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Gold Dollar 74
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Description:
Let's take a look at the GD, shall we?



The QC from the factory is a bit lax, so the outline will vary from piece to piece, all are about 13/16 to 7/8 width:





Tip outline, and edge outline vary.



The biggest issue is usually that the heel of the razor is difficult to make contact with the hone due to that extremely large heel stabilizer and thick shoulder on the spine bevel. Some bulk removal of material is usually required to get that sorted out.



Outline is one thing, the next is the tang of the razor. 8 out of ten of them will have a tang that is not in-line with the body of the blade. This isn't really an issue unless you plan on re-scaling them.



Which leads us to the scales.....



CHEAP, lightweight plastic scales, more often than not come very loose. Some simple re-peening tightens them up, no problem. They are then at least serviceable for protecting the blade.



That's the ugly bits about these razors.



Let's take a look at the grind:



Here's a cross section from a diced up GD:





Hollow, but not full hollow or singing by any means. Nice thick spine adds some heft.



Here is where it falls on the grind chart:





It is my opinion that this is one of the highlights of these razors, as I have never had a warped blade yet (sample size~50 so far).



Marker test shows good contact except for smile at toe and heel. This is fresh out of the box:





With this one you can see the issue with the edge at the heel:







So, how about the edge?



Well, when they come off the assembly line in Shanghai, they look something like this (all scope pics at ~400x):







None too pretty! I wouldn't let that thing near my face!



But, after some time on the hones, these razors hone up quite fine. Here is the finished edge on the very same razor as pictured above, finished to 0.1um diamond lapping film.










Well, Seraphim, pics are all well and good, but you don't shave with pics, do you?



Nope, I don't shave with pics, but I do like to find out empirically what is going on, not simply going on my own opinion. I like shaving with very sharp razors.



Here is a shot of a HHT hair cleaved by the edge shown above:





The hair cleaved without any *ping* or *pop*, nice, silent cut-in-two HHT. Nice clean cut. Does the same to the whiskers on your face





My review:



Hard to assign numerical values to this razor. At first glance, I'd give the razor a 1 for craftsmanship, because, let's face it, it's not very refined AT ALL.

Yet, they did get the important bits right- the grind has always been well done, and as mentioned, I have never had a warped blade yet. Important part #2 is that they can indeed hone up as well as most any other razor if you take the time to do so. Once honed, I have recieved many a close and comfortable shave from these razors.



You can buy them on EBay for ~$13 or so. Just be aware that they come with lots of warts and faults at that price point. None of which cannot be overcome, but be prepared to invest some sweat equity in getting it in good shaving shape. So how do you assign a "value" rating in that regard? Sure, $13 sounds like the deal of the decade, yet you will also need some proper tools (hones, hammers, buzzsaws, etc.) to get it into top notch shape. So is that a good deal, or not? You will have to decide that for yourself.



I have been more than happy with the GDs I have used.
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Seraphim

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Registered: January 2008
Location: Beantown
Posts: 10069
Review Date: Fri March 12, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
Positive aspects of the product (pros):
Cons:
Price:
Craftsmanship:
Easy to Sharpen:
Lasting Edge:
Shaving Smoothness:
Easy to Maintain:

 
Let's take a look at the GD, shall we?



The QC from the factory is a bit lax, so the outline will vary from piece to piece, all are about 13/16 to 7/8 width:





Tip outline, and edge outline vary.



The biggest issue is usually that the heel of the razor is difficult to make contact with the hone due to that extremely large heel stabilizer and thick shoulder on the spine bevel. Some bulk removal of material is usually required to get that sorted out.



Outline is one thing, the next is the tang of the razor. 8 out of ten of them will have a tang that is not in-line with the body of the blade. This isn't really an issue unless you plan on re-scaling them.



Which leads us to the scales.....



CHEAP, lightweight plastic scales, more often than not come very loose. Some simple re-peening tightens them up, no problem. They are then at least serviceable for protecting the blade.



That's the ugly bits about these razors.



Let's take a look at the grind:



Here's a cross section from a diced up GD:





Hollow, but not full hollow or singing by any means. Nice thick spine adds some heft.



Here is where it falls on the grind chart:





It is my opinion that this is one of the highlights of these razors, as I have never had a warped blade yet (sample size~50 so far).



