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wakefieldma
11-19-2009, 11:57 AM
Hi everyone-I am really interested in learning more about Vie-Long shaving brushes from Spain-I couldn't find a review in the reviews section. Has anyone used them? What has your experience been?

Thanks!

Eelco
11-19-2009, 11:39 PM
Hi everyone-I am really interested in learning more about Vie-Long shaving brushes from Spain-I couldn't find a review in the reviews section. Has anyone used them? What has your experience been?

Thanks!

Nice & cheap brushes.

http://www.vielong.com/En/Inicio.html

75573
Left = Vie-Long Badger + Hors Hair shaving brush Ref.14832.
Middel = Vie-Long Pure Badger shaving brush Ref.16735. (2 band )
Right = Vie-Long Badger + Hors Hair shaving brush Wood handle Ref.14095

I like this Silver Tip Badger shaving brush ! (€70):
75574

Regards,
Eelco

wakefieldma
11-20-2009, 02:35 PM
Thanks for the pics! They do look nice...My wife is from Spain, so for sentimental reasons I feel like I should try to integrate as many Spanish products as possible into my shaving kit! Unfortunately I am in the US and it doesn't seem very easy to buy their brushes here-It looks like all the sources on-line are in Europe so the shipping will probably be pretty exorbitant. I will just have to wait for my next trip to Spain!

Thanks again for posting the pics-

Eelco
11-20-2009, 04:40 PM
In Spain El Corte Ingles sale them (you wife knows)
http://www.elcorteingles.es/

In Canada / USA: http://www.fendrihan.com/vielong-m-52.html

Regards,
Eelco

andrew98
11-20-2009, 04:51 PM
They sure do look nice. If you're looking for a nice Spanish soap, cjmatz, try La Toja shave stick. I love it, and I'm a self-confessed soap addict.

-Andy

Eelco
11-20-2009, 05:10 PM
They sure do look nice. If you're looking for a nice Spanish soap, cjmatz, try La Toja shave stick. I love it, and I'm a self-confessed soap addict.

-Andy
I'm a self-confessed soap addict. :lol::lol:
I am not alone :ouch1::out:
Eelco:001_rolle

andrew98
11-20-2009, 05:35 PM
There really does need to be a confessional/recovering addicts/help and support group forum on B&B.

-Andy

Eelco
11-20-2009, 05:46 PM
There really does need to be a confessional/recovering addicts/help and support group forum on B&B.

-Andy
YES ! And I think some Plisson (hard drugs) addicts need special help...
... Hospital treatment, preferably in a special drug unit... :001_tt2:
Eelco

wakefieldma
11-21-2009, 01:31 PM
They sure do look nice. If you're looking for a nice Spanish soap, cjmatz, try La Toja shave stick. I love it, and I'm a self-confessed soap addict.

-Andy

Thanks-I need to try that-I really like the Magno bath soap (I think is also made by La Toja?) so I need to try the shave stick, it seems like it is really well-regarded here on B&B-

wakefieldma
11-21-2009, 01:33 PM
In Spain El Corte Ingles sale them (you wife knows)
http://www.elcorteingles.es/

In Canada / USA: http://www.fendrihan.com/vielong-m-52.html

Regards,
Eelco

Thanks for the information Eelco-My wife and I like shopping at El Corte Ingles, I guess the last time I was there was before I got into wet shaving so I didn't check out their selection!

du212
01-15-2010, 08:38 AM
About VieLong: They use european badger hair in their badger brushes, it's the only brush maker that uses only european badger, Plisson uses european and chinese badger. I have receipt a message from the manager of the VieLong company confirming me this.

Eelco you have 2 european badger brushes now, the Plisson and the VieLong, and VieLong uses the same quality hair as Plisson in its top brushes: 2 band white, 2 band silvertip and 3 band silvertip

andrew98
01-15-2010, 06:21 PM
YES ! And I think some Plisson (hard drugs) addicts need special help...
... Hospital treatment, preferably in a special drug unit... :001_tt2:
Eelco

:lol:


... VieLong uses the same quality hair as Plisson in its top brushes: 2 band white, 2 band silvertip and 3 band silvertip

:w00t:

-Andy

Loner16
01-16-2010, 05:11 AM
I've never heard of the VieLong brushes, but that should not come as a surprise. I'm still learning and there are alot of products I've never heard of..

Those brushes certainly are beautiful, though...

earl of St Andrews
01-16-2010, 05:29 AM
I am using a Vie Long bristle brush for 2 years and am happy with it. i looking forward to move to badger. when i go back to Spain in february I´ll have a closer look in El Corte Inglés.

And I have been using La Toja cream for years.The bar soap is excellent and I use it when I travel.

