%20front,%20thin%20leather%20briefcase,%20thin%2 0leather%20satchel,%20thin%20leather%20backpack,%2 0thin%20leather%20laptop%20bag,%20case,%20leather% 20portfolio,%20150%20squared.jpg

I wish they would also make the extra D-rings an option - or simply drop them altogether. I want a handsome, rugged, well-made briefcase, not a backpack. On the big original ones, OK - just not the thin one. They're missing the boat a bit on what many of their customers are looking for.

[ada8356]

C. Colonel -

It might be worth emailing/calling them. If I remember correctly they say they are receptive to some customization... it might just take a while to get your piece.

The changes that you are asking for seem so minor that they most likely could easily (and happily) accommodate.

[Confederate Colonel]

Thanks, but here's what they have on their FAQ page (http://www.saddlebackleather.com/11-questions) about that:


Can you make minor changes to my bag?

No. It sounds really easy to have one made without d-rings or with an extra pocket, but it really is a whole lot of work. Please believe me.

I wouldn't mind having to wait for it, but it doesn't like that is an option.

[biomesh]

They may not customize your specific bag, but they are very open to feedback. You should send your suggestion, just to be heard. The worst they can say is no.

[Confederate Colonel]

I know that Saddleback says that they do not make changes for orders, but I suspect that if a group of us said we would like to order a batch made a certain way, they would go along with it. I, for one, would gladly pre-pay for a thin briefcase, large size, with the following changes from their regular one:

• Shortened strap, so that it does not extend past the bottom of the bag when buckled in the second hole (as shown on their photo).
• Omit the extra D-ring on the top near the handle.
• Omit the 4 extra D-rings at the bottom.
• Omit the 4 extra D-rings at the top, leaving only the two in the middle that are used for the shoulder strap.

For Saddleback, they would be saving the cost involved in adding 9 different items to the briefcase and that should way more than pay for any logistical inconvenience involved - especially when it is a group of them. Although I like the idea of having a somewhat unique briefcase that way, it would also serve as a nice marketing proto-type for them in case they decided to add that to their product line. I am certain that there is a real market for a high quality briefcase for those who understand what a briefcase is for (and it is not for clipping and hanging a bunch of "stuff" to the outside or wearing as a backpack). Saddleback has the opportunity to build the first real "old school" classic briefcase made in decades. I sure hope they go with it. I will be waiting for it.

Would anybody else be willing to go along with approaching Saddleback with a list of folks who would pre-pay for such a batch order?

[Confederate Colonel]

They may not customize your specific bag, but they are very open to feedback. You should send your suggestion, just to be heard. The worst they can say is no.

I think I will do just that. First though, I want to see what feedback there is from folks here on Badger & Blade. They would be more likely to listen if it came from a group of men who are from their most likely customer base.

[ada8356]

hmmm, I wonder if that's new?

I could have sworn I had seen something almost the opposite of that (a year or so ago)... oh well.

[diro]

Saddleback group buy anyone? What kind of discount could we expect for 10-100 of these at once?

[SRock]

Saddleback group buy anyone? What kind of discount could we expect for 10-100 of these at once?

Actually we already looked into this. Jim put out a feeler poll that ran for some time after the end of this years Carnival.

There wasn't enough interest to get us near the numbers needed for Saddleback to offer a worthwhile discount.

[Confederate Colonel]

Actually we already looked into this. Jim put out a feeler poll that ran for some time after the end of this years Carnival.

There wasn't enough interest to get us near the numbers needed for Saddleback to offer a worthwhile discount.

While a discount is always nice, I would be quite happy to just get them to run a batch of thin briefcases with the changes I described previously. What do you think the chance of that might be if we got 10 folks to order a modified thin briefcase?

[rickshah]

Hey Folks,

Any thoughts on the Filson field satchel?

http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2092389&keywords=field+satchel

It's definately pretty sharp and from what I understand well made.

[Confederate Colonel]

Hey Folks,

Any thoughts on the Filson field satchel?

http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2092389&keywords=field+satchel

It's definately pretty sharp and from what I understand well made.

It looks beautiful, and Filson has a well-deserved reputation for quality. I have a Filson hunting vest and it will outlast me - I'm certain of that.

The only two problems I see with it are:

• Those little locks always seem to stop working after not a lot of use. I doubt there is any way to build something like that so it lasts. If anyone could do it, Filson could, but I am still very leery of it.
• $800. I am quite willing to pay for quality, but that is simply more than I am willing to pay for a briefcase - no matter how well it is made. I just cannot justify that kind of money for a briefcase.

Since I haven't seen any interest from others in getting Saddleback to do a custom batch (at their regular price), it looks like I'm going to have to give up on that idea. I'll continue using the nylon briefcase that I've been using for the past 18 years. If Saddleback comes out with an "old school" version of the thin briefcase like I've described, I'll be ordering one of the first ones out. Until then, I'll use what I have.

[SRock]

Hey Folks,

Any thoughts on the Filson field satchel?

http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2092389&keywords=field+satchel

It's definately pretty sharp and from what I understand well made.

It's nice looking but for the cost I'd rather save a few hundred dollars and get the Saddleback.

[The Nid Hog]

It's nice looking but for the cost I'd rather save a few hundred dollars and get the Saddleback.

I think that the Saddleback is the way to go. Any aspiring exec would be wise to keep the D-Rings too. If business falls off, they'll be just right for attaching a bedroll.

[SRock]

I think that the Saddleback is the way to go. Any aspiring exec would be wise to keep the D-Rings too. If business falls off, they'll be just right for attaching a bedroll.

:lol::lol::lol:

[Redig]

It's not a purse, it's a satchel.

[BobS]

I am really getting close to pulling the trigger on a Briefcase from Saddleback, but cannot decide between the thin briefcase and the satchel.

Does anyone know if the satchel has has extra padding in one side to protect a laptop?

[insomb]

Since I haven't seen any interest from others in getting Saddleback to do a custom batch (at their regular price), it looks like I'm going to have to give up on that idea. I'll continue using the nylon briefcase that I've been using for the past 18 years. If Saddleback comes out with an "old school" version of the thin briefcase like I've described, I'll be ordering one of the first ones out. Until then, I'll use what I have.

I was interested in getting a custom saddleback too, without the logo and brass hardware. They said they will only do it if the order is (if I remember correctly) 50+. That's a big group buy. I really really like their stuff but the small aspects are enough to keep me from making a purchase.

[Confederate Colonel]

I was interested in getting a custom saddleback too, without the logo and brass hardware. They said they will only do it if the order is (if I remember correctly) 50+. That's a big group buy. I really really like their stuff but the small aspects are enough to keep me from making a purchase.

