How do you tie your necktie??

[SilentTuba]

http://www.tieguide.com/tie.htm

After browsing this link, I came to realize that the way I tie my tie every day, the way my dad taught me, is not the way most people do it. The majority of people tie what is called the "Four-In-Hand" knot. I have always tied the "Half Windsor" knot. This week, I've begun experimenting with the different knots on this page, and I've come to realize that, in certain situations, each knot has a place. With some ties, the four-in-hand knot looks great. Others look better in a half windsor. I have another that is very long, and the only way to get a decent sized knot out of it, and still have the tie the right length, is to tie a full windsor. Some of my ties I never wear, because they are too short for me. This week, I learned that if I use a Pratt knot, I can get them to be the correct length, and still look good.

So, how do you tie your tie??

[gaseousclay]

I prefer either a half windsor or full windsor. there have been several threads regarding 'tie do's & don'ts' and like you said, each has it's own function. I made the mistake of doing a four-in-hand knot for my tux when I got married. now when I look at pics my tie looks crooked.

[Groundhog]

Like the site says, I typically use the Four-in-Hand, but I also use the Half-Windsor occasionally, especially for more formal occasions. Sometimes, it also depends on the tie itself. With some of my thicker ties, the knot looks a little bulbous with a Windsor, and some of the thinner ones look not so hot with a Four-in-Hand. I know for me, the Four-in-Hand is easiest to untie. I know guys who like to leave their ties knotted which is a major no-no.

Strangely enough, the knots I learned first were the Windsors; they were all my Dad used. I learned the Four-in-Hand later.

[Piper Down]

I'm nearly always a full-windsor or a four-in-hand knot. It depends on the tie and how substantial it is. A half-windsor, for me, almost always ends up in a ridiculously small knot.

Whichever knot I choose, whenever possible, I always try to end in a dimple. I'm always amazed when I see a TV personality (newscaster, for instance) with an expensive tie, and no dimple. Come on, finish getting dressed, will you?

[chris456]

Half-windsor here.

[rdeakle]

I do a full windsor or half-windsor depending on how wide of the gap on the collar is.

[David in Boston]

Half-windsor here.

+1

Half-Windsor

[5t8t2u]

I found instructions for the Pratt/Shelby knot 2 years ago, and now I use it exclusively. I used to wear a tie to work every day until the century changed when ties disappeared almost overnight from my work world. I only wear a tie about 3 or 4 times a year now, and so I need to keep my knot tying instructions close by for reference.

[DSB]

I use a half Windsor. I think it makes a nicer, more symmetrical knot than the four in hand.

[Hreafn]

Shelby if i use anything else the dimple isnt right.

[The Knize]

Pratt/Shelby

Symetrical but smaller than a Windsor by a lot.

[nmerth]

Well after being in the Military i only use Full-Windsor......Only thing that looks right now....I still hate it when my hair touches my ears.....any surprise I'm interested in getting the BEST shave possible...sure wish I knew about wetshaving back then....lol my Inspections would have went way better...I always got dinged on my shave....stupid M3...and one pass...and canned crap.....

[mbrooks]

The only knot I know is the Half Windsor, but I have trouble getting the dimple right. It always frustrates me, probably because of my perfectionist nature. I'm worst about ties I think... the dimple MUST be perfect, the triangle MUST be symmetrical, and the tip MUST reach the top of the belt and no further.

Maybe I should look into the Pratt/Shelby.

[Bill Smith]

Another half windsor fan here.

[VaHomebrewer]

I wear bowties 90% of the time. Four-in-hand 90% of the time when I wear a regular tie. Half-windsor the other 10%

[D.Irving79]

four in hand. i wear detachable collars, so thats the knot that suits them.

[mmack66]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Clip-On_Tie.jpg

Perfect knot every time.

[mbrooks]

Perfect knot every time.

Cheater! :mad3:

:tongue_sm

[The Knize]

The only knot I know is the Half Windsor, but I have trouble getting the dimple right. It always frustrates me, probably because of my perfectionist nature. I'm worst about ties I think... the dimple MUST be perfect, the triangle MUST be symmetrical, and the tip MUST reach the top of the belt and no further.

Maybe I should look into the Pratt/Shelby.

