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ozzy_scl
08-31-2009, 11:56 AM
I decided to contribute with something I thought was needed a bit here.
A guide for Ultrasonic Cleaning, by no means I am an expert, but after some reading, experimentation and loads of curiosity I have come to some good results.
I hope this little guide will be helpful and if you wish, you can contribute aswell, after all we're a comunity, and as such is built by us all.

First a bit of history


The ultrasonic generator converts electrical energy from the line which is typically alternating current at 50 or 60Hz to electrical energy at the ultrasonic frequency. This is accomplished in a number of ways by various equipment manufacturers. Current ultrasonic generators nearly all use solid state technology.

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There have been several relatively recent innovations in ultrasonic generator technology which may enhance the effectiveness of ultrasonic cleaning equipment. These include square wave outputs, slowly or rapidly pulsing the ultrasonic energy on and off and modulating or "sweeping" the frequency of the generator output around the central operating frequency. The most advanced ultrasonic generators have provisions for adjusting a variety of output parameters to customize the ultrasonic energy output for the task.

Now What do we need?

In terms of our needs, a cleaner with a 50w output would be sufficient, is said that the more watts, the better the cleaning. Personally I own a 50w and 42khz ultrasonic frequency with a 750ml tank. And is just perfect for me, as I do razor cleaning, plus some jewlery.

There are bigger and more powerful cleaners, but that come to a cost, so If you're planning on buying one, just for cleaning razors, I would suggest something similar to mine.

The cleaning process is quite simple, after some scrubbing with a toothbrush, you can place the item in the cleaner (note that you can skip the toothbrush process, but there are cases in which the ultrasonic, may not be enough).
Do a few minutes cycle and check, repeat as needed, rinse, dry and polish.

I have noticed that after ultrasonic cleaning, razors, neclases, and most items cleaned, are left with a nice shine, not achieved with regular cleaning.

There are ready made solutions, but you can make your own, with warm tap water, a little bit of washing up liquid, and if you want a drop of vinegar (all this would depend on your tanks capacity).

Also there are some ready made solutions that claim to get rid of rust and tarnish, but I have not tried them.

Things to look out

Ultrasonic cleaners are quite powerful and can remove the paint on some razors IE: painted numbers, or handles.
I have cleaned gold plated razors, with no damage, but I have been very careful, not going for more than a minute cycle.
A trick I tried with an old superpeed was carfully wrapping the dial with duct tape, and although the tape started to come off after 3 minutes, the paint didn't.
Please note, I do not suggest to do that on razors that you are not willing to run a risk.

So what else can I use my cleaner for?

Ultrasonic cleaners are very versatile, and not only limited to metal cleaning.
Glasses, watches, discs, mechanical parts, and maybe the part that will help you guys convince the lady is worth buying: Jewels

As said before, ultrasonic cleaners, use the power of waves to do their job, so porous surfaces are not good to be cleaned with an ulstrasonic.

Here's a little list of precious stones that can and cannot be cleaned with.

(please note, this list was taken from the manufactures website, and I have not tried to clean any of this)

Precious Stone Ultrasonic Clean
Amber No
Opal No
Amethyst No
Pearls No
Aquamarine No
Perdot No
Blue Topaz No
Rose Quartz No
Citrine No
Emerald No
Smoky Quartz No
Tanzanite No
Jade No
Topaz No
Onyx No
Tourmaline No
Garnet
Diamond Yes
Sapphire Yes Yes
Ruby Yes
Finally a little video just to show the process, This is me cleaning a Gillette Aristocrat #19, the solution was warm water and a drop of washing up liquid.
The gunk that you see previous to the machine been started is because I decided to record it, just a few seconds after I started the machine in the first place.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7CjVIRxgWI

If the video is not available, here is the direct link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7CjVIRxgWI)

Some before and after shots (with polishing)
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http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4543/airsto1.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1522/london09174.jpg

PS: I cannot change the title and I think "to" would be more suitable instead of "in" so if any mod can change it, would be really appreciate it (english is not my mother tongue)

airplanedoc
08-31-2009, 01:23 PM
Thanks Much, this is just what I have been looking for, I am in the market for a ultrasonic cleaner.

Pirate-M.Lifnen
08-31-2009, 01:38 PM
Wow, these get rediculously clean.
I think I have one actually, but I never thought using it would do much.
Changed my mind!

40_Caliber
08-31-2009, 04:37 PM
Wow! What a huge difference. Great post.

Please post a link to the ultrasonic cleaner that you used for your demonstration.

.40

ozzy_scl
08-31-2009, 04:40 PM
Wow! What a huge difference. Great post.

Please post a link to the ultrasonic cleaner that you used for your demonstration.

.40

Thanks, I didn't want to post the link to the cleaner before, but here it is (http://www.amazon.com/Haier-HU781B-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-Black/dp/B000MVVZ8I/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/179-4161334-4484225).