Wow - 50 pieces! In an economy like this, a company selling a high-end luxury item will need to learn pretty fast that flexibility will be the key to staying profitable. Companies could get away with that when times were good, but I suspect they will have to change their ways - and soon. It doesn't make me an expert, but I've been running my own business for just short of 15 years. I have learned that my customers are the best design and marketing team I could ever hope for. I hope Saddleback learns that lesson before they get left behind. As you said, they have it almost right. Unfortunately, when you're talking about a high-dollar luxury item, "almost" isn't good enough - especially when the manufacturing cost would actually be less for the customer-requested design. Apparently there are plenty enough people who like what they have to offer now enough to buy it as-is, but I suspect that a high percentage of them would have preferred something just a bit different. There is probably a much larger number of would-be customers for whom that small design issue made the difference between buy and don't buy. I know that I'm one of them. What they sell is a rather specialized item, and at some point, rising market saturation will cross declining economy, and they will need to do something to win those "would have bought" potential customers.

I'm not holding my breath for a change, but I'm not going to buy their current design.

[burnwood]

I said to wife "Look at..." she stopped me with a "NO" before I could finish. Yep I have 0 need for a briefcase but that Saddleback is gorgeous.

[SRock]

I said to wife "Look at..." she stopped me with a "NO" before I could finish. Yep I have 0 need for a briefcase but that Saddleback is gorgeous.

Look at it this way, at least your wife knows you very well! :lol: :thumbup1:

[Crouse229]

Being from Texas I'm kind of partial to Texan stuff. King Ranch is a big brand down here, but I was curious as to how they stacked up in the leather goods department with these other folks. Anyone had experience with King Ranch leather goods from their Saddle Shop?

http://www.krsaddleshop.com/briefcases-and-agendas/c/402/ipp/5000/action/showall/

[BobS]

I am still hot for a Saddleback but the King Ranch briefcases do look pretty nice. I wish that they told more about the construction and showed the inside.

[Stubblefield]

Hey Folks,

Any thoughts on the Filson field satchel?

http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2092389&keywords=field+satchel

It's definately pretty sharp and from what I understand well made.

I spent some time up at the Filson store in Seattle looking it over, and can tell you that it is one outstanding briefcase. The leather that they use is so sturdy that it will take quite a while for the case to break in. And if you ever need repairs, you can ship the case back to Filson.

Outland USA is running a sale on the case right now:

http://www.outlandusa.com/Filson_Leather_Field_Satchel_252_p/fils252.htm

[David P]

I have a Saddle back XL briefcase. Im 6'4" and just under 280. Even I say "thats a lota bag!" I got my bag the day before I left for Thailand for what turned out to be a 5 week trip. Before I even opened the box I smelled it, it was good! I opened it and got it out of the bag, I swear to god my boss walked in the back saying "why do I smell leather?...Wow look at that!" It is heavy. I packed it with my 15" Mac, power cord, book, ipod, change of clothes (18 hour flight) and some other odds and ends. with that much stuff there was no way it would fit under my seat but it fit in the overhead just fine. This bag became my baby while I was in Thailand, it carried my laptop to and from work, and carried extra water bottles for my exploration after work. I used it as an umbrella (hurricane from Philippines hit while I was there) Used it as a pillow (too much to drink so crashed at a friends place... Ill be damned if after 5 weeks of HARD use it didnt look better. I got home and had to send it back for the slightest repair, the key clip didnt always close. They sent a pickup tag, paid for all shipping and took care of fixing it. In exchange for the inconvenience they sent me a little present too! I told them if they are going to replace the clasp fine, if they're going to replace the entire bag, not fine, send it bag I will deal with the clasp, I have been through a lot with that bag.
Im a realist, the bag is not perfect, I dont think any bag is. But for me its he closest Ive seen. I would like to have a pen loop or two on the inside and maybe smaller pockets inside. I would like to have a thin pocket for some papers inside (the one on the back works just fine though) the leather tongue that keeps the cover locked is long. My daily carry is my mac, power supply, geek bag (small zipper bag with flash drive, card reader, ipod cable and other computer crap) hair brush, some papers and paper pads, with all this I still tie it down to the last hole in the strap. I also attach the clasps of the shoulder strap on the central D ring as front Dring to keep the opening smaller. I keep looking for a small clean clip to put on the bottom middle and front drings to keep the whole thing smaller. For me I will never (big word there) use it as a backpack so I could do without the O ring on top. Would also like to have tops to the two outside end pockets...
In the end I ask myself would I buy it again... in a heartbeat! I am now looking at their duffle bag and a couple of their small items. I also have one of their pouches (that was the free gift) It is really cool, not surprisingly very well made... but a little too "dapper" for me. I sometimes clip it onto the handle and let it hang in the back pocket, I can throw my wallet/money clip in there with my keys and other small stuff... but can picture myeslf walking around town with the thing slung over my shoulder.

I will say that the Mitchell looks to be just a bit more fit and finish.. but its just a little too prim and proper for my personal stylings... perhaps if my job changes and I have to appear even more profesional...

[SRock]

I have a Saddle back XL briefcase. Im 6'4" and just under 280. Even I say "thats a lota bag!" I got my bag the day before I left for Thailand for what turned out to be a 5 week trip. Before I even opened the box I smelled it, it was good! I opened it and got it out of the bag, I swear to god my boss walked in the back saying "why do I smell leather?...Wow look at that!" It is heavy. I packed it with my 15" Mac, power cord, book, ipod, change of clothes (18 hour flight) and some other odds and ends. with that much stuff there was no way it would fit under my seat but it fit in the overhead just fine. This bag became my baby while I was in Thailand, it carried my laptop to and from work, and carried extra water bottles for my exploration after work. I used it as an umbrella (hurricane from Philippines hit while I was there) Used it as a pillow (too much to drink so crashed at a friends place... Ill be damned if after 5 weeks of HARD use it didnt look better. I got home and had to send it back for the slightest repair, the key clip didnt always close. They sent a pickup tag, paid for all shipping and took care of fixing it. In exchange for the inconvenience they sent me a little present too! I told them if they are going to replace the clasp fine, if they're going to replace the entire bag, not fine, send it bag I will deal with the clasp, I have been through a lot with that bag.
Im a realist, the bag is not perfect, I dont think any bag is. But for me its he closest Ive seen. I would like to have a pen loop or two on the inside and maybe smaller pockets inside. I would like to have a thin pocket for some papers inside (the one on the back works just fine though) the leather tongue that keeps the cover locked is long. My daily carry is my mac, power supply, geek bag (small zipper bag with flash drive, card reader, ipod cable and other computer crap) hair brush, some papers and paper pads, with all this I still tie it down to the last hole in the strap. I also attach the clasps of the shoulder strap on the central D ring as front Dring to keep the opening smaller. I keep looking for a small clean clip to put on the bottom middle and front drings to keep the whole thing smaller. For me I will never (big word there) use it as a backpack so I could do without the O ring on top. Would also like to have tops to the two outside end pockets...
In the end I ask myself would I buy it again... in a heartbeat! I am now looking at their duffle bag and a couple of their small items. I also have one of their pouches (that was the free gift) It is really cool, not surprisingly very well made... but a little too "dapper" for me. I sometimes clip it onto the handle and let it hang in the back pocket, I can throw my wallet/money clip in there with my keys and other small stuff... but can picture myeslf walking around town with the thing slung over my shoulder.

