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guenron
11-28-2005, 07:41 AM
Greetings Gents,
On more than one occasion I have shared my time-tested shaving regimen with those that were seeking the ultimate in closeness along with an irritation-free experience. So that this message does not go on forever, I am not going to talk about prep, razor angle, blades, creams, or soaps, just the Four Pass patterns. A note of caution, this methodology is based upon the gradual reduction of the beard on each pass. Each successive pass depends upon the prior passes being completed correctly, thereby reducing the whiskers for the cutting angles to be used in each successive pass. Failure to do this can result in a a great deal of irritation, a miserable shave, and an inestimable number of nicks and/or severe cuts.
To facilitate our communication, let us begin with a few (simple) terms and ideas. When I refer to the face, I divide it into four quadrants (just like quarters only different).
The dividing lines are:

the vertical line running through the center of your nose
and a horizontal line that runs along your jawbone.

Quadrant one (Q1) is the left cheek and other parts of your face left of the nose out to the ear, from your jawbone up to the top of your left cheek. Quadrant two (Q2) is the same area on the right side of your face. Though your moustache and chin are included within these boundaries, we will treat them separately. Quadrant three (Q3) is the area to the left of the vertical line and below the horizontal line running along your jawbone. Quadrant four (Q4) is the area to the right of the vertical line and below the horizontal line described above.

Let us begin! First at the beginning of each pass we rinse the face with comfortably hot water, leaving the face wet and then lather.

Now for pass one. In Q1 we stroke from North to South, starting at the ear-side of the quadrant performing parallel strokes until we reach the leftmost edge of the lip. The bottom of the stroke is at the midline of the jawbone. Depending on your style, you may wish to take one long , two medium, or three short strokes to do each "STROKE." Now we move to Q2 and perform the same series of strokes, but from right to left. Now it is time for Q3. Starting all of the way to the left again, gently lifting up (if you need to) the left cheek, begin your North to South stroke where the lather begins on your left cheek/jawbone. Stop at the end of the beardline on your neck. Now continue with parallel strokes until you reach the chin. Now we do Q4 much the same as Q3, except we start at the right and work our way to the right edge of the chin. We are now ready for the moustache. Simply and carefully, perform a series of very short North to South strokes starting at the left side working to the middle (filtrum). Repeat the process working from the right side to the center. The very last strokes should shear the whiskers from the filtrum. Shave the chin in much the same fashion as the moustache, working from left to right with North-South strokes until you reach the center, and then working from right to left with North-South strokes until you reach the center, finally overlapping your last left to right North-South stroke.

Now rinse the face with comfortably hot water, leaving the face wet and then lather. (I'll wait for you.)

Now for pass two. The strokes in Q1 and Q2 are going to be one half of the letter V, i.e. in Q1 from the top of the area near you left ear to the bottom of the area near the chin. We do a series of strokes paralleling this first one until we have completed the quadrant. Caution, you must keep the skin taut or you will be in danger of cutting yourself at this point Before moving on to Q2 we do a stroke where you gently lift the cheek and run the razor along the skin that was just on the jawbone (until you just raised it by raising your cheek) from under the ear to the center of the chin. Q2 is done just as Q1 but from your right ear to the right of your chin, etc. Caution, you must keep the skin taut or you will be in danger of cutting yourself at this point Finish Q2 just as you did Q1, but from the right end of the jawbone to the center of the chin, lift the skin and keep it taut so that the razor does not grab any extra skin. Q3 and Q4 are shaved with a series of horizontal strokes, Starting with Q3, up under the jawbone by the left ear you will stroke to the centerline under your chin. Follow this stroke with a series of parallel strokes ending at the centerline until you reach the bottom of your whiskered area. Now we move on to Q4. Repeat the same process as Q3, but from the right to the left. Once finished Q4 we shave the moustache. Taking care to keep things taut, work with a series of very slightly angled strokes from the outside of the lip on the left to the filtrum. Then work with a series of very slightly angled strokes from the outside of the lip on the right to the filtrum completing the moustache with a single North-south stroke to shave the filtrum. Shave the chin in the same fashion as the moustache, left to center, right to center with slightly angled (each side describing a half of a V) strokes.