I bath with La Toja hidrotermal soap......Maybe I am a Tojadict?

earl of St Andrews
01-16-2010, 05:45 AM
Sorry I forgot to comment on the brush!!!!

The handle tends to crackle near the rim but does not affect the hair. I mean it doesn´t loose any more than usual. I shave every day and it really ithink it was good value.

icon
01-16-2010, 06:43 AM
I'm very curious about their horse hairs shaving brush, does someone use one here ?

ginhud
04-07-2010, 04:09 PM
bestgroomingtools.com has some good looking vie-long boar brushes in their list. Can anyone shed more info on these? Appreciate your sharing!

Bandik
04-07-2010, 04:31 PM
try the '' bullgoose''...

pauls51
04-07-2010, 06:27 PM
I'm in the process of deciding between a black badger Vie-Long and Rooney 2/1!

nathanb
04-07-2010, 10:09 PM
Has anyone used a Vie-Long horse hair brush? I noticed they have them available at bestgroomingtools and am curious about them. :biggrin1:

RCC
04-07-2010, 10:35 PM
I feel obliged to chime in.
I purchased a 16510 last month.
In my small den it is my favorite.
I believe the stories about it being Plisson like.
It is very smooth/plush and dense. It is not at all "scrubby"
I prefer it over my BK4, Shavemac silvertip, T&H/Rooney silvertip or Penchetta custom.
97562

torero
04-07-2010, 10:51 PM
Thanks for the information Eelco-My wife and I like shopping at El Corte Ingles, I guess the last time I was there was before I got into wet shaving so I didn't check out their selection!

In my opinion El Corte Ingles is a grat store, but they are quite expensive sometimes and their product range is not huge.

If you visit Spain soon (spring is a lovely season here) I'd recommend you seaching for them in small shops. Of course, only you're patient enough!

chicken neck
04-08-2010, 02:33 AM
In my opinion El Corte Ingles is a grat store, but they are quite expensive sometimes and their product range is not huge.

If you visit Spain soon (spring is a lovely season here) I'd recommend you seaching for them in small shops. Of course, only you're patient enough!

Can you recommend any stores in Madrid? Many thanks

du212
04-08-2010, 03:19 AM
In Madrid:


Montané: Vie Long, Myrsol, Floïd, La Toja and a lot of products for shaving you can buy a barber's chair....

Plaza de Herradores, 10. (next to calle Mayor)
Madrid


Peluquería Nuria : Trumper's, Edwin Jagger, Kent, Acqua di Genova, Floris,.....

Calle Lagasca, 42
Madrid

du212
04-08-2010, 03:23 AM
I feel obliged to chime in.
I purchased a 16510 last month.
In my small den it is my favorite.
I believe the stories about it being Plisson like.
It is very smooth/plush and dense. It is not at all "scrubby"
I prefer it over my BK4, Shavemac silvertip, T&H/Rooney silvertip or Penchetta custom.
97562
I know that this brush is made from European Badger because the owner of Vie-Long told it to me in an email,....it's not a story, the provider of badger hair is European (Russian) as Plisson, Compare the hairs and you can see the same hairs: Silvertip 3 band and Silvertip 2 band in Plissons and Vie Longs,....

torero
04-08-2010, 05:30 AM
In Madrid:


Montané: Vie Long, Myrsol, Floïd, La Toja and a lot of products for shaving you can buy a barber's chair....

Plaza de Herradores, 10. (next to calle Mayor)
Madrid


Peluquería Nuria : Trumper's, Edwin Jagger, Kent, Acqua di Genova, Floris,.....

Calle Lagasca, 42
Madrid


I'm glad you know some shops in Madrid, I don't live there and I don't.

theologist
04-08-2010, 07:03 AM
There really does need to be a confessional/recovering addicts/help and support group forum on B&B.

-Andy

I always thought B&B WAS that forum!

professorchaos
04-08-2010, 07:13 AM
try the bullgoose...

Who?

professorchaos
04-08-2010, 07:15 AM
Nice & cheap brushes.

http://www.vielong.com/En/Inicio.html

75573
Left = Vie-Long Badger + Hors Hair shaving brush Ref.14832.
Middel = Vie-Long Pure Badger shaving brush Ref.16735. (2 band )
Right = Vie-Long Badger + Hors Hair shaving brush Wood handle Ref.14095

I like this Silver Tip Badger shaving brush ! (€70):
75574

Regards,
Eelco

Good looking brushes. One of these days I plan to try one of the ones with horsehair.

RCC
04-08-2010, 09:01 AM
I know that this brush is made from European Badger because the owner of Vie-Long told it to me in an email,....it's not a story, the provider of badger hair is European (Russian) as Plisson, Compare the hairs and you can see the same hairs: Silvertip 3 band and Silvertip 2 band in Plissons and Vie Longs,....