I will say that the Mitchell looks to be just a bit more fit and finish.. but its just a little too prim and proper for my personal stylings... perhaps if my job changes and I have to appear even more profesional...

Cool mini-review! Thanks.

[blackfoot]

+1!

[BobS]

I pulled the trigger on a Lg briefcase in the Chestnut color this afternoon and can hardly wait until it gets here.

[Ashy]

I bought their messenger bag. Since I live in Europe, it takes a while to get here :cryin:

[rudy812]

I bought one of Saddleback Leather medium wallets for myself, and four small wallets as gifts; just so I can inspect the variety of colors, the quality and characteristic of the leather, and craftsmenship. First impressions, so far I am impressed and is exactly what I am looking for; a well priced, attractive and well wearing, tough leather item. The medium wallet, by comparison, is slightly bigger than all the wallets I have bought previously, and is now slowly getting broken in and starting to look better than new; just the opposite with all previous flimsy wallets. I am very hard on my wallets and usually have to replace them within a year. We will see about the 100 yr warranty. If my wallet passes my test after a year, I will be buying three large purchase items from Saddleback Leather.

[BobS]

My Lg, Chestnut colored briefcase arrived today and I am in love. This is a NICE case!

[Tha Baron]

My Lg, Chestnut colored briefcase arrived today and I am in love. This is a NICE case!

Awesome... I got my eye on the 'Thin' briefcase! Not sure if I want to get medium (15") or large (17"). One thing I noticed is that Saddleback Leather uses Amazon.com as a sales portal (i.e. their rpodcuts are listed and you can checkout with Amazon, but the prodcut ships from Saddleback). This is extremely interesting for me since I have the Amazon rewards credit card and have a few hundred in gift certificates to use up!!!

[Prince]

I bought one of Saddleback Leather medium wallets for myself, and four small wallets as gifts; just so I can inspect the variety of colors, the quality and characteristic of the leather, and craftsmenship. First impressions, so far I am impressed and is exactly what I am looking for; a well priced, attractive and well wearing, tough leather item. The medium wallet, by comparison, is slightly bigger than all the wallets I have bought previously, and is now slowly getting broken in and starting to look better than new; just the opposite with all previous flimsy wallets. I am very hard on my wallets and usually have to replace them within a year. We will see about the 100 yr warranty. If my wallet passes my test after a year, I will be buying three large purchase items from Saddleback Leather.

Nice to know. I've been eye-balling the wallets myself.

[SRock]

Nice to know. I've been eye-balling the wallets myself.

I've had mine now (large bi-fold) for a couple of months. I get compliments on it all the time. Yesterday I was standing in line at Subway a lunch and the guy behind me says, "What smells like leather?" I turned so he could see what I was holding and he says, "No way!" I said, yup. Then he said, "Wow that's nice." I told him where to get one.

Happens all the time.

[joel]

Nice to know. I've been eye-balling the wallets myself.

There may be a custom B&B spec version available soon. :thumbup:

[SRock]

There may be a custom B&B spec version available soon. :thumbup:

Oh great, months AFTER I bought mine! :lol:

[BobS]

Oh well, I have enjoyed mine all week!!

[blackfoot]

There may be a custom B&B spec version available soon. :thumbup:

:drool:

[Prince]

There may be a custom B&B spec version available soon. :thumbup:

Ok, I'll bite.

Any timeframe?

[Sullybob]

There may be a custom B&B spec version available soon. :thumbup:

That sounds great!

Any chance of other Saddleback B&B custom gear?

[erde]

Very nice reading and great pictures. Especially useful for me since I currently have to carry a large Thinkpad W500 as well.
I guess for my day to day routine I stay with my current standart Lenovo back made of synthetic fiber. but could imagine to own such a nice one for special purpose (.. have to think what this could be though :blink: ).

Thanks again, erde

[WyGuy]

Damn, that Saddleback looks great! I'll get one of them someday, but gonna start with their wallet for now :001_smile

[dmachine]

I don't need a briefcase but their overnight bag looks tempting. Quick, someone do a review on it. :001_smile

[blackfoot]

I don't need a briefcase but their overnight bag looks tempting. Quick, someone do a review on it. :001_smile

Okay, just to help out, you can send me one and I will review it for you. :cool:

[dmachine]

I don't need a briefcase but their overnight bag looks tempting. Quick, someone do a review on it. :001_smile


Okay, just to help out, you can send me one and I will review it for you. :cool:

:lol:

[KingOfBreifne]

Saddleback is THE STUFF!

:thumbup1:

I've got a large briefcase, a medium satchel, and one of the pouches -- all in Chestnut.

Phenomenal quality & styling.

~ Ryan

[carman63]

Short-time lurker, first post :) I have a chestnut overnight duffel, and a dark tobacco backpack (that I'll probably sell), and a few wallets. They're definitely made to last! I'd love to get a thin briefcase, but I'd need to move the backpack first.

I use the duffel for overnight trips mostly. I haven't flown with it yet, but it should qualify as a carry-on easily. It's my favorite piece of luggage :)

-Jim

[Confederate Colonel]

Since Saddleback doesn't do modifications, I have found the briefcase that I'll be ordering. It is the 1945 Three Compartment US Army Briefcase (http://www.customhide.com/custom_1945_US_Army_briefcase.html) from Custom Hide. It has the simple old-school style that I have been looking for and the rugged construction without the weight. I am fully aware that it isn't going to be as durable as the Saddleback (nobody is going to match Saddleback for durability), but then I'm using the briefcase as a briefcase and not imagining myself as being in an Indiana Jones movie.

http://www.customhide.com/1945_US_Army_Briefcase.jpg

[Prince]

Since Saddleback doesn't do modifications, I have found the briefcase that I'll be ordering. It is the 1945 Three Compartment US Army Briefcase (http://www.customhide.com/custom_1945_US_Army_briefcase.html) from Custom Hide. It has the simple old-school style that I have been looking for and the rugged construction without the weight. I am fully aware that it isn't going to be as durable as the Saddleback (nobody is going to match Saddleback for durability), but then I'm using the briefcase as a briefcase and not imagining myself as being in an Indiana Jones movie.

http://www.customhide.com/1945_US_Army_Briefcase.jpg

Very nice. I like the look of it. Is the key optional? I'd hate to lose a key.

[Confederate Colonel]

Very nice. I like the look of it. Is the key optional? I'd hate to lose a key.

I'm going to be calling them on Monday, and the latch is something I specifically wanted to ask them about. I'll post the info as soon as I get it.