As a technically it should be impossible to get a half-windsor to be symetrical!

No reason for a dimple not to be perfect! I find the tip to the top of my belt a little short. Maybe I am fat and things separate over the course of the day, though.

[sween1911]

When I worked in I.T. at our corporate HQ, it was shirt and tie Monday to Thursday. I usually did the half windsor, unless it was a longer tie when I could pull off the full windsor. I never did the four-in-hand, it never felt straight enough and I always had too much tie left over. But the more I think about it, my boss used to tie his tie when he got to work and it appears that's the knot he used.

Good site! Thanks for sharing the link!

[Gogo]

I wear a tie everyday and I mix it up. I go 4 in hand, half windsor and full windsor. For me it depends on the tie, the collar and the the jacket if I'm wearing one. I teach all my students all three knots because most of them just do the 'ole wrap and tuck.

[Greybeard]

I use a Half-Windsor also. I find a Windsor too big and a four-in-hand sloppy looking. Never tried a Pratt/Shelby.

[rgc]

For a regular tie I use the St. Andrews knot. For a knit tie then four in hand. Although I try to wear a bow tie at least once to twice a week.

rgc

[Mottern Man]

Double

With cleavage. :w00t:


Alas the new job makes me use a clip on :sad:

[DanOK]

I wear a tie almost everyday. I typically match the knot to the weight of the tie and the type of collar on the shirt. Windsor, Half Windsor, or 4 in Hand are the mainstays for me.

[Anton von Tripp]

For a standard or button-down shirt I use a four-in-hand and with any spread or cutaway collar I use a half-windsor.
Incidentally, although he never claimed to have invented it the Duke of Windsor is credited with popularising the windsor knot.
Ironically, he was frequently photographed wearing the Four-in-hand.

Cordially, AvT,

[Doc4]

I wear a tie everyday and I mix it up. I go 4 in hand, half windsor and full windsor. For me it depends on the tie, the collar and the the jacket if I'm wearing one. I teach all my students all three knots because most of them just do the 'ole wrap and tuck.

That's a good point. The amount of space the collar leaves for the tie knot, and the thickness of the tie itself basically decide what knot is appropriate.

Personally, I've got things sorted out that almost all my shirt-tie combinations call for a full windsor.



... the ol' wrap-n-tuck is what I use for heavy woolen ties, though.

[mbrooks]

As a technically it should be impossible to get a half-windsor to be symetrical!

No reason for a dimple not to be perfect! I find the tip to the top of my belt a little short. Maybe I am fat and things separate over the course of the day, though.

It's rarely symmetrical when the knot is first tied, but a little bit of minor futzing usually gets it right. It helps to get the loops as tight as possible, too.

I played around last night and had an easier time with the dimple on the Pratt/Shelby, but it was too easy to mess up the knot, so today I went with the Half Windsor.

I've heard different tips for where the tip should fall. Some say the top of the belt, some say the middle, some say the bottom. I think for skinnier guys like me it looks best to fall around the top, and for bigger guys it's better to aim for the middle. Letting it go to the bottom looks a little goofy to me.

[The Knize]

For a standard or button-down shirt I use a four-in-hand and with any spread or cutaway collar I use a half-windsor.
Incidentally, although he never claimed to have invented it the Duke of Windsor is credited with popularising the windsor knot.
Ironically, he was frequently photographed wearing the Four-in-hand.

Cordially, AvT,

And a bad dimple in the tie in that photo!

Guy could fill out a suit though. Extraordinarily influential on men's dress and deserves credit for that, as does his tailor. Timeless stuff.

"The Duke of Windsor stood only 5′ 5″ and favored comfort in his clothes, free movement and a style that he referred to as ”Dress Soft.” His jacket waists were uniformly set high to elongate his silhouette. . . . He tweaked the proportions of all his clothes, Mr. Bolton said, for effect. ”Even when he wore a lot of patterns, which are a no-no for small people,” making them seem squat, the Duke gave the impression of being a taller man."

[wimbouman]

1/2 Windsor it is.

[Doc4]

I've heard different tips for where the tip should fall. Some say the top of the belt, some say the middle, some say the bottom. I think for skinnier guys like me it looks best to fall around the top, and for bigger guys it's better to aim for the middle. Letting it go to the bottom looks a little goofy to me.