Then that makes them an exceptional bargain.
thanks.

ezeman
04-14-2010, 11:29 AM
I just received the Horse Hair & Badger Hair Shaving Brush 14091 from Best Grooming. The order was placed on Saturday all I can say is the service was fantastic. The brush itself is a quality product and after cleaning it I worked up 2 lathers. The first was with a cream and all I can say is WOW! real quick and thick lather, and using a soap the results were equally fantastic. I'm very satisfied with the brush and I highly recommend it.

insomniac
04-14-2010, 11:35 AM
Sorry I forgot to comment on the brush!!!!

The handle tends to crackle near the rim but does not affect the hair. I mean it doesn´t loose any more than usual. I shave every day and it really ithink it was good value.

Hold on - the handle cracked? :scared:

SiR-ed8
05-15-2010, 05:25 PM
Nice & cheap brushes.

http://www.vielong.com/En/Inicio.html

75573
Left = Vie-Long Badger + Hors Hair shaving brush Ref.14832.
Middel = Vie-Long Pure Badger shaving brush Ref.16735. (2 band )
Right = Vie-Long Badger + Hors Hair shaving brush Wood handle Ref.14095

I like this Silver Tip Badger shaving brush ! (€70):
75574

Regards,
Eelco

Talk about price difference. The price of that 16910 is equivalent to ~86 thereabouts versus $109 here in US.

I was seriously considering that brush but just got 12315, 13061, 14833 and 16590 ( same handle as yours ). I was told it didn't have as much backbone as 16590 and that's what I opted for.

JPDyson
05-16-2010, 07:18 AM
I want to buy a Vie Long horsey. Just because, you know? But I feel the same way about nylon - just want one for the novelty. My badgers are my first love, and must-buy brushes keep popping up, so these others keep getting pushed down the list.

Bandik
05-16-2010, 08:31 AM
hi ! from Phil ( ' BullGoose" )-- I bought the Horsehair brush, liked it-- and ordered another one : with White badger.

SiR-ed8
05-17-2010, 04:21 AM
In Spain El Corte Ingles sale them (you wife knows)
http://www.elcorteingles.es/

In Canada / USA: http://www.fendrihan.com/vielong-m-52.html

Regards,
Eelco

Eelco,

I can't find anything on that first link. I'm interested in the 14832 as I have the 14833. Truth be told haven't broke mine in as much as I'd like to so may be hurting myself in long run. But what the hell...

Where did you acquire yours Amsterdam or online as well? Thanks

du212
05-17-2010, 04:42 AM
hi ! from Phil ( ' BullGoose" )-- I bought the Horsehair brush, liked it-- and ordered another one : with White badger.

Bullgoose is an excellent vendor :thumbup1:

renoles
05-17-2010, 05:10 AM
Bought one of the mixed badger and horsehair brushes a little while back and have given it some good use. Was a little concerned when I went through my initial de-funk/break-in method with the smell and the color of the lather (turned yellow-brown). Ran it through again and that cleared. This is a brush with a good deal of backbone, nice and scrubby on the face, but the knot isn't as dense as I'd like. That said, I'm considering buying a pure horsehair to try at some point in the none to distant future. They are an excellent value. :thumbup1:

Bandik
05-17-2010, 04:09 PM
" BullGoose " ( Phil )-- Has them, and SERVICE-- is EXELLENT !!

Aus8
05-17-2010, 04:44 PM
Take an eye here:

http://www.giftsandcare.com/es/catalogo/el-placer-del-afeitado.html

Aus8
05-17-2010, 04:46 PM
Eelco,

I can't find anything on that first link. I'm interested in the 14832 as I have the 14833. Truth be told haven't broke mine in as much as I'd like to so may be hurting myself in long run. But what the hell...

Where did you acquire yours Amsterdam or online as well? Thanks

Take an eye here:

http://www.giftsandcare.com/es/catalogo/el-placer-del-afeitado.html

SiR-ed8
05-17-2010, 08:13 PM
Thanks! Apparently you have to be careful when mousing over to the language conversion on their site otherwise it won't work.

Drawback is this:

We will deliver the order at the specified address. In the event that you are not available to recieve delivery, you are responsible to collect your order from the address advise by the currier company. You will be responsible for an administration costs of 4,75 € and this should be paid directly to the currier company when collecting your order.

http://giftsandcare.com/en/delivery-terms.html

Anyone in US order from them and paid the USPS fees?

drburt
05-18-2010, 09:50 AM
I got a Vie-Long horse hair brush from Phil at Bullgoose. I think it is a fine brush. It was a little funky at the start but that is not unusual. It lathers very well. Works well with both soap and cream. The tips feel rather soft but the hair has some good spring to it. It feels good on my face.