As the name "Custom Hide" implies, they are quite happy to make any sort of modifications you want. I will be looking at leaving off one of the three compartments to make it 2.5" thinner (but still wide enough to stand up without tipping over), leaving off the pockets on the inside for pens, cell phone, and that sort of thing (I prefer just using a zippered pouch inside), and having my initials embossed. If there is a keyless latch available, or something less mechanical, I will specify that as well.

[JPV]

@confederate colonel:
maybe that is what you are looking for?:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2767735&id=153999788187
Thats an upcoming saddleback briefcase

[Confederate Colonel]

@confederate colonel:
maybe that is what you are looking for?:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2767735&id=153999788187
Thats an upcoming saddleback briefcase

Very interesting! If I were looking for a attache case, that would likely be my top pick. I had that type a number of years ago, and they are certainly nice, but for my current use, I want a regular briefcase that stands up and loads from the top. If I am at a meeting, it needs to set next to my chair and not take up a lot of room; I need to be able to quietly reach inside for what I need. Thanks for posting that though - good to see they are continuing to look at different options. I like Saddleback, and I am currently waiting for delivery of a wallet I ordered from them, but their briefcases just aren't what I'm looking for.

[mihaispencer]

wow never heard of mitchell or hlaska, i guess i haven't researched as well as i thought... saddleback i have heard of but i must concede my dream bag is somewhere else:
this beautiful bag of note is on the site www.mw-traveler.com

sorry but those bags are definitely money, but i like the classy look more than the rugged adventurer one (my chick probably used her ways to steer me this way...)

[Confederate Colonel]

wow never heard of mitchell or hlaska, i guess i haven't researched as well as i thought... saddleback i have heard of but i must concede my dream bag is somewhere else:
this beautiful bag of note is on the site www.mw-traveler.com

sorry but those bags are definitely money, but i like the classy look more than the rugged adventurer one (my chick probably used her ways to steer me this way...)

If you're looking at their "Classic Briefcase", be sure that you understand what those "quick release pull snaps" are that they have on their briefcase. I bought one from another company a few years back and then immediately returned it after seeing what they really are - cheap, stamped metal fasteners that are difficult to work with and likely would not last anywhere near as long as the rest of the case would. These may well be different, and high quality items, but I would encourage you to look at those "quick release pull snaps" carefully before buying one unless you can return it without too great a penalty.

[Confederate Colonel]

Very nice. I like the look of it. Is the key optional? I'd hate to lose a key.

I said I was going to call them and ask about different types of latches. Instead, I decided to just get one without any sort of latch. It will be secured only by the two buckle straps. The locking latch really doesn't do anything more than lock it anyway, and since I'm not going to be locking it, why have the lock at all? Nothing to break, no key to lose.

I sent off my request for a quote today.

[mihaispencer]

Wow I like that briefcase by saddleback.

Damnit, I didn't notice about those quick snaps on the mw-traveler.com. Not very classy :/ I still wonder if they're sturdy tho...

http://imgur.com/beovi.jpg

http://imgur.com/QQwe2.jpg

I'm kinda sold on the horsehide idea though... blahhhhhh

The mitchell ones look money (having gone to the site). Can't wait til they have more in stock. But I'm not sure if I'm willing to spend 1G on a bag. 500-600 is already a lot.

[JPV]

Hi Joel

first of all, thanks for this excellent review.

Second: You've infected me with the saddleback desease. I badly want one. Its going to be awful expensive to get this thing to germany, but...well I'll just have to wait a little, save some money and then...

;)

I am very interessted for the second part of your review...

cheers
J.P.

[Ashy]

Its going to be awful expensive to get this thing to germany, but...well I'll just have to wait a little, save some money and then...

Indeed, it is. It's about 50$ shipping costs for their Messenger Bag to Germany + about 76$ (3% on the actual value plus 19% VAT) custom duties. Total of 470$ for their Messenger Bag.



Bear the costs in mind when placing an order JPV.

[JPV]

@Ashley: exactly my calculation. you are right on the percntages, at least its the same I found out. Thanks for your advice

[bbuehler10]

It is a shame that the Saddleback company has to ship their hides across the border to Mexico for them to be stitched into bags.

Have you seen the Colonel Littleton line:
http://www.colonellittleton.com/
also available at Orvis.

[fidjit]

There may be a custom B&B spec version available soon. :thumbup:

Hokay, was thinking of biting the bullet on a Saddleback Large Bifold, but then found this................

More information please sir :biggrin1:

[SRock]

Hokay, was thinking of biting the bullet on a Saddleback Large Bifold, but then found this................

More information please sir :biggrin1:

I forgot that Joel was looking into this. Good idea on holding out for his response! :thumbup1:

[blackfoot]

I forgot that Joel was looking into this. Good idea on holding out for his response! :thumbup1:

I have been wanting a new wallet and am waiting to see how this goes too.

[JVLII]

I pick up my bag from Mitchell tomorrow...!! I dropped in about 2 weeks ago as I was looking for a briefcase and I knew nothing about them, even though I used to have a company right across the street! Very stealth presence in the Third Ward area of Milwaukee.

So as I was looking at the FEW new briefcases that David keeps in stock I liked them a ton, but wasn't ready to spend the cash on one. I then saw what looked like a nice old distressed one and said, "I'll take that one!"....ahhhhh sorry sir, that one is not for sale came the reply from David...damnit, but that's the one I want!..too bad..."but come upstairs I have a great piece of hide we dug out from under a pile a few days ago that you might like".

So, again, I had no idea what to expect as I'd never really heard of Mitchell and we get to the third floor and it's like the last scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark with rows and rows of leather waiting to be used. I got the entire history of the company his father started (sadly passed last year) and how the company was built. Heard about Bernardo and then David pulled out the piece he had in mind for me. It took 2 seconds to realize this find and I said "that's perfect, make me a briefcase!" (realizing that the last thing I needed was a thousand dollar briefcase!)

Anyway this briefcase to me solidifies my belief in supporting local, buying local, even if it means spending more to acquire it. See, Milwaukee's old stalwart industries was tanning, but we've lost thousands of tannery jobs in Mil over the last decade, to both China and Mexico, so I guess I wanted to do my part....enough of the rant.

I'll post pics tomorrow!!

[Isaac]

I cant wait to see it. Great story too

[joel]

I have been wanting a new wallet and am waiting to see how this goes too.

Nick is working on it, sounds like it's going to be a go.

[fidjit]

Nick is working on it, sounds like it's going to be a go.

Any time frame Joel ???

[JVLII]

Ok here we go-couldn't be happier with my Mitchell and it made the top of the page on the website....

http://mitchell-leather.com/Inventory_Briefcases.html

Wooo Hooo!

[Isaac]

That is absolutely lovely. It looks like it has been around for ages, and im sure it will as well.

[TSWebster]

Reading Joel's review of the Mitchell Classic Briefcase and looking at the stunning photographs of his test case made me quickly decide that I wanted one and given that the Australian dollar is at historic highs it seemed like a good time to make such a purchase.