Now for pass three. The strokes in Q1 and Q2 are going to be the other half of the letter V you started in pass two, i.e. in Q1 from the top of the area near you nose to the bottom of the area near your left ear, in Q2 from the top of the area near you nose to the bottom of the area near your right ear. After the first stroke in Q1, paralllel it with similar strokes until you have completed the quadrant. Caution, now you must keep the skin taut or you will be in danger of cutting yourself at this point Prior to going from Q1 to Q2, gently lifting the skin, you make a stroke along the jawbone from the center of the chin to the area under the left ear. Just like in pass two, only in the opposite direction. After the first stroke in Q2, paralllel it with similar strokes until you have completed the quadrant. Caution, now you must keep the skin taut or you will be in danger of cutting yourself at this point After Q2, gently lifting the skin, you make a stroke along the jawbone from the center of the chin to the area under the right ear. Beginning in Q3, starting at the centerline under your chin you will stroke (horizontally) to under the left ear. Follow this stroke with a series of parallel horizontal strokes ending at the end of you whiskers until you reach the bottom of your whiskered area. Now we move on to Q4. Repeat the same process as Q3, but from the left to the right. Once finished Q4 we shave the moustache. Taking care to keep things taut, work with a series of very slightly angled (to the left) strokes from the middle of the lip (filtrum) to the outside edge on the left. Then work with a series of very slightly angled strokes (to the right) from the filtrum to the outside of the lip on the right. Shave the chin in the same fashion as the moustache, center to left, center to right with slightly angled (each side describing a half of a V) strokes.

Now for pass four. This is where the rubber meets the road! You should have a very close shave by now. If you have done everything correctly up to this point you should have very near to baby's butt smoothness on the cheeks. This pass is the South to North pass. It is executed starting in Q3 out by the leftmost part of the quadrant with a series of parallel South to North strokes up to the jawbone until your parallel strokes reach the centerline. Then you do a similar sweep of South to North strokes in Q1, starting by the ear at the jawbone up to the top of the whiskered area working your parallel strokes over to the left edge of the lip. Now to Q4. Just the same as Q3 but working your parallel South - North strokes from the right to the left, from out by the ear-side to the centerline. Then tackle Q2 with a series of parallel South to North strokes just as you did in Q1, but working from the right to the left. This brings us to the moustache and chin. Caution! Depending upon your skin and whiskers you may wish to shave your moustache with a series of South to North strokes, working from the outside to the middle (filtrum) or as a series of diagonal upward strokes (SW-NE and SE-NW) working from the outside to the filtrum. Even with the very reduced shrub (well shaven?) on the upper lip, many gents have whiskers so tough and dense on the upper lip that it is inviting carnage to do a pure South-North. The chin should be approached in much the same way as the moustache.

You can or may need to tailor this methodology to your own needs and facial topography. You may wish to run through the four passes with a bladeless razor just to get it down. If you haven't done horizontal strokes across your neck before, a bit of bladeless practice is a good thing! Do the washing and lathering even with the bladeless razor to get a feel for it. I do NOT recommend this technique for a newcomer to DE shaving. That's it! Enjoy.

guenron
12-15-2005, 12:55 PM
Any questions?

DoubleE
12-15-2005, 01:30 PM
Could you now do it in German for out friends across the pond?:wink:
Jerry

Scotto
12-15-2005, 01:52 PM
So, the tablets have come down from the mountain, eh? :wink:

This is almost exactly what I do, developed by trial-and-error, except I stick to three passes (N-S, "V part 1", S-N). I find that after the second pass, across the grain, that most of the stubble is gone. When I have tried to add the second part of the V (nose to ear) before my final S-N pass, I find that it doesn't really do anything. Of course, my beard grain runs very much nose to ear, so for others it may be more important.

Oh, by the way, should we keep the skin taut or not? :tongue_sm :tongue_sm

rtaylor61
12-15-2005, 01:58 PM
What...no pictures???

Randy

guenron
12-15-2005, 02:08 PM
So, the tablets have come down from the mountain, eh? :wink:

This is almost exactly what I do, developed by trial-and-error, except I stick to three passes (N-S, "V part 1", S-N). I find that after the second pass, across the grain, that most of the stubble is gone. When I have tried to add the second part of the V (nose to ear) before my final S-N pass, I find that it doesn't really do anything. Of course, my beard grain runs very much nose to ear, so for others it may be more important.

Oh, by the way, should we keep the skin taut or not? :tongue_sm :tongue_sm
What is really interesting about this, is that I developed it for use with my Vision loaded with a Feather PtInox and set at "V."

guenron
12-15-2005, 02:09 PM
What...no pictures???

Randy
It probably would enhance it if I got my old Corel Draw out and did some drawing on clip art... But I still have the SR 3128 to finisn writing and typing and picturing....

guenron
12-15-2005, 02:11 PM
Could you now do it in German for out friends across the pond?:wink:
Jerry
Ja könnte ich den tun.