Aim for the middle. Or better yet, wear 3-piece suits! :thumbup1:

[Anton von Tripp]

Guy could fill out a suit though. Extraordinarily influential on men's dress and deserves credit for that, as does his tailor. Timeless stuff.


(Referring to the Duke of Windsor)
It might interest you to know that although his jackets were built in Saville Row his trousers were made in America - seemingly he preferred the softer snugger effect.
Yes he was only five-five, and an exception had to be made to permit him to serve in the Grenadier Guards (WW1) because he was too short.

Cordially, AvT

[gurana]

You know, I just had a conversation about how to tie neck ties with a friend of mine. We both went to the same private high school that required a tie every day. I had commented that everybody seemed to be able to tie theirs relatively quickly (for those that chose to wait until the homeroom bell to put theirs on) where as mine was seemingly more complicated, and took much longer... when I asked my dad about this, he informed me that they were probably going with something like a half windsor, where as he taught me the full windsor. He then told me that, yes, he did know how to do a half windsor, and no, he wouldn't tell me how to do it... I believe he saw anything short of a full windsor as an affront to gentlemanly style... or something to that effect. I've thought about it from time to time, but never took the initiative to learn anything else. Now that this has been essentially dropped on my lap, I think i will look into it. thanks!

[Yooper]

1/2 Windsor for me. I like the look of a full Windsor, but they take too much material to make the knot. I'm 6' 2", but I still try to use normal length ties, instead the long ones for tall guys. (Longer ties cost more and cut into my shaving budget!!) :tongue_sm

[Noebie]

for the most part, unless it's a bow tie, it's the four in hand for me

very occasionally a half windsor

i know how to tie a full windsor, but i can't say i've ever worn one out of the house

[MaxP]

pratt/shelby

symetrical but smaller than a windsor by a lot.

+1

[The Knize]

+1

Well alright! The first time I have run into anyone else that has ever heard of this knot much less used it! I have been using it for about two decades now. Just seemed so logial to have a symetrical knot smaller than a full windsor!

Gives a more finished look to the back of the tie, too.

[Monkeydad]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Clip-On_Tie.jpg

Perfect knot every time.

Boooooooooooooooooo!

Half-Windsor for me. I'm also a perfectionist when it comes to having the knot straight. I can't stand when it's lopsided like this:

http://blogs.thestate.com/bradwarthensblog/images/2008/05/06/obama2.jpg

http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tomcruuuise__oPt.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o56/leavethemanalone/eli.jpg

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Biden+Palin+Square+Off+VP+Debate+sxAHHlEZzKOl.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_71IfWZjTEr4/SO4g1y_DRPI/AAAAAAAAAlo/Mb6dL34RnTU/s400/biden.jpg

[Echo]

Shelby!

It's as easy as the four in hand but the knot looks as good as the full windsor.

Before I used the Shelby, I would do half-windsor for casual things and full-windsor for things that I needed to look sharp for like interviews.

[The Knize]

Guess I am going to have to fool around with this a bit, but my impression is that because it has more fabric on one side than the other it is impossible to have a "symetrical" half Windsor, if that is what is meant by "lop-sided." A four-in-hand can never to symetrical either, as far as I know.

Barack does not manage a dimple at all in that photo. Of course neither does Tom Cruise. The whole outfit is pretty bad for TC. At about the Duke of Windsor's height, he could sure use the Duke of Windsor's tailor! Actually the suit fits well in the shoulders. It looks like TC borrowed the trousers though.

I am not sure what there is to criticize about Biden, if you were meaning to. Those look like two good four-in-hand knots to me, with very good dimples. Sure they are not symetrical, but 4-i-h knots never are. Wish my collars fit the way Biden's do here. Even Obama's collar arranges itself just so. None of my shirts, expensive or cheap every seem to do that just right.

Obama's ties always look preternaturally smooth and shiny, too!

[Ramaniac]

Full, most of the time. It really depends on the tie width. I just will not buy those super wide ties.

[Macion grey]

I am a big fan of the Pratt knot as well. I use it almost exclusively.