So I got in contact with Dave Mitchell via email and started to work out the specifics of what I wanted and in passing made reference to the fact that the colour of his Document Briefcase was pretty much what I wanted.

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/document_briefcase_small_ulye.jpg

He replied that this is a particularly stiff variety of leather and that working with it was something he had not attempted before on a full size briefcase but that he was willing to try but a few changes would be necessary. Being unadventurous on this particular occasion I said that I'd rather just go with a regular hide than try out a whole new design. Dave said that it wouldn't be a problem but that he was going to have to finish a few other orders and should be able to get started on my order in about a week, so I made my deposit and sat back to wait it out. Well a few days pass and Dave contacts me and says that he went ahead and tried making a Classic Briefcase in the 'Glazed Italian' leather that he thought was to stiff to work with that its currently listed on his website as in stock and that if I want it I can have it for the previously agreed price of my standard briefcase order.

Well I took one look at the pictures and knew that I just had to have this case so I reply that yes I'll take it. So after sorting out shipping (curse you UPS never again damn you) it was in my hands inside of a week and it is utterly magnificent. I tend to believe that I am a buyer of quality things, that I buy items that will last, but this one puts any other such purchases I have made look almost shabby it is just perfect, the finish is perfect, the weight distribution is amazing no matter what you put in it the bag feels comfortable in your hand or hanging over your shoulder as well as looking unique and making the whole room smell of fresh leather. This is fast becoming one of my favourite belongings.

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/dark_italian_glazed_brown_classic.jpg

[SRock]

Reading Joel's review of the Mitchell Classic Briefcase and looking at the stunning photographs of his test case made me quickly decide that I wanted one and given that the Australian dollar is at historic highs it seemed like a good time to make such a purchase.

So I got in contact with Dave Mitchell via email and started to work out the specifics of what I wanted and in passing made reference to the fact that the colour of his Document Briefcase was pretty much what I wanted.

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/document_briefcase_small_ulye.jpg

He replied that this is a particularly stiff variety of leather and that working with it was something he had not attempted before on a full size briefcase but that he was willing to try but a few changes would be necessary. Being unadventurous on this particular occasion I said that I'd rather just go with a regular hide than try out a whole new design. Dave said that it wouldn't be a problem but that he was going to have to finish a few other orders and should be able to get started on my order in about a week, so I made my deposit and sat back to wait it out. Well a few days pass and Dave contacts me and says that he went ahead and tried making a Classic Briefcase in the 'Glazed Italian' leather that he thought was to stiff to work with that its currently listed on his website as in stock and that if I want it I can have it for the previously agreed price of my standard briefcase order.

Well I took one look at the pictures and knew that I just had to have this case so I reply that yes I'll take it. So after sorting out shipping (curse you UPS never again damn you) it was in my hands inside of a week and it is utterly magnificent. I tend to believe that I am a buyer of quality things, that I buy items that will last, but this one puts any other such purchases I have made look almost shabby it is just perfect, the finish is perfect, the weight distribution is amazing no matter what you put in it the bag feels comfortable in your hand or hanging over your shoulder as well as looking unique and making the whole room smell of fresh leather. This is fast becoming one of my favourite belongings.

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/dark_italian_glazed_brown_classic.jpg

Tom, the Mitchell looks fantastic!!!

[budder]

Tom, would you post pics? I've been emailing Dave for a while, trying to get my briefcase finalized,and would really appreciate it.

[TSWebster]

Dave has put pictures back up:

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/dark_italian_glazed_brown_classic_5lsl.jpg

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/top_view_classic_italian_glazed_l14h.jpg

[SRock]

Dave has put pictures back up:

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/dark_italian_glazed_brown_classic_5lsl.jpg

http://www.mitchell-leather.com/images/top_view_classic_italian_glazed_l14h.jpg

That really is a great looking briefcase, Tom! :thumbup:

[Againsttheflow]

That really is a great looking briefcase, Tom! :thumbup:

Agreed! The Mitchell is a beauty. :thumbup1:

[TSWebster]

:a30:

So how have those first 6 months been? :biggrin1:

[joel]

:a30:

So how have those first 6 months been? :biggrin1:

I'll start working on part two in June, but so far so good. The Mitchell has stood out as a being the clear pick of the litter. Even when cost is factored in, the tremendous quality of the leather, the impeccable stitching and the simply world class design stand out as the clear differentiator. There's not a case, at ANY price, designed better than the mitchell.

The saddleback has proven to be a nice bag and is clearly a quality piece, but it's just too darn big/bulky. It's wide at the bottom, and more narrow at the top, and the excessive hardware all over the place adds unnecessary weight, and makes it look more like a day bag, than a classy, or classic briefcase. Nothing wrong with this from a style perspective, but from a practicality perspective, the bag is just way too bulky/heavy for day to day use. If you do actually load it up to capacity, unless it's with feathers, or something equally light (maybe a shirt) you're likely looking at it being around 50+ lbs. When it's not full (which is 90% of the time) it's a bit unwieldily. Really this bag makes a tremendous light travel/adventure bag, which seems to be more its intention. As an out and out briefcase, it's just too bulky and hardware laden. A gentleman I work with has had a saddleback for a few years - and the first time I met him I had the Mitchell sitting on my desk and he immediately remarked "Wow, that's a gorgeous bag." He's now planning a trip to Milwaukee to go pick out the leather for a Mitchell in person. Nothing wrong with the saddleback, it's a great bag, and it's quite a bit less expensive... but toe to toe, it's out classed by the Mitchell in design, leather quality, stitching quality/accuracy, easy of use, etc.

The Hlaska leaves much to be desired. While it fits my slim/sleek round-edged macbook pro with ease, my 15" Lenovo W500 barely fits and it's quite difficult to manipulate the zipper around its edges. Also, it's lack of pockets (with the only interior pocket being unable to fit a laptop power supply, which makes it somewhat worthless) and inability to expand/accordion make it narrowly focused. It's certainly nice looking and when my iPad finally shows up from Apple, might make a good iPad case, as the iPad will be small enough to allow sufficient real estate for paperwork, etc.

The Solo is extremely functional, and makes for a surprisingly nice case. With that said, it's showing the most wear (admittedly, the Hlaska isn't getting as much use as the others though, so it could be a tie - and over the next 6 months might change as the Hlaska sees more use with the iPad). Net-net on the solo seems to be - it's a superb case for very little money, but you're looking at a couple of years use out of it, before it starts to look ratty or falls apart, which given it's price tag, it's a big deal. Consider you can get five Solo cases for the price of the next case up in this comparison - and they offer cases with rolling wheels, airport approve laptop "quick check" inserts, etc.

So far, the two clear bags i'd shell out my money for in a heart-beat would be the the Solo, and the Mitchell. The solo being practical, downright "inexpensive" option which offers a-typical features and the Mitchell being the "pinnacle" - leaving nothing to be desired, and being completely bespoke, allowing you to customize every color, closure, leather type, etc.