Burt

Wil Dorenbos
05-18-2010, 12:17 PM
I got a Vie-Long horse hair brush from Phil at Bullgoose. I think it is a fine brush. It was a little funky at the start but that is not unusual. It lathers very well. Works well with both soap and cream. The tips feel rather soft but the hair has some good spring to it. It feels good on my face.

Burt

Horse is my favourite :thumbup1:

malocchio
05-18-2010, 03:01 PM
you can find great spanish brushes at vivaeureka.com and aceros-de-hispania.com.....on aceros home page type in brochas de afeitar in the search box...

brucered
05-13-2012, 01:45 PM
bumping an old Vie-Long Thread.

currently looking for a badger, either 2 band or silvertip. my other option for a brush fell thru, so i'm now looking seriously at the Vie Long.

thoughts on these 2 and how they compare to other big named brushes (Simpson Best or Super, Thater, M&F Blonde Badger)

Silvertip 23/50 (almost looks 2 band the way it's set)
243389

2 Band (23/50, 23/52 or 23/55)
243395

bluesbishop
05-13-2012, 01:54 PM
I don't have one of there badgers..I have a horse hair, but if the badger compares in quality you will be very happy!!

edgerunner
05-13-2012, 06:08 PM
Here's my opinion for the record. Both share the same beautiful ergonomic handle design best suitable for face lathering. The knots are not alike at all. I have the Vie-Long 3-band LE edition from Phil which has the same hair type but it's denser than 16510. It's extremely soft and feels like a soft ball on the face. I requested my 2-band E16510 with a higher loft than 50 mm, and it measures 24/53 mm. The knot has very strong backbone, not very dense, and has very good flow through. It feels scritchy and a bit prickly when pushed more aggressively.

brucered
05-13-2012, 06:40 PM
Here's my opinion for the record. Both share the same beautiful ergonomic handle design best suitable for face lathering. The knots are not alike at all. I have the Vie-Long 3-band LE edition from Phil which has the same hair type but it's denser than 16510. It's extremely soft and feels like a soft ball on the face. I requested my 2-band E16510 with a higher loft than 50 mm, and it measures 24/53 mm. The knot has very strong backbone, not very dense, and has very good flow through. It feels scritchy and a bit prickly when pushed more aggressively.

thanks edge...i knew you had both, and we've PM'd a few times on them. i'm getting closer to choosing my next brush.

still waiting to hear back from 1 mfg and hope to hear this week. then i'll decide between the two.

your opinions and thoughts on my brush questions and posts weigh a lot with me, so they are greatly appreciated.

Sir_Eider
05-14-2012, 06:54 AM
My 50 cents:

I have several Vie&Long badger brushes and in my experience I found that:

- Silvertip-like hair is good, although not as soft than other brush makers. Works well both in 20 an 24mm. knots
- Two bands/white badger hair works better in 20mm. than 24mm. knots. I owned a personalized 16910 brush filled with a 20x50mm. two bands knot and is probably the best facelathering brush I have tested. A small brush with soft tips but a bit of prickness enough to attack properly hard soaps. The only con is that is a bit overpriced (you can get a Simpson). Most people think that in 24mm. two band this hair is too firm and pricky....

By the way, 16510-16910 are my preferred handles of all Vie&Long range, hehe

Cheers!

El-a-Menthol
05-14-2012, 08:38 AM
There are reviews.

My review:
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=211095&title=-vie-long-13071-horse-hair&cat=38
Others:
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=179203&title=vie-long-16726&cat=38
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=211018&title=11737c26quot-3bbombito-26quot-3b&cat=38
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=167158&title=vie-long-el-toro-ganso&cat=38
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=174958&title=vie-long-pro-horse-2fboar-brush-no-2&cat=38
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=175050&title=vie-long-pro-extra-horse-brown-no-1&cat=38
http://badgerandblade.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=176913&title=vie-long-pro-horse-brush&cat=38

They are the nr1 horse hair brush makers.

alabamalawyer
05-14-2012, 08:40 AM
I currently have the Vie Long Beehive brush that Phil sells. I have it in the dyed horsehair and the silvertip. The horsehair brush has soft tips with a little scritch. the silvertip is super soft but with nice backbone due the knot density and loft. The flow through on the silvertip has been very good, and the handle is comfortable with a nice weight Overall the brush has really impressed me. I would grade the softness of this silvertip in the range of Thater silvertips.

Amzimbo
05-14-2012, 02:42 PM
Blast and curse all of you! Reading this thread, especially the statements that V-L uses the same hair as Plisson, forced me - forced, I tell you - to go to Phil's site to get a badger beehive LE to go with my mixed badger and horse BGS LE.