I bought the same one in the U.K. I'm pretty sure they're made by the same company.

koso
08-31-2009, 04:51 PM
Great information, pics, video, and command of English. Thanks for posting this!

RobT.O.
10-04-2009, 07:04 AM
The cleaning process is quite simple, after some scrubbing with a toothbrush, you can place the item in the cleaner (note that you can skip the toothbrush process, but there are cases in which the ultrasonic, may not be enough).
Do a few minutes cycle and check, repeat as needed, rinse, dry and polish.


How long did it take for your Aristocrat to get clean in your Ultrasonic?

mr-razor
10-04-2009, 08:32 AM
great thread!

sigmasix
10-04-2009, 08:55 AM
thanks for the research! :)

there's no health hazards being near that thing while it's operating right? :tongue:

ozzy_scl
11-02-2009, 12:23 PM
Sorry for the delay, I didn't check it before.

I usually go for 3 minutes (if there's nothing that can be removed, like paint, etc) I think in all I had it for 6 to 7 minutes, followed by rinsing, drying and polishing.


The cleaner will give metal a bit of shine, but with the polishing you're getting the perfect result.

ozzy_scl
11-02-2009, 12:26 PM
thanks for the research! :)

there's no health hazards being near that thing while it's operating right? :tongue:

Thanks, hehe, is completely safe. But actually is hard to stay away as the gunk comes out!

Blondie
11-02-2009, 12:41 PM
So after the cleaning, what did you use to polish that razor? There is so much talk on the site about not polishing gold razors, and you seem to have gotten satisfactory results with no damage to the gold plating. What product did you use?

Captain Peachfuzz
11-02-2009, 04:56 PM
Hopefully an expert can confirm this but I was told by a jewelry supply company that to be a true ultrasonic cleaner and not just a vibrating cleaner; the holding tank MUST be metal.

With a true ultrasonic, the ultrasound waves do most of the cleaning so milder cleaning solutions can be used.

Blondie
11-02-2009, 05:11 PM
Aren't they all metal with a plastic basket that goes in and out?

Captain Peachfuzz
11-02-2009, 05:56 PM
Aren't they all metal with a plastic basket that goes in and out?

There are some inexpensive models out there marketed as jewelry cleaners that are all plastic with plastic tanks.

ozzy_scl
11-03-2009, 06:20 AM
Well Achim might be able to confirm this, but it seems that this particular aristocrat (#19) is 24k plated, intead of the ussual gold plating. In Krumholz book it says that.

I'm not sue though. I just took a look at the razor and is still shinny (not as shinny as it was after polishing) but shinny enough from being over 2 months since I did it.

ozzy_scl
11-03-2009, 06:23 AM
There are some inexpensive models out there marketed as jewelry cleaners that are all plastic with plastic tanks.

The model I have has a metal tank, with the plastic basket.

If you use it without the basket, it seems to me that it generates more "waves" I mean a lot more.

With this particular razor, I used the basket, because I didn't wanted the razor to move, and risking to scratch or something else, as a result of the razor moving against the metal tank while being cleaned.

koso
11-03-2009, 09:59 AM
I recently got one for my birthday (yea me! :smile: ) and these things are all they are cracked up to be.

Mine runs on an automatic three-minute cycle so you can't forget to turn it off and blast your whatever to smithereens.

I had a few razors around that were, well, you know. "I'll work on getting that green off someday when I have nothing better to do."

This thing blasts the green off, all of it. It took a few cycles- I would just hit the button as I walked by over a period of days. I'd guess it took a total of 30 minutes for a couple of these guys.

If I'd been thinking I would have done a picture study on the process. Maybe in the future, I'm still picking up odd lots of razors here and there.

I definitely give these little units a thumbs up.

ozzy_scl
11-03-2009, 02:23 PM
Same here, I'm pretty happy about the unit.

I usually run a 3 minute cycle, and check. I think mine goes up to 9 minutes (I think it says 580 secs). Anyway, When I run it for a while I let it cool, change the water and keep it going as needed.
As you say, they remove pretty much anything.

Captain Shaveman
11-03-2009, 03:37 PM
Out of curiosity.....has anyone used a brush in one of these before?

If so.....

How long did you keep it in the cleaner for (the full cycle or just 1-2 mins)?

Did/do you submerge the brush completely or just place the loft in?

Also, the type of brush you cleaned (does it work for badger, boar and synthetic brushes)?

Millay
11-03-2009, 04:31 PM
I got a bunch of new olf stock 1950's shaving brushes from germany, and they were dusty, so all the plastic/glass/horn based ones went into the ultrasonic, as the plan is to sell them, two trips in an ultrasonic was a good test IMHO that the glue hadnt deteriorated etc. They came out beautifully, and I ultrasonic cleaned them again after a good soak in barbiced, they came out absolutly amazing.

Do not put wood into the ultrasonic cleaner as the water seems to get into the wood and pull of the varnish etc.