[fidjit]

There may be a custom B&B spec version available soon. :thumbup:

I'm guessing this will be released this week since I hadn't heard anything and bought a non B&B one !!! :lol:

[SRock]

I'm giving in. I'm ordering a Mitchell (modified version of the classic).

[TSWebster]

Awesome :thumbup:

You will love it Rob.

[Doc4]

The saddleback has proven to be a nice bag and is clearly a quality piece, but it's just too darn big/bulky. It's wide at the bottom, and more narrow at the top, and the excessive hardware all over the place adds unnecessary weight, and makes it look more like a day bag, than a classy, or classic briefcase. Nothing wrong with this from a style perspective, but from a practicality perspective, the bag is just way too bulky/heavy for day to day use. If you do actually load it up to capacity, unless it's with feathers, or something equally light (maybe a shirt) you're likely looking at it being around 50+ lbs. When it's not full (which is 90% of the time) it's a bit unwieldily. Really this bag makes a tremendous light travel/adventure bag, which seems to be more its intention. As an out and out briefcase, it's just too bulky and hardware laden. A gentleman I work with has had a saddleback for a few years - and the first time I met him I had the Mitchell sitting on my desk and he immediately remarked "Wow, that's a gorgeous bag." He's now planning a trip to Milwaukee to go pick out the leather for a Mitchell in person. Nothing wrong with the saddleback, it's a great bag, and it's quite a bit less expensive... but toe to toe, it's out classed by the Mitchell in design, leather quality, stitching quality/accuracy, easy of use, etc.



I have a "slim" saddleback briefcase, so much thinner than the full-blown model. I got it specifically as a "bicycle/travel" briefcase. During the summer I usually bike to/from work, and occasionally have to drive out of town for business too. So I was looking for a rugged briefcase that I could carry home on my bike without worrying about it getting rained on &c. I wanted to avoid the modern nylon versions, and get something classic in leather/canvas. Initally, I had hoped to transport it by securing it pannier-like to my rear rack on my bike, but that's a bit too awkward so I use the strap to carry it on my back, which has worked well so far.

I share the concern about too much hardware. My briefcase has eleven :blink::blink: D-rings, where all I need is three (and five would no doubt suffice for 99% of the population.) There are three at each top corner, two at each bottom corner, and one big one in the middle of the top behind the handle. Really, you need the one big one near the handle and one at each bottom corner to convert it into a backpack, and one at each top corner to attach the shoulder strap (although I'd never use it that way.)

If saddleback were to tweak the thin briefcase a bit by removing the exess 6 D-rings, and using a less super-shiny hardware for the remaining D-rings (a nice matte brass that would take a patina over time would be stunning) they would significantly improve this good item.

[dougr]

As someone who takes good care but uses top quality items, this was an excellent post. I traveled corporately for many years and still have some of my vintage quality brief cases without the slightest idea of why I am keeping them other than they seem like old friends. Thanks for taking the time to show the process, detail, and selections.

[SRock]

The Mitchell has stood out as a being the clear pick of the litter. Even when cost is factored in, the tremendous quality of the leather, the impeccable stitching and the simply world class design stand out as the clear differentiator. There's not a case, at ANY price, designed better than the mitchell.

:thumbup1::thumbup1:

Statements like these are why I decided to go with Mitchell as well. I decided in July that I was going to nail down one of these cases. I started talking with Dave Mitchell via email a few months back. I had a request that they hadn't ever been able to accommodate... I needed silver buckles, snaps, closures etc. I had both personal and professional reasons for this. Initially, he told me that he could only offer his cases with brass fixtures. I did a little research for him and connected him with some local shops that did quality plating work and the journey began. Dozens of emails and a few phone calls later and my Mitchell will be shipping this Monday! I can't wait. I'll be the first and only to own a custom Mitchell featuring polished nickel fixtures.

Once my case arrives I'll be sure to post a few pics here as well as an extensive review of my own.

I can't wait!

[SRock]

I got confirmation today that my Mitchell has indeed been shipped. Now the miserable wait begins!

BTW, Joel, several of us are anxiously awaiting your follow up comparo after 6+ months of use!

[joel]

I got confirmation today that my Mitchell has indeed been shipped. Now the miserable wait begins!

BTW, Joel, several of us are anxiously awaiting your follow up comparo after 6+ months of use!

Nag, Nag, Nag :lol:

Seriously though - i've reached a few road blocks that are slowing the process down a wee-bit.

1.) I tend to use/carry the Mitchell substantially more than the other bags.
2.) I have a new work laptop (17" MacBook Pro) which doesn't fit in one of the bags, so i've had to outsource testing of that bag to my wife.
3.) My daily driver changed from a 4 door sedan to a 2 door convertible, and frankly the Saddleback takes up most of the trunk, so I have to "pre-plan" around using it.

The reader's digest version is...

1.) Mitchell - clearly the superior bag. It's been used nearly every day, has been in dozens of business trips, and looks/feels no different than the day it first arrived. I'm sure this case will be around longer than I. As absurd as this sounds, I think they're actually worth (from a value perspective) more than their asking price. I truly think if you did you part to take care of it (regular cleanings/conditionings 1-3 times per year) and weren't abusive to the bag, it could realistically provide 40+ years of service (and quite a few of the original bags have been reported to be fine after 30 years - and still counting). When you figure, if you purchased this bag fresh out of college (assuming you could muster/stomach the cost), when you retired in your 60's you'd have still been using the bag you purchased when you started your career. Pretty impressive. The key differentiator between this and the saddleback however would be you'd have used this bag for 40+ years with no objections/complaints worth mentioning and no "it'd be nice if's." 10X more expensive than a silo? Yep... but i'd rather have one of these and shockingly enough, I think it's worth the money.
2.) Silo - Nice, super practical, light case. Looks like it would last about 3, possibly 4 years of hard daily use. Nick's been using this daily and he's REALLY hard products (and neglects them - no leather conditioner for this case) and its holding up well. Clasps are a light duty, and there's a good chance this will become the first failure point. I hate to say it, but for my use and for what I do with a briefcase I would rather have 5 of these (same cost), to one saddleback.
3.) Saddleback - just plumb too bulky and hardware laden. Hardware (at least for me) gets caught on things and looks to unprofessional. To each their own, but using this bag tends to be more of a chore, and with use, the leather hasn't softened up at all as I would have liked/expected so it's quite rigid and awkward. Would this be a killer adventure bag? Hands down it would win that contest, but for us "daily desk drivers" it's just way too much bag. I'm sure the thinner saddleback briefcase would have faired better in this test, but it did not exist at the time this review was initiated.
4.) Hlaska - Great people, cool designs, totally impractical. First of all, it only has one, small internal zippered pocket which can't even fit most laptop computer supplies, can only fit a SMALL, round edged 15 inch laptop, and can really only function as a 1 purposed laptop or document holder. Ability to handle daily wear and tear is also questionable. The cotton interior is taking a bit of a beating, and the exterior shows scratches easily. Also, the full length zipper is annoying, and cheap (it jams/balks a lot).

