Tie Knots

[Shane]

For those of us that wear ties often, as silly of a question as this may seem, do any of you gents prefer one knot over the other? My personal favorites are the Double Windsor, St. Andrew, Pratt, Hanover and Grantchester knots. I know that the knot you choose has to do with the type of collar that your shirt has, but these are just some of the ones I think look the neatest.

Shane

[castlecraver]

Oh yeah. Always Double Windsor. Simple, neat, and classic. Unsurpassed.

[letterk]

Double Windsor for me.

[AJCFD]

For those of us that wear ties often, as silly of a question as this may seem, do any of you gents prefer one knot over the other? My personal favorites are the Double Windsor, St. Andrew, Pratt, Hanover and Grantchester knots. I know that the knot you choose has to do with the type of collar that your shirt has, but these are just some of the ones I think look the neatest.

Shane

Knots have names? I've been wearing ties to work for 22 years and I've been using the same knot-after that long do I have the right to name my knot.

[htownmmm]

Knots have names? I've been wearing ties to work for 22 years and I've been using the same knot-after that long do I have the right to name my knot.


Yep!


Marty

[crowdog]

Double Windsor. I can tie it in about 10 seconds, it looks good, and comes out of a knot!!

Marty

[Henry Mien]

I like a Full English (different than Windsor see here (http://www.krawattenknoten.info/krawatten/Krawattenknoten/tieknot.html)).

I like it because:
*it gives a nice dimple
*The length of the tie moves naturally and isn't overly stiff
*I have good control over the tilt of the knot, sometimes I want an extremely straight knot, but often I like a little bit of a rascalish slant.
*I have fun tying it

[AJCFD]

Knots have names? I've been wearing ties to work for 22 years and I've been using the same knot-after that long do I have the right to name my knot.

I just found the name of my knot Four-in-Hand!

[chef8489]

I like a Full English (different than Windsor see here (http://www.krawattenknoten.info/krawatten/Krawattenknoten/tieknot.html)).

I like it because:
*it gives a nice dimple
*The length of the tie moves naturally and isn't overly stiff
*I have good control over the tilt of the knot, sometimes I want an extremely straight knot, but often I like a little bit of a rascalish slant.
*I have fun tying it

you beat me to the link.

[zachster]

I just found the name of my knot Four-in-Hand!

That's the one I've always used, too. It serve me well no matter what sort of collar, or width of tie, I'm using. Never bothered to learn the other knots...

[rtaylor61]

I hate ties. I really hate ties. Clip on for me! :biggrin:

Double windsor!

Randy

[jfl]

I like a Full English (different than Windsor see here (http://www.krawattenknoten.info/krawatten/Krawattenknoten/tieknot.html)).

I like it because:
*it gives a nice dimple
*The length of the tie moves naturally and isn't overly stiff
*I have good control over the tilt of the knot, sometimes I want an extremely straight knot, but often I like a little bit of a rascalish slant.
*I have fun tying it

Thanks for the link. I'm missing the difference between the English and Windsor. Somehow they look exactly the same to me. What nuance am I missing?

I primarily use the half Windsor, slightly smaller knot than a full Windsor.

Jim

[Phog Allen]

I hate ties. I really hate ties. Clip on for me! :biggrin:

Double windsor!

Randy

Hi Randy. I used to feel the same when I was younger. Though I seldom have to wear a tie, I can't imagine not using a regular one now. A clip on is anethema to me. Not to mention that damned clip always seemed to dig into my neck! BTW, double Windsor for me too.

Regards, Todd

[rtaylor61]

Todd,

We are required to wear a shirt and tie during the winter months, allowed to wear golf shirts during the spring, summer and fall. Having said that, the requirement is that you have a tie on. SO, I wear mine, loose, top button undone. Very informal. I've yet to have a complaint from a customer or hear any complaints from the bosses.

Randy

[ratcheer]

I wear a strange knot called the Shelby that I discovered in a magazine in the 80's. It is an inside-out knot that is very compact and neat. I have forgotten how to tie all other knots.

Tim

[Stauff]

I like the St-Andrew. Or the Prince Albert. :001_cool:

[javyn]

Half-Windsor sometimes, most of the time Four-in-Hand.

I think full Windsors are a little showey. I have one wide collar shirt that I'll wear that big knot with sometimes, but that's about it. Wide collar white shirt, burgundy full Windsor tie, dark grey suit.

I hear often of how great the Shelby/Pratt is, but I never took the time to learn it.