[SilentTuba]

After posting this thread, I've been using the 4 knots on the linked page. Here are my observations:

1.) I don't care for the 4-in-hand knot too much. It looks alright with some times, but I just don't like the crooked nature of it.

2.) The Pratt/Shelby is an Awesome knot. One of the biggest problems I have with normal length ties is keeping the skinny long enough to tuck behind the tie label, so it doesn't get exposed. I have real trouble doing it with a half windsor, but can do it with the Pratt/Shelby (or at least get closer). It looks good, and it's easy to get a nice dimple.

3.) Sometimes, the full Windsor knot is what you need. With the right shirt/tie combo, it looks great.

I've decided to use the Pratt/Shelby, Half-Windsor, and Windsor knots exclusively from this point out, depending on the situation. Although, I honestly think if you can tie a good Pratt/Shelby, you really don't need a half-windsor, so I may not use it much.

[gaseousclay]

did a half windsor today when the wife dragged me to church. I don't normally go to church but it was a good excuse to get dressed. sadly, not many people were dressed up like me

[LinuxMintyFresh]

The Art of Manliness has it all! http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/05/how-to-tie-a-tie/

[Improbable]

I wear ties very infrequently, but I've always used a variant of a full Windsor (#35 at http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~tmf20/tieknots.shtml ).

[petr]

double windsor every time.

[Hughies_online]

Full Windsor knot.

[gaseousclay]

just bought the book "14 ways to tie a necktie" for $1 on clearance from ties.com

[Dennard]

My grandfather used a variation of a half-windsor; so that is what I learned from my dad. I use this knot 99% of the time.

[bluefoxicy]

Double Winsor is the most impressive.

http://www.ehow.com/how_15994_tie-double-windsor.html

I manage my ties by a method knows as "Business Casual." This method typically enhances the definition of "tie" to be closer to the definition of "^*@% that."

Sufficient to say, I make enough money to supply the maximum legal limit of contributions to my 401(k) (yes, there's a limit) and still have 50% of what remains after my monthly expenses for luxury spending or saving; yet I actually don't know how to tie a tie. Really, no clue.

[WhiteKnight]

Double Winsor is the most impressive.



I guess this is the only way I know to knot my tie. I will definitely try the other knots as well.

[gaseousclay]

do you guys realize that you've now made me quite anal about tie presentation? now, whenever I watch the news I look at the anchorman or the weatherman's collor & tie to see if the balance/ratio between the two match or look off.

[strat1117]

99% of the time I do a four-in-hand.

[jgjoneslaw]

Completely depends on the shirt for me. Many of my shirts are spread collar and so the Windsor is my choice most of the time. But when I wear my traditional collar shirts its the four in hand.

[MrMoJoe]

I use a Half-Windsor also. I find a Windsor too big and a four-in-hand sloppy looking. Never tried a Pratt/Shelby.

+1 Exactly. I've never used anything but a Half-Windsor.

[Rudy Vey]

When I wear a tie (hardly anymore, in Germany I did wear one every day) its always a Double Windsor.

[lamina]

Guys, guys...why just to talk about 4 when 85 are available:ohmy:...Being a Nature mag reader myself i remember to have seen once an article about 2 top scientists (applied maths) to investigate if the matter could be taken further ad maiora gloriam Scientia

The scientific approach is here...or when Science solves real world problems!!

http://www.unc.edu/depts/cmse/math/ties.htm

The Pratt one was invented in 89 it seems...

[krawlx]

I used to wear the full windsor, but these days the trend in clothing in general seems to be more towards slim fit. Because I'm a slim guy I find myself following that trend more and more, and have started wearing the half windsor as a result.

[gurana]

I don't wear a tie every day, and recently had to go several days where I did. First of all, what I am tying isn't exactly a full windsor, like I previous posted... well, it's not the full windsor described by the link in the OP. It is tied in a similar fashion, and the end result is the same.

That said, I thought I'd try out all the different types of knotts outlined. They seemed interesting, but with 15+ years of tying just this one knott, I found them difficult to remember. In any event, I'm happy with the knott I've been tying, and the 2 seconds I'd save by doing it another way just isn't worth it. I'm going to try some of them again next time I need to wear ties (looking like January) for the sake of variety, but I hardly see the need.

[azmark]

I use full windsor or pratt knot with a wide collar shirt and half with narrow collar.