[blackfoot]

Nag, Nag, Nag :lol:

Seriously though - i've reached a few road blocks that.......

Thank you very much! I really appreciate this review. :thumbup1:

[SRock]

Nag, Nag, Nag :lol:

Seriously though - i've reached a few road blocks that are slowing the process down a wee-bit.

1.) I tend to use/carry the Mitchell substantially more than the other bags.
2.) I have a new work laptop (17" MacBook Pro) which doesn't fit in one of the bags, so i've had to outsource testing of that bag to my wife.
3.) My daily driver changed from a 4 door sedan to a 2 door convertible, and frankly the Saddleback takes up most of the trunk, so I have to "pre-plan" around using it.

The reader's digest version is...

1.) Mitchell - clearly the superior bag. It's been used nearly every day, has been in dozens of business trips, and looks/feels no different than the day it first arrived. I'm sure this case will be around longer than I. As absurd as this sounds, I think they're actually worth (from a value perspective) more than their asking price. I truly think if you did you part to take care of it (regular cleanings/conditionings 1-3 times per year) and weren't abusive to the bag, it could realistically provide 40+ years of service (and quite a few of the original bags have been reported to be fine after 30 years - and still counting). When you figure, if you purchased this bag fresh out of college (assuming you could muster/stomach the cost), when you retired in your 60's you'd have still been using the bag you purchased when you started your career. Pretty impressive. The key differentiator between this and the saddleback however would be you'd have used this bag for 40+ years with no objections/complaints worth mentioning and no "it'd be nice if's." 10X more expensive than a silo? Yep... but i'd rather have one of these and shockingly enough, I think it's worth the money.
2.) Silo - Nice, super practical, light case. Looks like it would last about 3, possibly 4 years of hard daily use. Nick's been using this daily and he's REALLY hard products (and neglects them - no leather conditioner for this case) and its holding up well. Clasps are a light duty, and there's a good chance this will become the first failure point. I hate to say it, but for my use and for what I do with a briefcase I would rather have 5 of these (same cost), to one saddleback.
3.) Saddleback - just plumb too bulky and hardware laden. Hardware (at least for me) gets caught on things and looks to unprofessional. To each their own, but using this bag tends to be more of a chore, and with use, the leather hasn't softened up at all as I would have liked/expected so it's quite rigid and awkward. Would this be a killer adventure bag? Hands down it would win that contest, but for us "daily desk drivers" it's just way too much bag. I'm sure the thinner saddleback briefcase would have faired better in this test, but it did not exist at the time this review was initiated.
4.) Hlaska - Great people, cool designs, totally impractical. First of all, it only has one, small internal zippered pocket which can't even fit most laptop computer supplies, can only fit a SMALL, round edged 15 inch laptop, and can really only function as a 1 purposed laptop or document holder. Ability to handle daily wear and tear is also questionable. The cotton interior is taking a bit of a beating, and the exterior shows scratches easily. Also, the full length zipper is annoying, and cheap (it jams/balks a lot).

Thanks Joel, it may be the Readers Digest version but your point is understood and appreciated. I suspected this was what we may hear in the end based off of others reviews of these products as well.


Thank you very much! I really appreciate this review. :thumbup1:

+1, I knew if we collectively nagged him enough we'd get something! :lol:

[fidjit]

Nag, Nag, Nag :lol:


3.) Saddleback - just plumb too bulky and hardware laden. Hardware (at least for me) gets caught on things and looks to unprofessional. To each their own, but using this bag tends to be more of a chore, and with use, the leather hasn't softened up at all as I would have liked/expected so it's quite rigid and awkward. Would this be a killer adventure bag? Hands down it would win that contest, but for us "daily desk drivers" it's just way too much bag. I'm sure the thinner saddleback briefcase would have faired better in this test, but it did not exist at the time this review was initiated.


I must admit while I love my Saddleback Medium brief it is mighty heavy. I walk probably about 4-5 kilometres a day for work and you can tell that it's there.

I've even suggested a couple of ideas re a strap to take the pressure of your shoulder/back and onto your hips.

You certainly get a lot of comments about them though.

Maybe I'm just a wuss, but for travelling I'm tending towards a nylon bag. Might stop into Timbuk2 when I'm over in San Francisco to see their range, they look like exactly what I need. I like the Crumplers down here but they're just too expensive for what they are and these days more tended towards yuppie notebook bags.

I've never had any of the hardware get stuck on anything or give me any trouble except for the extra weight ( I've thought about chopping some of it off ).

As a backpack it's actually really comfortable, but that eliminates my travel requirements, the ability to easily swing the bag round satchel style to get my drink/camera, book etc.

My SB will remain my everyday work bag ( laptop, diary, lunch ), but I'm looking ( again ) for a lighter , more versatile travel satchel.

At the moment I'm still using an Australian made satchel I've had for probably about 10 years or more that's been all round SE Asia with me and still while starting to get a bit ratty, looks like it's got quite a few more years left in it. It's got no padding, hip/third arm stabiliser, compressions straps. Nothing fancy but ideal !!!

And I though the SB would eliminate my MBAD ( Man Bag Acquisition Disorder :biggrin1: )

[blackfoot]

And I though the SB would eliminate my MBAD ( Man Bag Acquisition Disorder :biggrin1: )

There is a reference I haven't heard around here in a while. :thumbup:

[mretzloff]

The guys over at Saddleback must read Badger & Blade a lot. Since this article has been posted, they have removed Mitchell from their rivals page (http://www.saddlebackleather.com/10-our-rivals).

[SRock]

The guys over at Saddleback must read Badger & Blade a lot. Since this article has been posted, they have removed Mitchell from their rivals page (http://www.saddlebackleather.com/10-our-rivals).

To be honest I don't think it is fair for them to consider themselves rivals with Mitchell. Saddleback is a mass produced product where is Mitchell is a made to order when ordered product. That said, both make nice products though in my mind they are suited for different purposes.

[SRock]

My Mitchell has arrived! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=180115)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/5240039925_a33e4b1e25_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5126/5240476186_66c08ccc81_z.jpg

Click the link above for more pictures (many more) and my full review.

Joel, my AD's thank you. This is one that was totally worth it, if not even more!

[adamant]

Has there been a 1 year update made yet? (Will it be on this thread?)

You started my addiction to saddleback leather a year ago. I now own a small gadget pouch and small wallet in chestnut. I just ordered a large satchel in tobacco, another small and a medium gadget pouch (in DCB and tobacco).

[Isaac]

Ive had my Saddleback for over a year. Its a great bag, and I receive a great deal of compliments, but I think if I had the extra cash now, I would buy a Mitchell.