[Opus_Y_&_Z]

I prefer a full windsor...I think this is the same as a double windsor. All my dress shirts are spread collars, and IMHO the full windsor does a good job filling up the gap and looking great while doing it.

[peacefrog]

I use a half Windsor or a four-in-hand depending on the thickness of the tie.

[Brownie981]

I wear a tie to work everyday, and have had to wear a tie almost consistently since high school, went to a catholic high school. I began with the four in hand knot, easy simple, can be done 20 seconds before class starts, in college I moved to the half windsor, a little bigger, little more profesional imo, but I always was annoyed by how inconsistent the knot would be, eventually after I graduated I went to the full blown windsor knot, once I had it down it always has worked. My only problems with it is that the full windsor really tears up my ties something fierce, ah well. I always thought the double windsor was the knot thats about the size of a fist that is worn only under a jacket and takes up most of the frontal neck area, like what Michael Irvin wears on Sundays. I too don't see the difference between the full windsor and the english.

[PalmettoB]

Half Windsor for me.

[ratcheer]

Half-Windsor sometimes, most of the time Four-in-Hand.

I think full Windsors are a little showey. I have one wide collar shirt that I'll wear that big knot with sometimes, but that's about it. Wide collar white shirt, burgundy full Windsor tie, dark grey suit.

I hear often of how great the Shelby/Pratt is, but I never took the time to learn it.

I am actually surprised to hear from anyone who has ever heard of the Shelby.

Tim

[Mottern Man]

I use someting like a Double Windsor but I tie it wrong so I call it my own.

[fuerein]

When I wear a tie (not often) it is the four-in-hand. I hate the huge knots that some create (such as the Windsor)... Just don't like the look personally.

Also, I've tried tying a Windsor before... Every time I finished the tie ended about 1/2 way between my collar and the top of my pants. I REALLY hate the look created when people wear a tie that just barely goes to their stomach... looks sloppy IMO.

[Larry C in Texas]

I use a half Windsor or a four-in-hand depending on the thickness of the tie.

+1

Nowadays, the only time I have to wear a tie is to go to a funeral, so I don't get much practice.

[TimmyBoston]

Half Windsor

Anyone like to post any pictures of different knot styles so we can see how they compare/contrast with one another?

[fuerein]

http://www.tie-a-tie.net/ has Windsor, Half-Windsor, Four-in-Hand, and Pratt/Shelby knots.

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/TieKnots/TieKnots.tem also has Prince Albert, Cross, and Small tie knots.

[ouch]

Half Welsh/half Hungarian.............:biggrin:

[Mottern Man]

Half Welsh/half Hungarian.............:biggrin:

My that is a big Tie.

[Skyguy]

Yep, me, too! A Windsor (tied correctly) is classy!

[DirtyDave]

I use the hand-in-four for long ties or a bow tie. I occasionally get odd stares and a few dumb jokes when I wear a bow tie, but Humphrey Bogart liked to wear one, so that is good enough for me.

[ouch]

My that is a big Tie.

:001_rolle

[docslytherin]

half-windsor... i'm 6'4 with a REALLY long torso (pant inseams are 32s) so it's hard for me to find ties that are long enough to tie a full-windsor with even using the extra long ties. luckily, my lab coat holds the short end of the tie down pretty well.

john

[TimmyBoston]

My that is a big Tie.

It's a real smart ass knot, too. Very tough to master.

[Henry Mien]

Thanks for the link. I'm missing the difference between the English and Windsor. Somehow they look exactly the same to me. What nuance am I missing?

I primarily use the half Windsor, slightly smaller knot than a full Windsor.

Jim

with an english you are looping to the side of the knot's center. IMO this makes for a wider knot and gives me (the illusion of ;-)) more control. In a windsor your loops are around the center portion of the knot.

[jfl]

Thanks for the clarification.

I going to try the Pratt/Shelby knot for a while. I had no idea there were this many ways to knot a tie!

[catatonic]

I didn't even know there were different knot methods. I just use the "Italian" knot my entire life....I just sat down one day and tried to get the thing to work, and that was what I figured out on my own.

[glenndon]

In the army we are taught the full windsor. (I'm pretty sure that's it). There are people at work who have had their tie for their dress uniform in the same knot since basic training, when they learned.

Glenn

[doctorsimon]

I use a different knot depending on the mood, shirt collar, and tie. Some ties are beefier and the knot gets too big in a full-windsor whereas others are pretty pathetic and look silly if tied half-windsor.