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Jim
08-30-2009, 07:55 PM
Yep, humble as it may be, its origins were as an English fish sauce, some recipes go back as far as the 17th century.

Here is a fast and easy recipe thats a good base for experimenting or BBQ sauce making.


4 cups tomato paste (homemade works great from that bumper crop)
3 cups white vinegar
1 2/3 cups brown sugar
2 cups water
2 teaspoons granulated garlic
2 teaspoons Cinnamon
2 teaspoons dry mustard
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon toasted and ground coriander
1 teaspoon Cayenne pepper
1/2 teaspoon ground cloves
1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
Combine in pot and bring to a boil, reduce heat to a simmer for 30 minutes.
A stick blender is a helpful aid in emulsifying the ingredients.

Enjoy!


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ouch
08-31-2009, 04:42 AM
That sounds fantastic, and I'm going to give it a whirl. I've made ketchup before, but I'm pretty much in the "ketchup is a problem solved by the Heinz Corporation many years ago" camp.

Home made sauces are cool- steak sauce, hot sauce, bbq sauce, duck sauce......

thunderball
08-31-2009, 04:44 AM
Yep, humble as it may be, its origins were as an English fish sauce, some recipes go back as far as the 17th century.

Here is a fast and easy recipe thats a good base for experimenting or BBQ sauce making.


4 cups tomato paste (homemade works great from that bumper crop)
3 cups white vinegar
1 2/3 cups brown sugar
2 cups water
2 teaspoons granulated garlic
2 teaspoons Cinnamon
2 teaspoons dry mustard
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon toasted and ground coriander
1 teaspoon Cayenne pepper
1/2 teaspoon ground cloves
1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
Combine in pot and bring to a boil, reduce heat to a simmer for 30 minutes.
A stick blender is a helpful aid in emulsifying the ingredients.

Enjoy!

For once, a recipe for which I have all the ingredients...I may have to try this one. :biggrin:

RichGem
08-31-2009, 04:44 AM
Who knew that so many ingredients went into ketchup? Tho, just the thought of it on fish makes me a bit queasy.

Jim
08-31-2009, 12:27 PM
Who knew that so many ingredients went into ketchup? Tho, just the thought of it on fish makes me a bit queasy.

Some of the old recipes used squash or cucumber instead of tomatoes.

moonshine44
08-31-2009, 03:01 PM
Who knew that so many ingredients went into ketchup? Tho, just the thought of it on fish makes me a bit queasy.

Fish stick sandwiches on wheat bread with ketchup and bread-and-butter pickle chips! YUM! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

FiXXXer
08-31-2009, 03:33 PM
Who knew that so many ingredients went into ketchup? Tho, just the thought of it on fish makes me a bit queasy.

It was originally made FROM fish, not FOR fish.

mretzloff
08-31-2009, 04:47 PM
Thank you for the post. I have made dozens of sauces, but ketchup is one I have never even tried.

strat1117
08-31-2009, 04:59 PM
Who knew that so many ingredients went into ketchup? Tho, just the thought of it on fish makes me a bit queasy.

I can see ketchup on a fried fish sandwich, but otherwise, probably not so much (although cocktail sauce seems to be, more or less, ketchup with horseradish, and I certainly like that on shellfish).

danek
09-01-2009, 08:58 AM
I can see ketchup on a fried fish sandwich, but otherwise, probably not so much (although cocktail sauce seems to be, more or less, ketchup with horseradish, and I certainly like that on shellfish).

I often mix ketchup and mayonnaise to make a sauce for salmon and steelhead.

ogopogo
09-01-2009, 09:10 AM
I don't use ketchup very often, but when I do, I like to spice it up a bit with a dash of Tabasco sauce.

ouch
09-01-2009, 11:40 AM
I have a 12 year old. We buy ketchup by the skid.

Bobtrumpet
09-01-2009, 12:06 PM
"ketchup is a problem solved by the Heinz Corporation many years ago"

You got that right!

BTW, Heinz "Chili Sauce" is one of the great undiscovered condiments, IMO.

_JP_
09-01-2009, 06:24 PM
That ketchup recipe looks a lot like a BBQ sauce recipe that I have. It uses almost all of those ingredients plus ketchup and some other stuff.

Mom and I used it as a base sauce one night and doctored it up. The trouble was, we were drinking Martinis and didn't write down what we did. Too bad, because it was the best BBQ sauce I'll ever taste and we couldn't ermember what we did. I still remember the taste...

Obsessed
09-03-2009, 10:31 AM
Did someone say ketchup?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4WApzEienE

Lynchmeister
09-03-2009, 12:39 PM
What exactly is chili sauce?

Houndawg
09-03-2009, 12:45 PM
Fish stick sandwiches on wheat bread with ketchup and bread-and-butter pickle chips! YUM! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


That's just NASTY! I threw up a little in my mouth just reading it.

eightysixCJ
09-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Interesting, thanks Jim.

Not sure I want to start making my own but it is an great and easy base for other sauces.

Tom

ratcheer
09-06-2009, 03:23 PM
I have a 12 year old. We buy ketchup by the skid.

+1, I have two sons. I have been known to enjoy ketchup on French fried potatoes.

Tim

airplanedoc
09-07-2009, 10:18 AM
What exactly is chili sauce?


Think ketchup that is the consistancy of Salsa. At least that is how my mom has made it for years. I don't know exactly what her recipe is but it is similar to the one listed at the top of the thread Less the stick blender

ratcheer
09-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Think ketchup that is the consistancy of Salsa. At least that is how my mom has made it for years. I don't know exactly what her recipe is but it is similar to the one listed at the top of the thread Less the stick blender

I haven't had any in a long time, but the Heinz brand chili sauce I remember was thicker, sweeter, and spicier than their regular ketchup. I might want to get some and try it again.

Tim

RazorDingo
09-07-2009, 02:39 PM
I'm a little curious: How is the homemade ketchup different and/or superior to that tasty, tangy condiment provided in such convenient (and moderately priced) form by Heinz?

Alacrity59
09-07-2009, 03:41 PM
If you ever have a bumper crop of mushrooms and you like steak you should give Heston Blumenthal's mushroom ketchup recipe a try.