[Jeffc]

Great post Joel. I cant seem to find parts 2 or 3. Can someone point me in the right direction - thanks

[profsaffel]

Great post Joel. I cant seem to find parts 2 or 3. Can someone point me in the right direction - thanks

I'm glad you revived this thread. When it comes to a leather man bag or satchel, "I'm in the market, as it were."

Still, my salary vs my tastes in these quality products don't seem to match well. I could eat for or a month, or I could buy a leather bag. Hmmmm. No, it's not that bad, more of a convincing my wife that such a purchase is worth it. That's the problem with SWMBO is also the keeper of the finances.

However, I must ask for comparison: "any other quality companies online similar to saddleback that we should be aware of?"

[ChiefWahoo]

I remember finding this thread back before I was a member. I have the Solo bag. Interesting that Joel noted the hardware and a three to four year lifespan on this bag. I bought mine in the fall of 2007 and after winter-only usage, one of the large metal loops holding the shoulder strap came loose in the fall of 2010. The pin had unwound itself a few times and I'd screwed it back in, but it finally gave way just as I tossed the bag into my trunk. I contacted Solo and they sent me a pack of redesigned loops with full threading. They also suggested putting a thread lock material on them. I added a dab of the red LocTite (http://www.loctiteproducts.com/threadlockers.shtml) to the pins. Unfortunately, they only included three in the pack, which is weird because there are four loops on the top (two for the shoulder strap, two for the handle).

Otherwise, the bag has been great. I've used nothing on the bag to prolong its health yet it looks great to my eyes. The soft leather tends to hide the abuse more than I expected. That said, I only carry it in the cool months. I switch to a laptop back pack in the summer because a) it looks more casual and b) I tend to go a lot more places after work where I throw the bag around and it would get much more beat up. The back pack has far more/better padding for this and I don't care what it looks like since it was free. Given year-round use, this might be a little rougher by now. But overall, I can't complain. I paid $80 on Amazon through a third-party reseller and I've gotten that and more out of it.

[SRock]

My Mitchell has arrived! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=180115)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/5240039925_a33e4b1e25_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5126/5240476186_66c08ccc81_z.jpg

Click the link above for more pictures (many more) and my full review.

Joel, my AD's thank you. This is one that was totally worth it, if not even more!

After carrying this thing for so long I can tell you it looks as good as the day I received it. I can haul a ton of stuff comfortably and it turns heads everywhere I go!

[Jeffc]

I finally bought a Mitchell. Chocolate brown with Black buckle straps, Black on the inside with Chocolate brown trim. Looks good - great service from Dave as everyone has mentioned. I will post pictures if anyone is interested.

[dougr]

Joel, thank you for the chuckle of the morning "3.) My daily driver changed from a 4 door sedan to a 2 door convertible, and frankly the Saddleback takes up most of the trunk, so I have to "pre-plan" around using it. "

....we had a '71 Corvette Convertable stick shift and had to pop the back of the top and rear cover to get the grocery bags in. Our daughter had to sit on the middle hump...long before the seat belt laws. Before that we had a MG 1100 (1964?) which was a box and held more that the Olds Cutlass when we moved our belongings. doug

[eastomjac]

nice bags,but ill stick with my zero

[razumny]

Well, Joel, you have sold me on a Mitchell. Pending SWMBO approval, I will be ordering one very soon.

[Isaac]

I hate it when this thread pops up. I wish I had a Mitchell, but do love my rugged ability of my saddleback

[Dripp]

I'm not sure if this timing is good or not, but my ebay special I bought 6 years ago finally died last week and I need a new bag. I've looked at the mithchel in the past with admiration. I'm also very interested in a M&W traveller. Really I just want a classic bag made with horween leather that will last, and will carry all of my stuff. That probably is indeed the mitchell, but that's a big pill to swallow.

[Compulsion]

I wish the Saddleback Thin Briefcase could have made it into this comparison. I didn't see this thread until today and I would have liked to see how it compared.

I have the Medium Thin briefcase and it is perfect for my needs. It holds my Lenovo W510 15.2" laptop (the same size as joel was using in his comparison), an iPad, two A5 notebooks and my penwrap containing 7 pens. That's all I need to carry on a given day.

[joel]

Well, Joel, you have sold me on a Mitchell. Pending SWMBO approval, I will be ordering one very soon.

You won't regret it!

[joel]

I wish the Saddleback Thin Briefcase could have made it into this comparison. I didn't see this thread until today and I would have liked to see how it compared.

I have the Medium Thin briefcase and it is perfect for my needs. It holds my Lenovo W510 15.2" laptop (the same size as joel was using in his comparison), an iPad, two A5 notebooks and my penwrap containing 7 pens. That's all I need to carry on a given day.

Me too - but it still wouldn't have won. The build quality, design, stitching, attention to detail and leather quality are not on par with the Mitchell.

[cpeter47]

Wow this site is not good for the bank account.

[drawonme]

If anyone would enjoy a beautiful, rare, saddle leather Ghurka briefcase that sold for over $1200 20 years ago, I would send it for a contribution to our local foodbank.

[lestergillis]

Gentlemen,

After shopping around for briefcases I think I have settled on the Saddleback but I do have some questions since I cannot physically put my hands on one to find out for myself. Will the large size fit under the seat in front of me on most planes? I travel a lot and I carry my luggage as well as a briefcase on board. The large size seems to be the smallest one to fit my 15-1/4 x 11 laptop and all the other items that usually carry.
Also, does anyone have suggestions for organizing things inside the cavernous interior? I've thought about buying a couple of these...
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Universal-Travel-Electronics-Accessories/dp/B002VPE1QG/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1356704436&sr=8-12&keywords=amazonbasics

Joel, this post is several years old but it is the most informative review of bags I have found on the web. My hat off to you, sir. :thumbup:

[vegasvics]

Will the large size fit under the seat in front of me on most planes? I travel a lot and I carry my luggage as well as a briefcase on board.

Not in coach

[krisbarger]

I have the saddkeback large briefcase, medium water bag,large water bag, 2 medium travel cases, my wife has the large tote,wallet, business card holder... I have had these for about 1 year and the experience is amazing. There products cannot be beat.

I'm a convert!!

[avsmusic1]

been seeing a fair amount of saddleback love around here lately so i wanted to bump this up for those considering taking the plunge into briefcase bliss

[cadomniel]

I've had my dark coffee brown saddleback briefcase - medium size for about two and a half years.
I only use it on trips mostly and agree with other posters in this thread the main negative it has is that it is bulky and heavy. The buckles can be a pain when trying to get stuff out, ie airport security, or meetings with clients.
Other than that the bag has been awesome and got tons of compliments.
the medium bag won't fit my 15.4'' laptop but my 13'' macbook fits.

I might get a medium thin briefcase in carbon black to use more as a go to daily briefcase

[JeffJ]

The Solo bag lasts about a year with constant use and moderate travel. The magnetic clips on the non buckle side ripped out of the fabric from the strength of the magnets. It is a bag that looks great and is very functional.