[gaseousclay]

The Art of Manliness has it all! http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/05/how-to-tie-a-tie/

holy crap :ohmy:! it never occured to me that Don Shelby made the Shelby knot popular -- I watch him every now and again for my local news. the funny thing is, I don't really care for the suits he wears.

[Venom8431]

I almost always go with the half windsor because that's the easiest one for me to make presentable. If I feel like going crazy, I'll go for a full windsor.

[mliguori]

I use the four-in-hand, quick and easy for me.

[MWS]

Four-in-hand. Only knot I could tie while "on the run" and without a mirror in high school...bed to class in 4 minutes flat :001_tongu

[dwnwrdishvnwrd]

Pratt-Shelby is my go to knot. I have a thick neck so this knot allows me to have some tail left over to tuck into the loops. Plus, it makes a great dimple.

[gaseousclay]

Pratt-Shelby is my go to knot. I have a thick neck so this knot allows me to have some tail left over to tuck into the loops. Plus, it makes a great dimple.

is the Pratt/Shelby knot the same as the Half-Windsor except inverted?

[The Knize]

is the Pratt/Shelby knot the same as the Half-Windsor except inverted?

I cannot think through that one! Sorry, my spatial visualization is not that strong. B

But I do not think so. As I comprehend it, a half Windsor is inherently asymetrical--there will always be more tie fabric towards one side of the knot than towards the other--whereas a Pratt/Shelby knot, and for that matter a full Windsor--is symetrical. Thus, a Pratt/Shelby cannot be an inversion of a half-Windor or it would be asymetrical, too.

Also, as I recall, if you pull the shorter end through and out of a half-Windsor, the knot will come apart by itself. If you do this to a tie tied with a Pratt/Shelby the knot stays in the tie. Not saying that it is a big advantage either way. I am just saying that if one knot were an inversion of the other I would expect both to behave the same way.

To me, conceptually, a half-Windsor, in order to create a more compact knot, basically takes away part of one side of the finished knot. The Pratt/Shelby reconfigures the entire knot to make it smaller, while maintaining symetry.

Not that there is anything so wrong with lack of symetry.

[gaseousclay]

I cannot think through that one! Sorry, my spatial visualization is not that strong. B

But I do not think so. As I comprehend it, a half Windsor is inherently asymetrical--there will always be more tie fabric towards one side of the knot than towards the other--whereas a Pratt/Shelby knot, and for that matter a full Windsor--is symetrical. Thus, a Pratt/Shelby cannot be an inversion of a half-Windor or it would be asymetrical, too.

Also, as I recall, if you pull the shorter end through and out of a half-Windsor, the knot will come apart by itself. If you do this to a tie tied with a Pratt/Shelby the knot stays in the tie. Not saying that it is a big advantage either way. I am just saying that if one knot were an inversion of the other I would expect both to behave the same way.

To me, conceptually, a half-Windsor, in order to create a more compact knot, basically takes away part of one side of the finished knot. The Pratt/Shelby reconfigures the entire knot to make it smaller, while maintaining symetry.

Not that there is anything so wrong with lack of symetry.

ah, thanks for the clarification. think i'll be donning the Pratt/Shelby knot tonight

[The Knize]

ah, thanks for the clarification. think i'll be donning the Pratt/Shelby knot tonight

Have fun with it. All of these knots are good. This knot is still my favorite, but thinking about symetry being over-rated, if you look at photos of various folks wearing ties from models to US Presidents, most knots are not symetrical. I really love a well-tied four-in-hand knot, which can never be symetrical. (I am sure I am missing spelling that word by the way.)

Some folks write that they like a four in hand beccause it is easy to tie and not fussy. My negatives re a four in hand is that for me it is harder to tie well, not easier!

[TheCrash]

I found this site (http://www.tie-a-tie.net/) that seems to be a good help with the four knots displayed on the site. Has step by step instructions and video instructions. Used it for the Pratt just this past Monday.

[dwnwrdishvnwrd]

ah, thanks for the clarification. think i'll be donning the Pratt/Shelby knot tonight

I've wearing a Pratt-Shelby in my new avatar. I'll put up a larger photo show what it looks like.

