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Inspector71
09-14-2009, 04:53 PM
Hi All

I've recently added ingram to my modest collection of creams and I'm finding it difficult to lather. It doesn't seem to like having much water added. I soak my brush then squeeze out the excess water then I can build a mediocre lather in my mug. If I add any more water the lather just collapses. Is it possible I've got a bad tube of cream or is this just the way it is?

My other creams are euro palmolive and real shaving co and I don't have this problem with either of them. I would have to say the palmolive is by far the best in that I can add more water with it and still have a nice cushioning lather.

Any advice appreciated

JCee
09-14-2009, 06:15 PM
I've been using Ingrams quite a bit lately and get a really good lather. All I do is wet my brush in hot water, give it one shake, and apply a small dollop of cream to the brush and face lather ( I face lather both my soaps and creams). It takes a few swirls to get it started, but once it does, I get a large amount of quality lather.

Inspector71
09-14-2009, 06:30 PM
I've been using Ingrams quite a bit lately and get a really good lather. All I do is wet my brush in hot water, give it one shake, and apply a small dollop of cream to the brush and face lather ( I face lather both my soaps and creams). It takes a few swirls to get it started, but once it does, I get a large amount of quality lather.

I did face lather with it one morning when time was short. I was able to get a nice lather for the first pass but when I picked up the brush to re-lather there was basically nothing there. Almost as if someone sneaked in and rinsed out my brush:biggrin:

Cheers

Luc
09-14-2009, 06:36 PM
Interesting as mine also lather well...

JCee
09-14-2009, 07:03 PM
. Almost as if someone sneaked in and rinsed out my brush:biggrin:


Wasn't me, I'm in the wrong continent.... :lol:

Just a thought, maybe it's not the cream. Could it be your brush perhaps? I use my C&E Badger with creams, as my boar brush doesn't do so well with them (soaps are another story).

ogopogo
09-15-2009, 08:54 PM
I did face lather with it one morning when time was short. I was able to get a nice lather for the first pass but when I picked up the brush to re-lather there was basically nothing there. Almost as if someone sneaked in and rinsed out my brush:biggrin:

Cheers

That's exactly what's been happening with mine.

I first opened my current tube (it's my 3rd) back around March, I think. It was in the rotation with a couple of other creams and it was performing great.

When the summer started I began using it exclusively. Soon I noticed what you described: It lathers OK with no problems. The first pass goes well but by the second is like the lather just disappears. I haven't done anything differently. Same brush, same bowl, same water. :confused: And one more thing. It also seems to be gumming up my brush.

So far I've used 3 tubes of this thing. The first came out very runny, but it lathered fine. The second was OK. And now I'm having issues with this 3rd. Not a very consistent cream. I won't be purchasing it again.

rac
09-18-2009, 11:42 AM
hi all
emm interesting ,i bought some for a £1 , in sale, weird got no lather either , kept looking at the brush ,thinking someones been playing jokes .then thought something was wrong with my skin , had to do 2 applications .even though i did not get much lather it was still ok to use . :confused:

ginhud
12-31-2009, 01:15 PM
In the mail today, new Edwin Jagger boar brush and a tube of Ingram. First pass, with some trial and error, I got good lather with both new shave cream and brush. Ready for pass 2, brush looked like nothing in it, what happened to the lather? Wet the brush again and had to add about 3/4 inch more from tube to get it going. Done good then. I'll be experimenting to see just how much Ingram. Shave was good. Thanks for sharing.

Duckster
12-31-2009, 01:21 PM
When I use Ingram I have to use twice as much of it compared to other creams.
I like Ingram's cooling effect and scent, but it's performance is so-so.

paydepst
12-31-2009, 03:47 PM
If your Ingram creams are runny they have been exposed to heat at some point and for a prolonged period. You might try storing it in cooler surroundings if only temporarily and see if that firms it up any. As for the lathering issue, Ingram lathers well but it is extremely sensitive to the composition of the water you're mixing it with. If the water is the least bit hard you will have problems. Ingram also responds well to vigourous agitation in the bowl so you might give that a go too.

TheBigL
01-02-2010, 04:49 AM
Hi All

I've recently added ingram to my modest collection of creams and I'm finding it difficult to lather. It doesn't seem to like having much water added. I soak my brush then squeeze out the excess water then I can build a mediocre lather in my mug. If I add any more water the lather just collapses. Is it possible I've got a bad tube of cream or is this just the way it is?

My other creams are euro palmolive and real shaving co and I don't have this problem with either of them. I would have to say the palmolive is by far the best in that I can add more water with it and still have a nice cushioning lather.

Any advice appreciated

While I have never used any, I believe Ingrams comes in both lather and brushless. Perhaps double check which one you have.

paydepst
01-02-2010, 05:10 PM
Yes that's true. Ingram Green is the brushless variety and absolutely will NOT lather no more what you do.

TXDE
01-02-2010, 05:44 PM
I too have had problems lathering Ingram, and yes the lather for the second pass is non-existent.
I have had some good luck using my Ingram as a component in a super-lather though.
Just my .02

paydepst
01-03-2010, 12:21 PM
Ingram is funny this way. I have some customers that swear by it and love its lather and others who say that they really have to work with it to get a good lather but that their efforts are well rewarded. I have found that Ingram blue is more sensitive to the water ratio and the type of water it is being mingled with than any of the other creams I sell. It also is more sensitive to storage conditions than my other creams. It doesn't like heat in the least.

TXDE brings up a point that I had forgotten to mention. Ingram is an excellent component if you are compounding a superlather--no doubt about it.

Whilst we are on the subject of Ingram, I would be remiss if I didn't say that the discontinued Ingram green is not subject to any of the issues that are known to attend Ingram blue. It is brushless so it won't lather and its very composition makes it resistant to heat related breakdown and it doesn't have to have cool storage conditions like the Ingram blue seems to prefer. It is also an excellent pre-shave base and a lot easier to travel with than a tub of Proraso.