DoubleE
12-15-2005, 02:26 PM
Ja könnte ich den tun.

Sie sind nicht das einzige.
Sein einziges Rasieren.

Call me Hanz!

Jerry

roughrider
12-15-2005, 02:37 PM
But I still have the SR 3128 to finisn writing and typing and picturing....


Ron is a busy man. :biggrin:

guenron
12-15-2005, 03:03 PM
Sie sind nicht das einzige.
Sein einziges Rasieren.

Call me Hanz!

Jerry
Es freut mich. Aber es ist
Sie ist nicht das einzige.. Sein einziges Rasieren!
Es besser wie Gretel? Nichts!

crackstar
12-15-2005, 03:21 PM
ah! das ist wunderbar, wirklich!!! Man spricht hier Deutsch! ich bin sehr zufrieden.

Jeff

Austin
12-15-2005, 03:25 PM
Huh?

rtaylor61
12-15-2005, 03:29 PM
I think someone sneezed!

Randy

crackstar
12-15-2005, 03:29 PM
:smile: Austin, I'm fluent in many languages, so I thought I'd chime in with a little sweet German comment. I said that it's wonderful, there are German speaking folks here, I'm very happy.
Jeff

Scotto
12-15-2005, 04:10 PM
:smile: Austin, I'm fluent in many languages, so I thought I'd chime in with a little sweet German comment. I said that it's wonderful, there are German speaking folks here, I'm very happy.
Jeff
Ron speaks every language and owns every shaving product. I am beginning to think he is a figment of our collective imagination....:eek:

crackstar
12-15-2005, 04:18 PM
:biggrin: :biggrin: I have shaving creams from the USA, Canada, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland, Egypt, Turkey, Israel, India, Colombia and England. I win!!:wink: :wink:

Jeff

guenron
12-15-2005, 04:29 PM
:smile: Austin, I'm fluent in many languages, so I thought I'd chime in with a little sweet German comment. I said that it's wonderful, there are German speaking folks here, I'm very happy.
Jeff
Aber steigt Ihr Herz wie ein Adler an?

gage0921
12-15-2005, 06:37 PM
Wenn ich mich auf diese Weise rasieren sollte, wurde mein Gesicht wie Verletzung der Tampon von Gesetz aussehen.

rtaylor61
12-15-2005, 08:47 PM
Herren,

Bitte Pfosten auf englisch für die von uns die are't glücklich genug, zum des Deutschen zu sprechen! :confused:

Randy

mark the shoeshine boy
12-16-2005, 07:44 AM
:confused1


let me read this again....

mark the shoeshine boy

roughrider
12-16-2005, 11:44 AM
One note of caution is to study your own personal hair growth pattern.

crackstar
12-16-2005, 03:42 PM
you're right Randy. If I start posting in my language, nobody'll understand a word!

Jeff

rtaylor61
12-16-2005, 03:44 PM
you're right Randy. If I start posting in my language, nobody'll understand a word!

Jeff


You say that as though you think that I know what I said :scared: :scared::w00t:

Randy

SalvadorMontenegro
01-21-2007, 11:20 PM
Am I allowed to bump this sucker? I found it helpful and thought it might help some of the other beginners.

I also have a question:

My facial hair doesn't grow north to south. It grows diagonally downwards from the area closest to my nose towards my jawbone. So, the third pass would be the one that would best describe shaving with the grain, for me. And shaving against the grain would be shaving diagonally upwards from my jawbone towards my nose.

So, how could I tailor this four pass routine for me? Any ideas?

cactusbrush
01-22-2007, 07:10 AM
Ron, et.al.;

Hadn't read this post before; new to the forum. I'm glad it was bumped because it is a great post and has great reminders even for old geezers like me.

BobS

guenron
01-22-2007, 07:42 AM
Am I allowed to bump this sucker? I found it helpful and thought it might help some of the other beginners.

I also have a question:

My facial hair doesn't grow north to south. It grows diagonally downwards from the area closest to my nose towards my jawbone. So, the third pass would be the one that would best describe shaving with the grain, for me. And shaving against the grain would be shaving diagonally upwards from my jawbone towards my nose.

So, how could I tailor this four pass routine for me? Any ideas?