[dwnwrdishvnwrd]

For some reason it's not allowing me to insert the photo directly here so here is a link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44660474@N08/4102883594/) to it.

[Gizmo]

Full Windsor.

[RHVette]

Half Windsor or Pratt/Shelby depending on the width of the tie. A wide Windsor knot just looks weird on a skinny tie.

[manythoughts]

Standard size tie: Half-Windsor

Extra Long tie: Full Windsor

:angry: I did the four in hand all through high school, so I refuse to wear it now.:biggrin1:

I used to do the shelby/pratt, but I just prefer the windsors.

[mstorm22]

used to do the full windsor but now 4 in hand since it's a tad faster

[ZlinMan]

Half-windsor for me here, some ties it can be a pain, but having to wear one every day takes the excitement out of learning the perfect know for each tie lol.

[Matt S]

I do a half windsor, although I think I may try out that Pratt knot. I've seen guys wearing it and always wondered what they were doing to get that knot.

I did the four in hand back on the rare occassion I wore a tie in HS or college. Once I entered the world of tie wearing professionals, I picked up the half windsor.

[travo36]

full windsor here, its what my grandfather showed me and what i perfected in the military:thumbup:

[aodenkou]

I NEVER wear a tie anymore. I have moved over to wearing bolo's. Never again will I have my neck in a strangle hold, my shirt buttoned up where I feel like I am being choked! Now, before anyone thinks that I am wearing some tourist trap bolo, have a look at custom made bolo ties from Navajo or Zuni artists something like http://www.alltribes.com/Tommy-Singer-Native-American-Genuine-Turquoise-Sterling-Silver-Bolo-Tie-pr-214844.html They work with sports jackets, suit, and I put them on with my Tux, not even a bow tie for me. I know I get more compliments on my bolo ties than I ever got on any regular tie I have ever worn.

When I did wear one it was always a Full Windsor - but never again :biggrin1:

[Matt S]

I actually like wearing a tie. Before I wore one everyday, and when I was tying pretty crappy knots, I didn't enjoy doing it. Now, I like the look of my spread collar shirt with a well formed knot and a length that is just right. I feel "put together" and more confident. Sometimes I almost yearn for the old days when men would wear ties all the time. If I wore a tie to the golf course like they used to back in Bobby Jones' day, I would probably be looked at like a lunatic.

[seabs]

I always do the four in hand knot (it's the only knot I've ever used and I think it usually looks good on me). A Pratt knot would probably work for me too and I should learn it. Being that I'm thin, a full windsor or anything bulky would just look odd.

[Shaving_Grace]

I wear a Pratt/Shelby most days at work. For more formal occasions, I sport a full windsor.

[maxman]

I have a bigger neck (and body for that matter :sad:) so I should be using the Half-Windsor knot. but I know how to tie the four-in-hand knot so that's what I go with.

[DESkydiver]

Always a full-windsor for a neck tie.

What about a bow tie? How many out there use a real hand-tied bow tie as compared to the clipped straps or worse, clip-on?

Hand tied here.

[The Knize]

Extra Long tie: Full Windsor



Good point! Me, too. Not really a very satisfactory solution though. How the heck do I end up with some ties that are exra long! Am I really that careless!

[Sal]

I used to do a 4 in hand, half windsor, ect like everyone else. For the past few years now I have been messing around with different tie knots that I have found around the webs, changing things up a bit. Interestingly, the ladies seem to notice different knots more than the fellas. Been sporting this one lately.


YA-n2xkYX6s

[Coop]

Four-In-Hand pretty much exclusively.

[dashiel]

I used to do a 4 in hand, half windsor, ect like everyone else. For the past few years now I have been messing around with different tie knots that I have found around the webs, changing things up a bit. Interestingly, the ladies seem to notice different knots more than the fellas. Been sporting this one lately.

how funny, just did that one last night for the first time. haven't worn, or had to wear a real tie in over a decade. sadly the three times i recently wore ties were for friends weddings where those abysmal zipper ties were used.

however due to a string of formal events i'll be attending this year i just purchased a MTM tux and charcoal suit so i've been remembering or learning a few.

for my extra long ties the full windsor and eidety/atlantic knot are about all that work for me. for everything else i've been doing the four in hand or the diagonal - oh and of course a hand tied bow tie, which i love for its rakish qualities.