Marker test shows good contact except for smile at toe and heel. This is fresh out of the box:





With this one you can see the issue with the edge at the heel:







So, how about the edge?



Well, when they come off the assembly line in Shanghai, they look something like this (all scope pics at ~400x):







None too pretty! I wouldn't let that thing near my face!



But, after some time on the hones, these razors hone up quite fine. Here is the finished edge on the very same razor as pictured above, finished to 0.1um diamond lapping film.










Well, Seraphim, pics are all well and good, but you don't shave with pics, do you?



Nope, I don't shave with pics, but I do like to find out empirically what is going on, not simply going on my own opinion. I like shaving with very sharp razors.



Here is a shot of a HHT hair cleaved by the edge shown above:





The hair cleaved without any *ping* or *pop*, nice, silent cut-in-two HHT. Nice clean cut. Does the same to the whiskers on your face





My review:



Hard to assign numerical values to this razor. At first glance, I'd give the razor a 1 for craftsmanship, because, let's face it, it's not very refined AT ALL.

Yet, they did get the important bits right- the grind has always been well done, and as mentioned, I have never had a warped blade yet. Important part #2 is that they can indeed hone up as well as most any other razor if you take the time to do so. Once honed, I have recieved many a close and comfortable shave from these razors.



You can buy them on EBay for ~$13 or so. Just be aware that they come with lots of warts and faults at that price point. None of which cannot be overcome, but be prepared to invest some sweat equity in getting it in good shaving shape. So how do you assign a "value" rating in that regard? Sure, $13 sounds like the deal of the decade, yet you will also need some proper tools (hones, hammers, buzzsaws, etc.) to get it into top notch shape. So is that a good deal, or not? You will have to decide that for yourself.



I have been more than happy with the GDs I have used.

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Seraphim

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Location: Beantown
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Review Date: Mon March 15, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
Positive aspects of the product (pros):
Cons:
Price:
Craftsmanship:
Easy to Sharpen:
Lasting Edge:
Shaving Smoothness:
Easy to Maintain:

 
Another common comment on these is that they don'thold an edge very well, or are somehow sub-standard in that regard.



So, without further ado is my current testing on edge retention of a standard GD 74.



After some ChromOx stropping:





After 1 shave, no stropping pre-or-post shave:







After another shave, leather only stropping:





Yet another shave, used the Dovo white canvas strop and shell horsehide, as per my usual regime:





Shave #4, leather only stropping:





HHT test after the shave, still silent and effortless:







That edge isn't going anywhere. Still shaving great, and there is no visible degradation after 4 shaves.

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Alacrity59

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Registered: July 2008
Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Review Date: Mon March 15, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Lasting Edge:
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I wonder at what a out of the box TI or Dovo looks like under the ~400x magnification?

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Seraphim

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Review Date: Thu March 18, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Here yet another GD (different than the one above) that I just honed up.





Same great edge. This one finished to 1um, then chromox stropped









Coincedence, or *perhaps* these razors actually can take a very nice edge, fairly consistantly?

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Registered: November 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 1643
Review Date: Fri March 26, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
Positive aspects of the product (pros):
Cons:
Price: 10
Craftsmanship: 3
Easy to Sharpen: 7
Lasting Edge: 7
Shaving Smoothness: 8
Easy to Maintain: 7

 
The Gold Dollar is a cheap and functional razor. The main issues are the heel, scales, alignment of tang, and smile on the blade. The main advantages are that the blade is made from what looks like good steel, has a straight edge, easy to sharpen, and is cheap.



Price (10) : $15



Craftsmanship (3) : A few points for the straight edge



Easy to Sharpen (7) : The heel can be a bit of pain so points removed for that in addition to the smile



Lasting Edge (7) : Nothing exceptional here



Shaving Smoothness (8) : The blade is roughly 1/2 hollow so is a good shaver



Easy to Maintain (7) : Working around the heel and smile causes some issues on maintenance. Plus this is not uber hard steel, so touch-ups are common.

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Review Date: Wed April 7, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Two more honed up, here are the edges:

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Review Date: Tue April 20, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Easy to Maintain:

 
OK, so a lot of folks say





"OK, so you can maybe get an edge on a Gold Dollar, but there's no way it's going to last..."