Hello Salvador,
Well if practice makes perfect, this post should really be great as I have managed to lose it twice. At any rate, to the question of tailoring the 4-pass to your needs. There are two fundamentals behind the 4-pass. The first is gradual beard reduction. It is this technique that provides for comfort with successively closer passes without the nasty pulling and tugging at tough whiskers that usually leads to nicks and weepers. The second fundamental is the cross cutting, i.e., shaving every beard pattern with the rough equivalent of a with and against the grain pass, even those whorl patterns that some have.
If you are experiencing discomfort or a less than satisfacory result, by all means tailor the 4-pass to your needs. From your description, you could very easily start with a pass 3, followed by a pass 1 and (potentially a pass 4 or pass 2 depending upon your growth patterns.) I do not like to say these are with or against the grain in particular, because I am doubtful that there is a beard that grows N-S over the entire visage or any particular direction for that matter. The combination of passes is the key to SMOOTH, the sequence, perhaps, the key to comfort.
Hope that helps.:thumbup1:

guenron
01-22-2007, 07:48 AM
Ron, et.al.;

Hadn't read this post before; new to the forum. I'm glad it was bumped because it is a great post and has great reminders even for old geezers like me.

BobS

Hi BobS,
You down there in Baja Oklahoma? :wink2:
I am glad that you found it helpful as a reminder if nothing else. I have posted, written, emailed, explained, taught, etc. this particular technique to many over the years as a primer for chasing and achieving the perfect shave. If it is still doing it, GREAT. As Chief Dan George said in Little Big Man, "My heart soars like eagle!"
Perhaps this should become a "STICKY?"

cactusbrush
01-22-2007, 08:22 AM
Ron;

Baja Oklahoma! Ohh, that hurt. Lubbock actually, so most of the time we are not considered part of the state anyway, at least by the liberals in Austin.

I do think this ought to be a sticky; concise and well-written and answers a lot of questions. And, serves as a good reminder when shaves start going south for some reason and one needs to get back to basics.

Baja Oklahoma indeed!

BobS

netsurfr
01-22-2007, 08:26 AM
Thanks for the tutorial. I have been using the approach that Scotto outlined. Maybe, I will give your technique a try.

Steve

berzerkeleyan
01-22-2007, 11:05 AM
Perhaps this should become a "STICKY?"

It's definitely Wiki material. :thumbup1:

Navy Chief
01-23-2007, 05:14 AM
Now that I have read it twice it makes sense.. Maybe it was the additional coffee though. Great post either way!

digitldlnkwnt
01-30-2007, 07:50 PM
:biggrin: :biggrin: I have shaving creams from the USA, Canada, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland, Egypt, Turkey, Israel, India, Colombia and England. I win!!:wink: :wink:

Jeff

WOAH!:eek:
I dont even think my bathroom is big enough to house all of that. Ok well looks like shower has to go! :biggrin: :laugh:

mksmith3
02-01-2007, 12:05 PM
I tried this 4-pass method this morning, but it wasn't as close as my usual 4-pass routine. Like an idiot, I went for two more passes. Huge mistake. My face feels like it has been sand-blasted. Someday I will learn the lesson that a little bit of stubble that nobody can see is better than a bright red face that burns like it's on fire.

dojohnso
02-02-2007, 12:52 PM
guenron,

I shave based on your methodology. Works well. Thanks for the post! I do find that on pass 4, for the moustache area, I cannot do a true S-N pass, unless I am using a brand new feather, otherwise I get knicks or razor burn. I have to do the S-NE, S-NW diagonally.

vincentl
03-19-2007, 05:02 PM
:biggrin: :biggrin: I have shaving creams from the USA, Canada, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland, Egypt, Turkey, Israel, India, Colombia and England. I win!!:wink: :wink:

Jeff

What's the Hungarian cream called, and can I purchase it online somewhere?

Takk skal du ha! (what langauge is this written in?)

Flaxorca
07-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Found this post through a reference in a more recent post. IMHO a very good and clear how to... Can't this be moved to Shave Clinic and become a sticky? For me as a noob this kind of stuff is very useful, but unfortunately very hard to find. Or am I making a faux pas with this request? :ohmy:

BTW was not planning on going for the four pass just yet, haven't even received my Merkur HD yet :wink2: (7 more nerve wrecking days of waiting left), but it is something to keep in mind and perhaps even try and work towards.

Great tutorial Guenron!

Leisureguy
07-05-2007, 04:02 PM
I agree that this should be a sticky. I provide links to it in the Guide to Gourmet Shaving---from Edition 1.0 on. I think it's an exceptional article.

sartoris
02-11-2008, 07:51 PM
Ich habe eine Frage a propos le "V" that you're talking about in this post. Is it a side of a "V" with the blade parallel to the ground or with it at a 45 degree angle to the ground?

Winzzy
02-11-2008, 10:04 PM
This is a great guide, one more vote for a sticky... I am going to try this my next shave...