[Carlin]

I used to do a 4 in hand, half windsor, ect like everyone else. For the past few years now I have been messing around with different tie knots that I have found around the webs, changing things up a bit. Interestingly, the ladies seem to notice different knots more than the fellas. Been sporting this one lately.


YA-n2xkYX6s

I use the matrix knot exclusively.

[gaseousclay]

I used to do a 4 in hand, half windsor, ect like everyone else. For the past few years now I have been messing around with different tie knots that I have found around the webs, changing things up a bit. Interestingly, the ladies seem to notice different knots more than the fellas. Been sporting this one lately.


YA-n2xkYX6s

the hentai :lol:

looks interesting though.

[Wheater]

i do a full windsor or half-windsor depending on how wide of the gap on the collar is.

+1

[xgunterx]

I always do a double windsor which is probably just another name for a full windsor.

[C Reed]

I almost allways wear Bow Ties, so I tie a bow, if I'm wearing a neck tie, its 4-in-hand for casul situations on thin and mid width ties, or a Prince Albert on super skinny ties. I'll tie my wider ties in a half-windsor in the winter for formal ocasions and I never wear anything wide enough for a full windsor.

Recently its been 4-in-hand, tie bar, open jacket, no vest or bow tie vest, closed jacket.

[mook]

Four in hand 20% of the time half Windsor the rest. I believe James Bond mentions full Windsors being the sign of a cad unsure where tho lol

[langod]

Having gone to a Catholic High School in the early 80s -- I was an expert at tying a 4-in-hand on the run through the school hallways. Later, I learned the other knots when wearing ties for work.
These days my "muscle memory" doesn't even work for the 4-in-hand anymore -- I use the half windsor most of the time. I never use the 4ih -- to me it just screams "high school boy".
The other symmetrical knots just have so much more class.

Might have to try the Matrix knot -- Hentai, LOL

[bishop]

I'd been using a half-windsor for years until discovering the Pratt/Shelby here. I use it 99% of the time now. My alternative is a four-in-hand only if the material is right.

Both knots allow me to wear regular-length neckties and still put the small end through the loop. I have found that x-long neckties are severely limited in variety and, well, shall we say, class.

[DashingMale]

I used to be a four in hander. Now I stick to the half Windsor. It seems to work best for me and the ties I wear.

[Johnny Dale]

I always use a half-windsor knot. I never liked the lopsidedness of the four-in-hand knot. Symmetry in motion baby!:tongue_sm

[Ignatius]

What an informative and concise site *bookmarked*

ps thanks to the OP

[Deltaboy]

4 in hand or the Full Windsor.

[The Knize]

Interesting, I just read a thread on askandy.com where the topic discussed was whether any knot other than a 4-in-hand was ever appropriate, and lots of folks seemed to be saying no knot other than a 4-in-hand should ever be used. I guess the idea was that any other knot is somehow declasse. Someone quoted the Duke of Windsor as saying he had never used the Windsor knot or anything other than a 4-in-hand in his life.

I had never run into this concept/rule previously!

[JaDo]

I wear a four in hand the majority of the time. I was once told by a British fellow that it was cheeky.....that's always kind of stuck with me.

[Mandrake]

This video has been my "Guide" for a while now:

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[shamus]

Half Windsor is the knot I use.

Cheers

[The Knize]

I wear a four in hand the majority of the time. I was once told by a British fellow that it was cheeky.....that's always kind of stuck with me.

"Cheeky"! That is fantastic! I am wearing a 4-in-hand today for the first time in a decade. I think it looks terrible, at least with this spread collar shirt. But if I can be "cheeky" just by wearing it, I am in!

[elkaholic]

I always rock the Windsor. It's the one my dad taught me, and I always thought the other ones looked crappy. In basic training, I had to tie everyone's tie for them, and they just loosened it enough to slip it over their head and left it tied!

[LegalEagle143]

Four in hand is my go to, since I really do not need to think about it when I'm in a hurry. But I try to match my knot to the shirt.

My other favorites at the moment are the "Cavendish" and the "Christensen". I personally love the Christensen, but it takes some practice to get it right - and most days I don't have the patience to tie it.