Here is the edge, fresh off the hones, and then after getting it back 12+ shaves later from another member. Leather only stropping. Edge looks to be holding up just fine.



Images at 400x, as above.

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The blade is still providing excellent shaves just like the day I received it. The picture says it all. It is taken a beating with my thick beard. When I have a two day old growth the GD is my go to blade.

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Of course he also happens to sell Gold Dollars, so take that for what it's worth.

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Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
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Of course he also happens to sell Gold Dollars, so take that for what it's worth.






Yes, I do.



But they are commonly available via EBay (supercheap) and RupRazor as well, doesn't matter to me.



It is also the reason why I have tried to provide empirical evidence via microscope pics of the egde. That way it is not simply someone's opinion, but has some basis in measureable fact.

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Location: Reno, Nevada
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Review Date: Thu August 5, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
Positive aspects of the product (pros):
Cons:
Price: 10
Craftsmanship: 3
Easy to Sharpen: 4
Lasting Edge: 6
Shaving Smoothness: 8
Easy to Maintain: 7

 
For what you pay- one came along as a practice blade with a coticule I bought off the B/S/T and I have since bought three of these on EBay from Mr. Parko for a total of about $30 including shipping from Hong Kong- this razor is a clear 10.



Craftsmanship is quite weak- scales are light and cheesy and finish work is sloppy. Factory bevel is very ragged and needs to be reset, at least on the two I have honed so far. The basic grind is good and the blades are flat- a 3.



Ease of sharpening would be an 8, if I did not have to spend a while filing off a heel spur and reshaping the stabilizer end a bit- so a 4. The steel is easy to work with and does take a nice edge.



I used a GD model #108 exclusively on a recent 17 day trip to visit relatives. Edge needed a light touch up after about 10 days on a barbers hone. So I found it lasted a bit less than some of my other blades, but I think the steel is quite soft on these razors. I rate it a 6.



Quality of shave- here the razor did really remarkably well. Consistent good, smooth shaves. The blade is half hollow, or so, has some heft and shaves easily. Rates an 8 in my book. I was very pleasantly surprised.



Maintenance- the soft steel may require a bit more in the way of touch-ups, and it does seem to stain quickly. I was on the east coast for the hot, humid weather and the steel picked up some spotting and even a tiny bit of rust after just a few days. Easy enough to clean off, but I think that some aspect of this steel lends itself to easy staining. I would be interested in other opinions on this. So, I give it a 7.



I like these blades. I do not sell them and do not intend to. What I like is their utility. There is no luxury, no feel of fine craftsmanship, no history, nothing really special- except that they give a nice shave at a very reasonable price. Yes, there is some sweat equity in getting the heel and stabilizers right. But, I learned some things about the geometry of a razor that I otherwise might not have, so there was a plus to that as well.



I am no expert, but I found the razors to be relatively easy to put a good edge on, the steel to be easy to work and the shave was better than I thought it would be. As to many years of use, I cannot yet comment. But, for the few months I have owned and used a GD, it has been a good product.



The GD is not in the same league as vintage Sheffield blades, of which I own a few, nor some of the nice old Henkels I enjoy. But, for my family visitation trip the GD did the job and did it well. I think of these as really nice entry level blades, as well as blades that can be left in places for future trips without much bother.

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Review Date: Thu September 30, 2010 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Price: 10
Craftsmanship: 6
Easy to Sharpen: 6
Lasting Edge: 7
Shaving Smoothness: 7
Easy to Maintain: 7

 
I wanted to chip in with my thoughts on this razor, i have been using this in my rotation for a few months now, and over all quite happy with the razor, i got 2 of these for under $15 shipped to the uk, cant say that about many razors today, ok they are not the most well crafted razor around, the heel on the one i honed was way off and the handle is so thin you can see through it, but it does the job, i failed to get a good edge on this razor when i used by niwania stones, but hit the jackpot when i got my coti, though it did take me longer than with other razors i have honed, and so far a few strokes on my chrox strop has kept it sharp, it does give a good shave and i am happy with the shaves i get from the razor, and for the price cant really be faulted, i know there has been some issues with the quality of some of these razors, but the one i have honed and used so far is good, i am now thinking of getting another gd, but a different model type.
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